tv [untitled] April 20, 2012 2:30pm-3:00pm EDT
welcome back to our studio here in central moscow top stories now. in egypt square is once again filled with voices of discontent people this illusion with the calm of the revolution descend on central cairo thousands of protesting against the military rulers and one of the biggest rally since hosni mubarak's downfall. the clashes between protesters and police finally get the attention of the international community as demonstrators threaten of rage to coincide with the formula one race. started at least a year ago. if it wasn't for the sporting event. and chinatowns is growing like towards the arctic because the country's prime minister
tours europe seeking support for beijing's membership in the arctic council but china's bid to enter the fight for the vast energy resources. nations. in full is coming up in thirty minutes with me and the news team in the meantime it's the second part of the onion a show in washington. ok it's time for show and talents night's program now earlier in the week we spoke about activists efforts to raise awareness around the cybersecurity bill so we wanted to know if you thought that since the protests can be as powerful as those that we saw against sopa if the major tech companies don't get behind the effort let's go to prison for treason a study to find out what you have to say over the streets of d.c. to tell people the nation's capital what our viewers had to say on twitter facebook and you tube and she was talking to me she keep cordially.
activists are trying to raise awareness against a cyber security bill system so we asked our audience do you think that cisco protests can be as powerful as those that we saw again so but without major tech companies like google and facebook behind it other readers spawns from ten c i and you tube he said hell yes protests are going to be as big but the trick is to inform everyone since the government is once again leaving us in the dark that's why not a lot of people know about it i think a lot of people know about it only because the big companies that came in and say it and made it you know took stand you want to keep it or delete it i think i'd have to believe because you probably need the backing of some of those bigger companies to get the word out as much as they did for so readers sponsored dawn on facebook he said he doesn't think it will be the reason being a corporate entities behind the move are doing everything they can to make sure passes do you want to keep it or delete it sure why not buy cars squashed open it
wherever so activists are trying to raise awareness and gets a cybersecurity bill says but in a reader response from someone on you tube desk said cisco protests can be just as big as sopa protests were in fact they should be bigger since apparently last time we didn't quite get the point across if you want to keep it or to. make it public i'm sure enough people will even there know what it's about it will you know just from. if your solution will join the bills they'll call the senator will still protest be as powerful as we saw with this protest over many people think that major tech companies need to get behind these efforts in order for it to be powerful but there's really only one way to find out. thanks for your responses and here's our next question earlier in the show we spoke about how the cia seeking more authority to widen the drug war and get it how they
want to be able to launch strikes without knowing who the targets might be so essentially it's going to be more lethal and less discriminating so do you think that these so-called signature drone strikes could be considered a terror attack because no you think on facebook twitter and you tube and the response just might make it out here. now we speak a lot about france writes the policies of this administration but the truth is that most americans are incredibly far removed from the results of the consequences of their government's actions most americans have never mads even heard from civilian victims of these drone strikes but one pakistani lawyer has been trying not only to sue the cia on behalf of the victims and their families in pakistan but also to come to us to the us and speak about it and this includes talking about the signature strikes of the cia's now pushing for and get it all the problem is the us won't give him a visa and the odd thing is that she's not a car has been we was many times before but last may when he was invited to speak
at columbia university at columbia university law school four of these are was approved obviously year later it looks like he will not be able to attend the first ever international drone summit which he was slated to speak here in washington d.c. so why does he think that he's not right in earlier i caught up with human rights lawyer and research fellow at reprieve he's also the founder of the foundation for fundamental rights so i first asked him to tell us more about this is a situation if the state department had given him a reason for not letting him into the country. nothing more than that it's under the administrative process and this has been for last fourteen months i applied last year somewhere in. colombia wasn't. much in time previously now we're used to be processed within three to four working days and since you know to draw on cause it's mean fourteen months. process for us. these are to get into us so you think that you
can see specifically a correlation between the time when you started working on tran policy on representing victims of drone strikes to when you found it harder to get into the united states. certainly my previous weezer expired just before i started by a drone work and. litigation in pakistan specificially asking questions from us and cia which is the. minute agency which is running the drone program. and then before that i had an official to go to us but after right after that i've been trying for a last fourteen months and this time i'm trying to reach two people in united states to talk with them and can we what really is happening on the ground because i want you to take stories human stories of civilian victims who have been killed because a huge number of children women and elderly who have been killed in these drone
strikes. i would say americans have been denied the right to listen to what i have to say on behalf of all these gold newtons they do you think that there is something politically motivated going on here as to why are not being let in why are not allowed to speak colombia but also at first international and around some of that they're going to hold here in washington. certainly i think this is indicative of the high headed ness of c. a year in american state department that the us they're not ready to listen to any advice or anyway so friesan where we are questioning the process of crone program altogether and pointing out that there's no transparency accountability into what cia is doing covertly in another country which is sovereign and what is the us
achieving in the end people are becoming more and be american and this is certainly not making anyone safer leave america aside haven't even people in pakistan who are the allied state of united states they are not safer because of drone for programs and policy because it is pushing people towards the wall and driving them to militancy and extremism we do you've written about this given the fact that rather how one of your clients chose to go the path of trying to find a lawyer trying to go through the criminal justice system to see if the courts that actually think that situation rather than my view that going to militancy or jihad is to take up arms to try to get some kind of retribution against the united states do you think that if there were more signs i think that if not a better more open about this then we will see more people pursuing that route instead of like a tank creating more militant. certainly when we started this litigation program
two years ago at the time i was representing just one drawn victim family were the last two family members and for the last two years work we have been able to get more than one hundred families to take this part of it is peaking did complains and in just a stunned told them to the courts in a due process they are putting dear. trust on due process where america is not and this can go faster than we can reach out to all these people who are probably going towards the other side if only if the united states government becomes more transparent and accountable in its doing its in war against terror so i feel like dealing with people right are the victims because perhaps one of their neighbors and their family members was the victim of a drone strike you know what are the emotions the pay feel what do they tell you when they come here. but i think more than telling me anything they ask me certain questions i mean they asked me are they listening human pakistanis they do not have
any legal or human rights is they live. in any other commodity because no one seems to care what is really happening there and they ask me that what exactly is their fault because they certainly didn't do anything against united states whatever is happening is probably happening in afghanistan which is their neighbor it's not without it is happening it was on and if you look at the people and when i come across these who who represent. most of them are a lot of poverty line they do not have even money to travel from was it just on which is about two hundred miles away with about i think twenty military checkpoints but everything there are strip searched and it's quite a. deal for them to reach to to court get to caution to get to meet me because i cannot travel because of security reasons goober serious stuff on so it's
a very bad situation for them he think there is any positive side the use of drones and clearly there are a lot of legal questions that's don't have the answer and there's great secrecy in the program. is it better to have or worth and i'm wondering what your opinion is for there to be a drone strike that kills from afar that when you don't know that it's coming or for special ops team to come and raid your home in the middle of the night. well first of all i would like to say that there can be no upside in killing in specially in extrajudicial killing so this whole program is flawed because it's illegal it's against the law it used to do process and you can do nor just if occasion for this yes the problem of can see in terrorism has to be addressed but that has to be addressed under certain chords clearly do not why i laid the
very basic fundamental rights will be very. civilized society strives to and which works for so whatever it is us needs to stress on it's part of the pakistani government to take action and that action also has to be within the bounds of law i mean you cannot have the trigger have the cia director pakistani i.s.i. spooks going into was a restart and just killing people on the basis of delivery and vision that will be dispersed and has a beard and you lose a turban do or you might be. indicted on anyone if he's not who cares about a few skills and we have to work around that mentality which seems saw over it and right now what is happening in was a restart i want to thank you for joining us and i and i know that the organizers of the drones and i have been trying to get it isn't out there trying to put pressure on the governments unless he wins in. the end of the month you know we will keep an eye out let us know if there is any our entire situation thanks so
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start totty don't call. our guys it's time for it's and it's tools on ward and today we are giving it's you one of the most powerful women in the united states secretary of state hillary clinton went to brazil a few days ago to take part in the first open government partnership meeting now the u.s. serves as co-chair of this group with brazil and of purpose of the old civi g.p. is to promote transparency by corruption and strengthen the foundation of freedom within countries so during a twelve minute speech clinton not only took time to praise the other countries for participating but she also spoke about the importance of having a country that's open to all to be open we believe that countries with open government open economies and open societies will increasingly flourish
they will become more prosperous healthier more secure and more peaceful now in this group talks about promoting transparency they're talking about it on several levels government transparency i can all make transparency greater protection for journalists and those are just some of the few initiatives that partnership monster and fruit but we all know that if you want to have transparency you're probably going to need to listen blowers right and hillary also took a moment to praise countries that are working hard to protect them. and i want to commend slovak republic in montenegro for also introducing whistle blowing protection laws to ensure that those who expose corruption are not punished or harmed all right i have to bite my tongue long enough but how is it possible that we actually raise the protection of whistleblowers with a straight face we've now got the secretary of state advocating for whistleblowers not to be punished meanwhile here's one of the key players in america's growing war
on them right here at home i just like them to remind you of how hillary in the rest of the state department has dealt with whistleblowers do you ever former state department employee you peter van buren he's been on our show several times to speak about his book we meant well which exposes corruption in iraq while the us was on working in its reconstruction effort oh van buren was fired for weapons state department said were eight violations notably linking to a wiki leaks diplomatic cable in one of his blog posts so when he was fired just a month ago he explained to me why you thought he was targeted but it was approved by the department of state and more importantly the constitution of the united states protects for you speech with the state department is trying to terminate me for calling it bad judgment is in fact a core political speech of the very basis of the first amendment the right of people in america to criticize their own government but then behrendt isn't the only victim of the state department's witch hunt bradley manning wiki leaks have also been on the hit list after all and thousands of diplomatic cables were
released by the whistle blowing web site they suppose the inside communications of diplomats and the cables didn't all paint a rosy picture of u.s. diplomatic relations clinton had some unkind words at that point to say about the information down and out with the leaks itself. this disclosure is not just an attack on america's foreign policy interests it is an attack on the international community the alliances and partnerships the conversations and negotiations that safeguard global security and advance economic prosperity she even went on to say there is nothing lot of bull about and danger in innocent people and there is nothing grade about sabotaging the peaceful relations between nations so i think you guys get the point here right if you do anything to put the state department or the obama administration into a bad light if you embarrass them then you pay the price at that point it's not
whistleblowing it is an attack so remember when former state department spokesman p.j. crowley personally commented on bradley manning's treatment while he was detained they don't take too long for the pressure to mount and for him to have to resign or by now it's common knowledge that the obama administration's war on whistleblowers doesn't end with the state department there's a ministration has prosecuted more people under the espionage act that any of the previous administrations combined and i were not the only ones who have noticed just a few months ago we play this clip of a.b.c.'s jake tapper who decided to grill jay carney through praise to hard working journalists who were killed in syria. this is where the story this is history. has been so aggressively trying to stop progress of the malaysian series by using your speedometer just to see this what was the court heard it would be but you go to the six times before you bought it in this version it's only been used three times a story it just seems that you just make sure you want for christmas carols just
don't want to. thank you jake i cannot have said it better myself we send the secretary of state to this open government conference to be a cheerleader for transparency meanwhile team obama is building up their legal cases against whistleblowers who dare to embarrass their government you can highlight corruption of the rest of the world but don't you dare say anything bad or god forbid truthful about the usa so for advocating for the rights of whistleblowers abroad while viciously prosecuting them here at home we're giving hillary clinton a rest for the obama administration tonight's tool time award. ok time for happy hour and join me this evening archie producer jenny churchill and lauren lister host of the capital account here on r.t.
and the ladies i lead up well let's start with you know what you would call this good news bad news harry knew as india has launched a. and long range nuclear capable missile. india takes a significant step forward in its aspirations to become a regional and world power india successfully launched a nuclear capable long range missile the missile sent off from india's east coast has the capability of reaching deep inside china in europe. i believe. you said. india news story today the call that the china killer yeah well that's apparently what it was by the indian press china killer but no one seems to be at all concerned about this which i find quite fascinating because even back in the eighty's we were embargo in india to stop them from making long range missiles by not allowing them to have the right electronics but now today it's really fine but
when north korea did it i don't know a week everyone was flipping out well i mean this is a much bigger deal than the whole issue that was a huge deal when north korea had a failed global of rocket launch that ended up being a failure but this really didn't get a lot of headlines and that's kind of what you know people have been reporting so i was trying to see what the mainstream news was going to cover it and c.n.n. had a story that was so and so the reporter explained why this is not received the kind of international criticism that north korea's rocket launch and i listened to the entire package twice to see where i supposed to hear that but literally it was an explained i was not a car done by her to get it back and that i had laid bare that it were going to think that they explained why there was a difference in the way that this was received it's because we're friends with india now and trying to sell them our weapons well and they're also one of the largest growing economies in the world so i'll drag only go there we go and also rapid i think you want to make a lot of. obviously has been going crazy over the colombian prostitutes and coke
and whatever scandal with the secret service the secret service other people within the secret service are now going to be speaking with ted nugent over some comments that he made to look. ted nugent the singer and conservative activist making some comments at an n.r.a. conference this past week and they caught the attention of the secret service let's take a listen to what he had to say. but tell you this right now it's wrong because the president november again i want you to think dad or just next year. he also said something about how we needed to chop their heads off referring to the democrats and what do you think we're all one hand it's a free speech issue can say whatever you want in the secret service says we get that but when you say something like that regarding the president and the election we're going to have to investigate i don't know if this is a threshold then worse because on our show we've heard about early every day when
we talk about politics or whether it's the big bankers c.e.o.'s or politicians and i want to hand back to everyone and we're headed off i mean we say things that are absurd to the same extent kind of well i think in this situation you have to realize who's saying this we're talking about ted nugent this is someone who's literally known for being crazy he had a reality show where they took people from the city and had them live on his farm with him just to see if they could deal with his craziness and it was literally called surviving nugent crazy enough to do something i mean maybe he did like cut his leg during the show and he go ok he's got it in for you and i think it is going to be cat scratch fever has finally caught up to him and he's losing. it you know that's the song he's famous for. but whatever good for him it's good publicity everyone's talking about it here at his career get a little much needed boost out of us know what cats. hold. a resurgence.
in these days it's going to n.r.a. conferences and being allowed. pretty much yeah this story we don't have a clip for it but i just thought it was really interesting right because we talk a lot about copyright trademark law and this is. called the wagner motorcycle club and the f.b.i. basically declared them an outlaw motorcycle gang and so what they're doing in order to make sure that the. i don't have the f.b.i. infiltrating is they have actually trademarked their jackets catch right there and they've said you know like if you don't have the registration symbol at the bottom which is an insignia of the god of this shift then they know that you're a fake and it's trademark and so you can't fake it which kind of we are. going to give him his job oh yeah you know i completely agree i don't think this is going to stop the f.b.i. from infiltrating if they want to but you gotta hand it to these guys are getting some creativity now they have them to fight back with mark and i want it exactly like it just gives them a tool it's not going to keep
a cop i mean it's kind of like everyone always thinks if you ask a cop are you a copy have to tell you well robert downey jr tommy and that's not. going to kind of the same thing they can still make these charges or not to mention it actually join the gang and get the official patch have said takes a lot more time a lot more effort more resources and then i mean like what if we literally have under cover we have people do you think i'm going to do you you know sometimes then i want to thank you that was. what happens. ok let's just talk about what the vatican is complaining about now. that it can this ordered a crackdown on a group of american nuns that it considers too radical it says the group was undermining roman catholic teaching on homosexuality and is promoting fitness themes and compatible with the catholic faith. i mean really i mean honestly this makes me so angry because i was going back and looking at reports of
how many accusations there have been over the years of cover ups so not only ignoring sexual abuse but covering it up that about and did and they're going to lash out and make it public over some nuns who or what more lenient on homosexuality i just think that this is like the the height of hypocrisy and just read the most endearing kind i really don't think that's wrong with the church to get people to relate you know and that's what i was saying earlier today we're talking about it it's kind of one of those things where to stay relevant to society you know religion churches kind of have to make some concessions they have to do certain things to keep people interested in what they're doing and the catholic church clearly is you know that was the my space you know players you know the pope and out there just realize you know it all it was last screw it was going to. going though i thought it was about kate upton and the new three stooges are guys going to wrap it up i'm going to have it thanks for joining me that's the good night so
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