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coming up on r t concerns grohl over the expansion of the n.s.a. surveillance since the war on terror started employees were spying on their lovers the agency was spying on the united nations and that's just what we found out over the weekend we'll speak with a former n.s.a. employee turned whistleblower ahead the conflict in syria may have reached a boiling point secretary of state john kerry says he has no doubt that assad's regime used chemical weapons on civilians so it is intervention inevitable a look at the options for the syrian conflict coming up and speaking of chemical weapons a new report details how the u.s. once helped saddam hussein and iraq ease with its chemical weapon attacks on iranian troops we'll dive into that topic in just a moment. here
it's monday august twenty sixth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm maggie lopez and you are watching our t.v. well the national security agency was once the most secretive organization in the entire u.s. now hardly a day goes by when we don't hear about the n.s.a.'s latest scandal and this weekend was no exception to major headlines ran on the front pages of newspapers around the world today the first was a revelation that a number of n.s.a. employees were actually using the surveillance program capabilities to spy on their lovers or as they called it operation love. that's according to the chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein there was about one case per year during the past ten years that we know about and the people who participated were reportedly disciplined the second major revel. that came out this week the
german publication der spiegel reports that the n.s.a. managed to crack the encryption codes protecting the un's internal video conferencing system allowing the n.s.a. to spy on the un this comes just a short time after revelations came out about the agency's spying on the e.u. i was joined earlier by bill bennie he is a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. and he helped design some of the very programs that the n.s.a. still uses today despite before he turned into a whistleblower we started off by talking about the twenty eleven fice a court ruling that was recently published by the obama administration it is an attempt by the administration and the n.s.a. to prove that the n.s.a. quote lawfully operates and fixes mistakes when they are detected i asked binney if he thinks that that statement is true. no i basically believe all the fights court orders to do domestic spying are basically general general warrants and they're in
violation of the constitution that is the right for privacy the fourth amendment principally but also the first amendment in terms of. by giving that data what that does it it tells them who's in who's associated with who internally in the united states that's that's violating the right of free association of the first amendment so when we have however on the other hand you have john bates the judge having this scathing rhetoric within those court documents what does that do does that kind of solidify or not solidify the idea of the fight the court being a rubber stamp court well i mean it what it finds according it coming out and saying they really have no way of verifying them even the chief judge there is that that he's no way of verifying what he's being told by n.s.a. or the f.b.i. i mean that i've been saying for a long time they don't have any technical means of verifying the validity of the statements being made to them or i mean and even in in august of two thousand and two the face of court came out story was broken by the new york times with
a five the court detected. seventy five cases where the f.b.i. solicited misled the court in soliciting seventy five warrants well that probably was only the tip of the iceberg too so i mean they haven't this is a longstanding problem they've known about it for a long time and they never really have said have tempted to solve it now one of the purposes of edward snowden having revealed the huge surveillance apparatus today is that we presume that he thinks that things got out of control with the n.s.a. surveilling capabilities but already at the point of no return here where the n.s.a. can't be dismantled it's just too big no all you have to do start on funding them and they'll have to start cutting back on what they're doing so that's the way to do it like representative a marxist and asked you to to to fund this activity that's. a way to start if they don't stop start cutting even more just cut their funding that's the way to stop them now when you were in the n.s.a. were there any reports of employees using these kind of surveillance capabilities
to spy on their lovers spy on anyone else so they wanted to not that i was aware of i didn't i did not know of any of that when i was there of course i left after nine eleven so that's when all the domestic to domestic communications was starting to be collected by n.s.a. but in say it's possible right now it's possible you know so this is a disability for abuse and they're looking to point out is that edward snowden the n.s.a. is saying that they are overwhelmed with trying to figure out how edward snowden got in took these documents because he was covering his tracks very very well so if someone like edward snowden didn't do it and there is a ton of these people that are on tractors that have these are legitimately others can do that too right well yes and the problem is they don't have any way of monitoring what's going on across their network and what they need to do is put together an automated system to do diagnostics of who's doing what on the network when they do it so that they could pick out people like snowden when he was
downloading files as he did it or relatively soon thereafter i mean within fractions of a second so that but they don't have that capability now and so that's that that's still a major problem for them they can't monitor they don't capable of monitoring who's doing what on their network on the i think to bring up is that with those employees that were reportedly reprimanded for being a part of that love i.n.t. the way that the n.s.a. found out about that was that they self reported so wasn't the safeguards that triggered that that told the n.s.a. something was going on it was the employees yes and the other thing you should gain glean from that particular disclosure is the fact that all of this information is in the databases of n.s.a. very interesting now talk about the relationship of the f.b.i. in the d.h.s.s. and the n.s.a. because you were thinking a little bit earlier about how the n.s.a. isn't the own. one with all of these capabilities and all this data right well in bart gellman zinn review with the director mueller the f.b.i.
in i think was march of two thousand and eleven for time magazine it was published in time magazine he he talked about the f.b.i. using stellar wind from iraq from october basically of two thousand and one so the f.b.i. has been using that database all along and and also in in march or thirty some march of two thousand and eleven also he testified to the senate judiciary committee where he was saying that he could go into the data to a database the set up with the department of defense where he could go in and with one query get all passed and also all future e-mails as they come in on a person so that says there's content being stored on people inside the united states because his response was how would you prevent a future fort hood that meant someone inside the united states becoming radicalized and keep doing it having a terrorist act or completing a terrorist act inside this country that means he's got access to their e-mail so that's that's getting back to this massive collection that mark klein only exposed
one one note of that collection in san francisco but that's the upstream collection process and we also know do you feel vindicated by all this information coming out from an effect. i guess the way i view it is that. newton did a great public service because he presented information that cannot be refuted by the government and now they have to face what they've been doing and i say whistleblower bill bennett thank you so much for coming in ther and it's not only the n.s.a. scandal that the president is currently dealing with he is also a need deep in syria's civil war as aggression in the country escalates secretary of state john kerry delivered a passionate speech today saying that the u.s. has little doubt that syrian president bashar all asado and his regime used chemical weapons on the syrian people after these images of dead children and adults have gone global u.n. investigators were finally allowed to inspect the area where the alleged chemical
attack happened right as the u.n. convoy entered the area snipers began firing down on the group forcing them to temporarily retreat for its part the assad regime denies using chemical weapons on its people instead it blaming terrorists for the attacks on u.n. inspectors but that excuse is not good enough to the obama administration u.s. defense officials said over the weekend that the navy has moved a force that warship into the region and all of those warships have the ability to launch ballistic missiles if tensions come to that warplanes and military transporters have also been spotted at britain's acro tieri air base in cyprus that's according to the guardian now within the country itself the syrian observatory for human rights group says rebel forces have taken control of aleppo in northern syria and that they have affectively cut off a crucial supply route for government forces so it looks like all of the chess
players are moving their pieces into position for a possible intervention for more on syria's options i was joined earlier by brian becker a national coordinator at the answer coalition he was here in d.c. ahmed foxey is a middle east analyst and he was in new york and from miami was mostafa is the executive director for the syrian emergency task force and i started off by asking was if western intervention in syria is becoming a more realistic prospect. i think that way that the secretary of state spoke today and came out sort of saying unequivocally that the regime is the perpetrator behind the chemical weapons attack and in the way that he spoke about it i think that signifies that there will be some sort of military action or a military response by the united states and international community so i think now we're coming to a point where we will see something happen but what scale that's that's another question is it a good idea. absolutely i think any time the regime in a government uses chemical weapons these are weapons that should be. and if
something like this is allowed to happen as it has been in the on separate occasions where it's been documented that it was the regime that has used for example in the different areas of syria this was the largest sense and if there is no response by the international community that is for the green light for the assad regime to continue these insane humanitarian rights abuses brian you're on the other end of the spectrum how do you respond to what he just that the idea that the syrian government would carry out poison gas attack the day before the u.n. inspectors were coming into syria to investigate a previous reported poison gas attack is completely ludicrous this is a stage provocation by the so-called free syrian army the so-called rebels who are fueled and have their weapons fueled by foreign proxy governments of the united states including got power and saudi arabia not democratic governments they're
staging a provocation because they know that without foreign military intervention they can't win they can't defeat the assad government militarily and they don't have a popular base significant enough compared to the assad government support to do the job so they're doing everything they can in concert with the hawks in washington kerry those in the pentagon establishment who want to go in as they did in iraq in two thousand and three as they bombed libya in two thousand and eleven is they want to do again in syria this is a stage provocation i want to get you in here you believe that the u.s. has the moral imperative to get involved in syria if there is proof of chemical weapons used by the assad regime now given how difficult it will be to ascertain who used chemical weapons with one hundred percent certainty what do you think the next move for the global community should be. put uses of chemical weapons in parenthesis to highlight it till now we don't know for sure who used the
chemical weapons in syria we know that there were chemical weapons used but we are not certain not even minimum degree to justify military intervention however if the proof is concrete to prove that the syrian regime have used chemical weapons then definitely the united states and the international community have a moral obligation however your track record of the u.s. administration's with allegations of chemical weapons use your existence we remember the big theatrical show done by colin powell at the security council before the invasion of iraq on the. cetera until today there is no trace of w m d in iraq so we have to be really very very careful if chemical weapon was reused then this would justify an intervention not only from
the united states but from the international community now and one thing you have been in syria with great frequency one of the biggest objections to the u.s. arming the rebels is that the weapons could eventually get into the hands of fundamentalists and be used against us characterize the free syrian army soldiers that you've met and worked with and is this a fair criticism. but first of all i just want to say real quickly that this isn't like iraq in terms of you know you know speaking about weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist there we know that there are chemical weapons in the hands of the syrian regime we know that is used them in the past with unequivocal evidence we know that by no means do the rebels have the delivery systems if they even in a crazy world got chemical weapons to use them and we know that it took five days for the for the inspectors to go in and inspect and these things of the regime had nothing to hide you should have let them in right away and proven that these rebels
have used them now that being said to go to your question i think it is it is very important that first of all everybody wants a political solution everybody wants this crisis and i think the syrian people are incredibly tired but i think that if we do arms are flowing to syria whether we like it or not whether the united states or the west arms or not and they're going to different groups and sometimes not the right people at all and is open the room for for extremists sort of come in into the fray of of this conflict so it's imperative that we arm the right people in the right people are the ones that defected from the from the army from the regimes army because they didn't want to shoot innocent children didn't want to shoot their own people and you know now when i did see a lifeless bodies dying in life as bodies wrapped in shrouds in areas where the regime did not allow people to go in these are not things that will go on my own and so let me brining here brian what we're going to say the united states government has been on a course to overthrow the government in syria because it's an independent
nationalist government it was formally syria was formally a colony they did the same thing in libya they bombed libya in two thousand and eleven. they invaded iraq in two thousand and three we see war after war after war what's the real reason for the war it's not because one government has a better or worse human rights record it's not about chemical weapons the middle east possesses. thirds of the world's oil the u.s. wants to show that it's going to control this resource rich part of the world the bush administration and the obama administration are doing the exact same thing using chemical weapons as a pretext to carry out in illegal act of aggression against a sovereign country the people in the united states by the way by a margin of ninety percent ninety percent oppose any military strikes on syria and that i'm going to give you the last fifteen seconds here. first the free syrian army as the gentleman from miami referred to was he says that they have defected
and they went because the one through to shoot any civilians or children on the other side if they were armed by the western powers there. civilians but just because we have a different group. doesn't make the enemy that was brian becker a national coordinator at the answer coalition ahmed foxey a middle east analyst and was most often the executive director for the syrian of emergency task force. and while the u.s. considers action in syria in the wake of evidence suggesting the use of chemical weapons a startling new revelation from foreign policy magazine shows that the u.s. played a role in helping saddam hussein use that sarin gas to defeat iranian troops back in one nine hundred eighty eight here's how according to declassified cia documents that were discovered in the national archives in maryland using a satellite images u.s. intelligence officials conveyed to blow the location of iranian troops to iraq
fully aware that hassan hussein's military would attack with chemical weapons including sarin a lethal nerve agent and it gets worse according to those same declassified cia documents a senior u.s. and fish bowls say they were being regularly informed about the scale of the nerve gas attacks they are tantamount to an official american admission of complicity in some of the most gruesome chemical weapons attacks ever launched i was joined earlier by jamal avi he's a policy director at the national iranian american council and i asked him how shocking these revelations are and whether or not iranian suspected this before there was a pretty widespread perception that. you know the u.s. was to be involved in coordinating with iraq in supporting saddam in terms of providing intelligence and things like that this is something that was fairly widely known that this had begun at least towards the end of the iran iraq war to
now see the. you know sort of the sprained grounds on the u.s. side about the fact that saddam was using chemical weapons. that this is actually. not true. the u.s. knew well what saddam was doing according to the report top officials were well aware that saddam planned to use chemical weapons in those particular instances in which the u.s. was providing intelligence for iraqi strikes so i think that any sort of the near of of ignorance about the use of chemical weapons has sort of been dispelled by this report and this certainly isn't the only report that is coming down to our in recent days and weeks last week we learned about the revelation that the u.s. and the cia in particular executed the one hundred fifty three overthrow of iran's democratically elected prime minister so what do these two revelations say about the history of the u.s. and iran and how the u.s. is intervening. the revelation last week that most
a deck was toppled in part by the cia this is something else that was it was widely well known it hadn't necessarily been corroborated in the terms that it now has but we had never seen these documents laying out very clearly the u.s. role in what are perceived in iran is two major injustices committed against the iranians now the u.s. had already apologized for what happened in one thousand fifty three madeline albright towards the end of the clinton administration had went to pains to to apologize for what had happened and to acknowledge complicity i think this is important i think that events like this shouldn't just confirm the worst suspicions that the iranians have which certainly they do and certainly many of them actually are true but what we need to be able to do is look at this history to these decades of enmity between the two countries and figure out ok how do we acknowledge that these happened how do we move past and avoid what we're seeing in the middle east
this spiraling conflict and so many ways into a potential war between the two countries i think they. hopefully what this can do is sort of air out these these past injustices and provide an opportunity to move past them in order to avoid something even worse coming in in the future but at the same time do you think it could draw divine didn't even start a divide and frayed a relationship between the u.s. and iran at the moment it certainly will be used by. people who don't want to see a reproach monitor any sort of movement towards improving relations between the u.s. and iran to say look this is the united states. committing these crimes against iran and so we can deal with them. but again you know there are. just as on both sides there are crimes of the committed on both sides and. the hope is that these historical grievances don't serve as. an obstacle or something that sabotage is
what i really think is an opportunity right now for the u.s. and iran to beginning gaging of very serious timely negotiations to discuss some of the the really serious things that are happening right now and let's talk about this new opportunity that you're speaking about of course iran has a new president so go ahead and talk about how what role he plays in iran and the opportunities that he might offer to the united states in terms of finding those that those frayed relations yeah well i mean given everything that we're seeing in the region iran has in the recent recent weeks been sort of a rare beacon of hopeful news iran held an election in june in which. has an rouhani one overwhelmingly won in the first round sort of defied all expectations and he was somebody who was campaigning on a policy of. basically ending the conflict between
iran and the united states and and the west over the nuclear issue talking about the need to have some substantive dialogue. to knott's engage in some of the rhetoric that the math without government had been engaging in and really promising to. potentially reach out to the united states and have real dialogue and i think that for rouhani and his government the calculation is if there's a deal to be had they want to pursue it and see if it's possible but if the united states is not actually interested in the deal they want the onus to not be on the wrong on for a deal not not manifesting so really you know it's a big question right now ok is the ball in the u.s. court or the iranian score iran has elected this moderate who is saying the right things if they meet at the table and iran appears willing to make some compromises the onus is going to be on the u.s. to be able to make similar compromises and that's going to be on the sanctions a very interesting compromise indeed and i know congress is right now is currently
debating whether more sanctions should be in place jamal obvious policy director at the national iranian american council thank you so much for joining me thank you the evolution of humanity is deeply connected with the way humans process information and plan ahead part of our biology shows that humans naturally tend to think in the short term rather than the long term basically a person is more likely to think about what will happen next week rather than next year or an hour compared to a day or so on it's a survival trait that in part helped our ancestors a lot during more savage times but now it's a trait that might leave us in danger of upcoming strikes that scientists and other experts have warned of for some examples of that the residents laurie harman asked .
energy supply hunger our biggest issues need to be addressed with long term solutions but in today's modern society we face issues with short term solutions over and over again. just in climate research or moji blackfeet says our short term view is dooming us from a climate change perspective in america a large energy lobby prohibits the growth of clean britney will energy and of course the automobile industry will fight emission standards were formed to with a nano any long term changes we need to make to address humanity's impact on climate change is warranted by our corporations short term interest in turning a profit. sheila bair was the chairman of the f.d.i.c during the two thousand and
eight economic crash she wrote in a paper quote in my opinion the overarching lesson of the crisis is the plan based short term thinking that helps to bring it about when you have behaviors like executive compensation very you have courting to current year earnings conditions financial workers to only be concerned with the sort term that short termism do and doesn't two thousand and eight and it's bound to do must act now mentally again. in africa short term solutions are repeated leave be thrown at the problems of poverty and food shortages. little is done for long term solutions because the payoff is and immediate it's a classic case of give a man a fish to eat for a day teach a man the fish will eat forever no one wants to take the long term route of teaching but it's just easier more cost effective more p.r.
friendly to give that fish today. physicist stephen hawking notably said recently that humanity needs to get off the planet to survive but instead of pouring money and energy into space exploration we pour massive amounts of resources into spying on citizens power struggles and campaigning for short term personal gain instead of long term gain for humanity. as individuals and consumers are just as guilty and our attention spans are getting more and more short term through social media we now bait in one hundred forty tear d'oeuvres the bottom line is our government and our culture are both focused on the short term and it could very well cause the demise of our own species in the not too long term from now tonight let's talk about that by following me on twitter at the resident.
all right well we've heard of activist journalism before of reporters using their pen and paper or their microphone to push a point but one canadian interviewer took that idea to the next level laurie wellborn is a radio host and columnist for the profits newspaper she was interviewing colona mayor walter gray when she did this in the middle of the discussion she pulled her top off and then began asking the mayor about why female toplessness was frowned upon in canada it is not a legal. just deemed indecent all this to raise awareness on the national go topless day but the mayor kept his cool. difference probably is that. a woman must cause the destruction of the five year lows incredibly distracting mr mayor and yours are currently very much on display great goodness.
with people like you is the only type you do because i don't want to start you would simply want your group for a few months so we'll get together and you can look at your movie. now the best part is that in spite of the fact that a topless woman was sitting in front of him and interviewing him mayor gray stayed through the entire interview wearily if ever glancing down what a guy it would be interesting to see how american lawmakers would react in a similar situation given all the things that american lawmakers do these days all right that's going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r t america and check out our web site r c dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter at meghan underscore lopez and don't forget to tune in at nine pm for larry king now tonight's guests are emmy award winning actor forest whitaker and also the famous film director and producer lead amul spot for
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