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i don't understand all the more. nato. things are. tough talking on ukraine the russian foreign minister is in london to find a way out of a diplomatic impasse with the west over crimea is push for self-determination. the referendum on self-determination self-determination broad to speak their language to remember on future. would be you as dismissing the legitimacy of the referendum in crimea would take a look at some other territories striving for independence which actually did get sound of approval. also street violence in girls ukraine's eastern city of donetsk as protesters defying the new leadership in kiev clashed with a rival rally of mine down supports a. hundred other headlines american lawmakers are seeking just slap
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sanctions on venezuela told by golly protests that have left twenty eight people dead. plus british prime minister david cameron goes on a charm offensive on social media resorting to paying for more lives on facebook. hello and welcome to our international. our top story now. just two days before the crucial referendum in crimea russia and the united states are in face to face talks trying to ease their standoff let's now cross live. she is in london for us with the meeting is taking place right now hi there poorly so quite
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a gulf between them at the moment given all the threats russia has been receiving in recent weeks tell us more. of these meetings are a last ditch attempt for the u.s. the u.k. and russia to come to some sort of agreement over the crisis in ukraine russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov has already had a meeting with william hague this morning his u.k. counterpart and he's currently in the u.s. ambassador's residence talking with john kerry now i expect that the u.s. diplomats in that meeting are going to be trying to persuade russia to not recognize the results of the referendum that's pencilled that's set to take place in crimea on sunday if russia does recognize that referendum will then the u.s. and the e.u. have threatened to impose sanctions that would take effect on monday now so gay lavrov i expect is going to be reiterating moscow's position which is that it's up
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to the people of crimea to decide their future and the notion of self-determination is definitely something that the u.s. and the e.u. have been keen to get behind in the past. you don't have to look back far to see how the us and their western partners have back times encouraged referendums and secessionist splits the referendum on self-determination so. to speak why would it be recognized by more nations around the world. to amend their own future must take place. like when kosovo voted to carve itself out of serbia in two thousand and eight this is what the birth of a nation looks like. thirty year old third year over robert byrd proved that. in fact the u.s. backed course of those independence two years before the un judged it was legal and in doing so set the precedent. then after
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a long and bloody conflict in sudan a referendum so half the country break away in two thousand and eleven to create the world's newest country south sudan the realisation of this historic day is a testament to turns out for its of the people of south sudan in the search for peace the us set up its embassy in the new capital of juba that very same day. just last year off the coast of argentina the people of the vocal and islands voted overwhelmingly to remain british here's david cameron consoling the argentinian president i want to raise it specifically with the argentine president and say it's important that everyone pays attention to this referendum so that was the right thing to do. again in britain over three hundred years of union could all end this september scotland's being allowed to vote on whether to leave the union the prime minister says it's up to scots to decide their future.
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yet for all the talk of self-determination crimea's referendum has been denounced as illegal by the g seven group of the world's biggest economies the us has sent fighter jet. it's close to russia deploying them in poland and lithuania it's also preparing sanctions along with the e.u. so when it comes to self-determination or territorial integrity your guess is as good as anybody's in predicting which way international powers will side the biggest clue is whether it fits their own interests. r.t. london. and in about ninety minutes time john kerry and sergey lavrov are expected to brave the pres on their meeting well we'll bring you that live meanwhile many fear that any compromise and crimea is being held by by the west stands on the referendum that's the view of former french foreign ministry counsel allan cortez.
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the european union accepted course of all but it's against the referendum in ukraine the situation in ukraine is not discussed seriously is discussed in antagonistic way by presented to absolutely different versions of what's happening and seems a european countries aren't even trying to find a compromise for both sides in this conflict the facts are being falsified they don't want to accept that nazi groups came to power in the ukraine they say they are democrats but it's all russian propaganda. the german chancellor has dismissed the parallels a been drawn between the referendum in crimea and the you know declaration of independence and calls about uncle a medical statement triggered criticism within the german parliament where the left party members lashing out at europe's handling of the crisis let's listen in. so you. can't just quit kosovo they opened a pandora's box what's allowed for kosovo you should also allow for others i told
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you this but you haven't listen to me winning the cold war has eclipsed everything for you you forgot about everything else the basques are asking why can't they make their choice whether they want to stay within spain or not catalonians are asking why can't they decide whether they want to belong to spain or not of course people living in crimea are asking the same thing i think that crimea breaking away from ukraine is just the same as kosovo i knew putin would use this argument and he did its. job in this business of letting you know what has led to the tensions in crimea and ukraine the problem is that the current be korean government came to power thanks to support from western powers which have been actively involved in the events in ukraine and there are members of the fascist and a semitic part is the border in this government i believe this will be a never ending scandal. what chancellor merkel has also warned russia
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of a massive damage if it continues to support the referendum in crimea but it appears has stars does not have the backing of the german public as he has been finding out . certain they should solve it by themselves i don't think germany should get involved. you think so and i think the sanctions against russia will be like a berlin wall between the east and the west all over again and i'm against that as an answer doesn't so i think sanctions will harm both russia and europe maybe they should discuss it behind the curtain first give diplomacy a chance before slamming the door that's. good it is obvious that ukraine belongs to europe just like the western part of russia lives territorially in europe and that has nothing to do with the e.u. or nato those are different things but. there's a shared sense so i don't think sanctions are a good idea they should see down at the table and talk it out at the
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u.n. security council russia has been defending crimea is a right to self-determination against a bar of criticism russian envoy batali trick and stress that moscow is against any escalation of the crisis in ukraine and again called for an investigation into the deadly violence that brought the opposition to power in kiev marina port now has the story from the u.n. headquarters in new york for us. the u.s. and many european envoys use their platform within the council chambers to accuse russia of building up its military aggression within ukraine president putin asked for and received authorization from the federation council to use military force in crimea and today there are reportedly more than twenty thousand russian troops in the region against the express wishes of the ukrainian government russian military forces have taken control of a large part of the so when territory of ukraine and russia tramples on the values
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that led to the creation of the european union that were designed to overcome the cycle of invasions old patients and territorial claims when it comes to russia's military presence within crimea moscow says it is not violating any laws everything is within its jurisdiction because as we've been reporting russia has an agreement with ukraine that allows for up to twenty five thousand russian troops in crimea in the meantime the u.s. has announced that it is circulating a draft resolution seeking to. ukraine's sovereignty and unity it calls on member states not to recognize the results of the referendum scheduled to be held in crimea on sunday now russia maintains that it has been biding by international law it is not interfering or instigating any action in crimea the russian ambassador to
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the u.n. but charlie churkin says that the security council of the u.n. usually condemns the violent overthrow of an elected leader but he says in the case of ukraine that is not being done what do you have in kiev is a government of the victors a number of key posts there including the minister of defense have been assigned to the members of the radical nationalists aboard a party in december two thousand and twelve the european parliament passed a resolution that denounced the. borders uses racist anti-semitic and xenophobic it also stated that there are counter to the fundamental principles and values of the european union and called on the pro democratic parties within the ukrainian parliament to avoid entry any coalitions with the border so why have their european values gone now so. ambassador churkin also question the sincerity of many western ambassadors when it came to self-determination. in eastern ukraine political differences have spilled causing street violence in the city over ten years.
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those rallying in support of the new leadership in kiev clash with pro russian protesters one man was fatally stabbed as a result the russian foreign ministry has released a statement accusing far right groups of attacking peaceful demonstrators and a leader of the local so-called self-defense squads things the chaos in the city was deliberately planned. probably cation one program an activist were forced to respond to the violence directed at them on the eve of the rally there were calls for action to be taken against them on approach a facebook page it's organizers called for the ultra nationalist fans of the local football club to come to the protest with baseball bats and i room broad's those who are giving orders in kiev just don't understand that the people of the scar on the edge we are so upset with the key of havoc the nationalist fighters will welcome to power given weapons put into the government and now all that has come to
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our doorstep and the people are infuriated. and for a closer look into the deep divisions within ukrainian society head to our website dot com where we explain why did maturity in crimea reject the south appointed me to. carry away in a couple of minutes the european parliament is accused of such precise in the environment for the sake of short term profit. as you lawmakers have decided not to impose tough checks on the show for a move that's if you're a to the green ox that fast and plenty more still to come on the problem. i think that individual countries within the european union must i think losing that idea came from the way for the sake of favor of
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a european foreign policy i've made that abundantly clear over many many years they have to look at the situation the relation to the gulf course of a i could give you a list and this list of failures by the european union it is just simply a complete mess and i don't think the. capable of achieving the fall of the sea and i think that individual countries can still and should go up. each. and to aim for peace and stability. in the secret lover touring kirby was able to build the world's most sophisticated robot which on foot it really doesn't give a darn about anything james mission to teach creation and why you should care about humans in great this is why you should care watch only on the algae dot com.
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welcome back sanity international the british prime minister has unwittingly become a sensational twitter it all began when david cameron posted a photo of himself frogging a slightly while speaking to barack obama about ukraine the image went viral with celebrities including patrick stewart and rob delaney coming out with that own parodies all of the cameron imitators jokingly express their eagerness to discuss the ukrainian crisis with the pm and it's not the only p.r. stunt that's backfired on him in the past few days as far as reports. we reported that conservative party strategists have paid for facebook as the time for the prime minister's page on facebook in a bid to generate clicks and likes on his facebook page now facebook won't comment on that report but if you look at the results it seems that if that's indeed what's
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happened well it's certainly been working just a month ago and the prime minister's page was about twenty thousand likes behind the prime minister nick clegg space page now he's well out in front again with more than one hundred thirty thousand likes david cameron's team the conservative party are trying to pay for advertising to get more lights on facebook what do we think about that good thing bad thing. it's not delivered just for. you for some people like you. because if you like the page you know that people know what paying for advertising which generally clicks on to the pay. just looks a bit weird but it's not a good thing it just comes across as kind of like it's misleading in terms of like its popularity. or hard to the page. even though you think it's very good i think it's ok. but night.
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thank you very much that's a good thing or a bad thing. to do just keeping up with the times those people do these days if they want to get the first results to be like facebook you know but it's important to remember that the social media popularity of the party leaders isn't necessarily reflected in the polling results and whilst the prime minister certainly had his social media in the past and it's fair to say we'll probably have a few more to come in the future what all the party leaders will really be looking for is come twenty fifty whether those social media likes can be. into but sara for the london. and the only line for you right now appropriate a senior foreign op at the top of a finger users can get behind a boycott of israeli goods to find out how that works had to concede often. and
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also that while unmanned u.s. errol's tries come under global scrutiny the pentagon is now raising extra funds for underwater drones more details on the dot com. boom in children continues to be knowingly most women use is what. martin luther king said i have a dream obama is today to me i have to draw. the drawings have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties. for the most part they have been very precise six it's like. this small body on the ground is a little girl and just next to her is a little boy of eight. we do some of her service. which was
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a complete treat afghanistan's only one that i can confirm that we are operating him in. afghanistan is the only other country like. afghanistan still country. this is all seem to national welcome back the u.s. congress is urging president obama to impose economic sanctions on venezuela this this comes amid unrest that's left twenty eight people dead in the south american country with washington going to mean the chrono down on antigovernment protests but caracas is defending the actions of its security stop claiming it for. he says a u.s. backed coup attempt scores of venezuelan protesters had been shot dead by unidentified gunmen which president maduro says were far right ryan says working with support from washington my colleague bill don't spike with the news a lot of analysts greggory hope that the things the government has good cause to be
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suspicious. i don't think there's any chance that the government will be overthrown by these protests or anything like that but certainly the u.s. government is supporting the opposition by both financially and by giving it moral support and encouragement and just recently the u.s. senate is passing a resolution that would freeze assets. going to sort of government officials so this is kind of things that only encourages the opposition i think it contributes to a large extent why the protests have been don't die down yet. these anti-government protests as they claim that police brutality has been involved saying that the government being responsible for the latest killings there are reports of slappers being used by the opposition so have the. government leaders said anything about that. no i haven't seen any really any response from the opposition about the government's counter accusations. the fact is that something like fourteen police
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officials are has been arrested and are being investigated for using excessive force so i mean this shows that the government is concerned about that issue and is trying to prevent it that kind of excessive force and just in time we know if you go through the list of people who have been killed so far and wounded in these protests there are by and large people who were wounded and killed by. their own opposition forces and not by. the police forces are very very small minority are directly attributable to the police force. roundup now what else is happening around the world officials the southern afghanistan say a roadside explosion has killed six civilians including two women and two children the blast ripped through a vehicle on a road often used by military convoys it's not clear who was behind that sign taliban militants have threatened more violence ahead of the country's presidential
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election next month. and identified militants in gaza have fired rockets into israel drawing air strikes in retaliation that's despite a truce called by the palestinian group islamic jihad the last three days of cross border attacks have been the most intense since november twentieth on wednesday a by raj of sixty two rockets were fired by islamic jihad in retaliation for israel killing three of its fighters israel responded with as strikes and timed fire targeting militant hideouts inside gaza. in northwest pakistan nine people have been killed in a bomb blast at a filling station at least thirty seven bystanders were injured in that in the shower which appears to have targeted a police vehicle this comes despite government efforts to engage the pakistani taliban in peace talks. crowds have taken to the streets of some power to protest anti.
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lets me do just again crowd have taken to the streets of san paolo to protest against overspending on the upcoming food world cup demonstrators say billions of dollars have been wasted on stadiums leaving a huge budget shortfall that's impacting key public services including health care and education that follows numerous protests in brazil's main cities over the past few months most of which have passed peacefully. the european parliament has passed legislation exempting shale gas exploration from key environmental checks campaign is in the u.k. are calling for the creation of fracking freezers to protect landscape and inhabitants from the industry's harmful effect of peas in strasburg voted for more rigorous rules on exporting environmental impact of oil and gas exploration but
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they left out of the. a lot big groups in britain and poland who see the technique as a way to lower an inch equals the fracking process can potentially cause tremors while they radiate actually waste left and polluted ground water and soil green party member john lambert says these are hazardous consequences that can't be ignored any longer. unfortunately agreement we managed to get from parliament with the member state governments leaves out that compulsory element it's still very much up to the individual member state how they're going to do that and we think that that's a real error environmental impact assessments are necessary for shell gas so that you really are looking up one of the geological circumstances what do you think of the potential outcomes that you're really evaluating that before anything goes ahead and so we think that in the revision of the legislation we've got this week we haven't really gone far enough on this we haven't really secured this element of
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scrutiny for show us. your maybe sweetening care with promises of money to bring the rubbish economy bank to live but the member states have plenty of problems of their own up next you know in our scheme to national sophie shevardnadze discusses this with british conservative m.p. bill cash stay with us. sarah palin caused quite a stir at the recent twenty fourteen conservative political action conference and her now famous infamous quote about how to deal with russia is flying all over the internet to both cheers and jeers she said the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke to be fair people are taking this quote a bit out of context to saying that in terms of her fears that obama is disarming
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the country's nuclear arsenal and well from what we've seen having a big batch of dukes sure keeps the interventions out of your country or but her belief that obama is disarming the u.s. is madness there's absolutely no evidence that obama has even put a dent into the military industrial complex also using the term bad guys and saying there are bad countries with bad people in them who just want to do bad things this is the level of intellectual discourse of a kindergarten class russians just bad her childlike view of the world also applies to violence because she talked about conveying threats to putin so what do these thoughts even mean do you want to war with russia a nuclear war pale in threat is the worst type of chickenhawk garbage and what is even worse is that there are millions of people out there who buy into the simplistic moronic let's nuke the bad guys more war rhetoric but that's just my opinion.
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ukraine fascists have come to our land it's a threat to russians. crimea is a small republic and russia is a huge country and defend us. the long came to an end twenty three small if cocktail was known and our guys are still there defending the law and order and we believe that a. grammy has never surrendered to anyone and it never will.
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well welcome to sophie shevardnadze now while the crisis in post-revolutionary ukraine is grabbing the headlines for calling care from the brink of death toll now lives with heroes but doesn't you have bigger problems on its hands and is it even the world really proclaims to be well today i talked to bill cash a conservative member of the british parliament. you entices ukrainians with the barrage of membership of the blocs who want it worried about this red tape of the rule on the like to. shoot desperate to trust the juicy bailout promises from. brussels is struggling to keep its own coffers full if the european way is the good way why do so want to step all the trillion. bill cash a conservative member of the british problem until is on our show it's great to
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have you with us today so i'm going to go ahead and start from the latest news which is ukraine obviously the eastern partnership bishan the association treaty are responsible for the current crisis in ukraine those are your words so if you elaborate on them how and why. well i'm very much in favor of political cooperation and i'm also very much in favor of trade throughout europe and of course with russia as well and throughout the world globally but the problem is that this particular set of agreements and it's the eastern partnership agreement as well as the association agreement. have in fact in my opinion been far too ambitious it would have been far better if it had been a low key operation and in fact michael lee who is with the german marshall fund the other day said that. the policy was misconceived and he said he
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was one of the architects of the policy and he went on to say and i'll just quote from it this was misconceived from the outset and i was one of the culprits in retrospect the e.u. made a number of serious mistakes it was not necessary or appropriate to present ukraine with an incredibly demanding deep and comprehensive free trade agreement now obviously people can argue about that but i think that that is the problem and my concern about the european union which we may come on to later is that it is over ambitious and create situations and i regard this as a crisis that could have been avoided if they hadn't been so ambitious i would have said that whatever the circumstances may have been when these things were first thought out first of all i think they were very ambitious but secondly looking at the situation with the with the crimea being with it and the whole with the black
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sea issue and the black sea fleet the issue of which is a matter of obvious vital national interest to russia that that issue involving these questions as well was i would have said bound to leave. to a lot of the serious questions on the parts of russia and i therefore think that the european union execute has been extremely naive and i would give further say as to be. a very unfortunate and dangerous situation but what about now mr cash ukraine needs at least thirty five billion dollars by the end of next year to stay afloat and it's on the brink of bankruptcy can the e.u. afford to follow through on its promise to help out well. the answer is no and there are serious concerns amongst my colleagues and certainly certainly amongst many of them in the house of commons about the costs of all this because they say
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when they say thirty five billion you can usually add quite a lot more and the fact is that proportionately i suspect for something of the order of fifteen billion pounds worth of that it may not be as much as that but one way or another it is a matter of concern to the british taxpayer and it ought to be of grave concern to the european union which in many respects is pretty well bankrupt but however much money you give to ukraine how much however much you can afford to give how do you control that money how can you make sure that the money you give to that country want to end up in the new elites pockets well that's a very important question it could apply to almost any country in the european union the course of all the of the european union have refused to sign off the european accounts the budget budget recounts for the last twenty one years so
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the proper probability of the money going astray is very very high there is a very bad track record in relation to the ukraine in respect of. problems of transparency and corruption that is well known and quite frankly we don't know the answer to. the question other than that the probability is that we should exercise extreme prudence and in any case i do think the money is there to pay for it your foreign minister has said that ukraine could receive assistance in exchange for commitments and reforms what kind of commitments and what does he mean what exactly are those commitments well i don't know what i do know is that. there are very big questions here i mean i'm not underestimating the importance of trying to achieve a rational and. well negotiated. to
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these problems i am not in favor of military intervention i do think that this referendum which is being proposed in the crimea is being taken in extremely short notice and is against the background of quite a lot of pressure which is be seen. by the presence of military personnel but having said that i do believe that it is extremely important that this matter is dealt with by rational and proper discussion between all the passes but all the realistic basis i can understand why russia would be concerned about the relationship between those masses in terms of security and. military questions and the and the crimea which is as i said a vital national interest in terms of the security of russia and has been for
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hundreds of years keep in mind everything you have said right now mr cash and. talking about being realistic what do you think about ukraine's aspirations to join the e.u. how realistic are they will. i think the who has become overextended i think there are far too many countries i'm very much in favor of forms of association between different countries who voluntarily want to do so on the basis that they are sovereign nation states i heard george soros on the radio this morning arguing this and i believe very strongly that it is extremely important that countries retain their independence although of course it is a very good thing for them to trade together and to cooperate but it should be a basis as i wrote a pamphlet about this in the year two thousand quoting winston churchill where he said we should be associated but not absorbed and i led the rebellion against my
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own government back in one thousand nine hundred ninety s. over the master rebellion i was the leader of the master rebellion against the conservative government although i'm a conservative member of parliament because i thought the european union was overextending itself and so it has proved to be with terrible results because it's completely dysfunctional it is in my opinion nothing like as democratic as it is claimed not this i'm claiming that other countries are as democratic as they should be i mean the ukrainian situation at the moment would appear to be based on a government which is an interim government and not elected there is much talk about the rule of law or an international law but i am afraid that i find it very difficult to. regard what is going all the moment on any side as being consistent with international law and if i may say with respect i think that the best thing that could happen would be if everybody stepped back paul's and looked at the
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situation i personally think that these agreements these association agreement should be withdrawn for the time being at any rate and that the that everybody should sit around the table russia. different. interests of the european union and the united states but you take a very deep breath seventy doesn't it doesn't seem like what there's a dangerous situation from escalating it doesn't seem like the parties involved want to stay a step back and take a look and take a break i'm sure you know about their recently are stationed between the top u.s. diplomats which openly dismiss the e.u.'s efforts in ukraine shit that you just swallow if i don't follow america's lead in matters of foreign policy well i think the individual countries within the european union must and i think lose the united kingdom fullmer own foreign policy i'm not in favor of a european foreign policy i've made that abundantly clear over many many years and
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you really have to look at the situation that's occurred in relation to the gulf iraq i could give you a list and this list of failures by the european union it is just simply a complete mess and i don't think the. capable of achieving a foreign policy and i think that individual countries can still and should cooperate. and to aim for peace and stability and this applies as much to russia as it does for that matter to any of the other countries i'm afraid that the whole aspiration of the european union a political union which is absolutely the top of the priorities of the european establishment in the elite which i oppose very vigorously indeed is the cause of so many of these problems both economic political and in terms of foreign policy and the americans are calling for serious sanctions against russia but how far can the e.u. go with this threat well i've seen the regulations in question in fact i'm going
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to a meeting today. these matters are going to be discussed and i could only say that i've seen that they have aimed at certain individuals and their economic sang. being drafted and so on and so forth but of course as george soros said only radio this morning that once you start throwing economic sanctions in one direction they have a way of coming back at you and given the fact that everyone is saying that there won't be any military intervention in the policy of those relating to in so far as if crimea is concerned and that set his to be ruled out by a foreign secretary and by many others then there is no ultimate sanction which is being proposed and therefore there would appear to be all the ingredients for an escalation of an economic war and that is actually a very very bad situation when you have economic warfare between great nations
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particularly in this global economy with contractions of the european union the implosion of the european economy. abound to end up with more and more difficult his troubles and making the situation will swallow the. plans i shall break down my chair when i come back we'll talk more to bill cash a member of the british muslims from the conservative party about wait and see remain true and then. stay with us.
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. ukrainian treasures have come to our land it's a threat to russia which. is a small republic and russia is a huge country defend us. along came tonight and when the first moment of cocktail was thrown at our guy who stood there defending the law and order we believe that he. has never surrendered to anyone and it never will.
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and we're back with bill cash a conservative member of the british parliament it's great to have you back on our show now the e.u. has recently asked london for extra funds and those funds are amounting to more than the u.k. spends on its own foreign office surely there are some benefits to that right and some of it comes back to the country through redistribution foreign trade right. yes i mean i don't regard the european union as having its own money as such i mean it's a way of interpreting interpret in the situation i mean when we get our money back we are net contributors on a massive scale and by the way it's going up dramatically thanks to tony blair and the previous government. the end should be cut back then i regard that as our money
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anyway so i don't regard them as giving us any benefit out of it falls i'm concerned it's our money and i'm very glad to get it back again. i was the person who put down the amendment to the grid for the reduction of the european budget which is accepted by the house of commons just before david cameron made his own very sensible decision to go for a reduction of the budget himself also corruption nvu is another huge problem as one official put it the scale of it is breathtaking as it also felt in london and what can be done about it well the it is breathtaking i may say that i wouldn't exonerate any country i don't know for certain but from all the reports that one gets there's also a corruption in russia and corruption in the ukraine. and then many other parts of the world it's just one of the more than. it is of more than
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a global economy the same in china and various other countries by all accounts all i can say is that it has to be dealt with the court of all the of the european union do their best we have a debate on that in the house of commons regularly every year. and i've i've in fact being on the european commission of the house of commons for thirty years now and all i can tell you is that. it hasn't been signed off as far as i'm aware for the last twenty one years so the accounts. stream me dubious and corruption is rife and i personally think this is one of the problems the european union that would be best with as we do in the house of commons through our public accounts committee which supervises all national. national accounts very well indeed but when it gets to europe it's another story
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altogether now chairman a strong us economy in here up a bearing the brunt of a string of bailouts but also calling most of the shots as well wow addict jeremy create an accidental empire out of the. extremely concerned about any one country having a predominant role within the european union we're locked into it by the treaty is through the european communities act now in seventy two i've argued against this for an extremely long time but i don't think that the consequence is this is a very large subject of majority voting and decision in the european parliament and the inadequacies of the way the european parliament functions of proper way of sustaining the kind of democracy we may need and i think that germany has a disproportionate amount of power in that context because those countries economically dependent upon germany inevitably look to germany economically and politically and i don't think that's healthy i did as i've said in germany itself
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then it's healthy for germany and i don't think it's healthy for europe as i have said on many instances study here as a failed project why and what is still tarif to the e.u. in that case well it's there is a positive message and that positive message is that there are many values or many democratic aspects of the individual member states which in combination through sensible corporation without pushing individual countries too far in a given direction without anyone dominant country. without in fact britain being relegated to the second tier of a two to your which is what is going on which is totally and utterly unacceptable and the british people by the considerable margin agree agree with what i've said over this over the many twenty odd years that there is an alternative which is both
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peaceful prosperous stable and. corrupt and transparent but he has to be based on democracy and democracy is about the votes of those people in the united kingdom as far as i'm concerned within general elections when they decide the government that they want that is the key issue and we go back to that i go back to that every single time i talk about great democracy and protecting it you've also said that the right of people to choose to las they want well be under threat in case of further here or pm integration what exactly did you mean well exactly what i've just said by majority voting which is increasing and moving into more and more areas with the lisbon treaty which i opposed and yet it is now being implemented by a government and it contains a lot of issues including increases in majority voting which deprive the british
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people of having the kind of laws that they wish to have for themselves which they choose should be allowed to choose through the elected representatives because that is the essence of what david cameron said when he said the national parliaments all the roots of all democracy but here's another thing given against all things e.u. for ages but only now you and your views are making it into the mainstream what's changed. well i think that's the recognition that it didn't work it has taken a very very long time people moose only in these masses and the establishment in the elite have the ability through the control over the the leaves of government spin and and also their contacts and the manipulation of the arguments to. create circumstances in which it's very difficult for those of us. in the. back benches to win the arguments but
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it's extraordinary how often great issues in the united kingdom in the united kingdom parliament have ultimately been decided by the by the views of those who were in the minority who have been demonstrated to have been right not with any great self-satisfaction because far as i'm concerned it's all pretty obvious and was when i started out arguing about these masses in the in the in the late one nine hundred eighty is now someone pays are saying that a scale of immigration has left britain and recognisable what some parts of the country alania to even do you share this sentiment is it in your to blame for this as well well i am very concerned about the scale of immigration you have to remember don like russia the united kingdom is a relatively small land mass unlike front of a relatively small mass and the fact is that we have
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a capacity which is being exceeded i am actually not him principle against immigration i have to say that i believe that he does a very good thing for countries to move. for people in individual countries to move from one country to another and i think it's a very healthy thing economically for that to happen but by the same token there have to be limits uncontrolled him agree. as a conservative policy david cameron to make clear is no the good idea i happen to agree with that. much of all the the great should also comes from coal wells for the forward end and that has also contributed to the benefits and disadvantages thank you very much for exists interesting conversation with bill cash a conservative member of the british parliament talking to us about whether ukraine could have its rightful place in the big european union also talk about the pros and cons of greatness membership of the e.u.
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that's it for this edition of sofia coppola see you next time. ok. the eat. eat. eat. eat eat.
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there's no more. nato. nonsense story. ukrainian fascists have come to our land it's a threat to russia which. crimea is a small republican russia is a huge country defend us. the law came to an end when the first moment of cocktail was thrown and our guys are still there defending the law and order we believe de.
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broglie has never surrendered to anyone and it never will. i wasn't a steam person. it puts everything in. letting go of those identities for me is important. part of the is protecting it's somebody they would make a brother to but then if they really knew your story. they'd kill you. there's a name for crazy how. nice to meet you my name is jim what's your name my name is geoffrey.
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. a. quite often in countries rich in natural resources are the poorest africa's a colony it's a colony of the big corporations it's a colony of someone's home leaders who are under the thumbs of the big corporations so they have to beg from the world bank's development of social programs goes to pay back debts country is drowning under the amount of debt that they should and so every year they would borrow money. and they would use that same amount of money to pay back o. debts can all that money really help. the wages of debts. that this comes from the heart you know i've never even seen him in person for me
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this is the image of a hero the world's first cosmonaut everyone knows his name but few people ever met was yuri gagarin's iconic first spaceflights the product of good fortune or destiny . was constantly fail to learn strictly he could see the ground they started throwing punches at it what that was a turning point. go to. right on the scene. first for you and i think that you're. on our reporters twitter. and instagram.
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to be in the know. on. talking on ukraine they are russian foreign minister even law. i'm going to find a way out of a diplomatic one pass with the west over crimea. the referendum on self-determination self-determination broad to speak their language to remember on future. that apparently did not apply to crimea and its push for independence from ukraine but would take a look at some other territories trying to go it alone which didn't get the west of approval. also street violence in girls ukraine's eastern city of donetsk test is defying the new leadership in kiev clash with a rival rally of my down supporters. on the other headlines american lawmakers are seeking to slap sanctions on venezuela told by ongoing projects that
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have left twenty eight people dead. and british prime minister david cameron goes on a charm offensive all social media resorting to paying for world likes on facebook . and a very warm welcome to aussie international twenty four hour news a live from moscow my name is you know our top story now and some last stage diplomacy in london the united states is furiously opposing crimea's upcoming referendum on whether to break away from ukraine most and washington are in frantic negotiations just two days before the potentially historic vote. is following the talks. well these
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meetings are last ditch attempt by the u.s. the u.k. and russia to come to some sort of agreement over the crisis in ukraine russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov has already met with his u.k. counterpart william hague and he's currently at u.s. ambassador's residence speaking with john kerry now the u.s. diplomats i'm assuming are going to be trying to persuade russia to not recognize the results of the referendum that's set to take place in crimea on sunday they've said that if moscow does recognize that referendum well then the u.s. and the e.u. could impose sanctions on russia's russian foreign minister sergey lavrov is expected to reiterate what moscow has been saying throughout this crisis which is that it's up to the people of crimea to decide their future and that notion of self-determination is definitely something that the u.s. and the u.k. have been keen to get behind in the past you don't have to look back far to see how
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the u.s. and the western partners have backed times encouraged referendums and secessionist splits the referendum on self-determination so. to speak their language to be recognized more nations around the world. to remember her own future must take place. like when costs are very voted to carve itself out of serbia in two thousand and eight this is what the birth of the nation looks like. thirty year old thirty year over robert byrd group that in fact the u.s. backed course oppose independence two years before the un judged it was legal and in doing so set the precedent. then after a long and bloody conflict ensued on the referendum so half the country break away in two thousand and eleven to create the world's newest country south sudan the realisation of this historic day is a testament to terms and fruits of the people of south sudan and the search for
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peace. the u.s. set up its embassy in the new capital of juba that very same day. just last year off the coast of argentina the people of the vocal and islands voted overwhelmingly to remain british here's david cameron consoling the argentinian president i want to raise it specifically with the argentine president and say it's important that everyone pays attention to this referendum so these the right thing to do. again in britain over three hundred years of union could all end this september scotland's being allowed to vote on whether to leave the union the prime minister says it's up to scots to decide their future. yet for all the talk of self-determination crimea's referendum has been denounced as illegal by the g seven group of the world's biggest economies the us a cent fighter jets close to russia deploying them in poland and lithuania it's
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also preparing sanctions along with the e.u. so when it comes to self-determination or territorial integrity your guess is as good as anybody's in predicting which way international powers will side the biggest clue is whether it fits their own interests poorly boyko r.t. london. and in about half an hour john kerry and sergey lavrov are expected to brief the press on the meeting well we'll bring you that live meanwhile many fear that any compromise on crimea is being held by by the west's harsh stance on the referendum that's the view of former french foreign ministry counselor alan kalter . the european union accepted course of all but it's against the referendum in ukraine the situation in ukraine is not discussed seriously is discussed in antagonistic way by presented to absolutely different versions of what's happening it seems a european countries aren't even trying to find
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a compromise from both sides in this conflict the facts are being falsified they don't want to accept that nazi groups came to power in the ukraine they say they're democrats that it's all russian propaganda. meanwhile the german chancellor has dismissed the parallels being drawn between the referendum in crimea and the you know actual declaration of independence in course about angola merkel statement triggered criticism within the german parliament where the left party members lashing out at europe's hundley the crisis. so you. just with kosovo they opened a pandora's box what's allowed for kosovo you should also allow for others i told you this but you haven't listen to me winning the cold war has eclipsed everything for you you forgot about everything else the basques are asking why can't they make their choice whether they want to stay within spain or not catalonians are asking why can't they decide whether they want to belong to spain or not of course people living in crimea are asking the same thing i think that crimea breaking away from
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ukraine is just the same as kosovo i knew putin would use this argument and he did its. job this business of the that is you know what has led to the tensions in crimea and ukraine the problem is that the current be korean government came to power thanks to support from western powers which have been actively involved in the events in ukraine and there are members of the fascist and to semitic bodies for border in this garden and i believe this will be a never ending scandal. so chancellor angela merkel has also warned russia of massive damage if it continues to support the referendum in crimea but it appears her style is does not biking the german public as he has been finding out. what is on the certain they should solve it by themselves i don't think germany should get involved. thank you do you think so and i think the sanctions against
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russia will be like a berlin wall between the east and the west all over again and i'm against that as an as a partisan so i think sanctions will harm both russia and europe maybe they should discuss it behind the curtain first give diplomacy a chance before slamming the door. it is obvious that ukraine belongs to europe just like the western part of russia lies territorially in europe and that has nothing to do with the e.u. or nato those are different things but. there's a shared sense that i don't think sanctions are a good idea they shoot see down at the table and talk it out at the u.n. security council russia has been defending crimea is right to self-determination against a by roger of criticism russia and what it's all a trick and tries that moscow is against any escalation of the crisis in ukraine and again called for an investigation into the deadly violence that brought the
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opposition to power in kiev all season worried important i have the story from the u.n. headquarters in new york for us. the u.s. and many european envoys use their platform within the council chambers to accuse russia of building up its military aggression within ukraine president putin asked for and received authorization from the federation council to use military force in crimea and today there are reportedly more than twenty thousand russian troops in the region against the express wishes of the ukrainian government russian military forces have taken control of a large part of the so when territory of ukraine. russia tramples on the values that led to the creation of the european union that were designed to overcome the cycle of invasions o two patients and territorial claims when it comes to russia's military presence within crimea moscow says it is not violating any laws
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everything is within its jurisdiction because as we've been reporting russia has an agreement with ukraine that allows for up to twenty five thousand russian troops in crimea in the meantime the u.s. has announced that it is circulating a draft resolution seeking to. ukraine's sovereignty and unity it calls on member states not to recognize the results of the referendum scheduled to be held in crimea on sunday now russia maintains that it has been biting by international law it is not interfering or instigating any action in crimea the russian ambassador to the u.n. but charlie churkin says that the security council of the u.n. usually condemns the violent overthrow of an elected leader but he says in the case of ukraine that is not being done what do you have in kiev this is a government of the victors a number of key posts there including the minister of defense have been assigned to the members of the radical nationalists aboard
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a party in december two thousand and twelve the european parliament passed a resolution that denounced the. borders uses racist anti-semitic and zina phobic it also stated that there are counter to the fundamental principles and values of the european union and called on the pro democratic parties within the ukrainian parliament to avoid and treat any coalitions with svoboda so where have their european values gone now. ambassador churkin also question the sincerity of many western ambassadors when it came to self-determination. and in eastern ukraine political differences have spilled causing street violence in the city of dunnit. those running in support of the new leadership in kiev clashed with pro russian protesters one mom was fatally stabbed as a result the russian foreign ministry has released a statement accusing far right groups of attacking peaceful demonstrators and don't
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need to obey local so-called self-defense squads things the chaos on the city was deliberately applied. to the year while it was a planned probably cation one program and activists were forced to respond to the violence directed at them on the eve of the rally there were calls for action to be taken against them on approach a facebook page it's organizers called for the ultra nationalist fans of the local football club to come to the protest with baseball bats and. those who are giving orders in kiev just don't understand that the people of the scar on the edge we are so upset with the key of havoc the nationalist fighters welcome to power given weapons put into the government and now all that has come to our doorstep and the people are infuriated. and for a closer look at the deep divisions within ukrainian society head to our website home where we explain why the majority in crimea were journalists appointed in kenya. and coming your way in just
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a couple of minutes the european parliament is accused of sacrificing the environment for the sake of short term profit. makers have decided not to impose tough tracks on shale gas fracking. eurasia the green that's. in the program after the break. ukraine's state is in the balance the regime which is a dubious legitimacy in the upcoming vote in the crimea in all likelihood puts the country's sovereignty into question indeed ukraine is being torn apart. the.
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economic downturn the find. that the new york and the rest like doing meet every. morning. now is. welcome back to aussie international the british prime minister has been waiting may become a sensational twitter it all began when david cameron posted a photo of himself frowning slightly while speaking to barack obama about hugh crane the image went viral with celebrities including patrick stewart and rob
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delaney coming out with the own party's all of the cameron imitators and jokingly express their eagerness to discuss the ukrainian crisis with the pm and it's not the only p.r. stunt that's bach find on him in the past few days as r.t. sophos reports. the reported conservative parties just just have paid for facebook as the time for the prime minister's page on facebook in a bid to generate clicks and likes on his facebook page now facebook won't comment on that report but if you look at the results it seems that if that's indeed what's happened well it's certainly been working just a month ago and the prime minister's page was about twenty thousand likes behind the prime minister nick clegg space page now he's well out in front again with more than one hundred thirty thousand likes david cameron's team the conservative party apparently paid for advertising to get more likes on facebook what do we think
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about that good thing bad thing. it's not to live with this for. you for some people like you. because if you like the page you know that people know where it's heading for advertising which january clicks on to the pay. it's just it's a bit weird but you know it's not a good thing it just comes across as kind of like it's misleading in terms of like its popularity. or hard to the page. even though you think it's a good think it's ok. but night. thank you very much that's a good thing or a bad thing. to do is keeping up with the times those people do these days if they want to get the first results to be like you know what it's important to remember that the social media popularity of the party leaders isn't necessarily reflected
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in the polling results and whilst the prime minister certainly had his social media gassed in the past and it's thirty say will probably have a few more to come in the future what all the party leaders will really be looking for is come twenty fifty whether those social media likes can be translated into the surf artsy london. and the online right now appropriate stand for our own ob. at the top of a finger phone users can get behind a boycott of israeli goods to find out how that woks had to get off home. and also that while unmanned u.s. air strikes come on the global scrutiny the pentagon is now raising extra funds for underwater drones. on a. woman and children continues to be knowingly most women use is what. martin luther king said
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i have a dream obama is today to me i have to draw. the drawings have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties. for the most part they have been very precise six it's like. this small body on the ground is a little girl and just next to her is a little boy of eight. we do some of her service also which of the countries afghanistan's only one that i can confirm that we are operating him in. afghanistan is the only other country that. afghans are still country. the u.s. congress is urging president obama to impose economic sanctions on venezuela but it
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comes amid unrest about flat twenty eight people dead in the south african country while washington condemning the crime down on antigovernment protests but caracas is defending the actions of its security stop claiming it faces a join us backed coup attempt scores of venezuelan processed have been shown dead by unidentified gunmen. bush president maduro says well if i'm right why is his wife in with support from washington and my colleague bill dots where there is a lot of analysts that were a little but i think the government has a good call with the suspicion. i don't think there's any chance that the government will be overthrown by these protests or anything like that but certainly the u.s. government is supporting the opposition by both financially and by giving it moral support and encouragement as you know so i just recently. said it is passing a resolution that would freeze assets. going to sort of government officials so
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this is kind of things that only encourages the opposition i think it contributes to a large extent why the protests have been down died down yet. these anti-government protests as they claim that police brutality has been involved saying that the government being responsible for the latest killings there are reports of slop is being used by the opposition so have the. government leaders said anything about that. no i haven't seen any were any response from the opposition about the government's counter accusations. the fact is that something like fourteen police officials are have been arrested and are being investigated for using excessive force so i mean this shows that the government is concerned about that issue and is trying to prevent it that kind of excessive force and just same time we know if you go through the list of people who have been killed so far and wounded in these protests there are by and large people who are one of them and killed by.
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their own opposition forces and not by. police forces a very small minority are directly attributable to the police force. a roundup now what else is happening around the world seventy eight egyptians have been abducted in separate incidents and believe in capital tripoli according to the egyptian foreign ministry armed gunmen carried out be kidnappings in several markets across the city it's not the first such case for start from the egyptian embassy in libya were also briefly seized january soon after one egyptian diplomat was taken. and identify and identified militants in gaza had fired rockets into israel drawing air strikes and retaliate that inspired a truce called by the palestinian group islamic jihad the last three days of cross border attacks have been the most intense as nov twentieth while on wednesday
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a by roger of sixty two rockets were fired by islamic jihad in retaliation for israel killing three of its fighters israel responded with as strikes and timed fire targeting militant hideouts inside gaza. in northwest pakistan nine people have been killed in a bomb blast at a filling station at least thirty seven bystanders were injured in that time in the shower which appears to have targeted a police vehicle this comes despite government efforts to engage the pakistani taliban in peace talks. have taken to the streets of san paolo told protest against overspending on the upcoming football world cup demonstrators say billions of dollars have been wasted on stadiums and leaving a huge budget shortfall. services including health care and education for those numerous protests and brazil's main cities over the past few months most of which are passed peacefully. the european parliament has passed
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legislation exempting shale gas exploration from key environmental checks campaign is in the u.k. are calling for the creation of fracking freeze so as to limit the long term damage caused by the industry and the peas in strasburg have voted for more rigorous rules on oil and gas exploration but they left fracking out of the list due to lobby groups in britain and poland who are promoting the technique as a way to lower energy costs the fracking process which involves drilling deep into rock formations comes with major risks including toxic leaks into soil and groundwater green party member gene lambert says these are impacts that shouldn't be underestimated. unfortunately the agreement we managed to get from parliament with the member state governments leaves out that compulsory element it's still very much up to the individual member state how they're going to do that and we
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think that that's a real or environmental impact assessments are necessary for shale gas so that you really are looking at one of the geological circumstances what do you think of the potential outcomes that you're really evaluating that before everything goes ahead and so we think that in the revision of the legislation we've got this week we haven't really gone far enough on this we haven't really secured this element of this. after next to a peaceful about his gas debate be ukrainian crisis in crosstalk.
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sarah palin caused quite a stir at the recent twenty fourteen conservative political action conference and her now famous infamous quote about how to deal with russia is flying all over the internet to both cheers and jeers she said the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke to be fair people are taking this quote a bit out of context to saying that in terms of her fears that obama is disarming the country's nuclear arsenal and with what we've seen having a big batch of nukes sure keeps the interventions out of your country oh but her belief that obama is disarming the us is madness there's absolutely no evidence that obama has even put a dent into the military industrial complex also using the term bad guys and saying there are bad countries with bad people in them who just want to do bad things this is the level of intellectual discourse of a kindergarten class russia is just bad her childlike view of the world also applies to violence because she talked about conveying threats to putin so what do these threats even mean do you want to war with russia a nuclear war pale and red is the worst type of chickenhawk garbage and what is
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even worse is that there are millions of people out there who buy into the simplistic moronic let's nuke the bad guys more war rhetoric but that's just my opinion. i marinate join me. in part and. very considerate and much. only on the bus and.
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hello and welcome to crossfire all things are considered on peter lavelle ukraine state is in the balance the regime reining in can of is of dubious legitimacy in the upcoming vote in the crimea and in all likelihood puts the country's sovereignty into question indeed ukraine is being torn apart but by whom. to cross out the crisis in ukraine i'm joined by my guest john feffer in washington he's the co-director of foreign policy in focus at the institute for policy studies also in washington we have ivan eland he is a senior fellow and director of the independent institute and here in moscow we cross to john hell of a he is a managing partner of our a group gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i very much encourage it i mean a lot if i go to you in washington you penned an article for antiwar dot com titled putin's ultimate solution for ukraine maybe the best what is that since solution
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and why is it the best well i think we have to take into consideration how this was done and i don't approve of the. you know the way that putin is done this but in the long term it seems to me that people have the right to self-determination if they if there's a legitimate vote and they. decide that they want to be part of russia or an independent. nation that's you know affiliated in somewhere with russia or even you know autonomous from the rest of ukraine i think that may be the best solution the most stable solution over time is to have the eastern part of ukraine in crimea in the south perhaps they don't want to be with the rest of ukraine or something like czech and slovak yeah jack republican slovakia. peacefully disengage from each other after the cold war was over john and in washington it
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seems. to me that that might be the solution if the current regime in care continues to be in place and it's i find it very interesting it's only been in the last few days that the type of regime as it is be finally being told to western audiences alter nationalist neo fascist with a very very ugly agenda how it got it how it's working with the u.s. government in brussels is a mystery to me go ahead john. well first i want to. disagree a little bit with ivan about referendum of course i think a referendum if it's free and fair is an excellent way of judging popular sovereignty popular self-determination but i wouldn't call what's taking place in crimea today a free and fair referendum i mean we talk about things as kangaroo courts here in the united states i would call this a kangaroo referendum it's by no means free and fair the kinds of pressure that's being put on people the atmosphere of fear in crimea today i would not call this
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the kind of situation that we had in czechoslovakia when the czech republic and slovakia am a couple decided to divorce on the question of the far right of course there is a very troubling fascist or neo fascist extreme right group groups in kiev talking about right sector we're talking about svoboda are they popular no i mean if you look at any kind of public opinion polls in ukraine today they poll very very low however i would say that their popularity has a to as a grave perfect potential of increasing in a situation that we have today with greater pressure coming from russia and ukraine ok i don't like that go ahead john i would like you know i would like to do so agree disagree about the situation and i would pray me and if it ended. what i hear from the situation on the ground reading from
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a western journalist journalist that they clearly have an anti putin anti russia i gained and they are reporting that people seem to be genuinely joyous. to be deposed. to join russia and we would have preferred random. that will show how big a percentage of the people are for. for for independence and then joining joining russia so i don't see any any problem with the legitimacy of the prefer and ok john in moscow would you say that referendum would be more legitimate than the coup that happened in kiev. absolutely not that i mean the referendum is completely legitimate the people there want to wote and let's see what will hold it what the opinion polls say that they will they will go eighty percent for joining russia i
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think they will go ninety percent the coop in kiev it is totally illegitimate undemocratic and fish is precious ok fine if i go back to you and want to do something i think it's really quite interesting is it president obama meant to the interim what they called the interim prime minister is the united states making a commitment to that government there because this is again driving events in crimea and possibly in eastern ukraine they'll say well if the americans choose this guy in this government why should we stay in this country we should vote to get out that's what's happening yes well first of all i'd like to say i agree with john in washington that this is not. i disagree with the way putin is doing this but if they referendum were fair that i think well you can have. keep going keep going go ahead john can we reply in a second go ahead well i'm not sure i'm not sure this i'm not sure this is going to be a fair referendum but we'll see but if there is a fair referendum then you know that's that's
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a different story i think and i also think that the united states should avoid a cold war confrontation over this the bottom line from my perspective this is that ukraine is not strategic to the united states it's very strategic to russia for a number of reasons and i think that as in syria it's almost as if russia supporting one side we have to support the other side and as i say i don't support the way putin has gone about this but i'm not sure that the united states should be taking such a visible support of the ukrainian the new ukrainian government ok john and what moscow do you want to reply to that go ahead this is after all yes it really. i wonder what do you think the. putin has done i don't see anything that putin has done and i see that what do you say and do you leaders have done that they have instigated a while and who. in kid and fascist.
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but i don't i don't really see you please save on. i have an answer to me what is it that putin has done well i think he's violated the sovereignty of. a country now maybe the balland resigned very good far as asked nick the state boundaries to go with the ethnic and. religious. language. of the various populations there but it's still a sovereign country and admittedly the united states has has no place to to criticize russia for doing this since it's done this multiple times itself but you know i think in today's world sovereignty is sovereignty in the in the system is set up so that we don't do that sort of thing and i don't think we should approve
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it no matter who does it and i think both powers should avoid doing this and all great powers should should. respect the sovereignty of other countries and if we want to adjust the boundaries we can do that and there is resistance among nation states to doing that obviously but i think it can be done in a peaceful manner and i still think we could have a piece of gold i think initially of this crisis and i do see the gentleman i'd like to point out to our viewers it's been big stream li peaceful in crimea ok let's keep this in mind as i note now one shot has been fired in anger ok john goodman in washington please jump in. yeah i mean the illegitimacy of what took place in kiev versus what took place in crimea let's it's true obviously there have been no shots fired in either case we've had an extraordinary case restraint on all sides which is why john john we have there is i
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have to say there is growing evidence that the snipers were in pay by the my don crowd violence you know eighty people in the shop. assistants of the there is no violence there there is a little bit as we've been stuck there was any kind of investigation into that but let's be honest here if we look at the situation in crimea we had armed gunman who went into the parliament seized control of parliament and basically already announced that there will be an independent crimea ahead of a referendum and are these self-defense forces in crimea i'm sorry but even the head of the international relations committee in the duma has admitted finally that those are russian troops that are in crimea this is a violation of sovereignty i want to be clear here i am not happy about nato expansion up to the doorstep of russia i am not happy about many things with us foreign policy but what putin has done in this case and i want to stress this is
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poutine not the russian people putin has done in this case is illegitimate ok john i got to go to you in moscow putin putin's popularity is at its highest point since he's come back to office like our viewers to know that go ahead john yeah you know first i need to go back to that. john and i have been are saying that it's wrong to for putin to violet of a country but but who violated sovereignty of country. and you have state who instigated all violent cool with men with snipers killing people. armed thugs attacking police men blocking streets taking over government buildings going over to parliament at gunpoint. and pressuring members of parliament there to vote on their agenda burning down. the hall of the
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communist party leader to show their terror that's violating the sovereignty and what putting it if you deal with. ukraine who did this the people of ukraine in kiev did this and i'd like to remind you know there's no reason if they have. no direct input at cia and in him this was cia i'm sorry no this was the people of ukraine who rose up and got rid of an illegitimate and corrupt leader it's almost all right now they're going to be in the history of the job and we're going to go to a short break we'll keep our debate going after a short break we'll continue our discussion on ukraine state.
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from countries rich in natural resources are the poorest africa's a colony it's a colony of the big corporations it's a colony of someone's home leaders who are under the thumbs of the big corporations so they have to beg from the world bank development of social programs goes to pay back debts whole country is we're drowning under the amount of debt that they should and so every.
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it's a threat to russia. is a small republic and russia is a huge country defend us. and it never will. with the.
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i was in the steam first. it puts everything in its. letting go of those identities for me is important. part of it is protecting it's somebody they would make a brother to the dentist they really knew your story. they'd kill you. this me before crazy huh. an honest nice to meet you my name is june what's your name my name is geoffrey.
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they all told me my language and all but i will only react to situations i have read the reports to the pollution and no i will leave them to the state department to comment on your latter point i come on to say it is mr k.l.a. cars are you talking to no god. no more weasel words when you vade a direct question be prepared for a change when you draw upon you should be ready for a battle freedom of speech and down to freedom to cost. we.
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welcome back across the uk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're discussing the events unfolding in ukraine. ivan eland i to go back to you in washington i think one of the interesting things here is is the legitimacy issue overall and we go from the entire country from kiev all the way to crimea i'd like to point out by the end of the program that john in washington said that you know which was illegitimate he was elected in brussels signed off on it and so did washington did he lose his moral legitimacy we probably would agree on that so ivan is this really the issue here because it's the legitimacy she issue and as i pointed out in the first part of the program is the united states and the european union going to embrace this government that is constitutionally it would why should the people in the east and south in crimea stay with that agenda because it certainly they feel threatened by it well i think you can't dismiss that they do and ukraine has been whipsawed from east and west
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and in the long term and i don't think we can do this by any sort of coercion on either side but in the long term it might be better if there were some sort of a division of ukraine but right now in the heat of the crisis of course the west is saying well putin is had this aggression and we can't we can't. you know validate that and on the other side the russians are saying well we're threatened by this new government and we have to protect russian speaking people and i think. to some extent. there needs to be a cooling of heads here and. to go. ation perhaps some sort of autonomy for for the russian speaking parts of you to ukraine or at least crimea and tell that we can sort this out in the long term when it when they're when the tempers are not so high john who living in washington how much is this have to do
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with nato expansion in your mind. you made me write a moscow it's all about nato expansion it's all about the geopolitical goals of the west and the western elite i would say. the thing is that since the fall of the soviet union there has been an. ongoing process a process to bring not a closer closer to russian border to encircle russia and now. ukraine is the last bit. of the last piece that they need to grab of course there is finland also which is still free from not about but ukraine is. is where they can and can do it and that's why they have been for mentoring this uprising that's why they have been investing billions of dollars in this campaign and that's why they have
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a close relationship with the fascist and nazi tags there and that's why they have . that's why they have no problem with. snipers might and leaders killing their own people and police so it's they are just doing this everything for the geopolitical. goal to weaken russia you know john in washington it's very interesting if you look at the terms and conditions for a country to join nato they don't they cannot have a territorial dispute with a neighbor and the whole crimea issue is that dispute would you agree this is russia putting a stop to nato expansion after they didn't promise before that it would not explain expand and now this is the russian government saying we found a way to stop you guys is a good work. well yeah as i said i think that the united states and nato
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bears some responsibility for pushing nato expansion beyond the bounds that the united states basically had promised in the immediate post-war period. as ivan said and i think is an excellent point we do have an opportunity here when cooler heads prevail to actually take another look at the security architecture in europe we had an opportunity in one nine hundred ninety one thousand nine hundred ninety two to emphasize for instance the c s c e as it became the o s c e the organization of security and cooperation in europe to put an emphasis on that it's much more inclusive organisation to kind of oversee security relations in europe and instead unfortunately nato became a much more dominant form i think that russia has a legitimate concerns when it comes to nato expansion we do have an opportunity to revisit this question of european security infrastructure or european security
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architecture as well as energy architecture so that we know we avoid the kind of cold war atmosphere that is unfortunately building right now and which will not help ukraine in the long term whole arises ukraine it forces you crane to make a choice rather than ukraine serving as a bridge as it should between europe and russia in what everything that john just said is i completely agree with completely one hundred percent but you have victoria nuland you have ben rhodes you have samantha power i mean they have nothing to do with what john just had to say why i agree with the other two. participants that nato expansion i think is one of the central problems because of course there was talk about bringing georgia and ukraine into nato which i thought was sheer folly and russia is reacting both in georgia and ukraine i think. to the nato expansion ukraine is very important for russia as we all know and you
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know it goes back to. bush's first bush's or verbal promise to mikhail gorbachev when they were. to get the uniting of germany get him do agree to that they said that nato wouldn't expand and of course it has expanded several times and right up to russia's borders and that has to be unnerving for a country that has been invaded repeatedly and had forty million dead and two world wars so i think. you have to take that russian perspective into account the nato and the west have just moved forward with their expansion both the e.u. and nato johnny in moscow i think we know it was things happen so quickly now because of what's going on in crimea and what's going on in camp but we had an agreement february twenty first there was an agreement hammered out to look could
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have avoided all of this and it was the the rioters that said no we don't want this and they are the ones that have created this new government is it possible in your mind that we can get back to five way twenty first. i said before and the western countries and their secret services they had those who have to get it to school they have those type. fascist not to groups to the forefront bot i think they have lost control as he told us schools which is when we play it when you play with fire so they are not anymore taking the dictates for puppet masters and i think. there's nothing that the western powers anymore can do to to to contain them i see that.
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prices will probably go from bad to worse john in washington you know why is the persistence of this cold war mentality certainly coming out of washington and all i'm perfectly willing to admit out of the city that i live in right now there are people that have a cold war mentality why can't we get over it. that's a tough question let me just say one thing to john in moscow about the possibility of going back to the february twenty first agreement i don't think it is possible again the parliament in kiev voted to impeach on a covert we could talk about the difference of ten votes or what's necessary part of three quarters majority but that was a decision by parliament and. eventually an election in all if you crane that will eventually make i hope legitimate fully legitimate constitutionally legitimate government the question of the cold war atmosphere again you know we have rival interests between washington and moscow and the united states unfortunately over
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a period of time after nine eleven gress of lee expanded its military spending its foreign policy and interventions overseas held on to its kind of you know polar position as the strongest superpower in the world unfortunately that has had a backlash and it's understandable that a country like russia is going to say hey you know enough is enough but there has to be compromise on this it can't just be russia saying ok we'll pull back when i states and europe also has to adopt sensually a code of conduct a post cold war code of conduct there has to me in an agreement by both sides that the cold war is over and we all have to act that way. again i have to agree with john but i guess i don't see at a policy circles in washington that anybody wants to meet russia just as being
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encircled that that's not paranoia that's a fact with nato and other bases around the world here i mean it's no wonder russia is going to react finally reacted it felt very very offended when the crowds overturn the agreement of the twenty first of february because russia didn't really particularly. i like that compromise but it was workable this is why we're getting so many tensions there's no trust right now when it comes to ukraine well i don't think i think that's exactly correct and the united states has pursued a neo containment policy in europe and also i would argue against china in the in east asia and i think these these cold war mentality has has has died very slowly if at all and probably not at all really i think we see it just replaced by. neo containment and that's that's what we know that's what has seemingly worked in when the soviet union
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collapsed and that sort of thing and so the united states keeps marching forward and saying the old. thing you know you want to get keep your enemy aspire away from from your country as you can and we've just kept marching forward more marching the line forward and that's the mentality that our defense establishment still has all right gentlemen this is been a fascinating debate and i'm glad we covered a lot of different opinions here many thanks to my guests in washington and in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember.
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tough talking owned ukraine and the russian foreign minister he's in london to find a way out of the diplomatic game pos with the west over crimea. the referendum on self-determination still determination broad to speak their language to among their own future why that apparently did not apply to crimea and its push for independence from ukraine but it would take a look at some other territories and territories trying to go it alone which did get the west of approval. also street violence in golf ukraine's eastern face he'll be done and sky sports has in the defining been you need a ship in kiev clash with a rival rally out of mind on support says. another headlines this hour on american lawmakers that is seeking to slap sanctions on venezuela we're told by
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only got a crowd that have left at least twenty eight people dead. and british prime minister david cameron goes on a charm offensive on social media resorting to paying for more on facebook. international news and comment live from moscow this is also international with me . hello and welcome to the program some laws dish diplomacy in london the united states is furiously opposing crimea's upcoming referendum on whether to break away from ukraine moscow and washington have just had another round of fronting negotiations just two days before the potentially historic vote point of boyko has
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following the talks. well these meetings are last ditch attempt by the u.s. the u.k. and russia to come to some sort of agreement over the crisis in ukraine russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov has already met with his u.k. counterpart william hague and he's currently at the u.s. ambassador's residence speaking with john kerry now the u.s. diplomats i'm assuming are going to be trying to persuade russia to not recognize the results of the referendum that's set to take place in crimea on sunday they've said that if moscow does recognize that referendum well then the u.s. and the e.u. could impose sanctions on russia's russian foreign minister sergey lavrov is expected to reiterate what moscow has been saying throughout this crisis which is that it's up to the people of crimea to decide their future and that notion of self-determination is definitely something that the u.s. and the u.k.
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have been keen to get behind in the past you don't have to look back far to see how the u.s. and their western partners have backed times encouraged referendums and secessionist splits the referendum on self-determination so. to speak their language to be recognized by more nations around the world. to remember our own future must take place. like when costs are very voted to carve itself out of serbia in two thousand and eight this is what the birth of the nation looks like. thirty year old thirty year over robert byrd proved that in fact the u.s. backed course of those independents two years before the un judged it was legal and in doing so set the precedent. then after a long and bloody conflict ensued on a referendum so half the country break away in two thousand and eleven to create the world's newest country south sudan the realisation of this historic day is
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a testament to terms and fruits of the people of south sudan and the search for peace. the u.s. set up its embassy in the new capital of juba that very same day. just last year off the coast of argentina the people of the vocal and islands voted overwhelmingly to remain british here's david cameron consoling the argentinian president i want to raise it specifically with the argentine president and say it's important that everyone pays attention to this referendum so that was the right thing to do. again in britain over three hundred years of union could all end this september scotland's being allowed to vote on whether to leave the union the prime minister says it's up to scots to decide their future. yet for all the talk of self-determination crimea's referendum has been denounced as illegal by the g seven group of the world's biggest economies the us has sent
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fighter jets close to russia deploying them in poland and lithuania it's also preparing sanctions along with the e.u. so when it comes to self-determination or territorial integrity your guess is as good as anybody's in predicting which way international powers will side the biggest clue is whether it fits better own interests. r.t. london. and john kerry and sergey lavrov are expected to brief the press on their meeting any minute now will the bring about live men while many fear that any compromise on crimea is being held by by the west's harsh stance on the referendum that's the view of formal french of foreign ministry councilor. the european union accepted kosovo but it's against their referendum on ukraine the situation in ukraine is not discussed seriously this is just an antagonistic way back presented to absolutely different versions of what's happening and seems
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a european countries aren't even trying to find a compromise for both sides in this conflict the facts are being falsified they don't want to accept that nazi groups came to power in the ukraine they say they are democrats that it's all russian propaganda. the german chancellor has dismissed their power lines being drawn between the referendum in crimea and b you know lunch or declaration of independence in kosovo ongoing medical statement triggered criticism within the german parliament with left party members lashing out at the europe's handling of the crisis. with kosovo they opened a pandora's box this is what allowed for kosovo you should also allow for others ship i told you this but you have not listened to its winning the cold war has eclipsed everything for you you forgot about everything else the basques are asking why can't they make their choice whether they want to stay within spain or not catalonians are asking why can't they decide whether they want to belong to spain
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or not because of course people living in crimea are asking the same thing i think that crimea breaking away from ukraine is just the same as kosovo i knew putin would use this argument and he did come on board. what has led to the tensions in crimea and ukraine the problem is that the current be preened government came to power thanks to support from western powers have been actively involved in the events in ukraine and there are members of the fascist and to semitic bodies for border in this column and i believe this will be an never ending scandal. here i would. chancellor merkel has also warned russia of massive damage if it continues to support the referendum in crimea but it appears her stones does not have the backing of the german public as she has been finding out. they should solve it by themselves i don't think germany should get involved. here this i think the sanctions against russia will be like
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a berlin wall between the east and the west all over again and i am against that. as an answer doesn't so i think sanctions will harm both russia and europe maybe they should discuss it behind the curtain first give diplomacy a chance before slamming the door. it is obvious that ukraine belongs to europe just like the western part of russia lies territorially in europe and that has nothing to do with the e.u. or nato those are different things but. this is this is i don't think sanctions are a good idea they should see down at the table and talk it out. meanwhile at the un security council russia has been defending crimea is right to self-determination against a barrel of criticism russian envoy vitaly churkin strides that is against any escalation of the crisis in ukraine and again called for an investigation into the deadly violence that brought the opposition to power in care of our season or in
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a partner has the story from the u.n. headquarters in new york. the u.s. and many european envoys use their platform within the council chambers to accuse russia of building up its military aggression within ukraine president putin asked for and received authorization from the federation council to use military force in crimea and today there are reportedly more than twenty thousand russian troops in the region against the express wishes of the ukrainian government russian military forces have taken control of a large part of the so when territory of ukraine. russia tramples on the values that led to the creation of the european union that were designed to overcome the cycle of invasions old patients and territorial claims when it comes to russia's military presence within crimea moscow says it is not violating any laws
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everything is within its george jurisdiction because as we've been reporting russia has an agreement with ukraine that allows for up to twenty five thousand russian troops in crimea in the meantime the u.s. has announced that it is circulating a draft resolution seeking to. ukraine's sovereignty and unity it calls on member states not to recognize the results of the referendum scheduled to be held in crimea on sunday now russia maintains that it has been biding by international law it is not interfering or instigating any action in crimea the russian ambassador to the u.n. but charlie churkin says that the security council of the u.n. usually condemns the violent overthrow of an elected leader but he says in the case of ukraine that is not being done what you have in kiev is a government of the victors and number of posts there including the minister of defense have been assigned to the members of the radical nationalists will vote on
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pardon me but it's december two thousand and twelve the youth parliament passed a resolution that denounces. his views is racism anti-semitic and. it also stated that they are counter to the fundamental principles and values of the european union and called on the pro democratic parties within the ukrainian parliament to avoid any coalitions with a lot of well which is a worry has their european values gone now. and that's where churkin also question the sincerity of many western ambassadors when it came to self-determination. in eastern ukraine political differences have spilled over causing street violence in the city have done it. those rallying in support of the new leadership in kiev clash with pro russian protesters one man was fatally stand as a result they russian foreign ministry has released a statement accusing far right groups of attacking peaceful demonstrators and the
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leader of the local self-defense cause things the chaos and the said she was deliberately planned. it was a planned provocation when progress and activists were forced to respond to the violence directed at them on the eve of the rally there were calls for action to be taken against them on approach a facebook page it's organizers called for the ultra nationalist fans of the local football club to come to the protest with baseball bats and. those who are giving orders in kiev just don't understand that the people of the near scar on the edge we are so absurd with the key of having the nationalist fighters will welcome to power given the weapons put into the government and now all that has come to our doorstep and the people are infuriated over. the leader of ukraine's far right parties to the border which now controls several government ministries and has been put on the wanted list in russia prosecutors in moscow are accusing a leg of fighting on the side of church and terrorists in the mid ninety's
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nevertheless it is receiving strong encouragement from some of the world's top diplomats including catherine ashton representing the e.u. and victoria nuland of the us that's despite tend to be box controversial past and the neo nazi rhetoric or his passing and for a closer look into the deep divisions within ukrainian society head to our web site r.t. dot com where we explain why the majority crimea were just appointed leaders in kiev . and coming your way in a couple of minutes the european parliament is accused of sacrificing the environment for the sake of. profits. did not. move in peel away to the grain.
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i think that individual countries within the european union must and i think losing . full day for all the say i'm not in favor of a european foreign policy. over many many years you'd have to look at the situation that's occurred in relation to the gulf iraq i could give you a list endless list of failures by the european union it is just simply a complete mess and i don't think. capable of achieving a full all the same and i think that individual countries can still and should cooperate. to aim for peace and stability a. secret lab or a tour. was to build a new most sophisticated. fortunately doesn't sound anything tunes mission
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to teach music creation why it should care about humans. this is why you should care only. this is also international life from moscow welcome back the british prime minister has unwittingly become a sensational twitter it all began when david cameron posted a photo of himself frowning slightly while speaking to barack obama about ukraine the image went viral with celebrities including patrick stewart and rob delaney coming out with their own parodies all of the cameron imitators drug kingly expose their eagerness to discuss the ukrainian crisis would be pm and that's not the only p.r. stunt that's backfired on him in the past few days as the summer for us reports. the reported conservative party's just just have paid for facebook as the time for
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the prime minister's page on facebook in a bid to generate clicks and likes on his facebook page now facebook won't comment on that report but if you look at the results it seems that if that's indeed what's happened well it's certainly been working just a month ago and the prime minister's page was about twenty thousand likes behind the prime minister nick clegg space page now he's well out in front again with more than one hundred thirty thousand likes david cameron's team the conservative party are trying to pay for advertising to get more likes on facebook what do we think about that good thing bad thing. it's not really were just for. you for some people like you. because if you like the page you know that you pay people with paying for advertising which january clicks on to the pay. it's just it's a bit weird but you know it's not
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a good thing it just comes across as kind of like it's misleading in terms of like its popularity. or to the page. even though you think it's very good i think it's ok. but i know. thank you very much that's a good thing or a bad thing. to do is keeping up with the times those people do these days if they want to get the first results to be like you know but it's important to remember that the social media popularity of the party leaders isn't necessarily reflected in the polling results and whilst the prime minister certainly had his social media gassed in the past and it's thirty say we'll probably have a few more to come in the future what all the party leaders will really be looking for is come twenty fifty whether they social media likes to be. into but surf odyssey london. online for you right now appropriate scene and phone up
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on the top of the face get smart phone users can get behind a boycott of his radio groups to find out how that wants to actually talk. about online while unmanned u.s. air strikes come under global scrutiny the pentagon is now raising extra funds for underwater drones. on. the moon and children continues to be knowingly close with many use is work with martin luther king said i have a dream obama is today to me i have to draw. the drawings have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties. for the most part they have been very precise six flights against. this small body on the ground is
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a little girl and just next to her is a little boy of eight. we do some of her service also which was a complete treat afghanistan's only one that i can confirm that we are operating him in. afghanistan is the only other country like. afghanistan still country. the u.s. congress is urging president obama to impose economic sanctions on venezuela that comes amid on west that's left twenty eight people dead in the south american country with washington condemning the crackdown on anti-government protests but caracas is defending the actions of its security stop claiming its place as a jew as a boxer who are ten. schools or venezuelan protesters had been shot dead by one and
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they had to find gunmen which president moderates as well farai provides his walking with support from washington my colleague bill don't spoke with him but he's a lot of analysts and gregory will not think the government has a good cause to the suspicious. i don't think there's any chance that the government will be overthrown by these protests or anything like that but certainly the u.s. government is supporting the opposition by both financially and by giving it moral support and encouragement and just recently the u.s. senate is passing a resolution that would freeze assets. going to sort of government officials so this is kind of things that only encourages the opposition i think it contributes to a large extent why the protest seven down died down yet. these anti-government protests as they claim that police brutality has been involved saying that the government being responsible for the latest killings there are reports of slop is being used
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by the opposition so having. government leaders said anything about lad no i haven't seen any really any response from the opposition about the government's counter accusations. the fact is that something like fourteen police officials are has been arrested and are being investigated for using excessive force so i mean this shows that the government is concerned about that issue and is trying to prevent it that kind of excessive force and just in time we know if you go through the list of people who've been killed so far and wounded in these protests there are by and large people who were wounded and killed by. their own opposition forces and not. by the police forces or very very small minority are directly attributable to the police force. a look now at what else is happening around the world seventy egyptians have been killed in separate incidents in the
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libyan capital tripoli according to the egyptian foreign ministry armed gunmen carried out the kidnappings in several markets across the city it's not the first such case for staff from the egyptian embassy in libya were also briefly seized in january soon after one egyptian diplomat was taken. late into fight the militants in gaza have fired rockets into israel drawing air strikes in retaliation despite of a truce called by the palestinian group islamic jihad the last three days of cross border attacks have been the most intense since november twenty twelve on wednesday a bar of sixty rockets were fired by islamic jihad in retaliation for is wrote killing three of its fighters israel responded with strikes and timed fire targeting militant hideouts inside gaza. in northwest pakistan nine people have been killed in a bomb blast at a filling station at least thirty seven bystanders were injured in that time a shower which appears to have targeted
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a police vehicle this comes despite government efforts to engage the pakistani taliban in peace talks. and crowds have taken to the streets of san paolo to protest against overspending on the upcoming football world cup demonstrators say billions of dollars have been wasted on stadiums leaving a huge budget shortfall that's impacting key public services including a house where and health care and education that follows numerous protests in brazil's main cities over the past few months most of which have passed peacefully . the european parliament has passed legislation exempting shale gas exploration from key environmental checks campaigners in the u.k. are calling for the creation of fracking free zones to limit the long term damage caused by the industry and the peas in strasburg have voted for more rigorous rules on oil and gas exploration but they left out of the list due to lobby groups in
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britain and poland who are promoting the technique as a way to lower energy costs the fracking process which involves drilling deep into rock formations comes with major risks including toxic leaks into soil and groundwater. green party member jean lundberg says these are important that shouldn't be underestimated here. unfortunately the agreement we managed to get from parliament with the member state governments leaves out that compulsory element it's still very much up to the individual member state how they're going to do that and we think that that's a real error environmental impact assessments are necessary for shale gas so that you really are looking at one of the geological circumstances what do you think of the potential outcomes that you're really evaluating that before anything goes ahead and so we think that in the revision of the legislation we've got this week we haven't really gone far enough on this we haven't really secured this element of
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scrutiny for shale gas john kerry and sergey lavrov are expected to bring the price on their talks in london any minute now we'll be bringing you that live as soon as it starts stay with r.t. . sarah palin caused quite a stir at the recent twenty fourteen conservative political action conference and her now famous infamous quote about how to deal with russia is flying all over the internet to both cheers and jeers she said the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke to be fair people are taking this quote a bit out of context she was saying that in terms of her fears that obama is disarming the country's nuclear arsenal and with what we've seen having a big batch of nukes sure keeps the interventions out of your country or blocked
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her belief that obama is disarming the u.s. is madness there's absolutely no evidence that obama has even put a dent into the military industrial complex also using the term bad guys and saying there are bad countries with bad people in them who just want to do bad things this is the level of intellectual discourse of a kindergarten class russians just bad her childlike view of the world also applies to violence because she talked about conveying threats to putin so what do these threats even mean do you want to war with russia a nuclear war pale and red is the worst type of chickenhawk garbage and what is even worse is that there are millions of people out there who buy into the simplistic moronic let's nuke the bad guys more war rhetoric but that's just my opinion.
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over there i marinate it this is boom bust and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. first up we're talking about the airline industry and now even. those who don't care much about business or ever want to know anything about business the first place they likely know that the industry of commercial air travel isn't it and also a business to be here and we'll take a look at the why it's coming right and earlier today i sat down with john malden chairman of malden economics and author of cold bread how to protect your savings from becoming crisis. we discussed the u.s. and japanese economies then you won't want to miss my interview with him it was a fun one and then we have a very i can dream to live via u.c.
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berkeley on the show dave barry and i are talking macro economics along with the history and current operations of the international monetary systems true story it's all coming up with talk of him a bit and as always edward harrison will be joining me later on in the show to talk about dr copper and the gloomy future for china scary stuff you won't want to miss a moment and it all starts right now. the airline industry has been proved to be volatile ever since it was deregulated in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight now after investing in u.s. airways in the one nine hundred eighty s. warren buffett famously said he would quote never invest in the industry again
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asked about the industry at his annual meeting last year buffett also said quote investors have ordered their money into airlines and airline manufacturers for hundreds of years with terrible results it's been a death for investors so i take it he's not a fan however in till recently things were looking up for airlines the industry is on track to report a second consecutive year of improve profitability and this is according to the international air transport association. or i eighty a demand for air cargo is also improving and expects airlines to record a profit of eighteen point seven billion dollars globally there are however some dark clouds on the horizon the u.s. had a very tough time with winter weather this year from december first through february eighteenth there were over one hundred thousand flights canceled in the u.s. and regional carrier express jet had eleven thousand six hundred fifty eight
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cancellations alone alone just just express jet now american eagle that was second hardest hit with eleven thousand two hundred thirty five canceled flights however any short term weather related losses are likely to rattle institutional investors who are more concerned about future cash flows plus the cancellations come with the positive side effect that grounded planes don't burn up fuel and with jet fuel prices expected to rise averaging about one hundred twenty four dollars a barrel every single penny counts now michael boyd of the void group says airlines could lose as much as two hundred fifty to five hundred million dollars because of bad winter weather then there is the tragic tragic disappearance of the malaysian air jetliner flight m h three seventy was carrying two hundred twenty seven passengers and twelve crew members when it vanished early saturday after departing kuala lumpur for beijing and while the malaysian air of mystery and the high cost of jet fuel aren't the only challenges facing the industry political situations
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factor in as well venezuela's decision to block the airlines from taking profits out of the country along with the ukrainian political crisis have not helped the airline business but despite itself the business of commercial air travel is still plugging along and all the recent drama it is not likely to turn vespers or travelers however with average net incomes of five dollars and sixty five cents per passenger it makes you wonder why anyone would want to be in the industry with net profit margins of just two point five percent that said two point five percent is always better than zero except maybe for warren buffett. finance growth and best selling author john malden has made it his mission mission in life to health individual investors and institutions develop
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a better understanding of what drives markets and the global economy his latest book code red how to protect your savings from becoming crisis highlights his concerns that we could face yet another crisis resulting from the choices of the world's central banks and the choices that they have made specifically to get us out of this last financial crisis now i spoke to john about the u.s. and japanese japanese economy is and i asked him what makes abbay nomic specifically the experimental fiscal and monetary policy of japanese prime minister shinzo obvious so interesting take a look at what john had to say. you have to ask yourself what do you mean by work. it's going to do precisely what could go to so i don't want to do. if you. fast forward to two thousand and twelve two thousand and thirteen and you're and you look at the problems that you have and you go oh my god what we do. and the
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only thing i think they could do. this is disasters is to monetize the debt which is what they're going to do they're going to move the. massive government get that you were just referring to which is probably going to be closer to two hundred fifty percent by the end of this year they're going to move that off the books of their banks and their pension funds and so forth and on to the balance sheet of the central bank. what it's going to do this is going to flood the world with us yet we're going to what i believe the end go to two hundred over the next five seventeen years i mean to the point that i'm closing a mortgage on this far out that i'm in right now some time finally they actually could take forever to graduate and then. and then i'm going to try and i'm going to . basically slow holding it yet using options and. because i think that. the un is going two hundred and i'm on my full intention is
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to invest a little money and to lead a. cut or doesn't pay for half my mortgage over the next seven years but that's exactly what they're kind of looking to have you do invest now well i'm not investing in japan i'm investing in i'm right behind him thanks to the yen. and the cake from their standpoint. their country is getting older and they're now all they're now at the cusp where people are actually a lot worse they're no net savers is their workers are they going to people who have. invested their money and conditions over the over the last thirty years they're now they're now at net taking it out in the biggest pension funds. but the government needs to sell another you know three percent four percent of g.d.p. every year because they're running deficits so their goal is to with the tax increases which i don't think they work but the they're going to try to keep their
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deficit balanced in a few years continue to move the debt it's all of them out of the debt rather off of their abates and and pigeon bones on the balance sheet of the central bank and once it's at a point where they cannot allow interest rates to rise because what you have to understand is interest rate drop was just two percentage of panic it would into taking eighty percent of their tax revenues just to pay the interest that's not a working business model right so that they're really forced to do radical quantitative easing and they're going to call it all sorts of things. but it's a currency war on nonetheless and. it's going to force adjustments in korea china japan i mean the philippines all of their exporting neighbors. would be a huge problem for germany because germany competes head to head with japan more
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than they do any other asian country in the markets in asia. it's not something you'd think about it but when you when you can actually go back to analyzing it what do the germans and the japanese both do they make machine tools they. export back people's cars they they have a lot of the same products that are high and. very very. intellectual property type things and when you give the japanese a ten percent current to start a three year that's going to be this is going to getting every year for the next ten or you know because the japanese don't need to go to two hundred km our best bet that would be obsessed or what they want to do is to you know the end of this year you sir one hundred ten ok at the end of the year it's a hundred two hundred twenty eight hundred twenty could just. push it along now in
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your post you wrote quote i would argue along i think with austrian economists hiatt and other economic schools that recessions are not brought on by insufficient consumption but rather by insufficient income but actually that is a claim by all of today's leading keynesian economists notably that wage growth has been poor now here's the question how can america get this wage growth up so that americans have sufficient income to consume without taking on debt. that just takes time i mean look at look at the one source of work credit is growing and it's growing in student loans which i would suggest is going to be a disaster because it's the one type of created the one type of loan that you can't get rid of in a bankruptcy you're stuck with that loan for ever and it's it will be there oh. we're getting a situation where people are going. i have to be more frugal of current consumption
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i mean when somebody borrows money to buy something today that means that they're not going to have the ability to buy something in the future because they're going to be paying that debt back so. dead these future consumption brought forward its future consumption denied and it grew redder than trying to say let's get ourselves into a balance here you were using debt for productive purposes we're using day to buy companies are things that are going to produce income that are going to make us more productive rather than using dead necessarily if you consume. and i'm not arguing in that she should go out and get a car and i do that. borrowing money to that market you mentioned the mortgage at the place so but i think it's giving me a productive asset i think it's going to be and it's an asset that i want that i can comfortably pay. let's hope for mr maule than it does prove to be productive that was chairman of malden economics and author of the book code red at john
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bolton. time now for a quick break but stick around because when we return i'll be speaking with barry eichengreen live on the show there is right behind me now the economist and author is joining us via berkeley california where he is professor of economics and political science at u.c. berkeley then in today's big deal edward harrison and i are discussing dr kafir and what his ph d. tells us about the future of china and as we head to a quick break here a look at some of your closing numbers at the bells figure out. when the steam. it puts everything in. letting go of the identities for me isn't. part of the
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ukrainian pressure should come during lent it's a threat to russia. i mean it is a small republic and russia is a huge country and defend us. the long came to an end when the first moment of cocktail was thrown at our guys who stood there defending the law and order we believe that he. has never surrendered to anyone and it never will.
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vary i can greene is a well known professor of macro economics and political science at the university of california california berkeley now dr eichengreen has done considerable research on the history and operation of the international monetary and financial system his best known work golden fetters not to be confused with feathers fetters is about the monetary system up to and during the great depression but we're here today to get dr eichengreen view on the current monetary system and macro economy especially as it relates to recent turbulence in china and the emerging markets now first and foremost thank you so much for joining us dr eichengreen but what i want to ask you is. let's start in china now the country obviously it's experienced a lot of currency issues it's weakening as of late other things of that nature now is this a sign of a weakening demand or is china showing more exchange rate flexibility that will
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increase trust in their currency abroad. well we have to hope that the answer is the latter that the recent moves in china's currency are designed to. pave the way for the country to open up its financial markets to the rest of the world they want to eliminate one way bets they want to avoid the danger of being flooded with foreign capital when they open up so by letting the currency move down as well as up there telling traders that. it's a two way bet not a one way bet the other interpretation is less positive and it's that the chinese economy is slowing down faster than the authorities there wants by weakening the currency they can boost their exports which is the traditional way that they fight a weakening economy. now are you concerned that china's rebalancing efforts going
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to have a negative knock on effect for emerging markets. if china were to slowed down dramatically that would have a negative knock on effect for all of us for emerging markets that export commodities to china for the united states in the world economy more generally i think china is still enough of a controlled economy that they can control the rate of descent of economic growth there are problems in banking system in the shadow banking system in particular but i continue to think i continue to hope that they have the resources to manage those so any knock on effects will remain with mild on much more worried about ukraine about global energy markets about the middle east and about europe than i am about china berry there is some concern in financial markets that the sell off of industrial commodities will negatively affect credit markets because some in china
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have actually been using commodity stockpiles as credit is this a concern that you share. i think there are multiple reasons to be worried about what's going on in chinese credit markets. commodity related exposures as you say property related to exposures as well. nobody on the outside really knows what is lurking in. the shadow banking system we have to hope that the chinese authorities do know. let's hope it is a shadowy industry that's for sure now i know that china has a fixed exchange rates but how is trying to so-called currency manipulation any different from the u.s. federal reserve or the bank of japan and i mean isn't it monetary policy in the us and japan depreciating there was respective currencies as well. you know a situation of weak global growth which is the situation we're in at the moment everybody wants a weaker and c.
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so they can get. a few more exports a little bit more of that global market share japan wants a weaker yen as you heard earlier in the hour the europeans would welcome a weaker euro although they're not willing to do anything about it and i think the fed fear is a stronger dollar if. and the europeans and others all take moves to weaken their currency. such as the nature of currency markets that it's a little bit of a. zero sum game now you brought up the ukraine before can you expand on what your strongest concerns are there specific way. well i think the big thing to be worried about is pretty obviously western europe's dependence on eastern european and russian natural gas exports and energy price shock
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emanating from some kind of embargo or or political. tension would not be good for what's a very energy dependent western europe in germany already they have big problems with their energy market because of poorly designed transition to green energy i'm all for trying to green german energy market and move away from risky nuclear production where it is risky but the way they've done it in germany hasn't worked well and if on top of that they get a shot in terms of imported energy that could. be the shock that pushes the eurozone back into recession which would be scary now barrie you want something recently about the u.s. re nationalizing the fed which i had acted as a defacto international lender of last resort can you please explain your argument to our viewers. well we. were able to read the
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transcripts of the federal open market committee from two thousand and eight as of late last month and what they told us was that the fed really took important steps in terms of providing dollar credit lines to central banks and governments around the world after lehman. members of congress are uncomfortable about the fed acting as a global global lender of last resort and taking on those risks but someone has to take them on and the problem we have is that the congress hasn't passed the legislation needed for the international monetary fund to. take on those risks so it really really has to be an either or thing either we have to accept that the fed has the power or we have to give it to our international organization like the fund i would prefer the latter i think it would be more
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legitimate it would be more supportable politically but for the congress to resist the fed taking on that responsibility and to refuse to allow the fund to take it on . simply puts us in a box where there is no solution the next time a global liquidity problem comes around. that must have been some way reading the effort i'm seeing minutes from us two thousand and eight good for you for taking out all thousand pages well thank you for doing it for us someone had to hear it now i want to move on because the events in the emerging markets are the ones that are causing the most in global markets so the question is is the fed's tapering a primary cause of emerging market volatility sadly we only have sixty seconds but you think you can answer. yeah i think the primary cause is problem same in emerging markets themselves they have economic problems good economic times were bad times for reform so a number of countries fell down in terms of reform there is political noise in
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venezuela argentina brazil and turkey so a combination of economic slowdown and political noise i think is primarily what's going on there and tapering. is a small added element. barry thank you so much for your time your insight we have to have you back on the show very soon that was very i can greene professor of macro economics and political science at the university of california berkeley time now for today's big deal. big deal to end with edward harrison and today we're discussing dr copper and a gloomy future for china. so far this year china has not been meeting market expectations chinese officials have revised their twenty fourteen growth
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expectations from seven point seven to seven point five percent and china's industrial output grew eight point six percent in the first two months of twenty fourteen which is the weakest since two thousand and nine now people say that copper has a ph d. in economics because of how widely it used to industrial production and when prices go up things are good but vice versa means bad times ahead now china is estimated to make about up forty percent of the world's demand for copper so let's take a look at copper now in this crowd the yellow line shows the copper price which is down about ten percent but the green line that shows the s. and p. going up so dr copper are out to lunch what's happening with copper in china basically the industrial output there and talk to me. you heard from our previous guest about all the problems in china it was interesting actually dennis gartman was talking about this and he's fairly bullish on the on the macro economy but he said that copper and not just copper but a whole host of industrial commodities they were sending
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a very negative message so when you see that dichotomy between the s. and p. still going up and copper going and that's not a good because what it says is that it to the degree that copper is a proxy for what's happening in china specifically china as. you know a global growth engine. simply should not be vaulted higher as it's doing makes it much more susceptible to a crash right now some analysts analysts believe that the shadow banking system in china laos also plays a role in the slowdown in the price of copper and what is the shadow banking system of china specifically and actually even more specifically can you quickly give us a synopsis of shadow banking in general let me give you some scenarios of what's going on because basically what's happening is that there are people who are using things like copper and iron ore as. collateral for loans and here's here's here's
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one scenario here. the chinese speculator gets u.s. dollars loans from a bank to import copper then that spec same speculator goes out and sells that copper elsewhere within china to raise chinese currency expecting the currency to appreciate and problem the currency is not appreciating as barry was saying it's pauley so that scenario number one here's another scenario. you know speculator number two here is going to get the u.s. dollar loan from a bank to import copper. he sells the copper elsewhere within china to be invested in these so-called wealth management products that's the saddlebag again that is the shot of the wealth management products and unfortunately the authorities are cracking down on loans by shadow banks to property developers and so those products are going nowhere and let me let me give you another scenario here. and speculator gets a letter of credit from the bank that was called a shadow bank to buy copper off shore then he uses that copper as collateral for
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short term lol from another shuttle and then that speculator invests in a wealth management product problem chinese stock market is tanking you know we're at about thirty percent of the. in two thousand and seven so all those scenarios a very bad lead to a very bad situation because now the chinese leadership essentially wants to tighten credit to avoid a bubble in the shadow banking system. much tolerance do you think the chinese will have for the slower economic growth in their country will premier leave. you know they are willing to tolerate as much. as is necessary in order to keep jobs going to have jobs keep on going even though the economy is going to let it continue to go down they want to do is get rid of all of this excess and if that means that the economy has to shrink
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a little bit or not grow a little bit less robust then that's gone but a lot of people think that we're getting close to the level where they're going to have to get the panic button and then you know refly go and start trying to get some stimulus in there and as always thank you so much for your insight it's brilliant always every time that's all for now but you can see all segments mr and in today's show on you tube at you tube dot com slash the best r t we also love hearing from you so please check out our facebook page facebook dot com slash boom bust r.t. you can also tweet us at our neighbor at edward n.h. from all of us here at boom bust thanks for watching shall.
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