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coming up on r t get ready for the next chapter of international trade negotiators from twelve nations are gathering for talks on the t.v. of the trade deal but they're not the only ones protesters are voicing opposition to the far reaching war on the protests ahead law enforcement officials throughout the u.s. are collecting the d.n.a. of arrestees even if those people are never charged or convicted is that a good way to solve the crime or is a violation of individual privacy left the evidence ahead and on capitol hill victims of u.s. drone strikes are testifying on capitol hill seventy families told lawmakers about the horrors of drone strikes and the loved ones they've lost we'll bring you one of those tragic story later today.
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it's wednesday november twentieth five pm in washington d.c. i'm meghan lopez and you are watching on t.v. chief negotiators from all twelve countries participating in talks over the trans-pacific partnership are in salt lake city utah today the goal is to resolve differences between the countries and to come up with a formal agreement by the end of the here if it succeeds it would be the biggest trade agreement in world history australia brunei chil a canada japan malaysia mexico new zealand peru singapore the united states and vietnam are all taking part in the talks talks which have been mostly conducted in secret even congress says that it's being left out and they aren't alone where there is a gathering of world leaders there's likely to be a group of protesters and this meeting was no exception many of them are afraid that they will lose their digital freedom with any new agreement since cyber
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intellectual property is one of the areas that's covered artie's ramon go and out more. trans-pacific partnership. is an ambitious free trade agreement the u.s. is currently negotiating with eleven other countries including canada australia and japan negotiators from around the world have gathered here in salt lake city to hash out the legal details of the agreement it could have wide ranging effects on major industries including energy the internet and pharmaceuticals demonstrators from around the country have come here to meet the negotiators demanding more transparency fully loved american jobs go overseas and american wages go down you'll love the. documents have been leaked it appears that they're going to open the floodgates for more fracking. environmental and health problems for people in this country. not only democratic it's against our interests in our
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health in our democracy. our economy workers' rights and. protections many americans don't know anything about the t.p. the obama administration powerful parties involved have kept it a secret however we can leaks release the draft of one of the chapters in the agreement dealing with intellectual property critics fear that it could fundamentally change the state of the internet as we know it and restrict access to affordable medicines it is an agreement that will dramatically restrict trade in exchange in a way that will crush generic production of pharmaceuticals and raise the medical cost to the point that the world's poor will not be able to access lifesaving medicines and people are likely to die. i didn't have to be pre-negotiation will continue here in utah throughout the week and as you can see the protests will continue as well ministration would like to
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have an agreement done by the end of this year however pushed by. vocal groups could put those plans on hold in salt lake city utah. well if you've ever watched a crime movie or had the misfortune of being arrested yourself then you know how the booking process goes you have your picture taken you are fingerprinted and then you are put in a cell to await the next phase of your case but an increasing number of states are adding yet another step in that process collecting a mouth swab for d.n.a. samples now these d.n.a. samples can help local and federal law enforcement agencies solve old and future crimes however the american civil liberties union says the process is a violation of individual's privacies and they are willing to go to courts to end the practice here in california as a.c.l.u. group filed a lawsuit back in two thousand and nine on behalf of lilly haskell the woman that you're looking at she was arrested while attending
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a peace rally in san francisco she was released without being charged but her d.n.a. is now in california's system currently the case will be taken up by the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals in december meanwhile from pennsylvania is on its way to becoming the twenty ninth state to allow d.n.a. collection upon arrest to talk more in-depth about this case and the broader implications of d.n.a. collection i'm joined now by david kay a professor of law at penn state david thank you so much for joining me now what are your thoughts on this a.c.l.u. in northern california appeal the killer for new kill reason is a fairly narrow question because just this summer the u.s. supreme court decided the case in maryland and you know the maryland law which took d.n.a. from people who were arrested but not yet convicted. very interesting now i know that you are in pennsylvania right now obviously so are we as i mentioned
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pennsylvania is going to be the next state that's leaning toward these d.n.a. swabs as part of the booking process do you know the differences between pennsylvania and say california or pennsylvania and maryland. i haven't seen the latest version of the pennsylvania. look to address of servant as it was being introduced actually a previous year the pennsylvania senate had adopted it but the pennsylvania homes never approved it so it's better past again who won who sent them so then you're not the other probably you know it sounds like it's going to pierce know. the differences from the maryland law i believe would be that in maryland one could you please take the sample of d.n.a. at the moment when the person is brought to the station right to be booked to be kept but they don't earn allies that until the judge has determined that the
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individual should stand trial so there's a kind of hearing that arraignment is called to make sure there's probable cause the pennsylvania war does not require that as are the you know when i last looked at it and certainly the california law does not have very intersection and different now during the ruling for the maryland versus king. supreme court decision supreme court justice anthony kennedy issued the majority opinion saying taking and analyzing a cheek swab of the arrestees d.n.a. is like fingerprinting and photographing a legitimate police booking procedure that is reasonable under the fourth amendment in your opinion legally speaking what is the difference between saying that this material is being used for booking verses it's being used to solve crimes. well there is no question that the maryland sample unpretty in a profile as it's called develop from it was used to solve the crime that was the
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whole problem in your the whole issue in killing this guy you know i mean well mr cain was arrested for waving a shotgun around but what he was later charged with in addition to that because of the d.n.a. he was charged with a rape some years earlier of an elderly woman a very violent rape and so you know his argument was well maybe you can take it like a fingerprint maybe you can but you can't use it to you know find another totally different crime. but the supreme court allowed that on the theory that the reasons to take it to identify him as king and nobody else were enough and while they're at it the state could use it to solve crimes at least that's one reading of the opinion so they can use it that way. the maryland became opinion and whatever is written as they record says we're going to balance the individual's interests against the states and the state comes out ahead in that
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case in the california case there are some differences that the a.c.l.u. argues results in a different balance of income now according to the maryland governor's office most of the collected it d.n.a. has not resulted in any arrests or convictions but is d.n.a. connecticut election not worth it if it means they arrest a potential maurice and rape and getting them off the streets really. well that's the question you know it's the court's opinion is a little. strange in that it doesn't directly talk about that very much. there are reasons for that have to do with the intricacies of fourth amendment was that i won't bore you with but there's an important policy question which is is it worth spending the money and going through the effort and imposing on people to take their d.n.a.
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before they are convicted some of them may never be convicted. and after all if they are convicted then mistaken if the d.n.a. and check for past crimes as well so we're talking about a period between arrest and conviction in order to prepare these laws that's where they're going to have their effect and there are cases in which people have committed very serious crimes between arrest and conviction they may be out on bail or something like that and so this is. you know that that's where it comes into play and there's a debate about how valuable this is for law enforcement it's interesting in pennsylvania the state police who would run the system said that's fine we'll do this but you know what you need a legislature before you pass this has to agree to give us more money or else we can't do it we'll just have more samples and we've got plenty of samples to deal with already from crimes and from convicted offenders very interesting thank you
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for all weighing in david kay professor of law penn state. thank you. president obama's pick to six to succeed janet napolitano as secretary for the department of homeland security is one step closer to clinching the position in the senate homeland and government affairs committee approved the nomination of j. johnson this morning however a couple of republican senators are holding up his confirmation senator lindsey graham is blocking all nominees to the senate until the white house agrees to let the survivors of last year's benghazi attack in libya appear before congress also senator john mccain has vowed to prevent johnson from getting the job until he is declared what his stances when it comes to border security and immigration johnson has spent his career bouncing back and forth between the public and private sector he served as the assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york he was the general counsel for the department of the air force for bill clinton he was also the general counsel of the
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department for the defense for president obama in two thousand and eight and was then appointed as the top lawyer for the defense department before practicing law in the private sector now during president obama's term jay johnson has been viewed as a trusted adviser though not all of his opinions will line up with the president in june two thousand and eleven johnson advised the administration to end libya airstrikes warning that continued involvement beyond sixty days was a violation of the war powers act the president disagreed and continued with his plan now johnson was on the forefront of a push to end don't ask don't tell in the military he also played a key role in shaping obama administration's drone policies abroad johnson believes the drone program should not be shot in secrecy as it is right now but he does think that it is necessary he even went so far as to suggest u.s.
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citizens could be viable targets during a february two thousand. speech at yale law school critics are worried that johnson will broaden the domestic drone program if he is in fact confirmed and while we're on the topic of drones members of congress her testimony this week from people that have experienced the horrors of drone strikes first hand representatives barbara lee alan grayson and jan schakowsky hosted a congressional briefing tuesday where the group of invited a group invited a yemeni delegation to the u.s. to tell their stories there were tears there were questions and there was a demand for an end to the drone campaign our correspondent lives while brings us the story of one man who witnessed the horrors and lived to tell the tale. well you had no home for feisal then al egypt air a time of celebration quickly turned into a time of mourning we got there and we saw those loved ones who won last night what
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dancing with us and joy of the wedding being cut to pieces by dismissals in august of two thousand and twelve he returned here to his home village of hashmi are in eastern yemen for son's wedding the next day u.s. drone fired four missiles in the village killing five men among them bears a brother in law salim ben ali bear an outspoken anti al-qaeda cleric also killed his cause it while lead been a leader bear a local policeman my brother in law my my wife's brother my wife's brother saddam. and who was a. speaker and he was expecting to be killed he expected that he might be targeted and he would be targeted by al qaida instead he was killed by an american drone feisal is now part of a yemeni delegation that is bringing their personal stories directly to members of congress. would. like.
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to share with you my my my my my story of what has happened to my my family there were a translator this yemeni politician talks about the psychological effects drones have on people on the ground the entire village keeps living in constant fear waiting for the moment when it will when it will strike the death of innocent civilians has some u.s. lawmakers reevaluating the u.s. drone campaign over fears that the strikes are creating more enemies than allies one of our own diplomats used to serve in yemen says that every time we kill someone with one of these drone strikes we create fifty or sixty. more members of this hearing is organized by activist group code pink and hosted by representatives alan grayson barbara lee and jan schakowsky i think that these joint hearings have been fascinating to those of us who took an interest in them and i've learned
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a lot personally but i think that many members still ignore the issue we have yet to have any member of the republican majority show up for either of these two hearings president obama has insisted that drone strikes are a critical tool in america's counterterrorism strategy we are at war with an organization that right now would kill as many americans as they could if we did not stop them first the drone program has been shrouded in secrecy and the number of civilian deaths is unclear so much of this is classified and so we need to really have some form of public awareness the delegation is calling for an end to drone strikes in yemen but until that happens they're calling for more transparency and at the very least a recognition that the deadly strikes happened here at the capitol is wall r.t. now on the same day congress members were listening to those testimonies of these
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people another drone strike was reported in yemen witnesses told associated press reporters that three alleged al qaeda operatives were killed in the attack are to correspondent liz wahl brought us the latest on the strikes. well unfortunately we don't know too much because of the nature of the secrecy of this drone campaigns and the drone strikes the administration rarely acknowledges or never really acknowledges that they happen we do know that one happened yesterday and that the respected al qaeda militants were killed it happened in the hundred in that region in eastern yemen the same region that that the gentleman the yemeni part of the yemeni delegation that is here trying to spread the world in the word and tell his story about the death of his family members the same region where his family members are killed and that's about the extent of what we know about what happened yesterday and we just watched part of your report from that congressional hearing can you describe what the fear was like in the room how did the congress members react how did the public react yeah there were through it was hosted by three
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members of congress and they were they were concerned they were sympathetic and they were concerned you you saw that they were calling for change and wanted to make change happen is interesting though i caught up with congressman grayson after the hearing and and what he told me was that unfortunately a lot if not the this drone issue is not at the a top not at the top of the agenda for members of congress it is not even in the top one hundred list of issues that that members of congress are focused on so it doesn't appear that a it's on the top of the agenda but the hope is that with this with victims of family members here in washington pleading. congress that they are spreading awareness on the issue no less as you were collecting information for this story how hard was it for you as a journalist do we know how many drone strikes there have been in yemen or in general well that's the thing we don't know it's very hard to come by numbers and when you do find numbers a it's not that they range first of all depending on the
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organization it is because there are no official numbers so it's up to organizations to do the digging and the investigation on their own the organ to the long war journal they were able to come up with numbers based on the local news reports according to them there were twenty two strikes in yemen just this year and . down actually from forty two the year before again and these are not official numbers and it does vary from organization organization now meanwhile as you said in that report indicated those drone strikes that we know about anyway have gone down is there any indication as to why that could be happening is that just possibly a lack of reporting or well back in may if you can recall president obama gave a speech at the national defense university addressing this issue of drones and he said that he was prepared to he vowed that he was going to make changes when it comes to the drone campaign and that there was going to be
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a higher level higher standard before the white house would authorize a strike he said that for example one condition he announced was that the strike or the danger would have to be imminent instead of significant so whether or not that contributes to the decline in numbers that we're seeing we don't know again that we don't know a lot of it is speculation because it still is really shrouded in secrecy and i'm glad that you brought up that speech that he delivered back in may because he did promise that he was going to make changes have you seen those changes that he promised more transparency for these drone strikes. he did he did vowed that he was going to try to be as transparent as possible we haven't really her. heard much from the administration since then in terms of any clear policy changes the earlier this month the senate intelligence committee authorized or passed a or the committee passed a bill that they would make it so that these numbers at the figures would be
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required to be reported it's unclear though where that's going to go went ahead to a greater intelligence bill again a lot of unknowns still thank you so much for bringing us that story and the tragic stories of those yemenis thank you so much arctic correspondent liz wahl iranian officials are in geneva this week to meet with members from the united states russia china france britain and germany to discuss a deal in order to curb sanctions in exchange tehran would suspend part of its nuclear enrichment program iran has been slammed with one round of sanctions after another in the past from the u.s. and other countries in response to its uranium enrichment though it for humanly denies any attempts to build nuclear weapons diplomats are looking for new prospects of compromise now that hassan rouhani has been in power for just over one hundred days since taking over for maku dr dennis shod artie's charke enough filled us in on the latest details of these talks. well making out like you just said this
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is the permanent five of the security council plus one being germany plus iran of course meeting for a third round of negotiations we have to see that the first two rounds took place within a month of october and november of this year just recently although they did not produce any specific results this particular round taking place in geneva switzerland from starting today until friday is really the latest attempt to kind of try to find a solution to this dispute between iran and the rest of the international community of course as you rightfully sad over the last several years there's been a major standoff with iran saying that its uranium enrichment program is for peaceful purposes exclusively the west is not buying this they are fearful that it could be getting closer to building a nuclear weapon and these discussions with a new arena and president are certainly an attempt to try to reach some kind of deal to improve this whole situation now do we know what specifically is on the table during this round what kind of a deal the negotiators involved in the matter are trying to hammer out. well we
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know that this round of negotiations is completely closed to the press and we've heard that the participants the key negotiators are not really going to share many of the details until they reach some sort of agreement but the basis of course we do know that the major idea behind this potential deal to be hopefully struck soon is that tehran will halt some of the more sensitive parts of its uranium enrichment program in return the u.s. will limits and refrain some of the kind of lighten some of the existing sanctions that they have imposed on iran over the years more specifically specifically we know that potentially iran could be asked to stop producing certain concentration to convert certain existing pro stockpiles to something that the u.s. would see as less dangerous to potentially and this is been kind of a stone of contention there move some of its existing stockpiles abroad and several
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other pointers which we will end up seeing if this deal is struck and in return the u.s. would unfreeze some of the foreign bank accounts for wind and kind of lighten the sanctions around the oil exports of iran as well as some of its trade sanctions now on a saucy i know republican lawmakers would argue that the fact that iran is coming forward to negotiate proves that diplomatic sanctions are effective is there any proof that the two are correlated. well you know it's hard to see because certainly this diplomatic sanctions that have been imposed on iran over the years were kind of angering iran and they're certainly they've been hurting the country and its economy and. you know the goal of hurting iran because it was refusing to negotiate and kind of work with the west is certainly worked in a sense but when it comes to reaching a longer running solution to this dispute and major tension surrounding iran's
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uranium enrichment program certainly sanctions do not seem to have helped to thus far because now what's being considered is making them lighter so that to iran also steps forward and kind of worms its attitude towards the west. and on a stasia we know that israel has been extremely suspicious and negative about the potential deal reached with iran what is the latest that they are saying about this potential deal. well you know israel has been pretty consistent over the years and then clued in recently in terms of its attitudes towards iran and certainly no secret that israel you know assuming it's one of the countries in the middle east the only one that does have actually some kind of nuclear arsenal and that's assumed by the international community israel has been basically saying that there's no way that any type of sanctions should be relieved from iran they're saying that this is a bad deal if it's going to be reached they're saying that if anything there needs to be a much tougher approach on iran and that it's kind of getting an easy deal when it
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comes to these rounds of negotiations but also we have to say that that kind of approach will certainly not improve the situation and you know it's just sticking with the main line of thinking that they've been with over the last two years or to correspondent on a stasia channel reporting from new york well illinois became the sixteenth state to legalize same sex marriage today governor pat quinn signed a bill into law during a ceremony this afternoon the state senate voted to legalize gay marriage in february followed by the house earlier this month the law will now go into effect on june first of next year now look at this map this map shows all of the states that have legalized same sex marriage as you can see why it is also on that list hawaii is the most recent one before illinois to legalize it hawaii's law goes into effect on december second in d.c. of mayor vincent gray procyon it over at the first same sex marriage actual
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ceremony tuesday afternoon saying that it underscores the importance of this right however there are still a substantial amount of pushback from other states voters in more than twenty four states approved constitutional provisions that define marriage as between one man and one woman according to the national conference of state legislators. well for the past few weeks americans and canadians have watched and sometimes laughed and. the mayor of toronto rob ford first denied and then admitted to smoking crack cocaine on at least one occasion americans are well versed in the political scandal even with the can't scandals like richard nixon anthony wiener and even bill clinton but this is relatively new to toronto and the scandal keeps getting more interesting. but move over rob ford an american politician is back in the spotlight a u.s. congressman trey radel of florida republican a pled guilty today to possession of cocaine he is the first
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a sitting member of congress charged with a drug crime since one thousand nine hundred eighty two there were arrests happened after a dell bought three point five grams of cocaine from undercover drug enforcement agencies during an undercover sting operation the tea party congressman was sentenced to one year of supervised probation and must pay a two hundred fifty dollars fine on that on that mr minor charge he also promised to enter a rehab program and has admitted to struggling with alcoholism now an interesting side note during his time on capitol hill representative rangel has co-sponsored legislation to change the nation's mandatory minimum drug sentencing laws he also voted out of bill that calls for states to drug test people who receive food stamps so perhaps do as he say and not as he does. and finally this hour the erotic novel fifty shades of grey it made quite a splash in the literary world when it was released in two thousand and eleven by
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author eve james and it's making waves yet again however this time the controversy isn't over the racy material written between the lines but on the pages researchers at the catholic university of louvin in belgium are in chemical tests on the ten most borrowed books in public libraries and discovered that all of them tested positive for trace amounts of cocaine some of them contain bacteria but fifty shades of grey tested positive for herpes don't worry though one of the researchers says the levels found it won't have a pharmacological effect your consciousness or behavior won't change as a result of reading the tones so no you cannot contract herpes from the book and richard researchers say they are much cleaner than say. library door knobs just something to think about the next time you check out a book and that's going to do it for now for more on the stories we cover go to youtube dot com slash or to america check out our website or to dot com slash usa
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and tune in at six thirty for my documentary with larry king. i was at it and i think a society that gets i'm sick corporation going to continue to consume consume consume and the bag. all about money and i was actually sick for a politician writing the laws and what. just to read is a society. that.


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