tv Cross Talk RT December 30, 2013 6:29am-7:01am EST
come on welcome to all of the part of the year off two thousand and thirteen it will leave a mixed legacy as far as chemical weapons are concerned especially in syria where it's witnessed bold dire proliferation and prohibition all within the space of a few months to discuss based on knowledge joined by aftermath of them do director general of the organisation want to prod vision of chemical weapons mr isn't just thank you very much for taking part in the program. thank you very much separator now you call two thousand and thirteen a truly historical hero here that saw the office of w. embark on probably the biggest challenge in its history trying to eliminate syria's
chemical weapons in the midst of an active war but i wonder how much progress has been achieved so far. the progress has been cost says it will. several categories of chemical weapons have already been destroyed and chemical weapons production facilities have been rendered to unusable you know very short time all chemical weapons were identified prepared for transport to. syria so now we are entering into a new phase but so far the progress has been very significant and now despite these successes that you just mentioned the dad lines with the removal of category one agents the most hazardous mr materials supposed to be removed from syria by the end of this year that deadline is going to be missed i wonder whose responsibility do you think that is. actually for me the deadline
of destruction of the nation of first syrian chemical weapons is at the end of june two thousand and fourteen and they have been each immediately that lies or timelines which have been very ambitious and one of them as you said was the transportation of category one prior to our chemical weapons our side of syria by the end of the year which will not happen there were several reasons for that technical mostly. weather condition is. the disrupt the transport ation of necessary. equipment and meth to you the russian federation as well as others of the other cost of the process of the united states and the united nations have been very active in the past weeks in delivering the necessary equipment for transport. now most of the equipment made a little and we expect to see you know authorities take action soon so i wouldn't blame anyone for that distillate so there were some objective reasons for the.
those delays now you just mentioned that we're expecting the syrian authorities to take the action soon but i wonder how soon that could be the thing that very dangerous very risky process of transporting those chemical materials from damascus to latakia could be completed in time for the geneva conference which is expected next month. actually i'm not in a position to give a new timeframe for this phase. the security striation on the ground is very challenging and is so we have this iraq tortillas i sure will take to mr measures in order to carry out this phase you know some which way but the circumstances of course are there and we hope that they will be new de lay's now we already mentioned these plans of transporting those chemical agents to
lattakia where they're supposed to be. loaded on to say and. i know that the e.u. wouldn't want to give too many details about when and how for the fear of endangering that whole mission but i wonder why this plan was publicized in the first place because some would argue that it would have been wiser to proceed quietly without tipping off you know those forces who may be interested in sabotaging the whole process. actually there was no plan to publicize it but the plans of course will have to be submitted to our decision making by these as you know that mark norway are generous to contribute to transport patients of chemical. weapons outside of syria and the necessary measures are being taken there was a very recent meeting in moscow on the security of the russian federation the chinese
authorities as well as they're concerned authorities including the joint commission to present this as well this or pieces that when europe said to the world of their so i'm glad that there was a very positive outcome. of this meeting which took place three days ago in in moscow i think the security measures will be. and i am not worried about them now you mentioned the security issues and despite some logistical challenges security is obviously the main challenge as far as these convoy from damascus to lattakia is concerned that a couple of weeks ago western powers flatly refused to provide the syrian government with the military equipment to protect that convoy from their tags by the rebel forces i wonder if there has been any progress on that front who will be ensuring the security of that convoy. in the transportation they're all transportation into syria is the responsibility of the
syrian government the syrian authorities they will have to take the necessary security measures and day they will be responsible of the safety and security of transport they should face of course if the syrian authorities have requested some assistance and the russian federation and contributing states parties have provided you know a lot of logistics support and provide this some equipment and financial support to so i hope that this support will be you could see what ortiz will have to make also an effort in this respect and now as far as i understand your inspectors on the ground are not planning to accompany these convoy your role it will delimited you verify in the loading process in damascus and the offloading in law taqiyya and i wonder why not because obviously some members of the international community. distrust the assad government very much so why not go all the way in verifying be
compliance of the syrian regime. you know our we have very strict rules off with that we have been applying over the years old plus sixteen years and our experts have determined that the. on sites where the chemical weapons will be a lot to two on trucks as well as some verification you know mechanism in place in that taqiyya before loading on the ships would be adequate and that's what we have to do but do you think that will allow us to avoid questions in the past about how tense parent the syrian government was because surely some of its critics or some of its enemies could i live in the future that you know along that the road some of the materials may have disappeared somewhere are you ready to guarantee here that you know that that cargo that hazardous cargo will be intact as it moves from
damascus to let. it's not the responsibility of two pieces that would you you've to go down to the security of the transportation as i said earlier so what we are going to do respect is will have already made an inventory of the chemical weapons in syria they will wait for before they are loaded on trucks in sites. you know and store sites and they will. upon their arrival to attack here they will compare them and i'm sure that. this it will be will be sufficient so as to the security of this transport ation phrase it will be the sole of the response waist of the syrian authorities now mr isn't to my next question maybe not very politically correct but i would like to ask it anyway you mentioned that so far you've been satisfied with how this whole process has
been going in the corp of the you have received from the syrian authorities and your organization was celebrated for do. doing this very risky job in syria less than a month ago you received the nobel peace prize and i think the awarding of with was at least partially connected to the mission in syria but what i think escapes global attention is that much of the job the most dangerous part of the job is actually being done not by your going to zation but by the syrians themselves the syrians who work for the so-called assad regime and. you know you are there only to verify that very difficult. difficult mission and your stuff as you just pointed out does not take part in all the dangerous missions so my question to you is whether you're ready to share some of the credit for the success of this mission with the syrian authorities. actually the nobel
peace prize in fact was a war to my organization a as it was announced by the committee itself was because of the. over the past sixteen years in the field of disarmament and it was a this as we understand that the syrian mission most challenging mission in fact in the history of the organization the stakes taking place right now i think we're going to mean for you as well as probably the absolutely it's a major encouragement major incentive for our stuff in fact you are especially working now in syria and you know in very challenging circumstances when the price was a war that in october in fact only one talks october we had two twenty six inspectors and a number of u.n. stuff as well who were based in damascus and who were going to decide it's the storage sites in very difficult circumstances and they had completed this phase
three days earlier than it was in fact determent is so i believe that they have done a great job in a very difficult security environment which was persistent to in the history of europe's that would you certainly but even in u.n. standards it's seen the most challenging operation in the history of the united nations so that's something we should be recognised yeah absolutely but i wonder if we also have to recognize the afterwards. so far taken by the theory and authorities because after all you are verifying the work that they're actually doing said did they deserve any credit for the work that has been done so far. i have. stated on several occasions that the cooperation of the syrian government has been satisfactory and they are satisfactory fulfilling their obligations to. from the commission and our job effect as your piece that we used to verify the
complaints of the syrian government in this respect ok if i could ask you about the opposite side would it be fair to say that the main unknown factor the main factor that me in danger of these very risky operation is actually this rat posed by the syrian rebels. the syrian opposition we don't have direct contacts with the syrian opposition it's the united nations which is doing this infected using different channels we have us to affect the un as well as myself their cooperation and their support during this process of elimination of syrian chemical weapons i believe that it's in the interest of everyone including the opposition and we hope that they will. they will be co-operative a support as well mr is and you have being very diplomatic in your responses but if you said earlier that the syrian government has all for the full cooperation we
also know that a number of countries have contributed that equipment there is a trust fund set up to finance this whole process so the only outstanding issue is the issue of security now and the security of the only party that is in danger in that security seems to be the syrian opposition am i exaggerating. actually everyone recognizes that the security situation in syria is an important factor which may disrupt the in fact the whole process. but as i said earlier the security measures will have to be taken by the syrian government and we are also expecting that the opposition will be corporate to be in this process now i understand that the o.p.c. w. is doing its best to stay above politics and it's clear in the your responses but
we can't escape the fact that the presence of your inspectors on the ground is the result of a political deal that was reached between russia and the united states and given how much both of these nations have at stake in the syrian conflict i wonder if either of them have tried to interfere politically with your work on the ground. actually as we all know the whole process in fact has begun. the agreement reached between the russian federation and the united states in geneva and they're doing co-sponsors of the whole process and their contributions are you for a very substantial and the russian federation also is playing a facilitating role in this process through its style look with the syrian government which very high they appreciate and i think they have to continue to play this major role in the whole process which has been very useful and they
should they should remain fully engaged fully engaged but not politically you haven't directly answered my question there bear their poll tickly engaged of course both here in the hague you know getting out their liberations both countries are facilitating the decision making in the. making organs here in the opus that would you but they're also politically engaged in new york so within the security council and i think their contributions have been considerable well i they have they've been politically engaged for almost three years but so far that talks political talks lad nowhere. as far as any lasting peace settlement in syria is concerned i wonder if you if the mission as they strategic mission. by your going to station is successful and if indeed syria is free of chemical weapons by the middle or by the ad of next year do you think it may have
any bearing on the political discussions could it lead to any sort of. change on the ground political change on the ground. this excess off this process of elimination of syrian chemical weapons can only have an positive impact on in fact on the efforts you search for a poll to so lucian regarding the overall problem in syria so if the geneva conference geneva two conference is going to take place on twenty second of january . i think we should we would all welcome. and they the international community in fact hopefully can build on this concept says on this agreement among the actors of the major players of the international community with regard chemical weapons in order to address why the problems in is syria so that's extremely important i think
this was a successful you know process so far and i'm sure it will be successful in the end and the international community as well as the you know syrian government and the opposition should seize the opportunity to build on this concept you just mentioned the international community and one of the reasons why the international community hasn't been able to do anything on the syrian issue is because of very different interpretations of that conflict that various parties had some of them believe that it was a genuine democratic uprising other parties like russia for example believe that terrorism played a major role in this whole conflict from the very beginning now given the logistical and security issues that we discussed previously do you think the international community has changed its understanding of what is actually happening in syria as a result of your own mission do you think it is now maybe you differently what
represents the biggest rap in that country. actually your question goes a little beyond my mandate you know we are dealing with the limits there you know for the nation of syrian chemical weapons but i think the fact that the international community could get together and reach an agreement on the elimination of chemical weapons is and it very important development a breakthrough should be welcomed by everyone and. i believe that to the call meaning of this gene about to conference and we have to keep the momentum the its racial community should keep the momentum and effective sit around the table and discuss the issues that you just mentioned a agree on the on the concepts as well as on the overall that approach to the wider problem in syria mr is i'm sure i already mentioned that you are being very
diplomatic in your answers and that's probably because before joining the international organization you also work long years in their turkish diplomatic service and i believe at one point he even served as a consul in the cd awful lot and turkey is of course a country that played a very controversial role in this whole thing syria and the ferrous i would argue that without turkey opening its borders to the rabble. the war may have never asked elated to that point but what i would like to ask you is how challenging do you find separating your current duties from the of previous experience as a turkish diplomat. actually i have served in the church foreign policy foreign service for thirty four years in the past and. seen many positions at this where this previously and other positions but since i
was elected as the director general of this organization and since i took over in july two thousand and ten. for the past three and a half years. i have an international you know civil servant and i am a constable to the whole membership i don't represent any particle country including my native country turkey therefore i have to be impartial neutral which i am i have no doubt about that but i wonder if your previous professional experience helps you in any way because you mentioned that the open c.w. doesn't maintain official ties with the syrian opposition but surely as as a former consul you would have a lot of connections in the north of syria do you use them to well probably facilitate safe passage for your own people on the ground there. actually is spin quite a long time ago now of thirty churchy actually turkey years more than thirty years that i certain know they pull but i have made to several public statements and. to
the opposition we don't need any direct contact with them that they should be cooperative and supportive of the process now in addition to serving as the consul in aleppo you also served as ambassador to israel and israel is obviously a very important party in this hall. process because for a long time syrian chemical weapons were considered added turn to israel's also and declared chemical and potentially even nuclear weapons now that syria is desiring whether you think it believes israel. actually it is one of fifty six countries which have not yet joint chemical weapons commission along with egypt and forty four others i made to both you know the story my nobel peace prize lecture as well as in other public statements that those six centuries in fact they should treat cos their position and join the chemical weapons commission as early as
possible i see no reason in fact to link this issue with the other issues and i'm sure that the those governments will will do it and there are some countries which may do it earlier than others but i would certainly welcome that to all of them joined the peace that we as are disposable speaking about is specifically israel i heard you make that statement calling on israel to join the chemical weapons convention previously and but i wonder how realistically how possible that really is because israeli officials on a number of occasions sad that they're ready to consider this issue only when there is peace in the middle east which by now seems to be a rather. tall p. and so do you think your and your calls for israel to join the convention have any chance of actually being heard. i'm sure they hear it but
we have to acknowledge that the joining a treaty and organization is a sort of decision by so in countries so they dispute up to the syrian government such as seasonal nut but in the circumstances especially after syria membership to the o.p.c. that when you i think there is a new strain in the region and i'm sure that the israeli government is taking to see into account and i hope that both israel as well as egypt and other countries will review their position and mr isn't finally very quickly if i may i ask you you mentioned that there are six countries including israel that remain outside becoming a weapons convention and that you hold that they will join the convention soon or later do you think that's going to happen while you are still our director general of the opposition w i hope so i'll do my best metal you as this so my mandate has been renewed treasonously so i'm going to stay in as
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