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this is r t one story dominating tonight a boeing seven three seven passenger jet has crashed in russia's city of cars and while attempting to land it killed all fifty on board including two children investigators are looking with a pilot error or technical problems or weather conditions caused this crash. good morning she's thanks for joining us just after one am now here in moscow as you know if you are normally join us late on a sunday we're into a monday it's normally a recap of the last big stories of the last seven days but the first fifty minutes the program tonight dedicated to a big story that's unfolded over the last few hours in fact monday has been
declared a day of mourning now in russia's tatarstan republican after a boeing seven three seven jet crashed at the capital's airport is kill all fifty on board a bit earlier it had flown from moscow it was trying to land when the tragedy happened these are the latest pictures from cars on international airport that have come in in the last hour that jet crashed and caught fire apparently during its second landing attempt there were two children among the forty four passengers and six crew members who perished the search and rescue operation ended about three hours after the crash up to speed with all the developments that have happened here over the last couple of hours oxys lucic half an hour they construe at least lucy hi there really grim night isn't it certainly a grim a night for all passengers all people all fifty people aboard flight three six three who had perished in this tragic accident and the details are still a bit murky we know that the airplane had taken off from dulles out of our air proport right here in moscow. it was about an hour and forty minutes flight to
close on an hour and a half after it had taken off the crash took place now we know that the crew reportedly told the control center that it wasn't ready to make that first landing and so we're hearing that the plane tried to make a second attempt at this is where the details get incredibly murky at either crashed as it was trying to land in the fuel tank exploded or perhaps there was an explosion as it was landing and then the crash took place now that is still being the subject of an investigation by people who are looking into this but again we don't we know that all forty four passengers as well as the six crew members were killed now there were some people who had previously flown on this flight and we had a chance to speak to some of them i want to play those sound bites now. you would need your. seem to understand airplane from cousin to moscow early on sunday afternoon the flight itself when quite smoothly but just before the landing of the
plane started vibrating. initially i thought it was the weather between we go to out of the plane and turned on the weather was quite nice the plane was shaking it was direct from side to side well into now first attempt at it was really bad landing and i felt like the plane was going to roll off the runway and. you know. i was on board the same plane but flying from because i'm on a flight earlier in the day technically the plane seemed completely out of order the air conditioning didn't work struction system didn't seem to be operating tables were broken students were trying. now this was a boeing seven three seven plane this is been described as sort of the workhorse of airplanes in the industry there is that if there they've had the most number of accidents of course there's more of them flying around which could of course be be related to this this plane itself quite old it was operating since the one nine
hundred ninety s. we believe but that's not necessarily a reason for it to crash of course there's been many airplanes in operation for years but again investigators are trying to get to the bottom. ok you see come from thanks very much what we've been getting the thoughts of aviation experts in russia have brought throw the thing with me now is chief academic officer at the embry riddle or nautical university in the united states dr richard move that if we get hold of him however thanks very much. hi there dr thanks very much for being with us the crew apparently told the control tower as we heard from lucy just now that they were ready to learn and they went for the go around before crushing it is that normally if they tell a crew they can come down should be the crew would say i will go around until you can no. well first i'd like to begin by airing my very sincere condolences with all of the family in friends and loved ones and to all the
russian people for this tragic tragedy i did want to begin with. in terms of what may have happened and we're all collecting data information above that i think we need to think as follows this is actually a safety issue is security issue emergency management issue where everything was done right and something you don't want to have locking failed occurred some combination of before and i'm sure will end up being what we find there after more data is collected and analyzed nyet certainly days i'm aware they still haven't found those two flight data recorders they're on planes at this i gather at the back i guess it makes sense because not much the back that would be the last to hit the ground and we know this particular boeing seven three seven been flying for twenty three years and lucy had been saying there is not a particularly long time for this type of play. well in my opinion with appropriate maintenance in terms of the schedule in terms of the effect of this income hence
the maintenance it shouldn't be a significant issue unfortunately times in which we live notion of combinations of safety security and the other things we need to be looked at right now although my first impression based on pollution every day is that we may be dealing with more do involving human error affecting safety but what i just stated can certainly be contrary indicated it's more information is collected and analyzed i'm told to start airways runs a fleet of the seven three seven planes amongst others seventy seven three hundred four hundred five and there's this was a five hundred what does that actually mean that the five hundred was built after the three hundred therefore is there any safe. well i don't have the best information on that my specialty is safety and security and emergency other interact but i would like to state that as we continue to collect and analyze data i think we'll find a combination of not only human error as a possibility but then we'll have to be looking at all these technical
possibilities too and part of that would deal with how maintenance was carried out part of it might have to do with things like so avatars and things of that sort although i don't know one of the nation suggesting that it occurred at the moment the authorities so far saying weather potentially wasn't a problem there was some low cloud but nothing like fog cetera it wasn't freezing either we're also hearing that this airport it was the hub of this airline instead leave that because an international airport had the latest of at the called a cat three. landing equipment so that should have helped get the plane down even if there was bad weather yeah. i think you're right about when i use the term human error i'm referring to the perception the decision making of one of more individuals in the crew of major. and decision that might be a tension issue again when we get to flight that will know much more but again.
we have to look at other parts of these two though i don't have any significant relevant information about the possibility of security issues like terrorism so it's something you have to be thinking about i think at the moment we're still more focused on the human error in the human error can not only be with the crew but of the individual crew might have to do things occurring with them but again we we look at all these possibilities and we analyze the data and come up with that does conclude no doubt i guess the authorities will be of course hot on the heels of that awful vulgar grab just just last month as was the authorities would be looking at that as an initial reports were that it was potentially explosion before just before it hit the ground but again that we've also got other information through coming as well that the that the explosion was after hit the ground that could have been just normal as you like a normal event of it hitting the ground so there's nothing official yet but i guess as you say it's something that the authorities will be looking at and again pilot
error isn't this stage being ruled out by investigators so i suppose the first thing they're going to be doing is replaying what was said to air traffic control and what was in those flight data recorders as and when they find them here. well you can with looking at human error we look at the crew but we also need to look at people involved in maintenance and again in the study of marriage with the kind of data collection capabilities that are certainly. there are a number of unfortunate security and emergency management issues that occur every day very. worrisome for potential associations but linkage is to learn about practices that were good or not going to continue doing very come out occasions in europe or. in operations so a lot of information will be collected you know that we bought this particular incident but a number of things that have been current if you were to why it's not up there together and hope that we get to the bottom of it and make it much less likely
anything like this occurs that you know absolutely i'm sure more details will be coming out over the coming hours and days and again as you said our thoughts very much with the friends and relatives and loved ones of those poor souls that died tonight but for now dr richard bloom officer at the embry riddle they were nautical university united states thanks ever so much. thank you ok let's get some details of that tragic plane crash in central russia again and refresh ourselves on the tragic events of the evening it was a boeing seven three seven jet traveling from moscow. apparently lost altitude exploded during its second landing attempt none of the fifty people on board survived two children the eldest son of tatarstan is president deed or among those who were killed monday as a day of mourning for the victims in we don't yet know what exactly caused the crash as we've been saying at length investigators are looking at a variety of reasons though including maybe technical problems or pilot error or a combination of both rescuers looking for those flight recorders two of them to
try and figure out more details that boeing a seven three seven five hundred plane had been in use since one thousand nine hundred tada stan been using it for five years. shortly after the crash out of the savings but russian aviation expert yuri carriage she explained to me what could possibly go wrong with flight three six three. both have to know why did the crew decide to go. or the because of technical malfunction one of the because the weather conditions or the something else maybe could. possible reason. to know for sure why did it have to change. flight or if it was a technical one small function what kind of function was it was a to mechanical malfunction. something happened to the litigation agreement of the aircraft and providing.
them article for the automatic landing maybe. the litigation equipment didn't lead to the crash well as aside just the early reports from the authorities that the weather wasn't particularly a problem there wasn't freezing there was some low cloud but focus i want to ask your icarus whether khazan airport itself is a difficult place to lab. well i wouldn't go to really difficult the airport to. get a grizzly if you are for meaning of the. reason landing. craft . six fully automatic landing but. part of cried where. actually the aircraft levels are just before the landing. craft. have
to want to very carefully. indication at all what it would. probably be indication locally or should immediately go around procedure that will crash land. with me earlier on well at this stage variety of factors we've been saying could of course and based crash analysis of the all important flight voice data recorder should provide some early vital clues as to what flight three six three let's take a minute to look at what the key causes of air tragedies have been over the years should we today's aircraft are incredibly sophisticated machines of course we know that the very safe to the very sensitive as well how they're flown more than half cases of crashes a caused by flight crew errors despite all the computers there to save it if something goes wrong various technical problems with the aircraft are responsible for just under a quarter of problems leading to accidents there of course bad weather conditions
can play a big part to their behind thirteen percent of crashes finally the other nine percent here of their actions or because of terrorist hijacks or attacks but. as the years go on less and less those figures are from plane crash info dot com. and spend a final minute now just to go over the details or just showed us of that tragic plane crash early in central russia it was a boeing seven three seven jet traveling from moscow to the probably lost altitude exploded during its second landing attempt none of the fifty on board survived two children and the eldest son of titus downs president were among those killed monday is set to be a day of mourning for the victims in tartus down we don't know what caused the crash yet investigators looking at a variety of reasons including technical problems and pilot error rescuers are looking for flight recorders still to try and figure out some more details as soon as they can that boeing seven three seven five hundred series plane had been in use in one nine hundred ninety and tatarstan air had it for the last five years.
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this was the beat life. it would take them some big stories nova to shape the last seven days on r.t. in this week's interlude between the two rounds of crucial talks over iran's nuclear program since mixed signals that on the one hand the u.n. watchdog declared that atomic projects were virtually frozen since president rouhani came to power and on the other hand u.s. lawmakers are insisting even more sanctions are placed on iran that's
a move that derail the whole deal the white house me times are urging congress to give diplomacy a chance but the powerful israeli lobby is insisting on tougher penalties the previous round of negotiations failed to produce any result reportedly because of france's surprise opposition francois hollande is now israel has already assured that france will be tough and will not easy its pressure on iran during next week's nuclear talks said hussein was serving in the arabian policymaker he used to be on iran's nuclear diplomacy team during negotiations with the i says france's behavior shows double standards here. france has a block to peaceful deal because of israeli claims i think this is a historical mistake france is making the i has a bolt five thousand. inspections of it your in your nuclear program and frequently has announced there is no evidence of day version toward the end is
asian this is clear but i really dealt with the real concern of france is a nuclear bomb because france has a strategic relations with israel way israel is not a member of n.p.t. and possess a bowl to four hundred nuclear bombs therefore france should not be concerned about nuclear bomb france help israel to master nuclear bomb france held in the two master nuclear bomb therefore france has a very very bad record. well should the talks result in something israel isn't happy with it's reportedly ready to join forces with a former sworn enemy for a possible strike on iran britain's sunday times newspaper suggests saudi arabia is working closely with israel's mossad on a military campaign if iran's nuclear program isn't heard by any agreement in geneva under this reported plan saudi arabia is understood to be thinking about allowing israel to use its own air space that would also assist israel in deploying
combat drones helicopters and tanker planes in fact the saudis are furious apparently and are willing to give israel all the help it needs that's what this anonymous source allegedly told the newspaper the sunni muslim gulf kingdoms alarm that dominated around could get a nuclear weapon some time it's a concern of course shared by israel to iranian political analysts said mohammad marandi thinks that if the saudi israeli plan plays out there will be no winners. well we don't know if these reports are true but the saudis and the israelis are moving closer and closer to one another however it's highly unlikely that the saudis or the israelis would really want to attack iran that they. would be a loser as they would be seen. obviously the iranians would retaliate the soviets were you know very vulnerable it would create an economic catastrophe for the world and that would mobilize the whole middle east especially people on the streets in
support of iran they would isolate israel after all the americans with all their firepower. failed in their attempt to bring about syria because world public opinion and american public opinion simply would not accept that. syria could be free of most of its chemical arsenal by the end of the if another country willing to take it on that's the big question looking for big ounces the ambitious deadline was set by the international chemical watchdog as part of this road map which also says that all toxic stockpiles must be destroyed by the end of next june but the biggest problem now a lack of volunteers to take on this really delicate and huge task of eliminating more than one thousand tons of highly poisonous materials norway was first to give a very firm no then a couple of days ago its refusal was mirrored by a baby which saw a series of protests against the country's been with destruction sites for syria's arsenal political analyst chris bambery spoke to us he said it should be europe's
wealthiest nations who are stepping in here to implement this ambitious elimination plan. my understanding is that they will go to france and i think it's really the onus is on britain or france in terms of the western european powers to deal with this because as i say they do have chemical weapons although we don't advertise the fact that britain and france have stockpiles of chemical weapons they do have the ability to do that the french the british have the facilities were you can dismantle these things safer. the way they have the expertise surely that's the better option has abided by this deal the west should really put its money where its mouth is here it's signed up to this deal it's sending ships in this case norwegian ships to deal with this but the norwegians claiming they don't have the expertise to dismantle it you can see why chemical weapons say they will not take them in and i think it kinds of smacks so i resent over the fact that really in the end this deal has come or actually putin brokered a deal assad signed up and no syria has abided by the agreements of it and i can't
hear but feel there's a kind of resentment in european capitals that actually the deal has worked. well even without hosting syria's chemical weapons the e.u.'s big drug deeper and deeper into the conflict intelligence chiefs believe more than a thousand young european muslims have joined the islamists in the fighting in syria right now it's thought they've been recruited through social media the counterterrorism coordinator says that you have this agenda goes further than simply toppling assad to it's actually a real threat to europe we are in the process of trying to understand better the reason why so many europeans are going to syria where we start being concerned. and that's what we understand many of the mean the joining. for you two and qaeda. groups which not only wants to work through a sad but the global jihad rhetoric and share fully the project of ok
that and therefore we think i think would see that in the future but many of them will get back in europe much more radical to me inspire order recruit order or they meet for saab even directed more to attack in europe. and underground adoption markets been exposed in the united states it's called private re home and it allows parents to get rid of their own wanted adopted kids by an online no background checks of government scrutiny means children could end up with families they would never normally legally be allowed to adopt or even end up with criminals will report has got the story. animal owners may be familiar with the term private re homey typically it refers to those seeking to give their pet away but today the practice is reportedly being used by parents looking to give away the child they adopted from overseas and no longer wants an investigation conducted by reuters
found that this type of child trafficking is happening largely in cyberspace where parents allegedly advertise their unwanted children through yahoo and facebook groups the lawless atmosphere allows internationally adopted orphans to be passed on to strangers without government scrutiny or even a paper trail as a result many of these children can end up in the custody of criminals sex offenders or abusive adults that would have never been allowed to legally adopt many of the children advertised online for private re homing range between the ages of six to fourteen and had been adopted from abroad including from countries such as russia china ethiopia and ukraine it poses huge risks right because some of the families into which these children home they're probably perfectly good and the children are doing better perhaps and some of them are not as of this year u.s. citizens are banned from adopting russian orphans since one thousand nine hundred
ninety one thousand russian children have reportedly died at the hands of their american adoptive parents reporting from new york marine upper nile r.t. . one two children pranab atones for at least once a week or two spoke to one young man who told us how his life to get to the worst when he was passed on to a new family. dimitris stewart was five years old when he and his brother were adopted from an orphanage in a small town near moscow it would be a rocky road living with his adoptive american parents didn't really feel like. i was there when he was a young teenager after years of strained relations and after his parents had biological children of their own the stewarts decided it was time to find him a new home and that's when they turned to the internet is that i go underground groups where people want to. just sort of a dog sions and. that's how dimitris parents found nicole isa in eastern advertiser
self as an aspiring mother that ran a home school to meijer found out that this was far from the truth this is a little tiny basic. doubt as they know him he's here it was clear that his new home was no home school there was any of the desk there had to do homework he didn't even make you go to school she gave me the option to go to school and then we had a biologist who did that was taken away from them from the stay so they want a law to have any more kids and that's why they're doing this underground underground thing nicole had been married to a man who was a pedophile and that she could not get a homestudy due to her finances these days private adoptions are far more common it's unclear how many of them were facilitated on the internet where it's harder to regulate the transactions between family it's after the traumatizing ordeal dimitri moved to this group home outside atlanta he feels safe with his new guardians in
this quaint home in a nice suburban neighborhood use never know who's who's going to. be out there looking for kids and there's six people out there everywhere and marietta georgia liz of all r t. stay with us we'll have more updates on the that tragedy tonight because an airport in the crash that's cost fifty lives up next the police caught on camera going too far in interrogations. there's now an all new form of humanitarian aid for the twenty first century created by members of the occupy movement this is nothing to do with hunger or
homelessness what a different key problem in the so-called first world debt the rolling jubilee project has already bought around fifteen million dollars in personal debt for americans around the country most of the financial obligations that they bought were for medical bills and now the people who had to pay these bills are free from their burdens the group claims that the secondary debt market is very cheap and they were able to buy the nearly fifteen million dollars in debt for only four hundred thousand dollars the secondary market exists because banks try to sell consistently unpaid debt to third parties for less than a nickel on the dollar right now i would be begging the rolling jubilee project to get rid of my college loans but alas this is always purchased anonymously so it's all pure luck who gets their debt purchased the important thing about this project is that they're actually doing something against an evil system instead of just blogging about it and although fifteen million dollars is a tiny tiny drop in the debt bucket it may have really saved the financial lives of many americans but that's just my opinion.
the crime is that of viola manville a seventy four year old woman found dead on the twenty ninth of november one thousand nine hundred eighty eight along this dirt track. dozens of suspects will be questioned and all will be released including frank stirling seen in this photograph. two years later detectives trained by reed reopen the case and are convinced frank is guilty. a few years earlier his brother had been sentenced to prison for raping viola manning and frank stirling is thought to have wanted revenge.