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ecuador ditches a key trade agreement with the united states in a hardline response to washington's warning against granting asylum to whistleblower edward snowden who remains stranded in a moscow airport. and on the heels of snowden's revelations about britain's massive snooping operations it turns out that u.k. police are secretly monitoring social networks on a daily basis. more violence and destruction is feared in egypt as a country braces itself for mass rallies by both pro and anti-government protesters and the deepening divisions between the opposition and the ruling elite.
this is r.t. coming to you live from moscow i'm marina joshie now ecuador has abandoned a key u.s. trade agreement to thwart what it calls blackmail by washington over america's most wanted man edward snowden that's as the whistleblower remains stuck in the transit zone of moscow's sheremetyevo airport scott has the latest. all nations involved in the continuing snowden saugor are walking a political and diplomatic tightrope at the moment particularly as you mention ecuador and the united states relations between those two countries seem particularly strained at the moment now earlier this week one u.s. official claimed that a preferential trade agreement between the two countries could be in jeopardy if ecuador to grant political asylum to edward snowden or again they want to help edward snowden saying and i quote a country should not be rewarded for bad behavior however ecuador's response to
this has been quite defiance they preempted any move by the united states and have withdrawn themselves from the trade agreement saying that ecuador does not accept any pressure or threats from anyone nor does it trade with principles also admit them to most entire interest however important those may be a clearly defined response from ecuador basically refusing to be blackmailed now also rather interestingly and i think rather tongue in cheek as well they offer the united states twenty three million dollars in order to improve their human rights record now all of this of course comes between strained relations between america and china and washington could barely hide their anger after hong kong allowed edward snowden to leave the country the chinese authorities saying that the extradition request wasn't within the legal framework and of course washington is trying to put the pressure on russia was well saying that moscow should hand edward
snowden over despite the fact that there is no extradition agreement or extradition deal between the two countries for their part russia simply saying that he doesn't come under their jurisdiction because he hasn't yet stepped foot across the border you have to ask if he really did intend spending this long in transit in a moscow airport now the u.s. began talks with hong kong over extradition proceedings on saturday six days ago now it seems that he fled. in cong it could have been in a hurry did he leave in a panic without much of a plan or did he have a plan and it simply gone wrong along the way now we are led to believe of course that he is still in transit here that shot a matter of what he doesn't have a valid visa to enter russia and his passport has been invalidated and revived meaning it's very difficult for him to leave the country as well now we claim he had this refugee document granted by the ecuadorian government but ecuador and now saying that that isn't valid so it does seem as if he's stuck in limbo at the moment which surely cannot have been part of his master plan. now the thirty year
old former cia employee has a handful of options when it comes to seeking refuge he left hong kong for moscow on sunday sparking a wave of media speculation over his next movement without valid documents and it's believed snowden was planning to pass through moscow on his way to have an a cuban the last stop had a final destination ecuador however the lack of necessary paperwork has grounded him and sheremetyevo airport in the meantime but as whale has said it would be likely to grant them the same week or asylum if it receives such a request and icelandic officials have held unofficial talks on sheltering snowden so we could conceivably see him an ing up in any of these countries michael ratner and attorney for julian assange and wiki leaks says washington shouldn't expect other countries to obediently comply with his demands when it comes to a whistleblower at the hands of the fact we're going to see what country of nine
million people breaking its trade preferences saying this is not the old latin america they used to have where you just beat us up with a big stick we don't care about your trade purposes so it gives me more hope that it's noted that i may be able to make a good one i know that it's time for every country to speak up if this is not just about american citizens and our email being looked at in all our phone calls but the u.s. combined with the u.k. which is getting into all the fiber optics and that's really a particularly what i think germany was concerned by going after all of that and germany to its credit has spoken up of course germany had the stasi operating in east germany and i think it's very very concerned that ten percent of their population was under heavy surveillance from the stasi now it's one hundred percent and perhaps that is one of the reasons that has made germany so sensitive on this issue or not so sensitive having the sensitivity that all countries ought to have. now for more on this we're now joined live by millionaire's daughter
a member of the european parliament representing the pirate party thanks so much for joining us here on r.t. to discuss this so at this point hong kong let him leave russia says he is not officially in its territory and what could that mean could that mean that at this point nobody wants to have to deal with snowden. i don't think it necessarily means that anyone wants nothing to do with snowden but just maybe also i think the larger political issue isn't really where snowden is the larger political issue is why are our governments doing this to us and why aren't our governments trying to stop other governments from doing this to us ok well at this point though let's focus on snowden and you know the developments around him because it's really huge so washington is pressuring to get him and. looking at positions of china and russia could they have used him as a bargaining chip and if so why haven't they done so your thoughts. both.
doxil is to could have used him as a bargaining chip i think it's clear that whatever surveillance mechanisms were put in place to keep track of our population since q. that power balances between different institutions in society we can continue to do that with or without snowden we need politicians to stand up for the moral values of kind of autonomy for the individual previously on the right of individuals to have control over their own lives. and so regardless of what happens with snowden that is the fight that we need to have and i think despite that snowden would want us to have. well the united states of us point vast multiple governments to hand over its citizens and why do you think no country listen to foreign fold up with any action. well the united states just can't know very dramatic about these things and so we were talking in the congress a lot about whether or not snowden has committed treason against the united states
which actually under the american law it's very unlikely that it started but so i think using a dramatic language to basically. incite the interest of the media and media is very happily playing along with that kind of. well it's a gross pursuit of mr snowden and i think it's not very interesting for citizens workflows even the political situation anywhere in the world to to. to listen to so much to those debates because i think the larger issue here is that we have. governments and companies and a kind of self interests by rule which leads to the decrease of native sons of the individuals over the lives of the individuals and this is a development i think we need to think very carefully about if we don't want to stop because it's not good when you have to earn even power distribution in society you can bring a lot of social conflict and arbitrary teeth into the system and if there's one
thing we know about systems of governance in general it is that arbitrariness in those systems where you can't predict them or you feel very powerless and you can't influence your situation it normally leads to the system going very bad. and people well obviously snowden's opened up a pandora's box here but let's speculate about his fate i mean what could be happening next to him as we know that obama said that there is not going to be any wheeling dealing or trading when it comes to that word snowden so in your view what could it mean for snowden where is he going to end up in a foreseeable future. that is impossible to say and i'm a member of the european parliament i'm not three in their best a gator or even a fiction writer who speculates about the future in that way listen i'm going to have a balanced debate about how do we do in order to ensure the previously of individuals and the autonomy of individuals to have some kind of power over their own lives i wish for mr snowden all the best and i hope that he is not caught by the american
government because i think he cannot rely on having due process or justice from that got the moment. but but speculating about how or if that is going to happen is really kind of out. of the to the ts that i would like to do ok fair enough no one has a crystal ball this point nobody knows what's going to happen next but one more question before we let you go. about ecuador its position on this why do you thing ecuador scrapped a major trade deal with united states if noton worth the sacrifice. i don't think that they did that for snowden i think that ecuador was looking for autonomy and sovereignty from the interference of of american interests over their domestic policies so. basically ecuador has decided that they want the autonomy and independence. it's how they deal with how they
deal with the celts domestically because this is something that a lot of latin american counties suggests for a long time felt that they didn't have the distinctive united states and so the fact that they don't have an extradition agreement with the u.s. should not be interpreted as them doing in particular it's mr snowden it's a very i think that you should see it more as a general expression of of independence of the dorrian state to decide to explore new ways forward that are in basically the hands of the ecuadorian it's all right that was a millionaire's daughter a member of your own parliament talking to me thank you so much for joining us here on our t.v. thank you. and you can find all the latest updates videos in x.-plane analysis on the story on our website of course dot com also got news there of another stir being caused by the n.s.a. leaks which have prompted the pentagon to turn to what it described as network hygiene measures the army has blocked personnel from logging onto the guardian's
website to prevent access to press coverage of the scandal. also more intelligence leaks this time from the top ranks with god and with more on the line saying the us for star general who was in charge of an alleged american cyber strike on a radio nuclear site is in trouble is being probed for spilling the beans on the operation. now the u.k. is dealing with a surveillance scandal of it so i want to as it's emerged that a special police unit has been spying a british citizen a social network pages on a daily basis r.t. sarah first reports on how rights groups are reacting to the latest invasion of
online privacy. we know when we when we post something on facebook there is it's well known of the possibility of course that that's going to be seen you're putting it out there in the public sphere but i think these revelations really causing concern because of the scope of the intelligence gathering this is twenty four hours a day seven days a week your facebook twitter you tube and it's a little known unit in the metropolitan police known as succulent it's social media intelligence and they've been working as a lead to the team of around seventeen offices combing through this information recently we've been looking at the rise for example of the number of arrests that police have been making on the back of what people have put on their twitter accounts but of course now you've got this in the context of the revelations over prism and that's really blowing the debate wide open about intelligence gathering in the u.k. and the u.s.
in about exactly what privacy means in the digital age we'll talk more to us about this i'm joined by big brother what is deputy director and the. other thank you very much for joining us i thought every time that we speak this sort of black mirror esque reality i mean it really does seeing the stuff of fiction is becoming part of daily life and that what we're putting out there is being constantly monitored i think also they can very importantly prism of course you've got information being at the should be hidden from the world the scene is private but of course the sort commitment this is stuff we're putting in a public forum so why is this a problem surely this is exactly what the police should be doing when not saying that because shouldn't take place what we're saying is that is it necessary proportionate is actually in the public interest and if so then there needs to be a framework there to see consistency throughout all of the police forces you know there's a huge storm at the moment the u.s. and u.k.
. intelligence gathering after the revelations about. being described as prisons in little brother is that back well i think for a lot of people it will be about i mean when you come down to the very small nuances of it it's you know it's all private information and what we perceive to be private and you know we all know the digital world and christian and things that we know it isn't actually as private as we'd like it to be and so we do feel like i'm in a state basis that should be some safeguards in place for people to go around in and complete freedom unless we do something wrong in the same should be put forward in terms of social media that my place of that to go back to a step about the information about. it certainly going to be a cause the further discussion still rage is of course on the back of the revelations of the prison so how very this hour how has britain's involvement in military campaigns abroad affected the safety of citizens at home we'll be
exploring that in just a few minutes. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry was a big issue. whistleblowers in principle we were told every society needs them to expose the excesses of those in power the reality is very different though if you're someone like bradley manning or edward snowden you literally take your life in your own hands the message is clear be silent or face dire consequences. what happened to the arab spring dream is egypt's first freely elected president any cheering.
fear poverty economic failure and violence remain due to egypt's attempts to escape chaos leave it while we keep our. egypt a year in chaos. welcome back you're watching r.t.l. street iran has returned to egyptian cities after several deaths in clashes between pro-government protesters and the president's opponents this week both sides have vowed to bring out huge crowds in the coming days and gyptian politics isn't deadlock where the opposition brushing aside leader will hamad morsi is latest proposals for compromise are his bill true is following the developments in cairo egypt is stealing itself ahead of the first of two rival protest groups marking the first anniversary of president mohamed morsi in power the country is worried as i will be further violence off the several days of clashes in the conference between
rival groups demonstrating either in support of the president or against him for days protest is called for by the islamic alliance which is a coalition of islamist parties in support of the president including the misson brotherhood's freedom and justice party this is preempting a nationwide protests expected on sunday organized by coalition forces and grassroots campaign who collected at least eighteen million signatures calling for the president to step down they say enough is enough nothing has changed in the last year since he took office and he's not fit to govern the country so just comes and makes a really security crisis across the country we've already seen several people die and hundreds injured in clashes across the government in the days leading up to the protest we're seeing an increase of civilians arms and bring those weapons to protests which is led many to call for the army to step in and secure the nation
the military for that. positively do not want to get involved in politics but they will step in if there is increasing violence on the streets there's been many problems in egypt over the course of the last year the president mohammed morsi himself admitted in the speech on wednesday part of me is in freefall there are it was eating bread and water shortages again and also bread prices and rising rights groups for their part saying that they have witnessed an increase in abuses in addition to torture being demick in the police force as well as a crackdown on basic rights and freedoms this people are saying is a make or break moment for the president. now author and journalist tariq ali believes it tipped is divided between those who seek an evolution towards democracy and those who are still in the mindset of the old regime i see it goes without saying and morsi himself especially admitted it that he's disappointed people as far as those people who helped to bring mubarak down a concerned or
a sizeable section of them he's changed absolutely nothing since he's come to and these protests are to show that the democratic figleaves is not enough so what will happen on sunday i think will be quite decisive it's not the case that he is the rest of support it's just the country is very very sharply divided between those who want some meaningful change and the government which is maintaining continue to be with the previous regime and in some instances getting worse. now the u.s. president is on its first trip to africa since two thousand and nine in a drive to revitalize relations and trade with the continent barack obama's visit comes amid booming chinese investment in the resource rich region obama's received a warm welcome from officials but millions of africans feel let down by washington's policies u.s.
aid to the continent has been slashed since obama took office while america's military activities and support for some kind of virtual african government has also stoked discontent and while obama has promised to do more to help the african people some observers say washington is driven only by geopolitical self-interest. the american economy is the working group growth and they need cash they believe accessible materials africa house an important supplier of that but they're also concerned about the influence the long term effects the last few years they have been through in the last ten years it's been very much a part of chinese who've taken the. total control of the constant very good in the nation. and the chinese and russians alike and how we made life easier for the american south and the americans are also feeling the strain strain because the africa has been able to choose the most serious of investors are very changeable cars and the best of all at the same time the expression. i'm afraid obama's trip
is very much of a signal of concern by the americans that they're losing the losing influence on the output side it's suppose we can leave that it was not there or you know. just over a month ago the brutal murder of a soldier in london which the killers blamed on the u.k.'s foreign military campaigns prompted some in britain to question whether a foreign wars do make the country a safer place that debate has been reignited by the recent u.k. budget review which brought sweeping cuts to welfare but left the army unaffected artie's poorly boyko went to investigate. they're accused of hacking a soldier to death on the streets of london and now preparing to stand trial in tokyo because it's black so we don't even see the problems and you just want to see the chilling message an indication of what drove the attack but the politicians say it's nonsense it's because you told the police to leave the region it's like police
say equally to tell you to eat meat between this media age before you can see all the actions you will be sure he sees who are risking their lives in a good for the sake of freedom but there are those who took part in those military campaigns fast hand who disagreed gerry says he was disillusioned by the reality of what fighting for freedom in the name of britain's safety and fall ved compared to some of the excesses in afghanistan and iraq. which is a very serious called cost of college the lie but it's absolutely true and we're very lucky that already being so few attacks law they said one of the banners we went to afghanistan on there was peace base keeping and in our peacekeeping operation we ran out of explosive artillery ammunition that gulf between how the war is presented to him the bleak reality is all too evident for many in britain's vast muslim community we are in contact with our friends friends and family are
back home and more we know what exactly is going on over there while we see. some of the media reports from the u.k. or do people additions there are speeches in parliament it's not reflecting the realities for afghanistan the war and yet there's been almost no public or political discussion about the western wars that drove the attack in which is because they obviously want to prosecute the wars the wars in afghanistan iraq and the project and have a look there's a project in the middle east is very longstanding it pre-dates not eleven to me there are public policy documents which side that told me because they want to keep . doing these things there are plans for syria iran is on the is on the horizon as well they need to keep growing up this kind of audiological and continue to attempt to dealing with the killing killings law they say from the real world our mission in afghanistan does remain vital to our national security was to prevent that country from being
a safe haven to al qaida from where they might plan attacks only u.k. so i think you have to be particularly stupid as a prime minister not to see if you invade other people's countries and you're like do you care about but the list of terror plots for oiled by m i five on you case soil makes for frightening reading since the religion attack a number of people who believe that a clash of the civilizations between white persons and muslims is inevitable has gone out to almost two thirds of the population far right movements such as the english defense league have been using the incident to fan the flames of islamophobia in the u.k. creating tensions that make it harder for ordinary british muslims to speak out about u.k. foreign policy many muslims are afraid for on the. road calling them to extremists or terrorists but to what if you speak to most of them they're sympathetic to the message of the attacker but not to. his actions because they are against any kind
of terrorism any kind of terrorist be it's a here or in any other country including afghanistan iraq or anywhere else the war on terror has always been sold as keeping britain safe but to those who object to the ukase involvement overseas savage attack in which merely serves as an example that it may be doing the exact opposite. london when we come back pulitzer prize winning journalist and author mark mazetti talks to us about america's so-called chatter wars and the drone operations the driver. sigrid laboratory mccurry was able to build the world's most sophisticated robot which on sick leave doesn't give a darn about anything to nj mission to teach creation why it should care about
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with me today is pulitzer price winning new york times reporter mark mazetti the author of the way of the knife we're going to talk about the cia and how it turned from a spy agency into a killing agency of the drones the ultimate weapon of its secret wars thank you so much for coming thank you for having me in your book you're writing about how covert operations sometimes blow up in serious face how often he said if we could. they tipped the balance in the other direction i'm sure there are lots of smart people in the cia who also understand that but why is it still happening well there's a lot there's probably several reasons if you look at. sort of as they described in the book sometimes the cia just gets relied on because presidents like secrecy presidents like using the cia to do things so for instance in somalia in two thousand and six no one really knew what to do there was there was no strategy so the cia comes forward with this plan to arm a bunch of warlords and take on islamists and the reverse happens that the islamists end up being strengthened. why the other problem is that the cia is set
up to do operations and analysis so in some ways the operate the analysts are grading the work of the operations people that's very difficult for the cia when if the analysts are really doing their job they're examining the drone strikes and they're saying are they radicalizing more people than they're killing. is there a real downside so they're basically giving a review to their own to their own work and that i think that for a good period of time there was not enough really serious scrutiny among not only cia analysts but other american intelligence analysts about the impact that the drones were having we knew that they were killing certain people they were killing some al qaeda figures some low level figures but in terms of radicalization so immediately harder thing to figure out but there was not enough of that serious work being done let's zoom into pakistan in what way did to the cia's covert
operations benefit forces there which are very much anti-american. well you know you've seen the the growth of a number of groups in in pakistan for instance the pakistani taliban is really for the most part of creation of post nine eleven it was reacting to pakistan's support for the united states and they've been in a lot of attacks inside pakistan against pakistani government forces you have seen strengthening of various groups whether it's a direct result of the drone strikes are a direct result of american operations for instance across the border in afghanistan it's sometimes hard to tell but the there's no question that various groups have both come about and been strengthened in the years since nine eleven as a reaction to american in pakistani government operations in the region i think that what we're what we're just beginning to see is is perhaps you know the radicalization of the radicalization of people it's
a term to basically mean that people sort of see what is happening in pakistan and elsewhere and then carry out operations on their own for instance may two thousand and ten the person who tried to blow up a truck in times square an american citizen of pakistani descent was not successful he was brought into an american court and he sort of famously said that the reason he carried out these attacks was because of the drone strikes in pakistan and elsewhere it's a question about whether you know we're going to start seeing more of these types of things in the future there's quite a bit of coverage on civilians dying in those strikes and i remember reading and high believe it was in the new york times they cited a source an unnamed u.s. official who said that goes where ports are helping terrorists do you see it the same way to you do you feel like when you were poured on innocent people dying in those strikes you were helping terrorists do i feel like that no i think that we
cover war if we write about war you have to write about war in all of its. aspects and you know it's a i think it's a very thin argument to make the case that us reporting on strikes that may have gone bad or may have killed civilians is it's the reporters who are strengthening the other side i mean i think that these things have these calculations have to be built in built into any kind of decision when you decide to prosecute a war and a specific example of a dual heidi is shining and i'm sure you've heard about him the journalist who's in prison in yemen he reported extensively on the drone strikes there and he shot the footage of children killed in one of those strikes he was jailed he was about to be pardoned by the yemeni president and then there was a phone call from president obama who reportedly insisted that they keep him in jail what do you make of that you know i don't i know the story i don't know. in
depth sort of i know others have reported extensively on this story i mean i think that there is a there's no question that there's been a crackdown by the administration dismissed ration on information as a whole and reporting on various secret programs i mean you see it overseas you see it in the united states there's been more leak prosecutions of the obama administration than there was under the bush administration and it makes it incredibly hard for reporters whether they be american reporters or foreign reporters to get at the basics of these shadow wars that are going on because although it is all classified in the past it has been easier to sort of find the basics of things is now i know it's quite hard have you felt that crackdown in your own work on your own skin yeah certainly the it materializes in different ways in the very basic way is that. people who you once spoke to and we're we're we're free to meet with you don't call you back or tell you i can't
meet you anymore because there's this fear of of implications for that now these are people who in the past it felt you know it was important to talk to journalists to sort of try to get as much of of the basics of the truth out as possible now they basically feel well it's not it's not worth me going to jail to talk to you the question that you can't get an answer to but would very much like to from the cia what is it i'd like to know much more about these so-called signature strikes that are carried out in pakistan where the cia does not know the identities of the people that they are firing at it there but they're based on who patterns of activity so if they see people doing missed suspicious things that they suspect is a militant activity they're authorized to carry out a drone strike used to be they only had to know they could only carry out a strike specifically when they knew who was down there and that's how they end up targeting weightings. and so when you don't have specific intelligence you're sort
of basing it on to some degree assumptions and there have been strikes that have gone bad there's a concern that the cia could be targeting not just suspected terrorists but also the the competition of the governments that the u.s. supports in other words political opponents that the targets could be politically motivated is that a concern that you would share well i think what tends to happen i mean is that when you are reliant on foreign governments and their intelligence services to carry out some these operations as the u.s. has sometimes they are in yemen and pakistan is the u.s. getting fed intelligence by the government to take out people who are not. or affiliates or the like their opponents or or rivals of the government i think it's very difficult to know and i think there have been cases if you just look at yemen . where the united states has had very poor intelligence they've been very reliant
on the government of yemen for these strikes and in one case there was a deputy governor of a province and yet he was killed i believe in may of two thousand and ten and is now believe that the united states was fed intelligence by this person's rivals in order to kill this person so it's this murkiness of how these wars are carried out i think that can lead to these types of situations you mentioned the u.s. is setting up new drone bases they need targets to keep them operating right could this business of killing suspected terrorists turning into a self generating them to price sort of the cia would have to come up with targets to keep them running well i think that you know i think the cia is these days a conservative organization in the sense that they have seen their past and they've seen all of the controversies of the past they would at least want the white house to sign off on whatever they did now they can of course present cases like west africa new threats and it's not just the cia it's the pentagon it's it's parts of
the national security apparatus that do may legitimately see threats but there is an interest too to perpetuate some of these operations a concern about scaling back you can certainly look at places in the world that look very dangerous and see opportunities for carrying out more of these shadow wars that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen but you can certainly for instance look at mali other places west africa as quote unquote the next front without really seriously examining well are there costs and consequences of the u.s. getting involved in these places as opposed to handling it in different ways will there only be more problems for the u.s. to get involved then if they just step back and let it handle be handled in different ways what do you make of the administration's attempts to come up with legal opinions on why it is justified and legal to execute people without due process without
a trial. you know they they have basically examined the. did what the bush administration did in terms of of say of defining the world as a worldwide battlefield and say if we find people on that battlefield they are not they are they are they are they are soldiers and their enemy soldiers and they need to be needin need enemy combatants they need they need to be killed i mean there's very in that sense there's very little difference between what president bush authorized and what president obama authorized i'm sure you know that the majority of american support. strikes. as long as there is no threat to u.s. troops they seem to be fine with the strikes. does this surprise you this culture of acceptance i think it's surprising the extent that the public seems to embrace it without without too much controversy or too much sort of discussion i
think that the the sort of the ministration is gauge the mood of the american public which is partly this wariness about these long costly wars of occupation like iraq and afghanistan and people see drones and drone operations as a cleaner. more secret something that's out of the public view. as something that's acceptable whether that's going to change or not i don't know i mean i am surprised that that neither in the public or even in congress there is a whole lot of of intense scrutiny and for instance in the john brennan confirmation hearings it was amazing that they didn't find out that they didn't even have the the legal opinions that were justifying the drone strikes and they tried to hold up brennan's here nomination in order to get them and they didn't get them and they still approved brennan i'm sure you read the report about the cia bribing karzai his office was cashing backpacks plastic bags and what not unnamed u.s. officials told the new york times that much of the more money goes to paying off
world lords and politicians many of whom have ties to the drug trade and in some cases the taliban the result of this appears to be that the agency empowers the same networks that american diplomats and law enforcement agents say they're trying to dismantle they're trying to fight how do you explain what seems like conflicting priorities of different parts of the u.s. government. you know this one is hard to explain exactly what the cia money goes for how it's distributed what the purposes other than to sort of gain influence in karzai and in the circle i mean i helped on that story and it was very difficult to i mean we still don't know and karzai has come out the come through they confirmed it right so how much of this acts it cross purposes with. you know the work of as you said law enforcement officials or diplomats i means there is a lot of angry people in the united states government that this goes on but it's
still goes on and is it is approved i mean the cia has been giving large amounts of money to karzai and other warlords since nine eleven it's their argument that this is how an afghanistan operates this is how afghanistan works with large bags of cash and also the stated objective is to help afghanistan get rid of corruption when at the same time if you are feeling it. thank you thanks very much. i. we speak your language might be well or not advanced. for music programs as documentaries and spanish matters to you breaking news a little tentative angles keep these stories. you hear.
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