tv [untitled] October 7, 2011 4:31pm-5:01pm EDT
you have today with our top stories this next in the program as palestinian strive for statehood at the united nations people living in hebron and desperate to hold on to their homes paul one of our special report for you from the west bank right now. brought to our bureau. there are five hundred of them surrounded by a hundred and twenty thousand very very hostile most of. the settlers in hebron illegally being their. one to choose living room why is that
you know since the settlers arrived in one thousand nine hundred two we have lived on opposite sides of the road a second holy and once we could drive up and park in front of the house here and now only the settlers can i always have to have a plan to avoid being shot out or having stones thrown out of the side of the house i you.
know avoid it there was no way i scream here just the railings go as they in the city put these up to protect us from the settlers and sometimes our house is surrounded by y. screens and the settlers now throw smallest stones that get through our destroyed a screen with the why are some hottest of luck if you pass through some of them. stay out of this little slows the dog definitely not closing the door if it is going to change a cage then you want to stay inside the seven closed the dog get the camera out of here call the police turn the camera off it's early in the morning that she wants from us to me. is. being a pioneer like like in the beginning of the state of israel there are different types of swarms that people have to deal with and then there were swamps and malaria. now there are there are security problems and people who
question our rights to living here and by living here we were stating a fact and that the fact is is that the hub is the heart of the jewish country and it's where it all began and we just want to have a natural jewish life here. oh oh. oh. oh oh i. was. sure he was trying to come home kill kill him. oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh yeah oh yeah.
yeah what a lot of this line one other you talk to jeff it's not mineral oh one of the year. one of. the show i go. i go for soul just told you my boy wants to come hell or what they want that's him don't you see what he's doing. that's if he loves you he's here to indicate the boys below i want to get the only one out of this it is today in this situation in . new zealand there are many many questions why are we here or may we give anything to our enemies and we are in the middle of a war even if we are not saying it aloud we. and i think it's into phones are not questions the only answers we hear because of our petri ox. the god promised
them this is the land belongs to us. oh no. you can say this is the essence the hard core of the occupation because there are seven of those living inside the me because the center of this thing in city and in the play the scene is there and they are very extreme and there is the army of protecting them and protecting this there for the scene and against the settlers so you have old elements for greek drama you know this is the essence of the occupation. we are living in a liberal democracy with a free press and all of the other things that we take for granted in a democracy and yet the reality in the occupied territories is very very different and surprisingly in spite of the free press in spite of the fact that you have
hundreds of journalists covering the situation it remains the case that the israeli public really doesn't know what is taking place in the occupied territories and i think they don't know because they choose not to know. their will of the war you know. forty eight. a very long. cold war in which gained seventy eight percent of the country off by this time as it existed before there was another war in sixty seven. got the stuff by the side. and the moment this war was finished and the saudis. to its we had to call cut. all the natural as. desire. by some people do
and next it to. and after a few weeks in the few months passed by and we suddenly saw it as no pressure at all on is to give back this debt it over is then slowly some people have said why not why should we get and put all settlements that the idea was to annex these territories where our days of settlement idea is to annex the obstacle is that. the palestinian people living there then the question that arises how do you annex all just that it always risks short of a million or two million arabs palestinians. and tell some people who say just take a half million palestinians and push them out of fatah sign as we did to half the palestinian people in nine hundred forty eight so it just all the said let this. be
extremely upset let's say at the most extreme out of one. because the israeli soldiers put this on our necks because the settlers were throwing stuff it was good little to protect as well so now instead of chucking stone safe through filthy water and other stuff that passes through the netting of the hemi and hebrew is the only city in the west bank and gaza duckie by personal territory settlement that are. implanted at the heart of the city and really the result of that is the slow death of the posts in the population center for the benefit of the expansion of these sentiments you can see this as a trend since two thousand since the beginning of the recent and the father with the closures of all the entry points into the old city where we have two thousand
is was areas where no pulsing in vehicle movement is allowed another area where else and these are not allowed to go through and no presence of palestinians is not allowed and then you have closed shops. you can't pass through you can't go freely to your hospital to your home can't go feed it to another village another city you can't go to your university. this was a super markets this was a photography studio and the shops used to be open in their living here i say and then four hundred settlers came to live here and they shut the whole town down suckle it kind. of a little bit that she. didn't
haze the ribbon cutting back to the jewish roots the first your city we know that abraham and isaac can and are back and they can live by him and they called the jewish tradition even i mean even buried here. bringing a jewish family in the place of the jewish roots. the basis of the jewish people. at. that was. and had. any i country in the world it would be defined as fascist if not for us. bunch of five hundred also people whose aim in life is to die fall out i don't have sixty thousand palestinians home to consider strange as. these people who've come. sept you know forty or
fifty years ago from europe. consider the inhabitants of taiwan who've been there for five five thousand years the strangest was. i thought i was i believe it's important for everyone to come and see what's going on here and not just. had the impression from the news because the news is very slanted and when people come they shout that this is a place where people can walk around and visit and feel normal and then it's not what. what they see on the news were they think it's just a military. i think you know a lot of soldiers come here in the beginning they think you know. and this is this is you know like an army base and then they realize that this is not an army base this is a place for jewish people. i
remember in the year two thousand two thousand and one and two thousand and two and three the whole fifty thousand inhabitants of the old city of have done well on the if you are one hundred of these in the year that lasted close to three years this caused palestinians to leave. the old city outside. i was. i i i. i served in hebron in two different period of time say eighteen first as a soldier and then as two thousand and one till middles two thousand and two was done i came back as a commander in march two thousand and three two or three december and the first two
three weeks of we came to hebron we went down to the city. you are all shocked you know when you're obese and you are sent to wields shops and doors from palestinian celss you see sterilized streets where palestinians are forbidden to walk in only jews are allowed to walk here you have to force for a few for all time and veils isn't a daily basis you go on walks in the streets and you find yourself in front of their feet is that probably in germany sounds you know it sounds familiar better than to us such as arabs to the gas chambers guys they are observes out with the stars of david a neighbor in the middle and there was a group of michael platoon in the beginning such refused to serve and help them we were shocked we don't believe what's going on you know you come to a place that you have two sets of law by definition that the orders are that you have to protect the settlers and if you see them attacking palestinians you're not allowed to arrest them. of caused many people who are
being sent and come back for the. full faith that against the setlist was a set of authentic just made it to the people as a servant medically as a kind of. personal security detachment whose job was to obey and serve the setlist but these are really all we have been interested to date it for many years now by the setlist and if everyone is fairly obvious a part of the settlement the settlement is closed the connect that with all.
the security presence and paper on is heavy or unfortunately there are people who are trying to kill us and many of the terrorists that wander around trying to blow themselves up anywhere from their share of up to haifa have have come out of control and the presence the military presence here is to protect us but it's also to try to weed out these terrorists and sue to it that they don't just tell us the from blow themselves up. although legally they are there to protect everyone to impose the law on everyone that the actual soldier stationed there understands his job as protecting the settlers and stopping palestinian terror.
ok so we will start probably will be guided by. david wilder to the left and also sell david is the spokesman for foreign interests of the settlement and have wrong and also as documenting our work i just offered them to speak with you guys to give their point of view and they refuse because they say they don't cooperate with traitors during the war time like today traitors like me so you will get only one perspective today and i'm sorry for that. i don't call him military you to show all who leads the group is a in any other normal country they would put him on trial for treason and hang him . but unfortunately israel hasn't reached that level yet of of justice. people express their opinions some people are put in jail when they express their opinions because it's called incitement and whatever he does what he does that's
considered to be legitimate however i don't relate to them too much importance if there are many jewish communities or not only jewish communities which understand the importance of have run to the jewish people the significance of cover on the significance of jews living you know and people are able to express that support in different ways some pop people come to visit some people send letters some people wish to donate some of their money and i think that that proves without any doubt that people understand the importance of a jewish community here in corona. when we came to her own in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven we didn't occupy a foreign city we came back home and came back to the first george city in the land of israel like you look at the faces of those years of those jews who were killed thank god by god god is surely one of the last to be shipped out. and never to the settlers and their claim starts we are
a continuation to the jewish community we live there was deported from here by them . and that's not the truth of course there are some people who come from families who live there that agree with the system but there are lots of people who come from the jewish community who have grown. we were against you know fundamentally against the settlement of a fundamentally against the idea that six hundred fifty people can you know have all their rights in the back of one hundred sixty six thousand people. usually in jewish holidays the weekends a lot of people coming out of settlers from kid out of the people visitors from jerusalem from outside and one of the you know biggest fears of the i.d.f. was his that's sort of pasty and sniper was set down near the one of the houses and
i will just slot every one of the phrases or walk around the streets so how do you deal with it for sure we can there now days you pose corfield on the palestinians friday morning you divide all the palestinian neighbors around the settlement. you go to search. the finished run round take arrested one of the house you lock the family in one room you put observers on go to sleep after three i was the wake up it's time for the second round and again that's another aspect of what it was to live here. when they come particular house they ask me to connect all of the family with them in the kitchen all in one room they take off all the clovis the begs the beds all of that and have been many times they come through the house this is all of the
family outside but i see so many cars like this that i don't care i remember one one night we state from one o'clock after midnight until four o'clock four o'clock and it was our landing all i want here. and they said they want to get the house and they know nothing of the house. before. nine hundred sixty eight after the six day war and the great. military victory that god gave to us. is really go there ready back then wasn't sure what we can do theories we've liberated sixty seven let you stay the jews move there don't let jews move there i tell you what your loving god is rabbits imperium never get together they advertise in the joy newspapers because fan base stuff downtown have a pocket tell. and those sort of an olympic sized swimming pool and
no great music entertainers color might but he had a one star hotel windows provide if you pay extra money thirty families registered for the best of a service. in this hotel then he government decided to take him out of there and to put into the minute to the government building which was annoyed. police four plus and then there might be plight and barely the military government could not function anymore the just time to meet the government building in door private settlement for the government that let him take out of that put them into a new settlement called chaotic alba one thousand nine hundred seventy golden mia came along says i got the solution and that solution is called. here and she built his beautiful beautiful summer with low just mortgages cheap housing olympic sized swimming pool really solar jacuzzi tennis courts just came
a big fascist dominated settlement of the center of all fascist and the mention is that. and then to start that funk. again back to so slowly this is step of the little step of the step of the step they occupied is part of curve on where you know even in this spot the settlers of the small minority that was the majority of the one. this was the basis st in hebron met after everybody came here all the farmers people from the neighboring towns out of windsor coolies i know nobody comes in here they have shot everything the while and since the intifada they closed entrance. but the bus we used to go in and when the settlers could not see.
bay for them there welded to don't. be so now we're getting in from the back i'm climbing over the neighbors through five up stands and over while i'm in them and all these trouble to keep the settlers out of the house and there are the settlers once that's where they leave. and also you know they are the colonists around us stuck in the. wrong stuff and look look we're surrounded by settlers and soldiers are no stop and read the lawyer so. i have no doubt that if today another two hundred thousand jews moved into today in some area. a lot of the arabs who were here pick up and leave you have to throw them out i don't know them i don't know there today are in my favor that i don't know looking for forced explosions very bloody but i have a feeling that if they see masses of masses of people coming over to take their homes away from just to settle in the land here
a lot of them just leave. any normal human being have a specific steps that was above you know he'll beyond this point i can i take it to my children can i take it in a war so i'm going to have have to leave basically fifty's if i had to both live. two weeks ago if i had to both real estate and. territory is the main core i am not among those who think that this this beauty of the middle east is a religious one it is a nation listed one and the main disputers of both land look even at the transfer was a real transfer and for nobody talks about it there are some singing about fifteen