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i. archie is sitting down with author blogger and public speaker james howard kunstler so thanks so much for joining us it's nice to be here let's get started with the occupy wall street movement we've seen many media outlets try to ridicule them marginalize this movement as something that's temporary and really an artist's teenage behavior and you've essentially called this bogus in your blog let's talk about that what is your take on occupy wall street well first of all it's hilarious that all of these scolds in the media are shaking their fingers at these young people and say oh you don't you can articulate your position you have any agenda we're living in a time in the united states when the consensus about reality is so fractured even among people who are supposed to know what's going on that we cannot construct a coherent story about what's happening to us and what we're going to do about it
so to expect the young people to be able to construct a coherent narrative when nobody else in the culture is capable of doing that i think is a little unfair. what's more you can tell just from the placards that they're carrying around we know where their heads are at the the most significant or telling one that i saw said. i have seventy thousand dollars college debt twelve thousand dollars in medical bills i'm twenty two where's my bailout that's a good enough reason to be out there i think so and i think what it represents is very clear it's the idea that this younger generation feels like their future has been sold out from under them but with major unions joining we've seen a much more kind of mature knowledgeable group of people come out onto the streets thousands of people do you think that's reason enough for the media and politicians to really start. taking this seriously i don't know if we're capable of really
interpretating what's going on politically in our country right now you know i have a pet theory that the more social and economic distress a culture goes through the the greater the delusional thinking gets so that you know as the social stress rises the crazy ideas and delusional ideas and tend to increase it's not a very. good it's not a very good set of conditions for you know arriving at a picture of reality if we compare occupy wall street to the arab spring we saw american politicians on the mainstream media plotting the arab spring yet this is somewhat of a similar beginning of some uprising along those lines is until double standard a little bit too obvious yeah it's amazing it's amazing that we were cheerleading for all those people in the street in tahrir square you know anderson cooper was
down there and you know all the other. usual media suspects were there cheering for the protesters in spite of the fact that there was a very good chance that the outcome of the revolution might not be so good let's put it this way you know the outstanding feature of the politics in the last three years has been that nobody on wall street has had to sit in a court room to answer for the tremendous amount of misbehavior in banking and you know this includes acts that can only be described as swindles and frauds well people have been talking about the lack of accountability ever since the financial meltdown took place three years ago but we haven't seen anybody come out onto the streets why now and do you think that this movement could end up taking america to
a. better place at least in terms of pushing politicians to hold someone accountable it's just that i do think there's a reason why we haven't seen a lot of protests the kind of things that have been happening to americans are very shameful they lose their job they lose their income they can't support their families they can't feed their families their house gets taken away from them you know these are things that tend to be humiliating and shameful and i think that because of the way our system works where you know this is the land of freedom and liberty people blame themselves and they internalize the lot of the bad feelings and then you know they suppress it because it's shameful the combination of the shame and the anger that's all kind of mixed up with that has not really expressed itself and it may take a bit more to shove it over the edge and may take you know a bit more hardship now in one of your articles you say the hope invested in obama
will end up in a museum of lost hopes along with the integrity of t.v. news i want to ask you if this were to be obama's only term as president what would he be remembered like in history well i voted for obama i think that he's probably when all is said and done he's probably a decent chap but it also appears that he's either a hostage to history or a hostage to a certain faction and most in our culture and economy like the wall street bankers . remember over a thousand people were successfully prosecuted for the misdeeds in the savings and loan scandals of the late one nine hundred eighty s. and early one nine hundred ninety s. no significant figure from the banking community has really been even sat in a courtroom and had to answer for any of their their deeds you know there have been a couple of fluky cases including bernie made off. you know these are outliers
these are the marginal cases but really the heart of the system hasn't been touched i think that. mr obama will be remembered as kind of a spectacular failure and i also think that this is a period of history that is comparable to the eighteenth fifty's in the usa that was the period that preceded the civil war and it was a period in which political institutions were failing you know an interesting thing happens in situations like this institutions lose what's called legitimacy legitimacy a reason to exist and the faith among people who have subscribed to the their beliefs that they are worth believing in and you know we're seeing a grand failure of legitimacy now in the political system in the usa and it's rather frightening you really sort of forecast every year for for the year ahead
what the united states should await and in your forecast for twenty eleven you said that the number one question really is can a political economy be floating like a when he aloon of gusts of sheer fakery has the balloon pop yeah well i think that the air has been going out of it steadily but surprisingly slowly for three years and you know we're the whatever pin prick in this balloon you know where where it seems to be located at the moment is over europe with tremendous questions about the legitimacy of the european union and the banking sector more more generally but you know all of the banks in europe and north america are. interrelated and there's no chance that what happens on one continent is not going to affect another i think that there are sooner or later we're going to see similar problems. in the usa the air is going out of the balloon. it's been remarkable that
the fabric of this bubble was so strong but when all is said and done it's a fabric of faith and confidence that the system is meaningful and sustainable and people are beginning to doubt that that it is if we could return to the role of the media you return to this issue in your blog quite often you've written that they shout down invited guest commentators pander to their demographic and dissed their rivals for ratings what role do they play these days well you know culture goes through cycles when institutions. take various forms acquire a certain legitimacy and then blow it throw it away and i've seen it happen in my lifetime where you know the authority of the evening news on the networks was unquestioned but what's happened is that you know i think that the media has lost
its confidence it's certainly in a great state of. convulsive transition we do know that younger people tend not to really get their news from t.v. at all you know they mostly get it from the internet. there are very few kind of vested legitimate authorities on the internet who are trusted news bringers they all appear to have an agenda of some kind or another whether it's left wing right wing capitalist socialists you know we never won it is and you know i think we have a long way to go before any of these things are sorted out and it's one of the reasons that we can't construct a coherent narrative about what's happening to us do you think the united states could face its own per store i prefer to call it a reset because i don't think it's the end of the world or the end of culture. or
the end of america i think it's a reset of culture but it can be very very painful and you know there will be a lot of losses involved of of property and status and you know things that were important to people that they're going to lose and so we have to somehow be prepared for this period of history that's very difficult what i think we're seeing is something that i did expect that we would mount a campaign to sustain the unsustainable because of our tremendous psychological investments in the stuff that we've got running you know we put all of our national treasure into building freeways and building these massive suburbs and building all of the accessories and furnishings for them you know the strip malls and the malls and all the you know all the stuff that comes with them. that's where our national wealth has gone you know we're not going to just kick it into the garbage can
without a struggle. but i don't think that it's going to work very well for us anyway so the final in the final analysis what i think is going to happen is america is going to be dragged kicking and screaming into a reset of daily life james howard kunstler thank you so much your time. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images. from the streets of canada. operations are ruled the day.
a very warm welcome to you this is your news today protesters on the wall street printer they have to. leave the sentence a good chance to choose to get the status of the human experiment is exploding when . we pursue a business rap music would expose was allegedly trying to make sense of global economy and its arcane things as financial temples the researchers clambering to maintain a confidence in markets and economics wants to be seen trade imbalances recession look keep the nations close to collapsing a subprime loan foreclosed homes. to fail so we play banks again feel a little like think is us crashing timonen smashed ceiling seem to dislike ultimate
in classes in athens three the i.m.f. strikes me on just programs increase the total economy. pretty sure three. three. three. three. three. million videos for your media project a free media oh god r t dot com. the latest news on the week's top stories and leave a celebration is a stained by blood accounts of the death of a plate lately. he was executed by a lynch mob of rebel fighters and while they post if you shouldn't send sensitive as ethnic and tribal divisions emerge among need and once united in the revolution
. more street violence in greece this week as the country's government approves more tax hikes as well as cars and wages at the beating of the. european leaders have been made at a lengthy brussels meeting of the resulting the crisis have put off talking all major decisions until another summit on wednesday. the barricades nato forces fail term move at the disputed border as ethnic sabs gone they've located to stop the peacekeepers in. time to get all the weekends with me. part of their walk into this sports update turned out two things for joining us this hour first let's take a quick look at what's making the sporting headlines around the globe. blackout new
zealand crowned rugby world cup champions for the second time following a close eighty seven victory over france. backcross in russia the exciting game from north america draws a lot of new followers across the ocean. and the first of a career double it's a tired old america it's a book about of big canapé in the women's singles final coming up here in the russian capital. so new zealand twenty eleven rugby world cup champions the all blacks try a thing by the narrowest of margins of a french team in auckland it may have been the lowest scoring decide ever but it was also one of the most exciting one tried pace for the sides return to work kowtowing ever for the house fifteen minutes in a french captain to read this touchdown eight minutes after the break of the stephen don't penalty group prove crucial eight to seven the final school ends and
park the all black starts to celebrate their second world crown. the guys who have won the world cup and that is outstanding. i would been through a lot together as richie cheat and a lot of the guys pride in the last world cup. and fell at the quarter final and to win those says. there's not words for it quite frankly the contrast of the certainly we have always thought we always said that the all blacks were the best team of all time but tonight i think our team was great even tremendous for you but it was difficult when you did just a tiny bit more here. now football when the russian premier league leaders in it have retained their top spot following a three one away victory to restore faith they visited nihilists open this scoring has done it registered an hour ago there were two militant defend smaller now
alexander before if in the area so the referee had no other option but to point to the spot alex on a look which make no mistake that so now by the thirty second minute extended early to three girls had how much to cross to become all to hold one go back straight after the break but that was it for the house so we want to finish and still on top of the standings. sponsor more school meanwhile have gone forth in the standings has a fresh f.c. tom at luzhniki stadium for nail marks opened the scoring for the muscovites with ten minutes brazilian striker double delayed just before the break se had plenty of time to fire his powerful shot into the top right corner after the break spot out substitute metric a human contributed of his career his first go for the team to make a friend and finally found the net once again for the home side two minutes before
the whistle to seal the final result before. in the late game to mail it to. their home defeat by second place a scum moscow that was finished five three two learned to ski. with a hat trick to his name. to the english premier league now where manchester city have threshed cross-town rivals united six one at old trafford my rehabilitation and. each with a double there for the visitors while tara added the consolation girl for alex ferguson's men this victory of port city five points clear of their closest rivals united. came out three one when is against stoke city. everton oil takes up all three points at full on in other games tottenham is back on the winning track as they defeated two girls to one place in chelsea a surprise in the last two leagues dubois queens park rangers. and now let's take
a look at brazilian football where current champ has a loss to lead to an error by two girls and mr charles to move third in the table the visitors open discourse eleven minutes into the game food. from a chess grandmaster midfielder found the net from the power to create a strike appeared to be too strong for a few minutes as goalkeeper diego pathetic of and went up in first half injury time to wallace cross half a head to helm at the net post by philip to finish their miserable night off for the hosts referee in culver city center learned several minutes before the final whistle. over to tennis now where dominic it's a book over has won her first ever career double duty title the kremlin cup that's after beating in the women's singles final here in moscow i think counted turned out to bear three sets it was the stunning player who took the open a rather easily six three but the eight seats stormed back in the second as she won it on
a tie break sibel who was also betting the decider taking it seventy five the match and that trophy. in the men's game it was good tips or average who claimed the title following a straight sets victory over come true and defending champion the detroit speech top seed tips ravaged opening set six four that was of no confidence and the second one was dropped only two games there to win the cup. now the north american sport of lacrosse has become an unlikely pastime in russia the exciting game drawing a lot of new followers here this year as consider but up of now explains. lacrosse is recognized as the oldest north american sport with origins in the future century the native americans who took it to their hearts even went as far as calling it the little brother off war many moments have occurred since then along its popularity in the past in indeed worldwide to flourish. as
a team game so it's got that competition thank is in the air so it's now here three dimensions and there's more scope for dinner clever stuff like that you know you've got to bring a stake in there but yeah it's like an extension of yourself you know i think very . well because i think it's kind of fun is ok you know padded up you know you know you think about her really but you see there's no like i got the ball and suddenly like four guys in the land i think it's ok it's funny you know it's amusing like ross has been a surprising revelation for russian audiences despite having few domestic players and just to be clubs one each in moscow and st petersburg this poor state sure is growing in every match between the rivals is a big advantage at the moment flooring fans are in the majority in the stands. i think in russia it's a it's an upcoming sport it's you know it's a brand new sport and i think you know we have a lot of americans a lot of british people here. china or play with the russians and teach the
russians how to play the cross and hopefully integrate it into the russian culture is a great game for young people because it's it's of the us but i dynamic you know it's good to get out there to become fit to get stronger and to make friends to be a team like ross has been a tool in big games in one thousand all for a night in no weight with canada topping the podium on both occasions it's also the national summer sport of the country the physically demanding pastime with its full context and not too dissimilar to the country number one sport ice hockey oh i was looking for team mates to play hockey and got into lacrosse and now i like it not a lot of people here know anything about the game and i like to watch people's amazed. faces when they see my stick and helmets in the streets it has a lot in common with hockey so i mean there's hitting i mean the game itself strategy involved it's pretty similar to hockey in hockey is popular here so i mean i think it could definitely grow in russia there is still a long way to go for course before it becomes
a well known sport in russian soil but if the enthusiasm of the people really playing it here is anything to go by the signs are that it will happen sooner rather than only because a motherboard or a cheat. and follow very sad news to tell a rider marco simoncelli has died after a crash at the malaysian military to pay that in supposing they twenty four year old was hit by two bites a ton of heaven after appearing before a crowd of edwards and bullets in a row the american right also fell but straight serious injury while fellow italian vaso was able to return to the pits the race was immediately stopped after the tragedy so in the challenge and i'm not a happy rider for two seasons following at the checkered career in the lower classes so yet another charity in a sport. where our medical staff arrived on him he was unconscious on the house because the arrest and started this.
suspicion we'd learn joan ask you usually the medical center. doctor of our stop didn't come or local doctors he was intubated it was possible to wait to take off some blood from the dogs and the c.p.r. was continued to that for forty five minutes unfortunately it was not possible to help him and six fifty six we had to the clear he was dead. ok up to date now more sports news from ra the globe in ties time whether his next goodbye. question is that so much of it taxpayers' money i mean i seriously am a real craigslist the weapons of mass mobilization you tube facebook and twitter they are favored tools able to bring segments of society together in the name.
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gathered in brussels trying to stop europe from sinking deeper into recession. and continued tension at the disputed serbia kosovo border as nations peacekeepers have failed to dismantle barricades erected by sides are ongoing standoff. hello and welcome to review my name is you national story now they believe in interim government has declared the symbolic liberation of the country from the forty two year rule of colonel gadhafi who was gunned down under suspicious circumstances while fleeing the city of sirte on thursday the incident sparked international calls for an investigation with allegations the honestly believed it was lynched by a mobile rebel fighter is the league's video portrays the man boast it was.