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tonight an r t it's not a good time to be a muslim in new york city a new review says that not only can police cross state lines to conduct operations but that spying on mosques and infiltrating prayer groups is not breaking any rules the latest case of police prejudice and we'll tell you all about it comes to protecting our civil rights and civil liberties we don't usually give government. and that's really what these bills have done in a lot of ways but with the threat of cyber war looming signing away civil liberties seems like the only logical solution to america's problems are so lawmakers what have you think but do all of these internet bills really have our best interests in mind or is there something more sinister going on we'll explore. they say that now
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they feel very comfortable that night they can sleep at night if they feel when they go to work that when they come home they'll be fined the motor city is finally getting its wheels turning again but not manufacturing cars one private security firm is thriving on the state's insecurities and offering protection to anyone who asks for it all had to michigan to find out how neighborhood patrols are ridding one of america's most dangerous cities crime. it's thursday may twenty fourth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz of all and you're watching our t.v. . well is targeting muslims legal turns out it's ok in the state of new jersey this after a three month review by new jersey governor chris christie's administration muslim leaders demanded a formal investigation into the n.y.p.d. out. it came out the police were targeting and monitoring muslim businesses mosques
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and other places simply on the basis that the people they were monitoring were muslim so what does this mean for muslim americans in the state of new jersey and does this mean racial profiling is acceptable there to discuss this linda sarsour or executive director of the arab american association of new york joins us now welcome linda so as a as a member of the muslim community what's your reaction to this. reaction to the information that new jersey thinks that the operation of the n.y.p.d. are legal says to me that it ministrations whether state or on a federal level just because they see something the legal it doesn't mean it's right i mean the united states had slavery in this country and we thought that that was legal and we operated a slave treaty so i think it's very important for me to say that racial profiling religious profiling is wrong blanket surveillance of an entire community is wrong
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and we're going to continue to fight this when you say that this is what this review effectively says that racial profiling is legal and ok in some instances while the new jersey state laws they don't have very strong laws around racial profiling but i don't really think that the investigation was focusing directly on the surveillance of the muslim community i think the question was was it legal for the n.y.p.d. to operate outside of their state jurisdictions and they found that that was ok that that was legal but i'm not sure if the state attorney general actually looked into the actual religious and ethnic profiling religious profiling piece of it and we're still waiting for attorney general eric holder to have to do an investigation through the department of justice of the united states so they didn't look into that part of it but do you think it's necessary that they do investigate that part of it. absolutely right now we have issues with mistrust between the new york muslim community and law enforcement which is everyone's public safety and it is in
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the best interest of our government that communities feel like they can be a partner with law enforcement and not feel like the law enforcement is the enemy of our community so i suggest that the attorney general who already said that he has been disturbed by the complaint and by the reports from the a.p. needs to act on that and that includes an investigation ultimately what this review coming out what what what what does it mean for members of the muslim community such as yourself i think this report just fuels the work that we're already doing we're hoping to see reforms in the n.y.p.d. just. looks like we lost her there but that was linda sarsour or executive director for the arab american association of new york. moving along now seems that the face of terrorism is evolving a poll shows that these days americans are more worried about cyber terrorism than actual terrorism and we're seeing the response to this fear came in the form of
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a controversial piece of legislation that is aimed at expanding the government's power to monitor the internet cispa has passed the house in a way it's a vote in the senate after congress' recess next week so are fears over cyber terrorism justified or is it a result of fear mongering r t correspondent abbie martin reports. according to u.s. officials it's the looming threat facing our nation today but you won't be able to see it hear it or feel it coming because it will be in cyberspace in today's world acts of terror could come not only from a few extremists in suicide vests but from a few keystrokes on the computer a weapon of mass disruption it's cyber terrorism and the fear is being ramped up by the day in the not too distant future we anticipate that the cyber threat will pose the number one threat to our country it is not a matter of if but when a cyber pearl harbor will occur it's so pervasive that there's even an entire
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exhibit dedicated to it at the washington d.c. museum a museum whose executive director spent thirty six years at the cia there will come a time when it will be within our lifetime it'll probably be relatively soon when there will be probably a major cyber terrorist attack. the strike could come from enemies abroad we know the. reason. cyber weapons wreaking havoc they warn. it isn't of this and the hype is working in a new poll shows that americans are now more worried about cyber terrorism than actual terrorism government officials also point the finger at how activists. like the leaderless group of anonymous who have been calling for civil unrest in the u.s. we are calling upon the citizens of the united states to physically protest warning that the group may launch cyber attacks on infrastructure the scale of such
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a possible attack is mostly unknown to combat the threat congress is pushing through legislation most recently for the cyber intelligence sharing and protection act it would increase surveillance by allowing corporations to give confidential user data to the federal government but critics warn these bills are in the way for government abuse when it comes to protecting our civil rights and civil liberties we don't usually give government blank check and that's really what these bills have done in a lot of ways these laws could also be used to capitalize off the threat of cyber terrorism by impeding net neutrality what could be a competitive threat it could be something that we wouldn't really you and i described as a curate a threat but really just a threat to their current bottom line or to their business cisco has already passed the house that is awaiting a senate vote one thing is clear the government will continue its attempt to control the internet in the blanket threat of cyber terrorism may be the perfect way to convince the people to give up their rights to privacy on the net once and for all abby martin our washington. more about cyber fears and what the passage of
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suspect would mean for your online for good i'm so i was joined earlier by mike responsibly he is the campaign strategist for access now dot org i asked with lawmakers were indeed taking part in fear mongering or are cyber threats a legitimate threat to take a listen. oh if i was in the circle of your mongering but the government certainly hasn't made the case for such a massive information program between private industry in the government certainly not enough to justify overriding constitutional protections. you know against search and seizures especially ones without civilian or judicial oversight so and so mike i know that your organization is pushing for not to pass it already passed the house. why do you me away if it does pass what would it mean for you and i and online users which is just about everyone these days. yes you're right it's taken up right now i think with the means is that this type of. pervasive
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surveillance state which we implemented these bills were turned to law i mean it turns us all into criminals and frankly doesn't make any of the safer so that seems like a bold statement there it turns us all into criminals i mean is there a capacity for them to overstep their boundaries or what do you mean by that so. i guess what i mean is that you know offline in order to access and you know whether let's say if the police want to get inside your house and had a warrant online though those protections are provided for users and so what they mean is that while buying citizens will have their information access without any sort of oversight and. you know any any measure that seeks to access user information needs to be narrow in scope and used to prove necessary and proportionate and. in the senate and doesn't survive for that i do want to bring in
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mike not everybody in congress is on board. when it comes to spank looting senator ron wyden and here's what he had to say recently on the senate floor take a listen it creates uncertainty in place of trust it a wrote erode statutory and constitutional civil rights protections and it creates a surveillance regime in place of a targeted. cyber security program that is leading to truly protect our nation so he goes on there to say that suspect a cyber industrial complex or far into a system that profits from a problem so you know we've heard about the military industrial complex is cyber in the next complex. yeah i mean there's a lot of money to be made off of user data you know i think that's you know why you
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saw a company like facebook to be valued so high it's because it is out of the information that it has. for people who use it service i think senator wyden also correctly said in another statement this is a reaction to it in that sphere. you know certainly cyber security is a very important issue but these measures make us any safer and you know i think. implementing these types of measures would create that cyber cyber industrial complex i think this is his word and that is his wording indeed but you know mike proponents are going to say they're going to point the hacktivist groups and they're going to use foreign threats as a justification you know they say look we need to do something to protect us from these very real threats what do you say to that. i mean it is true that we definitely need protection for these threats but the rule of law must be
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held up held online just as it is offline you know law enforcement agencies can get warrants to access user information certainly there are there will be times when they do need to do that but just because they need to do it doesn't mean that we have to step on fundamental democratic principles so are you saying that there's already a test him in place. that in states these safeguards and says is just taking it too far. yeah if we take it too far you know i think that you know we'll continue to work with lawmakers as well as tech companies to make sure that user privacy is upheld again will point to a statement from senator wyden and i believe that. privacy should be foremost it shouldn't be an exception so that any any sort of legislation that seeks to access user data should put privacy first ok so. it already passed the house.
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for a senate vote when congress gets back from recess so time is running out for people like yourselves and others that are privacy activists and really don't want to see this passed what can they do. access now or as well as other organizations like the electronic frontier foundation and cd to the world working together in a coalition to. you know to make sure that the senate continue builds. and it will continue to work with lawmakers as well as our companies to make sure that whatever type of cyber security legislation that is passed protects users and also want to say that we're also meeting with various government officials as well as start companies. in brazil next week for the rear vision narrow human rights technology conference and these types of meetings are going to be really important to make sure that going forward we can address cyber security threats as well as protecting
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users all right and lastly i just want to ask you let's say you are successful and privacy advocates are successful in preventing this last legislation from moving forward but you know we saw you there with some people say this is kind of like a. two point zero and this is if this is defeated and they can you expect to see more of a push similar piece of legislation to come before congress. yeah i think that you know as the internet community really wise up and takes the stand you know i don't think that if we defeat one bill that all of a sudden the people in the pack it up and go home and there's got already backroom lobbying go and pass something similar to those so i'm sure that you know for successful we are in defeating. i don't anticipate this to be the last fight right mike thank you for weighing and that was mike respond he's a campaign strategist for access now dot org we'll have an update for you on
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a story we've been following from the very beginning mass protests in canada have reached a boiling point and montreal's last night police and some three thousand protesters squared off again this is the thirteenth. of night of demonstrations and students began protesting after an increase in tuition. over five hundred people were arrested is the highest number of arrests in a single night since the protests sparked and montreal wasn't the only city dealing with ralliers there were also arrests in quebec city and sure brock the arrest came just hours after the quebec government said it would be cracking down on striking students setting strict conditions for any resumption of negotiations with student leaders authorities say as long as the protests continue there will be no talk of a tuition free in this case the police used a technique called catalin where they encircled the protesters cut off all the
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exits and then proceeded to arrest everyone in the circle also new quebec's provincial government voted last friday on in emergency law that would shut down some universities and impose harsh fines on protesters even blocking students from attending classes at the latest attempt at the local authorities to curb the unrest and cut the protesters off at their source they also banned protesters from wearing masks during demonstrations and want them to provide details of their protest i ten or areas beforehand to which protesters responded with this you could call it a protest route it's blurred but you can guess which finger that is you know the vulgar finger to they that's the canadian authorities either way these protesters say they're here to stay until the tuitions debate is result and of course we will
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bring you more on the canadian protest as it unfolds. well it has become one of the most notorious places in america the demise of the auto industry sparked the downfall of detroit from tens of thousands of a. homes to an understaffed police force to a government on the brink of bankruptcy detroit has its fair share of problems it's become the poster child of everything that can go wrong in the city and it's attract the refers and journalists in the city to shoot so-called to ruin pornography but we decided not to go that route we traveled to the motor city and saw glimmers of hope we found people in the in detroit that are resilient people that are sick of waiting for the auto industry the police department or the local government to get its act together they're taking matters into their own hands to make it a better place it's a city often described as post apocalyptic and if you come to detroit it's easy to
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understand why around just about every corner abandoned homes charred by neglect even downtown skyscrapers stand vacant. it's what's left after an exodus of people out of the motor city the statistics just as grim as some of the landscape sixty seven percent of children here live in poverty and according to the f.b.i. detroit tops the list as one of the most dangerous cities in america when michigan central station opened its doors in the early one nine hundred that was the tallest a rail station in the world and it was hailed for its beautiful architectural design but it shut down in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and since then the abandoned landmark has come to symbolize the demise of detroit but some detroit residents are fighting back. taking matters into their own hands to take back the city. at the threat management center people are trying to defend
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themselves and protect others we create peace by creating a condition where the violent criminal does not feel as though they can attack successful one. then they'll brown trains men and women to be threat managers. they patrol the neighborhoods of detroit we're looking for anything that looks like you're in the rough parts of town the service is free and every time we see someone we greet them. respectfully. and we turn they respect and this ritzy detroit neighborhood residents pay them to patrol they can be a lot more proactive than the police in a city where police are scarce and reported seven out of ten murders go unsolved it's a service welcomed by the community they say that now they feel very comfortable at night they can sleep at night they feel when they go to work that when they come home they'll be fine you know for. something like that. and
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while they're fighting crime that way others are literally selvage in what's left of the city there's about seventy thousand vacant homes those vacated homes can be a treasure trove of household fixtures from sinks to cabinets to doors and all can be salvaged and put to good use while co-residents income. pick up materials they can reconstruct their homes in detroit employees at the architectural salvage warehouse are disadvantaged early released prisoners like i actually couldn't get a job you know and they actually gave me a shot you know so i'm very thankful to be grateful for that here they're given a second chance at a job at life and from here they can go into the construction business or they can start a business of their own and while they specialize in the art of deconstruction others are focused on building a green infrastructure in detroit there's plenty of land for it with support
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gardeners all across the city this year the garden had about fifteen hundred different gardens part of the. greening of detroit is urban agriculture plots of land are used to plant vegetables that provide healthy food to the community our vision is to have a city that has that behaves as a healthy ecosystem seeds of hope being planted signs that despite some of the bleak landscape hope for the future is taking root in detroit r.t. . well if you feel like you can't go anywhere without being watched these days brace yourself for this it's a license plate recognition device police can slap these things on their cars capture the license plate of each and every car that passes by and collect a treasure trove of information on drivers they're being used in california and texas and now other states are pushing for them as well now proponents of this say
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it can come in handy in catching criminals but privacy advocates are saying wait a minute what is the government government doing with this information and just how far can this go on news managing editor for reason twenty four seven news j.t. to chile had joined me earlier from another state where law enforcement is pushing to get ahold of these devices i asked his opinion about whether it is whether it's made it's making for making society safer or is an invasion of privacy take a look. well they're promising to make this for they always do whatever they can you know put this tech on the road or introduced into our lives but of course it can invade our privacy anything that's tracks with the promise of stopping crime tracks us it can be used for any purposes that they want to put that information to this particular device tracks our license plates and knows where we're going how often we've been there they can so it can track our patterns of travel and contract
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who we travel with. so yes can that be used to stop crime you know theoretically in the d.d.s. behind the current push to put these cameras in to utah so they say they can track a drug smugglers and make it they can look at also track us going to the store going local meetings going to see or you know girlfriends going to see whoever might be and so they're collecting all this information some of it seems trivial what can they possibly do with this information that they have stored well among the uses they put it so in areas that are pretty highly saturated with these cameras for instance friends of the washington d.c. area they talk about going to nightclubs and having these cameras out there that can spot license plate long and see conflicting gangs and the police and the saying . you know it's you know mediate between the gangs make sure there's not committed a problem this is a great use and actually you know they probably can meet least potentially can stop violence in this way but if they know who are gang members because you already have
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to track these people in order to know that your car is from competing gangs there they also could know that you've got people from why the political groups there you know if they're tracking people by gang affiliation they also struck them by party affiliation there really isn't a limit on this any of this information they can be used for good purposes to stop violence to recover stolen property can also be used to figure out who's going where who's voting for watch who's supporting who to what extent is this technology used today where or what police departments actually use that. about a third of big police departments usually qualified as being about one hundred police officers or more throughout the u.s. these exact figure is about two years it was thirty seven percent i'm assuming the figure is gone up since then and not down the d.c. areas have really saturated by these numbers some other urban areas and i think the l.a. area the california highway patrol these the offense use them along the border in trouble for the sexes let's talk about putting the men on the federal level in utah
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and arizona but a lot of police departments have these on a more or less at hoc basis don't talk about it don't have policies in place so monitor how the information is used so it's really kind of hard to know exactly what is being done with this information and would you say that there's a push to get them more widespread for more police to get a hold of these things oh absolutely the put the cops love these things i mean i think that promises to make their jobs easier they look putting a camera in place is not putting a police officer in place that can cripple police officer or something else who's things are automated super cop sees a license plate is going to put the numbers in manual and these cameras capture them scan them automatically and put them in a database someplace else and then i don't and i'm not surprised the police agencies like these things so there is definitely push to put these now police officers and proponents of this are going to say hey we could use this technology to catch criminals to catch if a kid goes missing try to track down
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a kidnapper or you know somebody that could be pose a danger to society is so if you look at that argument could it be a good investment. well i mean in terms of stopping crime we can make all of our houses article i have sick and see through them probably something most of violence did right there with you know a lot in the process many of these tools that they bring along can be used to stop crime and there probably are good application is and i think i'm sure there are good up occasions recovering stolen cars one of the big things they talk about apparently simply driving through some mall parking lots they found a stolen cars and stolen license plates just like that but there's a tradeoff between when you scan license plates you don't have hundreds of people's travel you know where they're going how often they're going and that can be used in bad especially if you put watches on certain license plates somebody you want to know more about it's pretty easy to go out into their lives just. by following with a drug that is there any proof that this technology can actually be prevent
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effective in preventing crime there doesn't seem to be any studies i've seen see that in terms of recovering stolen property and really automobiles there is some indication of effectiveness but they don't seem to deter which is the big thing they've looked at so far they certainly don't seem to deter smuggling they don't seem to deter crime list is no evidence to that effect yet that may come down the pike the fact is these cameras are being put in place without any kind of conclusive evidence that they do anything to deter crime they don't lower the crime rate whether it's violent crime or property and it sounds like not only is there a lack of evidence but citizens don't know when these things are being implemented in their police force. no there's no real public discussion of this i mean it's usually a see a line item of you know about them purchasing one of these but how many people actually know what license plate recognition means if you even bother to look at a budget for police departments very few people do and there certainly is no discussion in most jurisdictions about so policies that help you make some sort of
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use of where the cameras in the place most important actually keep place with a camera schieffer all right and lastly for those that are hear this and are outraged over it and they're like hey i don't want this but i don't want police being able to track my whereabouts at any moment at any time what kind of concerned citizen do about this or can they do anything. well the the first english words the question was and was are actually needed explicitly so much what each one of. the situation on each solution so the you don't want to use you want to know it's going to be a lot of simply asking the question and making the answers you get close to start and then push the ball is used to control the use of the information age what do you do with this mission how will you store where you are going to utilize that you built yours with letters and simply how you would look seems like at least regulation is needed or that you know people should at least know what the power in the technology that they are being used on the j.d.
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thank you for coming on the show that was j.d. to chile he is the news managing editor for reason twenty four seven news. that's going to do it for the news for tonight but stick around the big picture is coming up at the top of the hour we'll see what's currently underway in the euro zone greece is once again sinking into the red it's people increasingly unhappy with the so-called mirco z. austerity cuts and now the country is thinking about leaving the eurozone in short economic calamity and that's nothing compared to what could happen in the u.s. if the markets take another nosedive millions are poised to lose their jobs if the ryan budget is passed in the super rich are looking at even more tax breaks tonight host tom hartman will grill venture capitalist and co-founder of the true patriot network nick hanauer ever lying on the super rich to fix the economy is the only way to go and later a special forces.


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