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money really. the wages of debt. i guess story day in crimea as people in the region cast their votes on whether to remain part of ukraine or break away and asked to be reunited with russia. my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one nine hundred forty s. and didn't move ever since parties camera crews searched crimea for russian troops and tanks columns that the mainstream media insist are there but finds there are no words to be seen. plus emotions are high on the last day all over the paralympic winter games as team russia clocks up an all time record of eighteen medals. and in other news here in r.t. the venezuelan government issues and ultimatum to anti-government rioters and
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accuses washington of stirring a month of unrest that's left at least twenty eight people dead. watching my dear national coming to you live from moscow i'm marina joshie welcome to the program now it's crunch time for crimea as people in the autonomy's province of southern ukraine flocked to the polls for a referendum on their future status. now turnout is already proving quite high and majority in the region refuse to recognize the post-coup government in kiev and have two outcomes to choose from option one crimea remains part of ukraine but with greater autonomy including
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separate citizenship and an independent legal system option to the peninsula is reunited with russia which it was a part of for centuries but that would of course have to be ratified by president or artist policy or in the original capital following the developments for us well paula do tell us what's going on and how's the voting going so far. well often nearly six hours on the road to some forty five states and i understand. that it is remarkable to see two to three times the turnout to go that was last indicated in the two thousand and twelve election so it gives you a sense of the historical importance that people here feel that this vote has the mood is almost jovial there have been no real reports of problems or provocations we have however heard from the crimean information minister that the official crimean referendum website has suffered a cyberattack originating from the united states we're also hearing
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a number of reports of some of the more far flung polling stations off suffering from a lack of electricity and telephone lines going down there was a provocation incident on saturday in the east in crimea where an identified a mosque gunmen attacked a gas station and they actually switched off the gas pumping so that you had no electricity and no gas supplies to a number of residential areas hospitals and schools. almost immediately you had a self-defense unit that arrived they managed to push the. back in the situation now is back in the hands of the crimean authorities what you see behind me is a number of cars x. they are securing the parliament building because i'm afraid exactly of incidents like this there hasn't been any provocations here and certainly the sense of around the parliament building is that things are calm and smooth and running according to plan i have been speaking to a number of foreign observers there representing at least some twenty one countries
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and one of the spaniards i was speaking to told me that he was surprised at the lack of cooperation and other foreign observer telling me that he had witnessed no coersion and that everything here was running smoothly at the same time there is a since talking to people here not only that history is being made there but there is rejoining russia let me remind you that crimea was part of russia for at least two centuries and it was given as a gift to the ukraine with the collapse of the soviet union so when you talk to people on the streets here they certainly feel that they roots the history and their families are in russia so they're joining the very important part of their history and culture when i took to the streets one of the questions i posed to people is what do they think of this new interim government in kiev and this is what they had to say. we
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are going to our mission with you know they all want to speak or they are offered one of their own they feel that all those people you know the ukrainian leaders but most ukrainians as well as russians and europeans view them as nazi collaborators on friday night two people were killed and at least four more injured in hardcore eastern ukraine by gunmen from the radical right sick to movement one of the strongest nationalist groups the leader of the right sector is running for president he's also on an international wanted list for inciting terrorism and has demanded that kiera. provide his fighters with weapons in response to the situation in crimea. the interim kiev government has six ministers including the deputy prime minister from the ultra nationalist far right svoboda party one m.p. from the party has already threatened russia with nuclear weapons if moscow does not cease to support the developments in crimea. i.
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think our government is not legal and sure is a power only by not by desire of people as a corrupt or is their power of or only buyers themself the forceful grab of power violence seizure of government buildings and nothing short of armed coupe that's how crimean see recent events and here they strongly disagree that those protesting in the capital represented the majority of the country's population and refused to recognize the coming to authorities as legitimate. the. first thing the good government did when they came to power was to make a lot cancelling the russian language obviously it created waves in the south east because that's a mostly russian speaking region it created a lot of anger. in ninety seven percent of crimea speak russian and the fact that one of the first actions was to strip the russian language of its official status
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could not these people here in different russian has also disappeared from government web sites they were also being cases of russian journalists being denied access to the country. it brought us here with the world when russia gave fifteen billion dollars it didn't put any conditions on ukraine it was for the ukrainians to decide how to use the money when europe gives money it immediately stipulates conditions to reassume benefits and to open the economy or to european products ukrainian products will start out competition from european products of yogen the market like the partnership deal with the e.u. was seen as catastrophic here from the onset now the west is promising economic aid through the international monetary fund but the assistance comes under the strictest of conditions and has already pushed other countries to the brink of collapse in today's referendum voters will be asked only two questions but whichever way the people choose the status of crimea will inevitably be very different from what it is now and there were actually many more reasons for people
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here to want their change policy r.t. some for a poll crimea now more than one hundred international observers are in crimea overseeing the voting there were spread present three countries and many of them are members of the european parliament some observers have already given very pinions on the ballot. i would like to see if there is really a way to put a crimean people to express their will and i think that's only what counts if the people in crimea wants to leave ukraine and join the russian federation then we should respect this i think they could be some provoke good steve. coming from the from. the far right so they will need some movements it's a few. months off to sleep. there is a goal of people. to actually vote about of own future. of course
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jeev is not happy about that but still you have to accept and to respect the vote of people in crimea a majority of the people. are looking for security for stability and for. the free will to take. the view we get through the european media the american and european medias is a very distorted i must say very very distorted you get no objective information for the time being through the media so we decided to come here. now the situation in ukraine has triggered an angry response from western politicians who have been quick to criticize what they see as russia's involvement my colleague bill dog spoke to brooks newmark a british conservative m.p. who is among those claiming the referendum in crimea is against international law and here's part of their discussion it isn't illegal it is merely legal referendum
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you cannot have unilaterally areas within countries having its own referenda why then surely other lebanese would why its central government in kiev regarded as legitimate from the west point of view when in fact it broke a peace deal brokered by politicians. in the concessions by may by any and yet it broke that peace deal and pushed its way into power is that legal and is that a democratic process. and that's a fair question but the question is then is it then for russia to go in and illegally invade another country to resolve there's been plenty of t.v. footage which we've all seen of russian soldiers out of their bases pointing guns at ukrainian soldiers well for an international audience it can be hard to separate facts from fiction when it comes to crimea especially with western media reports over massive military movements on the peninsula russian military helicopters and
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planes are entry in ukraine and russian forces have seized crimea's airports the u.s. intelligence community and nato are urgently trying to figure out what the russians may do next. from ominous tank columns invading the province to russian troops to arming ukrainian bases a constant flow of such reports have been appearing in the media ever since crimea made it clear that its loyalties did not lie with the on the left the government in kiev argues marina kasuga breaks down the conflicting data for us. the western media is reverberates in with the notion of a massive russian invasion and crimea this week the self-proclaimed prime minister of ukraine raised the alarm over what he claimed were russian forces and his country carrying russian bolts on the ground through russian tanks acceptable in the twenty first century well that's what all screens like this one on c.n.n. have been showing yes those are russian tanks so right there could have checked the location no because if they did that would see that it's actually four hundred
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fifty kilometers east of the ukrainian border and part of russia's military drills but it's what about ukraine well we went there to see if we can find any. well it wasn't easy i have to tell you but yes we admit we did find one german journalist mind you also rioters census this reports when i traveled to crimea i expected to find what i saw on western t.v. back home images of the russians or machine invading ukraine and it holds a protest by western politicians claiming an invasion was taking place right in front of our eyes i confess i did see one russian tank with my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one thousand forties and didn't move ever since ok so no russian tanks but hold on a second there is talk of russian troops who are these people are they evil russian soldiers who have been flown in to capture crimea or at the very least sway crimean
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voters. our correspondents want to speak to them and find out who they truly are we are just people who feel it's our duty to protect our native city i'm from civil stored for myself spend my whole life year we maintain public order look out for any provocations and make sure nobody attacks journalists and the rest of the people but is there no useful tool to small but i represent the self-defense term for company one of ten companies formed on february the twenty. third insuperable be my commander and here base the commander of the crimean front a public group which decided to act in these difficult times why do you think these are the russian military their crimean i'm crimean myself. stable must know that they are safe and protected not by the military but by regular citizens like themselves ok i get through these guys are but white there's a whole russian military base there oh yes russia is
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a black sea fleet is facing crimea under a deal with here and in fact it has been there for centuries under the terms of the lease and russia could actually send thousands of more but it hasn't and it's not achieved deal either costing moscow ninety eight million dollars a year. just to bring interest with what it's you see what's going on in ukraine people are being killed but if you come to civil stoppel you'll find peace and stability that's why we're here to ensure that. there's this false impression of war because of all the military personnel stationed here and of course it's being used to undermine the truth i know what kind of media war is being waged now that russia occupied this territory no it's nothing like that well we tried really hard to find those russian scientists in crimea or at least heavily armed russian soldiers arts alas
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we failed but what we do know for a fact is that there is definitely strong support for becoming part of russia but are so exactly how many people feel that way or that's what the popular vote is for marina cost of r.t. the new authorities in kiev quien the voting in crimea is coming under pressure and a difference from the local government well we spoke to an international observer add the referendum who sees things differently. quite frankly the presence of troops in the streets is virtually nonexistent and the only thing resembling any such thing are the middle aged cossack's behind me who are positioned outside the building here in simferopol but if you look at the people both at the voting stations in the industry like in yalta see from yesterday off to noon. frankly i think you would feel more tense insall
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chicago or new york's column than anywhere around here. course will be bringing you a lot of updates on the situation in crimea as the referendum progresses there and i'll go respondents are stationed in each major city and crimea bringing you the latest on air and online via the r.t. twitter feed as well we're also following the developments across eastern ukraine and in the ukrainian capital kiev this map shows the city where our team has people on the ground keeping track of events there and more news will be coming. i marinate join me. in that impartial and financial reporting commentary
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interview and much much. only on the bus and on. the new york market like. the face you know. pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i roll researcher. of america watching r t international the u.s.
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and european nations have taken a unanimous stance against the vote and crimea and baths and shop conference with the west support for similar referendum in the past some of which were held in the middle of war zones at r.g.s. pony boy who reports it's quite a long list you don't have to look back to see how the us and that western partners have at times encouraged referendums and secessionists splits the referendum on self-determination self-determination right to speak their language be recognized by more nations around the world shape their daily lives to them and their own future must take place. like one costs of a voted to carve itself out of serbia in two thousand and eight this is what the birth of a nation looks like. thirty year old thirty year old her governor her proof that in fact the u.s. backed kosovo's independence two years before the un judged it was legal and in doing so set the precedent. then after a long and bloody conflict ensued john
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a referendum so half the country break away in two thousand and eleven to create the world's newest country south sudan they realize ation of this historic day is a testament to tireless efforts of the people of south sudan and the search for peace. the u.s. set up its embassy in the new capital of juba that very same day. just last year off the coast of argentina the people of the vocal and islands voted overwhelmingly to remain british here's david cameron consoling the argentinian president i want to raise it specifically with the argentine president and say it's important that everyone pays attention to this referendum so that was the right thing to do. again in britain over three hundred years of union could all end this september scotland's being allowed to vote on whether to leave the union the prime minister says it's up to scots to decide their future.
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yet for all the talk of self-determination crimea's referendum has been denounced as illegal by the g seven group of the world's biggest economies the us has sent fighter jets close to russia deploying them in poland and lithuania it's also preparing sanctions along with the e.u. so when it comes to self-determination or territorial integrity your guess is as good as anybody's in predicting which way international powers will side the biggest clue is whether it fits better own interests polly boyko r.t. london now the parallels between the vote in crimea and cos it was in the pan in town been dismissed by the german chancellor but her statements are met a wave of criticism within the german parliament with left party members lashing out at yours handling of the issue. with kosovo they opened a pandora's box what's allowed for kosovo you should also allow for others i told
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you this but you haven't listened to me since winning the cold war has eclipsed everything for you you forgot about everything else the bus why can they make their choice whether they want to stay within spain or not because alone ians are asking why can't they decide when they want to belong to spain or anonymous of course people living in crimea are asking the same thing i think that crimea breaking away from ukraine is just the same as kosovo i knew putin would use this argument and he did. now the west is also putting direct russia on russia with threats of economic sanctions for europe those will come at a high cost now russia is that use third largest commercial partner with trade worth more than three hundred billion euros france will be reluctant to lose its one billion euros sale of a warship to moscow and russia is the largest market for europe's cars and the winter might be over by the e.u.
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still does buy almost a third of its natural gas from moscow london has benefited from a property sales of two russian it's worth five hundred million dollars plus every year russian spend seventy million euros on a school fees sanctions would of course hurt moscow but it does have key partners to the east trade with beijing has been booming in recent years notably in two thousand and ten and when it surged by more than forty percent and plus the size ratified an agreement that will see china buying thirty one million tonnes of russian oil annually geopolitical alice patrick the us says the west needs to tread carefully when it comes to sanctions. in terms of any sanctions from the u. there's no chance whatsoever it's all bark and no bite you know as far as washington goes if they're if they do impose sanctions it's huge ramifications here for for progress that's made been made globally in the last century and that's the
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restart of the start treaty in two thousand and ten that's certainly in jeopardy if washington keeps an aggressive stance on this and you have also the nuclear threat initiative and a lot of joint programs between the west and russia regarding the nuclear arsenal nuclear proliferation so what is washington really serious and they're willing to throw all that away to go so we're going to start the clock back in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine that's what i see happening with this this poll coming out of washington now so just crimea where people are unhappy with the new authorities in kiev the east of ukraine is getting increasingly restive people across those provinces have been holding anti-government protests for a couple of weeks now with calls for a crimea style referendum becoming more and more frequent ryan o'neal reports from the city often he asks. with the referendum underway in crimea now it has also appeared that there are parts of the east of the country that on inside the happy
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with the post-coup government in kiev either in donetsk where i am now thousands rallied yesterday in opposition to the government and marched on the security services headquarters where they demanded a referendum of their own asking for autonomy from ukraine and there's also been violence here between croaky have on probation protesters which on thursday night resulted in the stabbing of one something to death of one person off the police failed to keep them apart in cock of one of the east biggest cities two people were killed in a night of clashes right sector radicals opened fire on a group of prover ship protesters on which chased to a right sets a building where they threw molotov cocktails and fired shots from automatic rifles at the protesters never petroff six people carrying on see fascist clock odds demonstrated against the kiev government in the square i mean lugansk a russian flag was held over the city hall now they've they've banned protests there now until the end of march but with the referendum underway in crimea and
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these demonstrations in opposition to the post-coup government in kiev taking place it will be interesting to see how this unravels after this weekend. and the news just in here on r t the leader of ukraine's nationalist group right sector dmitry yarosh has threatened to blow up a gas pipe that goes from russia to europe through ukrainian territory he says such a measure is quite possible in case there are russian boots in ukraine to be our shoes the tories for his anti russian rhetoric earlier announced he's running for president of ukraine the far right group he's heading became a tourist for its violent guerrilla tactics rob unrest in ukraine and its threats against non ukrainians living in the country. because you know you. no one tells us when to bear arms and when not to
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you wasn't you'll give them to us and you won't take them away well those clips including the group's promotional video are circulating online the right sector may not be the biggest faction within the former opposition but it was at the forefront of the uprising its man stormed and torched government buildings and attacks on armed police squads they also consistently rejected the concessions offered by the end of college administration when i was trying in vain to call the unrest and now the right sector has become arguably one of the most influential groups in ukraine . well stay with us for all the very latest on the rallies in eastern ukraine and the referendum and crimea will be keeping you posted throughout the day here on our team or national.
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russia's winter paralympic team has already left its rivals trailing at the top of the medal count in sochi and they've kept up their momentum on the final day of the game sweeping the podium in both the man's and women's free cross-country skiing into france is following the action and joins us live now. so either lindsey so quite a story history making before means there are a form team russia. absolutely right the home team will be taking away eighty medals this obviously breaks a huge record set ninety four by austria's team with seventy the home team breakdown and the medal count goes something like this it's thirty gold twenty eight silver and twenty two bronze obviously something to be very proud of and proud of there they aim high and they achieved their goal of breaking that record
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that austria held for so long now from the weather to the competitions to the festivities everything has gone off without a hitch here and saatchi but of course don't take my word for it let's listen to what the athletes and spectators have to say about that. organization was phenomenal everything was great. by ski racer in the race it was extremely low condition. i don't farley's. a lot of being there's an overabundance of it here because it's just amazing to have to leave for this. to have such an emotional time piece there that the politicians security the all the people are very off the to be here. and so now obviously for the closing ceremonies and if recent history is any teacher they should be absolutely amazing the opening ceremonies were a breathtaking thing to see and very shortly here we've got the closing to
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anticipate so of course they want our team because we will bring be bringing you all of the details on that very shortly. all right lizzie thank you so much for bringing us this update live from sochi. and in just a moment katie pilbeam who will be guiding you through the week's business news and i'll be back after that with more news including how britain's standing in firm. on its use of military drones abroad despite reports of an alarming civilian death toll.
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hello that welcome to venture capital today the referendum on crimea joining russia
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will take place we discuss the economics of the region on the financial impacts of both potential outcomes on ukraine and russia plus lomb allies the latest gas disputes ukraine rough some money for gas bills and we question that your role in the resurfacing gas war between kiev and moscow in house of best stuff to mugabe is for his second week of a job last week he's on the way and as a consequence invested ten thousand u.s. dollars in their fault but due to the fallout in ukraine says the us is flagship carry out hops a kid but no it is interesting to see what he's got to say a little later on in the size of the. first of all this focus our attention is on the crimea because today the people of the region will decide if they want to be considered ukrainian all russian in a referendum so does it take a look back in history and see why the ownership of crime a is being questioned at all so crimea was conquered by russia back in the
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eighteenth century by catherine the great i was part of russia until nineteen fifty four when soviet leader nikita khrushchev gave the pendency to ukraine as kind of a gesture but at the time it was all part of the soviet republic and away until the end of the soviet union that is in one thousand nine hundred ninety one and then crimea became independent with ukraine but the sea surrounding the region is home to russia's black sea fleet the population is russian speaking but history politics aside what does the result of this referendum mean for the economies of both ukraine russia eve kiev was to part with crimea or indeed. now the crimean peninsula is home to vost oil and gas fields deals with oil giant exxon mobil show were believed to be in the early stages with the ousted ukrainian president viktor yanukovych investments that could have been absolutely crucial to
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ukraine's economy obviously in enduring recession so ok for more details and we want took about the financial implications now on the crimea results are now joined by mark sloboda a professor of international relations at moscow state university if crimea does join russia what are the financial implications for russia and ukraine. the financial implications for russia of course will deal not only with what happens in the crimea which i think to some extent is already you see the complete but they will also depend on what happens in the south and the. east of the ukraine and how long this regime in kiev lasts before it implodes but if we take the crimea in isolation. the financial implications first of all the main industry what is best known for toryism and this goes back to the days even of the
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russian empire when the crimea was a big destination for the aristocracy the royal family all the way through the soviet period up until today but the crimea today is much more than just the tour of the tourism industry there is an extremely valuable state owned. energy and gas business no more nafta gas which produces almost the entirety of ukraine's domestically produced gas the ukraine is almost entirely dependent for energy on russia but what it does produce comes from or came from the crimea how much money are we talking about here then i think we will definitely see ukraine lose large revenues in the
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process at a time when it can't even count on revenues from the east and south of the country which are very close to a state of political rebellion and those are the the east in the south aside from the crimea are the sources of the ukraine's biggest by far industry as well as exports so the economy of ukraine at least the bush regime controlled parts of it are looking disastrous catastrophic they are bankrupt they are heavily in debt. any aid that they may get in the. future from the west is extremely conditional on. i.m.f. conditionality new liberal shock therapy that will have disastrous social economic effects for the population that employment reduction and pensions education costs i
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think we're looking at. i would say a completely viable regime in kiev in the medium term our talk about the costs of taking on crimea i'm talking about paying pensions. examples like that it's not booming economy is it crimea no it's not the economy has a lot of potential both for tourism and for energy but as i've said earlier it has been left rather undeveloped so russia has already given indications that pension levels and other social benefits in crimea will be raised up to russian levels which are higher than they are in ukraine and that's before the cut that the rest of ukraine may soon be facing so obviously in the short term this will be a big draw on the russian budget at a time when it is probably also going to be affected by western sanctions. but i
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think for russia there are considerations more than just the immediate business in the short term that take priority in this case politics all right there mark will leave it there thank you very much indeed for your time today thank you for having me to the city so another issue is gas because ukraine is still the main transit route figure paying gas and ukraine also relies on rochelle for sixty percent of its gas needs now due to the political chaos and an empty treasury has not been paying its gas bills to russia the russian supplier gas problem but the gas from c.e.o. said moscow will not be cussing the supply this cannot go on. he voiced his concerns about supply to europe and warned of another two thousand and nine situation when ukraine didn't pay up and gas was cut off which did result in shortages for europe now although this risk has been alleviated slightly to the introduction of passing routes i'm talking about the nordstrom of course but the facts remain ukraine money
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ukraine is on the brink of bankruptcy but still needs gas so let's talk about this in further detail with chris we've heard from advisory now chris mosco is not planning to turn the tap soft but has made it clear that this can't go on this situation indefinitely so what happens now we know ukraine doesn't have the money it can't pay these bills what next. well i think the gas standing below and the requirement going forward will have to be part of a need to go between the government in kiev and the i.m.f. and the e.u. we know to talks are already taking place between the government in kiev and those organizations that would have used to getting at least some emergency financial aid so that the government would be able to continue to pay its debt and pay its obligations more substantial of a bailout talks that we believe will only take place after if you like that newly
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elected government is put in place perhaps in the summer in the ocean but the gas bill to to do two billion dollars over the jew must be part of the emergency bailout kiev is negotiating and i think that's what russia is saying is that they want to be paid they're not cranking up the pressure immediately threatening to cut off today or tomorrow but they want to make sure that gas is part of any emergency aid to kiev guesses that they can get paid and i also hear now about the sanctions that or potential sanctions if crimea does go towards russia and sanctions are imposed what would that mean for the russian economy that there's already damage. but it could get a lot worse if the sanctions are cranked up and now we do we have we're looking at is that sanctions usually come in four stages we've had stage one which is very minus to suspend these are trade talks and warning that stage one stage two is
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usually where we crank up to a state targeting individuals are some specific sanctions which are not necessarily economically damaging but more of the inconvenience category perhaps this tension of stuff like that that's what i would expect to see it early next week rather than the more serious sanctions of putting some restrictions on russian cut banks access to capital markets for example are some trade risk. actions because those sanctions also have implications for the e.u. economy because of russia's working position as well it's a trade partner and energy supplier so i think those sanctions possibly have a different red line do you sumption it's a red line perhaps it's just ukraine rather don't cry you need it for those sort of sanctions ok we'll leave it chris we thank you have a so much for your time i appreciate your comments and not one bit changed your image of what russian company is now on the situation in ukraine but it's
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a nightmare for us in stocks we know that because especially after a flawless says of russian spy ship carrier air well i take them as type the company has dropped by me to a fifth of its value just this week this is due to the airline changing its flight routes to comply with the territory of ukraine aviation safety so avoiding ukraine across its highway. and with travel then traffic in moscow is quite often a nightmare due to high demand paid new heavy ports but i been in and around. the company behind the project paris suez that we had to open seventy helicopter bases in the last every cent made on russia in the makeup of the car house decided to reduce the size of its beer bottles but keep this a twice this is due to the declining sales and increased taxes with production in russia down eight point five percent last year calls but expects the russian bear
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market to drop by another five percent this year. now someone who is going to be needing a big himself this is awake i've got to be because it was your first week in the job and you put all of your ten thousand u.s. dollars into ira flops. i spun the wheel and came up there are four which means air fleet in russia russia's largest airlines fortunately this week due to the instability in ukraine they didn't just cancel flights to ukraine but malls. flights over ukraine so as you can see here the stocks just drop drop drop ninety percent ninety percent of my money is gone but i still have faith in the wheel and let's see what i'm going to invest in this week all money down hard core. you know your i'm sure you. do you think that i should let my goodness i'm on the spot i have. a right you know wop i like green food i like to be
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healthy i've got an athlete sides and i like to look after myself what am i at the my and i'm trying to detox so what about dick say dixie ogden how about we go with your dixie one of russia's largest food retail chains they have a ton of grocery stores all over moscow and russia and europe all people are always going to need to eat so i bet it will be very profitable nice one tim all right well good luck. i haven't been to ted by disastrous fund i mean that in the dollar amount of i reckon it's going to get better from here because people wait here in russia there's lots of appetite so that's good stuff all right tim cappy have a great week and enjoy that today because you deserve it well i think well that's all for today and next week we will be discussing the financial outcome of all of the crimea referendum and i'll say good bye now goodbye.
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thank. you very hard to get. to. that. we are going there.
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welcome back you're watching r t international with me marina joshie but as well and authorities say they're preparing to clear protesters from central caracas after six weeks of clashes that have left twenty eight people dead the government has accused washington of stirring the deadly unrest going as far as denouncing secretary of state john kerry as a murderer while the white house however strongly denies having any role and says venezuela is simply seeking excuses to justify a terror campaign against its own citizens the walkouts began in mid february and the discontent over the state of the economy and opposition claims that they are being shut out of the political system but venezuela analysts to gregory wolpert told us a full scale cool looks unlikely. i don't think there's any chance that the government
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will be overthrown by these protests or anything like that but certainly the u.s. government is supporting the opposition by both financially and by giving it moral support and encouragement as you are saying just recently the u.s. senate is passing a resolution that would freeze their assets so it's going to have a government officials so this is kind of things that only encourages the opposition i think it contributes to a large extent why the protests have been down down here and the same time we know if you go through the list of people who've been killed so far and wounded in these protests. are by and large the people who were wounded and and killed by. their own opposition forces and not by. the police forces they're very very small minority are directly attributable to the police force details and background venezuela's crisis on our team dot com also there today israel tightens the screws
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on the gaza shutting off fuel supply to the territories only power plant leaving most palestinian households without electricity plus. setback for monsanto as france bans one of its genetically modified crops had a line to find out whether a complete ban of g.m. scenes is the likely to follow. british troops are gearing up for this year's withdrawal from afghanistan but the country's unmanned planes will reportedly continue patrolling the skies of foreign states including africa and the middle east out of sarah firth reports. by where the program. britain's drone war is looming feel the case. recently doubled to ten and there have been indications that their reach could spread far beyond the
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current operations in afghanistan bryza real commitment to use systems well into the future by the protests by the americans and by the military forces around the world oh yeah fording tin in lincoln and the heart of the english countryside a surveillance plane collides through the sky. you won't see any signs of the armed reaper fleet here they currently on deployment in afghanistan but it's from this base that they're operated un special rapporteur ben emmerson he's reporting to the impacted train strikes was published on cheese day said the person's ministry of defense could be preparing to use its retrains in africa in the middle east once they finish their deployment in afghanistan the ministry of defense of being on the base of the p.r. drive is to allow the regular answers some of what takes place over drone base here
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in our area for doing so but there are still more questions than answers once a month some protestors turned out to minding the greater scrutiny of exactly what goes on here but one of the things that's really important is clarity of what they're doing we hope there's going to be more public debate we're going to keep pushing it and this is train inquiry noted that research into civilian deaths was being hampered by government secrecy and appealed for greater transparency where civilian tests are concerned britain's reapers have clocked table forty six thousand hours flying in afghanistan and by the end of last july a total of four hundred five weapons were discharged but when it comes to civilian casualties. chris colin was said the figure is doing quite. a force of question please from crime strikes in afghanistan where we know there have been somewhere about four hundred to nine hundred so if you think. and if
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you're wondering why this protest group is so small while those being next to no public debate safe and now by and large the u.k.'s train activities continue to take place out of the site and far away from the eyes of the british public service r.t. reporting from lincoln and let's now take a look at some other stories from around the world syrian forces have seized complete control of a strategic town on the border with lebanon the army is now dismantling bombs laid by militants in the city of your brood it has been a rebel stronghold for months the syrian civil war has just passed a three year mark with an estimated death toll of over one hundred forty thousand people. more than one hundred people have been killed in a series of attacks on villages in central nigeria the assaults were reportedly carried out by islamic militants police have confirmed the raids to place sectarian
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flare ups between muslims and christians have left hundreds dead in recent years in nigeria. the pilots of a missing malaysian airlines plane may have been responsible for its mysterious disappearance with two hundred thirty nine people on board according to u.s. investigators that's after it was confirmed boeing triple seven was deliberately taken off course before it lost contact with flight control eight days ago some twenty five countries are now searching a vast area from central asia to the southern indian ocean but so far no sign of the plane has been found. a saudi diplomat living in los angeles could face the death sentence if he returns home after coming out ask a has asked for asylum in the u.s. but has so far received no response garbage can find out why. if saudi arabia being gay could be punished by death public lashings or jail time that's the law four years ago the employees of the saudi consulate in los angeles found out that
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their colleague ali ahmed of siri is gay saudi arabia has stripped syria of his diplomatic passport and insisted that he could back to his homeland assyria turn to the u.s. government for silence and you would think washington that claims to be vigorously defending gay rights around the globe would at the blink of an eye help this gay saudi man ovoid guaranteed persecution bottom up to this day a serious that is has been up in the air and i'm joined by his friend ali thank you so much for coming thank you and having a diplomat himself is not willing to speak publicly at the moment mr of syria says that if he goes back to to his country he could be killed in broad daylight as he said why do you think if he was stalling his asylum to the united states is experiencing. phenomenon where it is willing to violate its own domestic laws
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to please the saudi monarchy and this is what the obama administration is doing they are ignoring the same principles that they are advocating a broad in their country by denying mr nicety that i do i sign up and trying to deport them actively forty years after he sought asylum they did obama administration has proved that it does mother he cared about gay rights more and more then so it cares for the feeling and says to because of the solid you lot of thinking here think you will on top of being gay this saudi man has also openly criticized his country's quote unquote backwardness as well as the role of what he called militant evolves in saudi society and yet saudi arabia is one of america's best friends in the middle east and it is unlikely next time president obama warmly greets its ruler that they will sit down to discuss the little treatment of people like syria in saudi arabia in washington i'm going to take out. and i'll be back
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with the news headlines in just a few minutes here in r.t. international to stay with us. ukrainian fashions have come to our land it's a threat to russia its. premier is a small republican russia is a huge country and defend us. to long came to an end when the first moment of cocktail was thrown at our guys who stood there defending the law and order and we believed and. brainy has never surrendered to anyone and it never will.
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and there are no more. nato. say sorry. reagan is just in here on r t international the leader always a great in a far right group who is running for president so residents to blow up a pipeline supply. russian natural gas to europe. i story day in crimea and people in the region cast their votes on where whether to remain part of ukraine or break away and ask to be reunited with russia. i see one russian tanks with my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one nine hundred forty s. and didn't ever since. parties camera crews search crimea for russian troops and tanks columns that the mainstream media insists are there but finds they are nowhere to be seen. plus emotions are high on the last day of the paralympic
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winter games as team russia clocks up an all time record of eighty madam. it is five pm in the russian capital you're watching r t international with me marina joshua and we'll begin with breaking news here well the leader of ukraine's older nationalist group right sector of dmitri yars has threatened to blow up a gas pipeline running from russia to europe through ukraine territory he says this will happen if russian troops and ukraine is running for president and the group he leads has become a tourist for its violent guerrilla tactics through the unrest in the country and its threats against non ukraine's living there.
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because you know you. no one tells us when to bear arms and when not to you wasn't you gave them to us and you won't take them away. yeah well those clips including the group's promotional video are circulating online the right sector may not be the biggest faction within the former opposition but it was at the forefront of the uprising its man stormed and torched government buildings and attacks on armed police squads they also consistently rejected the concessions offered by the un a cottage administration when it was trying in vain to call the unrest and now the right sector has become arguably one of the most influential groups in ukraine. while the threats to blow up a pipeline come on the heels of an attempt to sabotage
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a gas pumping station in crimea on saturday dozens of people who identify themselves as a crane border guard service forces try to damage equipment at a station on the peninsula but crimea self-defense units managed to thwart the attack all this comes as people in crimea flocked to the polls for a referendum on their future status now it's crunch time for crimea as people in the autonomy's province of southern ukraine flocked to the polls for a referendum on their future status. turnout is already proving quite high in majority in the region refused to recognize the post-coup government in kiev and have two outcomes to choose from option one crimea remains part of ukraine but with greater autonomy including
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separate citizenship and an independent legal system option to the peninsula is reunited with russia of which it was a part for centuries but that would of course have to be ratified by president putin are just policy here is in the regional capital following the developments. so far everything is smooth the weather here really has turned quite nasty it's cold and raining but that isn't keeping the crowds away within minutes of those polls opening this morning at eight o'clock local time there were dozens of people lined up outside we already hearing from the head of the election commission in so vast a poll that they expect all people there to have voted by mid day we're also hearing that a turnout of around eighty percent is expected with polygamy results and likely to be announced already this evening the situation is calm there is a great sense of excitement in the air talking to people on the street they all have the same message and that is that they believe that this is an historic occasion the overwhelming majority of people here are likely to vote to join russia
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i took to the streets of some from apple which is where i am in the capital city here in crimea to get a sense of what people are thinking and why the overwhelming majority here are likely to vote in favor of joining russia. very awkward for our missionaries or you know they all want to speak there they are offered one of their own trickier because they feel that all those people like heroes of ukraine only but most ukrainians as well as russians and europeans knew them as nazi collaborators on friday night two people were killed and at least four more injured in hardcore eastern ukraine by gunmen from the radical right stick to movement one of the strongest nationalist groups the leader of the right sector is running for president he's also on an international wanted list for inciting terrorism and has demanded that kiev provide his fighters with weapons in response to the situation in crimea. the interim kiev government has six ministers including
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the deputy prime minister from the ultra nationalist far right svoboda party one m.p. from the party has already threatened russia with nuclear weapons if moscow does not cease to support the developments in crimea. i. think our government is not legal and sure is a power only by not by desire of people as a cup drizzy or power of or new buyers i'm self the forceful grab of power violence seizure of government buildings and nothing short of armed that's how communes see recent events seen here they strongly disagree that those protesting in the capital because into the majority of the country's population and refused to recognize the coming to authorities as legitimate.
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is there in the good government did when they came to power was to make a law cancelling the russian language obviously it created waves in the south east because that's a mostly russian speaking region it created a lot of anger. ninety seven percent of crimean speak russian and the fact that one of the first actions was to strip the russian language of its official status could not leave people here in different russian has also disappeared from government websites they were also being cases of russian journalists being denied access to the country. as you were the world when russia gave fifteen billion dollars it didn't put any conditions on ukraine it was for the ukrainians to decide how to use the money when europe gives money it immediately stipulates conditions to resourceful benefits and to open the economy to european products ukrainian products one standout to competition from european products have you open the market like that the partnership deal with the e.u. was seen as catastrophic here from the onset now the west is promising economic aid
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through the international monetary fund but the assistance comes under the strictest of conditions and has already pushed other countries to the brink of collapse in today's referendum voters will be asked only two questions but whichever way the people choose the status of crimea will inevitably be very different from what it is now and there were actually many more reasons for people here to want to change policy r.t. some for uppal crimea. now it's further discuss the crimean referendum with india's former foreign secretary cohen. this first of all thank you so much for joining us here on our theater national to talk about the situation crimea so russia has been threatened with sanctions in your opinion how far this could go. well you know the fact that the united states is threatening sanctions against a big power like russia speaks volumes of the manner in which the united states and
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the west are conducting their diplomacy not only with russia all around the globe this politics of intimidation and punishment and sanctions and believing that whatever they do is supported by the international community as a whole is kind of an ad. for dealing with other countries which needs to be controlled and i'm surprised that instead of trying to have a dialogue with russia. as a country which is equal to the united states in terms of its sovereignty and its interests and the dimity of legitimacy over the interest do the talking down to russia that if you do not do what we want you to do you will have to pay a price i don't think this is the manner in which international relations will be inducted and they do not surprising therefore that you have the presence down. the
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one sense and you in so far as to be yes sorry for interrupting your the west end of. the sanctions. yes one more time i'll repeat my question yes the west and kiev have dogged the referendum illegitimate to what extent do you agree or disagree with this. well you know the referendum to my mind is a political reaction to a development that we have seen in the ukraine a huge a geopolitical challenge has been made to the legitimate strategic interests of russia in ukraine the west and the e.u. have been playing with fire they are aware that the ukraine is extremely critical for russia in terms of history tradition culture and geopolitics interests and therefore to try and we know where you can reign into the political military and
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economic of it of the west is a probably a central russia in the west as progressively brought the former. members of the soviet union into into nato you know nato membership has increased from nine hundred ninety from sixteen to twenty eight now. nato how can the united. and not feel concerned about the expansion westward eastwards of of the european and u.s. military economic power and then there is the whole issue of values that they want to spread you know the values of democracy and market economy in other words they want to control the politics and the economics of these countries from within and to my mind the ultimate target is russia because they want to be able to promote these kind of forces within russia if they can and then take hold of the politics and economics of russia from within so there is a steady object steady aim and an objective that the west has been has been
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pursuing and to do in that connection what is happening in crimea and the fact that we are having a referendum today to my mind is a sense defensive political. or western policy can also call for a foreign secretary of india thank you so much for sharing it with us here on r.t. or national. now more than one hundred international observers are in crimea overseeing the voting and they represent twenty three countries many of them are members of the european parliament some observers have already given their opinions on the ballot i would like to see if there is really a way that for the crimean people to express their will and i think that's only what calms if the people in crimea wants to leave ukraine and join the russian federation then we should respect this i think they could be some provoked good steve before coming from the from the far right so
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they were moved movements by the people at the government of keep this legal given that there is a goal of people in for me to actually vote of out of own future. of course jeev is not happy about that but still you have to accept and to respect to vote of people in crimea majority of the people of crimea. i'm looking for security for stability and therefore i. will be free of what it will. take to fight this is the view we get through the european media the american and european media that is a very distorted i must say very very distorted you get no objective information for the time being through the media so we decided to come here. now for an international audience and can be hard to separate facts from fiction when it comes to crimea especially with western media reports over massive military movements on
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the peninsula him military helicopters and planes are entry in ukraine and russian forces have seized crimea's airports the u.s. intelligence community and they are urgently trying to figure out what the russians may do next. from ominous tank call us invading the province to russian troops storming ukrainian bases a constant flow of such reports have been appearing in the media ever since crimea made it clear that his loyalty is did not lie with the on elected government in kiev artie's marina cossar breaks down the conflicting data for us. the western media is reverberates in with the notion of a massive russian invasion in crimea this week the self-proclaimed prime minister of ukraine raised the alarm over what he claimed were russian forces and his country carrying russian bolts on the ground through russian tanks acceptable in the twenty first century well that's what all screens like this one on c.n.n. have been showing yes those are russian tanks so right they could have checked the
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location no because if they did that would see that it's actually four hundred fifty kilometers east of the ukrainian border and part of russia's military drills but it's what about ukraine well we went there to see if we can find any. well it wasn't easy i have to tell you but yes we had met with did find one german journalist mind you also rioters census this reports when i traveled to crimea i expected to find what i saw on western t.v. back home images of the russians or machine invading ukraine and it holds a protest by western politicians claiming an invasion was taking place right in front of our eyes i confess i did see one russian tank with my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one nine hundred forty s. and didn't move ever since ok so now russian tanks but hold on a second there is talk of russian troops who are these people are they evil russian
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soldiers who have been flown in to capture crimea or at the very least sway crimean voters. our correspondents want to speak to them and find out who they truly are we are just people who feel it's our duty to protect our native city i'm from civil stores will myself spend my whole life year we maintain public order look out for any provocations and make sure nobody attacks journalists and the rest of the people but it's the nerd you felt a little small but i represent the self-defense town company one of ten companies formed on february the twenty. third insuperable be my commander and here base the commander of the crimean front a public group which decided to act in these difficult times why do you think these are the russian military they are crimean i'm crimean myself. people must know that they are safe and protected and not by the military but by regular citizens like themselves ok i get through these guys are but white there's
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a whole russian military base there oh yes russia is a black sea fleet is facing crimea under the over here and in fact it has been there for centuries under the terms of the lease and russia could actually send thousands of more but it hasn't and it's not achieved deal either costing moscow ninety eight million dollars a year. we just don't bring the price with what it's you see what's going on in ukraine people are being killed but if you come to civil stoppel you'll find peace and stability that's why we're here to ensure that. there's this false impression of war because of all the military personnel stationed here and of course it's being used to undermine the truth i know what kind of media war is being waged now that russia occupied this territory no it's nothing like that. well we tried really hard to find those
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russian scientists in crimea or at least heavily armed russian soldiers ots alas we failed but what we do know for a fact is that there is definitely strong support for becoming parts of russia but us through exactly how many people feel that way well that's what the popular vote is for marina call serve artsy. well of course so we'll be bringing you a live update on the situation in crimea as the referendum progresses there and i will correspondents are stationed in each of the major cities there as you can see bringing you the very latest on air online via the r.t. twitter feed and we're also following developments across eastern ukraine and in the capital kiev as well this map right here shows the cities where our team has people on the ground keeping track of the latest events there.
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welcome back you're watching our national now the parallels between a vote in crimea and cost of us independence have been dismissed by the german chancellor but her statement was met by a wave of criticism within the german parliament with left party members lashing out at europe's handling of the issue. at the end of the book said. with kosovo they opened a pandora's box what's allowed for kosovo you should also allow for others i told you this but you haven't listen to me it's about winning the cold war has eclipsed everything for you you forgot about everything else the basques are asking why can't they make their choice whether they want to stay within spain or not catalonians are asking why can't they decide when they want to belong to spain or
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not of course people living in crimea are asking the same thing i think that crimea breaking away from ukraine is just the same as kosovo i knew putin would use this argument and he did. of noise for this business. now the west is also putting direct pressure on russia with threats of economic sanctions for europe those would come at a high cost russia is the third largest commercial partner was trade worth more than three hundred billion years now france would be reluctant to lose its one a billion a year a sale of a warship to moscow and russia is the largest market for europe's cars well the winter might be over but the e.u. still does buy almost a third of its natural gas from moscow and that london has benefited from property sales to russians worth five hundred five million dollars five hundred million dollars rather plus every year russian spent seventy million euros on u.k. school fees well sanctions would of course her moscow but it does have key partners
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in the east will trade with beijing has been booming in recent years notably in two thousand and ten when it surged by more than forty percent plus the side ratified an agreement that will see china buying thirty one million tonnes of russian oil annually geopolitical analyst patrick canning says the west needs to tread carefully when it comes to sanctions. in terms of any sanctions from the e.u. there's no chance whatsoever it's all bark and no bite you know as far as washington goes if they're if they do impose sanctions it's huge ramifications here for for progress that's made been made globally in the last century and that's the restart of the start treaty in two thousand and ten that's certainly in jeopardy if washington keeps an aggressive stance on this and you have also the nuclear threat initiative and a lot of joint programs between the west and russia regarding the nuclear arsenal
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nuclear proliferation so what is washington really serious and they're willing to throw all that away to go so we're going to start the clock back in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine that's what i see happening with this disk talk coming out of washington now it's not just crimea where people are unhappy with the new authorities in kiev the east of ukraine is getting increasingly rusty if people across those provinces have been holding anti-government protests for a couple of weeks now with calls for a crimea style referendum becoming more and more frequent ryan o'neal reports from the city often it's. with the referendum underway in crimea now it has also appeared that there are parts of the east of the country that on inside the happy with the post-coup government in kiev either in donetsk where i am now thousands rallied yesterday in opposition to the government and marched on the security services headquarters where they demanded a referendum of their own asking for autonomy from ukraine and there's also been violence here between croaky have on probation protesters which on thursday night
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resulted in the stabbing of one something to death of one person after police failed to keep them apart in coc of one of the east biggest cities two people were killed in a night of clashes right sector radicals opened fire on the group of prover ship protesters on which chased to a right sector building where they threw molotov cocktails and fired shots from automatic rifles at the protesters and never petroff six people carrying on see fascist clock odds demonstrated against the kiev government in the square i didn't lugansk a russian flag was held over the city hall now they've they've banned protests there now until the end of march but with the referendum underway in crimea and these demonstrations in opposition to the post-coup government in kiev taking place it will be interesting to see how this unravels after this weekend stay with us for all the latest on the rallies in eastern ukraine on the referendum in crimea we'll be keeping you posted throughout the day here on our team international.
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russia's winter paralympic team has already left its rivals trailing at the top of the medal count in sochi and they've kept up their momentum on the final day of the games sweeping the podiums in both hands and women's free cross-country skiing going to france is following the action. the home team will be taking away eighty medals this obviously breaks a huge recordset nineteen eighty-four by austria's team with seventy the home team breakdown and the medal count goes something like this it's thirty gold twenty eight silver and twenty two bronze obviously something to be very proud of and proud of there they aimed high and they achieved their goal of breaking that record that austria held for so long now from the weather to the competitions to the
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festivities everything has gone off without a hitch here and saatchi but of course some tech my word for it let's listen to what the athletes and spectators have to say about that. organization was phenomenal it was great. fun ski racer and the racing was extremely low for these. adults are really. a lot of the there's over hundreds of here because it's just amazing to believe. to have such an immersion during your time there they did all that he should be all the people up there we are the to be here. and so now obviously for the closing ceremonies and if recent history is any teacher they should be absolutely amazing the opening ceremonies were a breathtaking thing to see and a very shortly here we've got the closing to anticipate so of course they would r.t. because we would be bringing you all of the details on that very shortly. that's
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next in our theater national why there could be something fishy about your seafood supper. the evils of inflation and private central banks don't just affect you will see a lot. recently the russian ruble has gone from around thirty roubles the dollar to thirty five yikes people in the russian media are now debating whether to go dollars or euros but the thing they forget is that all this paper money one way or another is doomed by inflation so if you have a few thousand dollars or rubles that what should you do with it many people say that gold is the way to go because it has retained value for thousands of years but the land has also been in big demand since the dawn of time and paper money
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inflates into nothing a nice big chunk of the earth's surface is always worth something according to the washington post twenty eleven the u.s. so security system is forty five billion in negative cash flow so maybe it's time to invest in having some children because for most of human history your retirement package was your kids so security might not cut it for my generation and last but not least you can still buy and sell guns from the eight hundred for cash what other things in your house will retain that much value in over one hundred years so maybe if you are one of the mega rich guys playing currency games you can fight inflation but for the rest of us gold land kids and samuel cole are probably the safest financial options but that's just my opinion.
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a rural road in western norway. surrounded by glaciers and clips. a road is winding as the shores of the fiords. after hours of searching i finally reach my destination. floating on cold water fish farms. where in my one of the country's most hidden treasures farmed salmon. in these deserted places surrounded by fences and closed doors. i have an appointment with a man who wants to reveal what he considers to be a scandal. couldn't under the waters of the fiords.
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is one of the ways most respected environmental activists. has gone to war against salman farmers who according to him are responsible for a large scale health disaster. it is said the sauce that this and know all this fish because this is that to too many together you know with two million in the fish from like this that too many together and they get sick and today you have you have a you have a pond to me because. i size spread all over norway and they don't tell they want to don't want to tell it to the customers like the people in france you know. over the last ten years kurt has placed these factory farms under strict surveillance. gathering evidence. today he wants to reveal to me the practices of these norwegian fish farmers whom he considers so dangerous. in these images which he filmed he claims that these men are pouring
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a powerful pesticide into these waters one known to have neurotoxic effects. they must protect themselves with work suits and gas masks from chemicals to treat salmon attacked by pests and diseases which abound in these farms. you would find different kind of teen you will find you will find food banks are all you know all kind of chemicals and that's that's disgusting you know you know it's it is not safe for people to hear i mean. you know is the most toxic food you have in the whole. toxic fish which are regularly sold in our supermarkets. and no we can salmon is not the only species concern. to verify these accusations i spent several months investigating behind the scenes in the fishing industry. the ultimate health food
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recommended by doctors and nutritionists fish is retained its image as a healthy and natural product. yet it's flesh holds many secrets among the most toxic in the admiral food industry. from norway to vietnam via sweden and denmark i investigated the ins and outs of this global industry. fish livestock fish products but also prepared dishes were going to dive into the murky waters of an out of control industry which to our knowledge is pouring a dangerous cocktail of chemicals into the food which we choose our table.
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in france fish consumption has more than doubled over the last fifty years it has now reached thirty seven pounds per year per capita that's more than before chicken . to meet the demand new fish appeared today and today's fish shops hardly resemble those of the past. hello you know what would you like i'd like to salmon filets place ok ok. in this parisian fish shop the salmon is scottish the basque is greek and apart from the trout not a french fish to be seen. we have very little french fish because we know that's not what we're getting they just say it's from a certain zones in the north atlantic a few years ago we had a lot more precise information sure. today the vast majority of fish consumed in france is imported. and nearly half of it is farmed fish.
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they are farmed salmon bass and bream approximately sixty percent is fish from the sea and the rest discarded. fish which are much cheaper than fish products such as these farmed salmon for les's or these panda filets. a twelve year old ninety per kilo it's the cheapest fish in the story. that's coming at twelve ninety per kilo that allows some people to be able to eat fish inexpensively but they can't afford to buy cod fillets at thirty two heroes a kilo. itself very well. when's the next shipment to melinda. relatively unknown until ten years ago today panga is one of the ten most consumed fish and friends. it can be found in fish shops and also in. most supermarkets as frozen fallacious.
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but thanks to its low price tag has become especially prevalent in the mass catering business to the point of becoming one of the most consumed fishes in school lunches. how of these farmed fish products been able to be offered at such low prices and what exactly can be found in the flesh of these fish which is being served to our children. in southern vietnam in the mekong delta the first step of my investigation. here pank is part of the culling area traditions sold in the markets consumed every day in restaurants. but behind this traditional image there's another reality. for fifteen years panga has also become one of the principal money makers of the region. ninety five percent of global production
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comes from southern vietnam. in the small village of cunto in the delta a statue has been erected to it right next to that of the father of the country's independence. i'm to discover that this economic success also hides a darker side exploiting the inhabitants as well as the environment. on the river i have an appointment with a busy man who the vietnamese call the panga king mr min. in just under fifteen years he has amassed the fourth richest fortune in the country thanks to his fish farms. he exports bangit to more than thirty different countries including friends for the first time he has accepted to open his doors to television companies. that are going to tell mr min about it and. big fish are feeding over there. yet i don't know let's just show them the little fish they're
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hungry let's go over there. mr minns fortune can be found entirely under the water of these fish ponds. to understand its magnitude you must come here early in the morning and watch the show while the fish have their breakfast. thought. could. theoretically one of these ponds three hundred thousand think of an industrial concentration for abrasion fish thought. oh yeah. we feed these kind of twice a day and each time you give them three tons of food that's how we feed them right . stuffed with dr phillip feed bloated with fat and protein the fish reach adult
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size in just six months two times faster than nature. to ensure production mr men has over three hundred fifty ponds of this kind. on my farms there are a hundred million pound you. must realize there are more fish in my puns than there are people in all of vietnam. to prepare the fish which will be sold at low prices on the european market more than a thousand workers process up to one hundred tonnes of pangle per day. before freezing one last step is necessary i and that begins in these large washers. in this water poly phosphates additives which facilitate freezing i but they have a. another advantage. they allow the celebs to soak up water which artificially
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increases their weight. in the end the fish are tasteless and odorless but surprisingly to mr min that is an advantage for exportation. that unlike other fish has no odor and it's tasteless as well as so it takes on the flavors of the spices and. so suddenly it's become a favorite of kitchens throughout the world that's the secret of. every here vietnam exports one point five billion of these low cost colorless and odorless fillet. twenty percent of the production coming from mr minns plants. in his freight depot several thousand tons are being shipped to spain the ukraine as well as brazil but also according to mr min to certain french supermarkets. this is the build for our fish which is being sent to car for. one it goes through
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a middleman because car for doesn't buy from us directly. is a wholesaler who buys a shipment from us and resell as part of it to call for. this is the wholesaler who's based in paris. in mr mims panga we didn't find anything that would raise health concerns. but on other fish farms something flush with dangerous chemical cocktail concentrations most farm panga are sick because of the pollution from the mekong waters. mr greene is the local representative of the w.w. in two thousand and nine dissociation put pangle on its red list of products which are dangerous to the environment as well as to the consumer. there that's a fish from. the penguin on this farm
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a raised in water directly pumped into the channel. one of thousands of small tributaries of the with high pollution levels. into these channels millions of yet the miis dump their household waste on a daily basis. the region is also the world's largest rice exporter. intensive cultivation practices which spread massive amounts of pesticides faced with this cocktail of pollutants the waters have reached high alert status. these channels concentrate green algae and bacteria which destroy the oxygen and release talks on into the water. and that can make the penguin sick. yes. of course they've got it by reducing the oxygen levels and the water it affects the immune system and the
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health of the fish well. the interview. you know recall very black and white. issue.
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with a war. was. to follow. them to. the media leave us so we leave the people. of the scene secure the. party there's a little shoes that no one is asking with to get that you deserve answers from. politic. parties. and to treat their pain by pollution farmers for industrial quantities of drugs into the ponds. on this
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farm in fact the fish have caught several diseases so this is a big trauma. but wait just a moment is a researcher at the university of number were in belgium. he came to help this farmer to treat his sick panga they do not have too many problem with. this on the body. to their body and there is also the leading leading in the finish area yes. ok bleeding. and they also get a liver disease in the liver yes. but weakest amount is going to discover that to treat the fish farmers use dangerous doses of drugs.
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plenty of chemical free. yes there is here you can see the antibiotics. in this local pharmacy there are hundreds of boxes of antibiotics of all kinds heavily used on the farms they cause a chain reaction of. ok the problem and the problem is that there are always residues but when they're found in an environment and eventually bacteria becomes resistant to these antibiotics is all computed. regularly administered to the fish these antibiotics heighten the diseases they're supposed to fight forcing the producers to raise the dosage is. a vicious circle because today the farmer can't avoid it. and you know what the fish consume the antibiotics they become absorbed into its tissues and it will be released as a form of residue like
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a feces via excretion. and then these antibiotic residues will be found elsewhere in the channels to the point where they can also spread to other fanis me because these waters are also used by other fish farming just. to stop this vicious cycle but clique estimate is trying to promote less polluting drugs. but they are much too expensive for farmers who complain about the market prices of their fish being offered by western distributors. oh yes search for the us in the us and our production costs are twenty five thousand dollars per kilo but our selling price is only twenty two thousand dollars so we're already losing money . ok so we're good for the for the business but sometimes it's after the antibiotics but the customer will make an even more disturbing discovery or associate their stock. my goodness
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when earth. looks like it then you can. have a probably. the. best asides that concentrate in fish flesh and in the mekong waters dry feed pellets which make the panga grow twice as fast then from natural food. and a record number of fish concentrated in the ponds these farming conditions put consumers health at risk. here in vietnam is where my investigation ends because there haven't been any independent scientific studies conducted here on the subject . to find the uncertain i'm to return to a country that has pushed the use of chemicals and has us still farming techniques even further.
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in norway fish farming is a four billion euro a year industry. this is the second biggest resource of the country after oil seventy percent of the salmon consumed in france comes from these farms which are directly immersed in the waters of the fiords. but in this secret and opaque world journalists are not welcome. and no fish farmer has agreed to open its doors to us. full to shop it. once again i find kurt loder got of the activists who fights against the methods used by the norwegian fish farmers to unlock the secrets of the fish farms his organization is employed methods worthy of a spy movie. this boat and also with the underwater robot with which he probes the waters of the fuel.
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it's filled with bacteria. there in the bubbles this layer is full of waste. under the farms mountains of sediment fifteen meters high where there is a mixture of food scraps and chemicals which are poured into the farms every day. it's incredibly polluted. for worker severances this is this considered all the talk has been sprayed for a fish to the ally saying anything taints the fish of the south sea and have a seed of sea bottom is complete destroy you and that's a gas factory and no it bubbles off and all kind of met that methane and some of
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these sites are using is the same that was used during the first world war to gas people and they have a complete project that goes that everything you know the main problem for now we can fish farmers is this parasite the sea likes. it launches in the fish flesh and can kill them. becoming resistant to all the treatments it forces the farmers to use pesticides which are more and more potent. these farming conditions produce frightening consequences in the fish. like in these cod deformed by genetic mutations so. this escape could called from a fish farm from a cold fall nearly fifty percent of the cord is born like this they can never close them out this is a this and kinetic that the damage it takes a generation in the sea to get this away you understand. female cawed
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of this type is known to get the pregnant wild male cawed seated beautiful faces you know. you know only two things like this but if you chop that off you wouldn't see it. salman also suffer less visible but equally disturbing transformations. see this is a much smaller has a bigger with more sharp corners and because shell is not covering the heels you know that's very normal. what we find inside the fish is even worse typical. says no. so is. this a fresh someone who is breaking you see this is this is no good fish and this is should be able to turn back and forth that shouldn't break like this you know why would someone contains five to seven percent fat this contains between fourteen and
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a half and thirty four percent fat ice is the toxic so obvious following the fuck you know this is the most toxic food you have in this. since these fish have more fat the flesh of farmed fish absorb higher levels of chemical residues. and the observations of kurds have now been confirmed by the studies of a french researcher. jerome who's a works for the university of bergen in norway. to measure the concentration of toxic chemicals present in various food products. and the results that he obtained are enlightening. different colors represent different pollutants. here you have different foods. have a bigger whole milk eggs apples potatoes. and.
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that's incredible we can see from the charts the farmed fish has much higher levels than the other products. baubles of course compared to other products can see very clearly that farmed salmon contains much more pollutants of course. and you can see the number as well as. if you. look at the farmed fish is five times more toxic than all the other products found in our supermarkets. and the conclusion is obvious. do you still eat farmed fish. no i don't know if you've stopped since these studies. if you simply must avoid exposure to these pollutants by ingesting them you're exposed if you like but that's obvious. because it not only is about measuring these
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pollutants it's also about evaluating their effects on these laboratory rats. we have a test group that we used as the control group where the mice ate standard laboratory food and we tested them on it and then we had another test group that had exactly the same food except that we added farmed salmon to it let you know for the test group fed with the farmed salmon he obtained some very disturbing results what we have here is the pose or fatty tissue from the abdomen and if you look at what happens to the farmed salmon it's pretty impressive. eating farmed fish has made them obese and diabetic. but it does organisms so expose it to fill it organisms are exposed to different pollutants estimable some of these pollutants their own to make the organism accumulate more fat didn't. do so a theory has been formulated which correlates to being a consequence of all the pollutants real counter in the environment that will separate all call not all the one will receive. their own roos and then makes
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another revelation. according to his research what makes the salmon flesh most toxic is not the pesticide poured into the farms. but rather the dried pellet feed which are fed to the fish. sort of pollutants come mainly from the food which is fed to the salmon. what are these pollutants. dinner and dioxins b.c.b.s. . in the stock safina all these chemicals to sit with me how is it that this is found in the dried palate feet the safe and well the well you have to ask those who ate the fish for quinoa philpott what is certain is that the effects can be huge that's what's dangerous on. simple dry pellets. which is even more dangerous than pesticides and antibiotics how is it made and why is it so toxic.
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the small port of tb or an in western denmark. here fishing boat don't supply fish markets or supermarkets. this factory makes fish feed. fin nielson is the factory foreman. here's his specialty. here's our product dry fish public schools. ukrainian trash is have come to our land it's a threat to russia and its. crimea is a small republic and russia is a huge country and defend us. till all came to
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an end when the first moment of cocktail was thrown and our guys who stood there defending the law and order we believed a. grammy has never surrendered to anyone and it never will. this comes from the heart you know i've never even seen him in person for me this is the image of a hero the world's first coast everyone knows his name but few people ever knew the man was yuri gagarin's iconic first spaceflights the product of good fortune or destiny. was constantly fail to lend strictly he could see the grounds in school they started throwing punches at it what that was a turning point. in
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a. woman and children on the news knowing the close women he use is work with martin luther king said i have a dream obama is to tell me i have a daughter. and drones have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties that for the most part they have been very precise. six flights out. of this small body on the ground is a little girl and just next to her is a little boy of eight huge. we do some of her service also which on the contrary yes yes all the one that i can confirm that we are operating him in. afghanistan is the only other country that.
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has gas is still a country. and
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all the world champ nato. say sorry. the far riots in ukraine shows it's no in no mood for peace with one of its leaders a presidential candidate threatening to blow up a pipeline supplying a russian natural gas to europe. while in crimea people cast their vote on whether to remain part of ukraine or break away and asked to be reunited with moscow also in crimea. i see one rushing with my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one nine hundred forty s. and didn't ever since. parties camera crews search the province for russian troops and ten columns that the mainstream media and sister there but finds there are no word to be seen.
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watching are to international coming to you live from moscow i'm marina joshie welcome it to the program and we begin with breaking news the leader abhi crane's ultra nationalist group right sector dmitri has threatened to blow up a gas pipeline running from russia to europe through ukrainian territory he says this will happen if russian troops and your ukraine is running for president and the group he leads has become a tour years for its violent guerrilla tactics throughout the unrest in the country and its threats against nani grains a living there. because you know you put your love for. no one tells us when to bear arms and when not to you wasn't given to us and you won't take them away well now those clips including
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the group's promotional video are circulating online the right sector a may not be the big faction within the former opposition but it was add a fourth front of the uprising its man stormed and torched government buildings and attacked on armed police squads the also consistently rejected the concessions offered by the un a college administration when it was trying in vain to calm the unrest and now the right sector has become arguably one of the most influential groups in ukraine. well. the threats to blow up a pipeline that come on the heels of an attempt to sabotage a gas pumping station in crimea on saturday dozens of people who identify themselves as ukrainian border guard service forces tried to damage equipment at a station on the peninsula but crimea itself the fans units managed to thwart the attack all this comes as people in crimea flock to the polls for a referendum on their future status.
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now turnout has already exceeded fifty percent a majority in the region refuse to recognize the post-coup government in kiev and have two outcomes to choose from option one. crimea remains part of ukraine but with greater autonomy including separate citizenship and an independent legal system option to the peninsula is reunited with russia which it was a part of for centuries but that would of course have to be ratified by president putin fall asleep here is in the regional capital following the developments. well after six hours of voting nearly forty five percent of all crimea's have turned out to cast their ballot this is a remarkable figo back in two thousand and twelve during the last election the
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figure was some two to three times less the net so it gives you a sense of the historic importance that people here are placing on this referendum vote the mood is almost jovial there have been no real the courts of corruption or provocations and everything is running smoothly what you see behind me is a group of cars x. who have been securing this parliament building since the beginning of this week there have been no incidents here but certainly they don't want to take any chances at the same time the sense you get talking to people on the ground is akram mir is rejoining russia let's not forget that crimea was a part of russia for some two centuries it was given as a gift to the ukraine but people here have very strong historical and cultural links with russia so when i talk to people on the streets and i asked them how they feel about this referendum just about everyone tells me they will be voting to rejoin russia they do believe that the future lies in russia one of the questions i did pose to people on the streets was how do they feel about this current interim
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government in kiev and this is what they had to say. they are going to our mission will know where they all going to speak their they are awful one day i wrote this for you that all those people like you know that ukrainian leave but most of craniums as well as russians and europeans view them as nazi collaborators. the interim kiev government has six ministers including the deputy prime minister from the ultra nationalist far right svoboda party one m.p. from the party has already threatened russia with nuclear weapons if moscow does not cease to support the developments in crimea i. think our government long queue. it is not legal and sure is a power only not by desire of people as a cup jersey or power of buyers themself the forceful grab of power violent seizure
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of government buildings and nothing short of armed coupe that's how communes see recent events and here they strongly disagree that those protesting in the capital represented the majority of the country's population and refused to recognize the coming to authorities as legitimate. the. first thing the good government did when they came to power was to make a law cancelling the russian language obviously it created waves in the south east because that's a mostly russian speaking region it created a lot of anger but. ninety seven percent of crimea speak russian and the fact that one of the first actions was to strip the russian language of its official status could not leave people here in different russian has also disappeared from government websites there were also been cases of russian journalists being denied access to the country. but it brought us to you with the
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world when russia gave fifteen billion dollars it didn't put any conditions on ukraine it was for the ukrainians to decide how to use the money when europe gives money it immediately stipulates conditions to read a social benefits and to open the economy or to european products ukrainian products will stand up to competition from european products a view of the market like the partnership deal with the e.u. was seen as catastrophic yet from the unsaved now the west is promising economic aid through the international monetary fund but the assistance comes under the strictest of conditions and has already pushed other countries to the brink of collapse. some from upul crimea. well to discuss this i'm now joined live from london by british politician broadcaster george galloway george thank you so much of for joining us here on r t to discuss the situation well just a few hours ago it emerged that in fact there was a threat from coming from a leader of ukraine's far right group right sector who was threatening to blow up
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the pipeline that connects. the condenser russia and europe what do you make of this threat and in fact what message does it send across. well it's a very serious threat and they have the means and capability easily to carry it out so the west must be wondering at least if they have any sense just what kind of a frankenstein monster have the created in ukraine when day and cut it down funded fifty dollars a head per day the people who overthrew the elected government destroyed the constitution set fire to the government buildings killed a policeman but most of all look rather thrilling in western chancery unless they had read the novel frankenstein right to the end because if they had they'd know that the monster but dr frankenstein created quickly got out of control that's why it's called a monster and this monstrous right by the right sector is
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a very grave one for people in europe because at least a third of the european union gas supply is coming from russia and if the pipelines are blown up then we want to have it and then we'll be in very serious trouble indeed well speaking of which i mean what sort of reaction do you think might come from our europe to this threat as up until now i mean the west and the u.k. government are to have been reacting really to some harsh words coming out of key no they've ignored not just words but actions jewish leader was severely beaten and just yesterday by the openly anti semitic nazi forces that the west has been backing but that's because most of the population are not paying attention but they'll certainly appear tention if they turned. on
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and on there's no gus. it does move us into new territory dots undoubtedly true well as we speak mr galloway there is a referendum going on in crimea and the western leaders said that they will not recognize it as a legitimate however at this point we're hearing from foreign observers that everything is going according to international norms so what do you think will happen i mean will this be taken into account of the findings that common the assessment that come from international observers. well you know when you destroy the constitution as these who forces did in when you destroy the presidency destroyed buildings even of the presidency when you have what you call a revolution. all bets are off and when you cancel the russian language
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you can't expect an area where ninety seven percent of the people are russian speakers people who live in our country crimea which for centuries was a part of russia and was given away in a very capricious without consulting the people of crimea a tool by premier khrushchev at a time in my lifetime. then you must expect action and reaction is a democratic one the parliament voted overwhelmingly to hold a referendum the people appear to be voting overwhelmingly in the referendum and everyone should respect the result after all in september in scotland the rest of the people in the united kingdom will not be voting in a referendum but the scottish people will and the british government will have to recognise the result of that referendum there are many other examples i could give but i fasten on one the western countries my own
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included and did in the front right have been pushing every which way for the recognition of possible as an independent state even though it's in quite a state for a state that's entirely dependent on the international community and military and other funds to be regarded as an independent country because the people of kosovo want. to be an independent country but of course the rest of the territory in which possible lies namely the state of serbia don't want that but that hasn't stopped the west from recognizing cost of a quote unquote independence so it's absolutely hypocritical the stand that they are taking in the united nations they said that this referendum would be illegal because of the ukrainian constitution. but there is no ukrainian constitution it was ripped up by the pool which the western countries supported and why the crimean
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is not allowed to decide their future in an act of self-determination when the scottish people clearly are all right. british m.p. author and broadcaster george galloway think it so much for your insight welcome. while who of course be bringing you live updates on the situation in crimea as a referendum progress as an al gore spawns are stationed in each major city there bringing you the latest on air and online via the r.t. twitter feed and we're also following the developments across eastern ukraine and in kiev as well well this map right here shows the cities where r.t. has people on the ground keeping track of the latest developments there. the interview.
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welcome back you're watching martina national now for an international audience it can be hard to separate fact from fiction when it comes to crimea especially with western media reports over massive military movements on the peninsula russian military helicopters and planes are entry in ukraine and russian forces have seized crimea is airports the u.s. intelligence community and nato are urgently trying to figure out what the russians may do next. from ana to stand columns invading the province to russian troops storming ukrainian bases a constant flow of such reports have been appearing in the media ever since crimea made it clear that its loyalties did not why was he on the elected government in kenya are his right a cost or a break down the conflicting data for us. but what certain media is reverberates in
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with the notion of a massive russian invasion and crimea this week the self-proclaimed prime minister of ukraine writes the alarm over what he claimed were russian forces and his country. on the ground rushing to accept a bill in the twenty first century well that's what all screens like this one on c.n.n. have been showing yes those all russian tanks are right that could affect the location though because if they did that would see that it's actually four hundred fifty kilometers east of the ukrainian border and parts of russia's military drills but it's what about ukraine's well we went there to see if we can find any. well it wasn't easy i have to tell you but yes we admit we did find one german journalist mind you also writes for a census this reports when i traveled to crimea i expected to find what i saw on western t.v. back home images of the russians or machine invading ukraine and the total protest
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by western politicians claiming an invasion was taking place right in front of our eyes i confess i did see one russian tank with my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one nine hundred forty s. and didn't move ever since ok so no russian tanks but hold on a second there is talk of russian troops who are these people are they evil russian soldiers who have been flown in to capture crimea or at the very least sway crimean voters. our correspondents want to speak to them and find out who they truly are we are just people who feel. it's our duty to protect our native city i'm from several stores all myself spend my whole life year we maintain public order look out for any provocation to make sure nobody attacks journalists and the rest of the people. i represent the self-defense down for company one of ten companies formed on february twenty third insuperable to be my
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commander and here base the commander of the crimean front that's public group so we decided to act in these difficult times why do you think these are the russian military they are crimean crimean myself. must know that they are safe and protected and not by the military but by regular citizens like themselves ok i get to these guys are but white there's a whole russian military base there well yes russia is a black sea fleet is facing crimea under the over here and in fact it has been there for centuries under the terms of the lease and russia could actually send thousands of more but it hasn't and it's not a cheap deal either costing moscow ninety eight million dollars a year. we just don't bring the price with what it's you see what's going on in ukraine people are being killed but if you come to civil stop all you'll find peace and stability that's why
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we're here to make sure that. there's this foursomes russian of workers of all the military personnel stationed in the of course it's being used to undermine the truth i know would kind of media always being waged out of russia occupied this territory so it's nothing like that. well we tried really hard to find those russian crimea or at least heavily armed russian soldiers arts alas we failed but what we do know for a fact is that there is definitely strong support for becoming part of russia but are so exactly how many people feel that way well that's what the popular vote is for wearing a cost of artsy. well it's decision day not only for crimea the entire region of an alto best known for its main city venice is voting sunday on whether to go it alone polls show a majority of locals think they'll be better off as an independent state let's now discuss this with one of the people behind the session movement gianluca sato.
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thank you so much show mr general for joining us today to discuss this so why is it that we don't hear very much about this referendum thank you i think it is no. anywhere because. you know we. do sunday x.-press there is a. different interview to about the referendum and also yesterday on the scots. television there were many many news. in the world it is known that there is. to gain in the band. all right well you know looking at the polls in baghdad are sixty five percent and all of its citizens are believed to be in favor of independence what reaction will
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come from the italian government do you think. governor will let them go. i don't know how we can react. i think they are not so. happy because that is. we. are trying to billions of euros. doesn't dunk through torn on our land and so i think italian government is not so happy about a wheel of independence and the way this is a great majority i hope the referendum in these days a with can feel. these numbers and i hope. that many people are with to pull. the. i was there we see many many people
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who was booked for best friend and i think that italian government. has no voice in those rules about this because they will love them and people will be. all right stella got us out of think it's so much for abuse here in our international thank you now it's not just crimea were people who are unhappy with the new authorities in kiev the east of ukraine is getting increasingly restive people across those provinces have been holding anti-government protests for a couple of weeks now with calls for a crimea style referendum becoming more and more a frequent right o'neill reports from the city often ask. it's referendum day in crimea and i'm here in donetsk where thousands of people have already gathered in the main square to show support for what they're calling crimean is exercising
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their right to return back to russia now it's worth noting that yesterday saw some of the largest demonstrations here in the u.s. but thousands of people gathered here in opposition to the government and marched on the security services headquarters where they demanded a referendum of their own asking for autonomy from ukraine and there's also been violence between pro-create of on probation protesters which on thursday night resulted in the stabbing of one starving to death of one person after police felt keep them apart in coc of one of the east biggest cities two people killed in a nightclub she's right sector radicals opened fire on a group of grover should protesters and which chased to a right sensibility where the three modes of cocktails and fired shots from automatic rifles above just isn't enough propecia off sick people were carrying arms fascist placards demonstrating against the kiev government in the square and in lugansk a russian flag was held over the city hall now they've they've banned protests there now until the end of march so as the people in crimea continue to take to the
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polls it's uncertain how things will unravel here in the u.s. but so far people are quite confident the crimea is will vote to join russia and that they will get a referendum here for themselves. all that while in eastern ukraine civilian fans volunteers say they've stopped a military call that was moving towards the border with russia r.t. managed to speak with one of them. last night the donbass militia sora nami call them approaching we saw about fifteen to twenty armored vehicles we stopped them and the commanders told us they were on their way to military drills we realized that they were heading towards the russian border. we want peace not bloodshed between our nation this is so we politely asked them to turn back there were a couple of hours of negotiations but they agreed and left. now stay with us for all the latest on the rallies in eastern ukraine and the referendum in crimea we'll keep you posted throughout the day.
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and boyko hears from a russian foreign policy expert on whether the situation in crimea could spark a new cold war. if you leave them with economic ups and downs in the final months they would love the deal sang i and the rest of the life so in the case you will be every week
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hello and welcome to worlds apart residents of pioneer go to the polls today to choose which country they want to be a part of but the final decision on the status of the peninsula will most likely be made hundreds of miles away in moscow. ruffles and washington still reach an agreement in what has probably been the most fiery political force mature of the decade but to discuss that are now joined by me to cheney and the director of the carnegie moscow center mr training thank you very much for taking time to talk to us i just referred to the situation to the events in ukraine as a force majeure and in legal istic terms that means you know an unexpected disruptive round that allows a party to aggregate a contract and it seems that throughout this dispute all sides involved in it. broke the rules that they've previously held so dearly do you agree with this
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assessment well i think it's certain break in continuity i think that this closes the books on the what i would call into a cold war period i think this is the end of the twenty five year period that started with the fall of the berlin wall and now we're getting from it so it's hugh's very important. it has enormous consequences i don't think anyone planned it . but i believe that the actions of all the various parties collectively contributed to what we're seeing now but at the same time many of these actions have been quite contradictory because we know that russia has long been a defender a very avid founder of sovereignty and territorial integrity the west has long tried to promote and strengthen democratic institutions in this part of the world and it now seems that in ukraine everything has been turned upside down well i
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think in the end people have revealed one thing that they pursue their own interests the way they see those interests and i think that the west closed its eyes on a few things the circumstances of the ukrainian revolution the revolutionaries or some of the revolutionaries themselves the nothing the russia close the zone the principles that adhere to in the post cold war period or in the into cold war period if you look at both russian and western media they're full of conspiracy theories that for example in a putin concocted this whole instability it's you further he's in character aspirations and lay hands on crimea that the west third tension syria stablish yet another base in sebastopol and. i wonder if you believe that any of the sides could really plan or even anticipate what has already happened up until this point well i do not want to draw any direct lows but it's an it's an
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interesting. anyway this year marks the centennial of the first world war the first world war was not planned it was the actions of the various leaders monarchs presidents and others that contributed to the chain of events that led to the first world war and i would submit to you that this new cold war that's emerging i think is also the product of many actions not planned. the various earth as but collectively they contributed to this new situation of the international system at least in the your atlantic area i take it from your answer that you believe that the rands essentially took on the life of their own but i want to reach of the sides whether it is russia or the west which one of them handled the situation in a more pretty pragmatic way well frankly i think the last as president is and these are the ukraine sometime last year. i think it would have been more pragmatic for
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russia to let ukraine sign in the association agreement with the european union the consequences go through that he will. have its government removed. have no one helping them really in the west basically and then step forward as to say ukraine now this was never done another pragmatic step would be to let the european union modernize ukraine pump money into ukraine make it more civilised make it a safer place to do business and then profit from it well it's going to happen and you know your grandson will be here he was there is no yes but it's happening under conditions of a new cold war something like a new cold war between russia and the worst so i think that we're important the russians and ukrainians are one people this is not a problematic statement this is a statement of someone who believes in civilizational unity in.
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values that go beyond. pragmatist well but i think the other side meaning the west also believes in some values that go beyond pragmatism and they certainly you know boundaries of international law because i was not it was not criticism putin was i was describing not defending him either i'm just discussing the rhetoric there if we consider the actions by the west and you know this is the and the charge that roger put and has against their west that you know look at what you have done you had elections just around the corner in fact you supported this unconstitutional change of power you endorsed the forces that frankly you would never support in your own country what for that was the question that he had in his conference what for depends on what segments you're looking at the west is essentially far more pragmatic than the russians are on the average but i. i think that the problem with the west was that up to pretty late in the game european
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union did not know what it was signing up for this eastern partnership thing was a joke in many ways they just expect things to go smoothly and have it all for the peanuts of the six hundred million euros the united states was miles away literally from what was happening in ukraine and those visits by politicians etc to them i done which were played up in russia were actually in mud you just empty symbols you do not you do not put your money where your mouth is you just send out a few spears listen l.a. in all fairness it wasn't just you know a couple of visits to the central square of care there are also intercepted conversations there are also. new and also talking about. some of money being invested by the united states in propping the quote unquote ukrainian
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democracy so i think russia has good reasons to believe that the west was interfering a great deal in the ukraine affair. what i would like to ask you about is not about western interference by russia suppose it noninterference because liberia putin you know all through the later half of last year was saying that you know it's up to the ukrainian people to decide we are not going to send our ministers there and it looks like. you know his strategy changed almost overnight what do you think was that sea change that sort of pushed him a stride into action well i think that in two thousand and thirteen putin. did two things he was i think everyone was interfering and ukraine i think russia was interfering more passively than the west the west was more active in its interference but that was whole interference in months. now what russia did was the
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first to show the stick to the queen eons in the form of sanctions and admonitions what will happen if you sign on the dotted line and then it rolled out this aid package of fifteen billion long haired right a bunch of years exactly now i fully agree with you that russia's position changed virtually overnight and we can we know when it when it changed the night from the twenty first to the twenty second of february when the agreement between. the opposition with the european tours the witnesses whatever people say that they were very much on the side of the opposition i think that that's that's a correct statement. that this agreement was scrapped within hours. the people who stepped forward basically sent the mr joe the way to the kremlin that ukraine will not only walk away from russia it will be led by a very. russian leadership and this is what putin and this is what i think made
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him. shift gears in a most dramatic way and basically from being somewhat passive russia became within hours and i think that the plan that putin set in motion on the twenty second of bribery was the plan i think must have been prepared for the eventuality of those membership for ukraine i wonder if this type of thinking if this experience. would have fact writing a pretense thinking in the future because the way that some crime and officials describe it to me is that look we try to play by civilized western rules you know rules laid out by the west peaceful transition of power through democracy and we did our best but russia played by the rules of the west and only to see that the west would abandon those rules at the first opportunity isn't it something that could have fact. you know right imprudence policies in the future and you know
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fosters this already existing distrust towards western policies in this part of the world well i think. we are in uncharted waters this is a new bout of. i call it cold war that what i mean by that is that competition will far outweigh the cooperation between russia and the worst crossed i don't i don't see any trust at this point between russia and the west not at all want to have a zero i think the russia is seen. actions in crimea as unpredictable it's the worst cheating the. game. but it overturned the board and it put insist on the table this came as a surprise to a lot of people certainly came as a prize to me and i'm sure a lot of other people were surprised around the world so i think russia will be treated as. unpredictable unit on the international scene the west will be seen as
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an enemy he read it early enemy of russia. well we'll see what happens next now in putting these are in first on the table as you describe it putin may have lived up to the worst image of himself the image that is propagated in western media not only actually of himself but also fresh as this aggressive country and i think he tried really hard over the last couple of years to dispel this image he even said after the olympics that one of the reasons we wanted to have the games here in russia so that the world can see russia in a new light as an non-aggressive as a welcoming country and yet here he is you know threatening the use of force and living as i said to the worst image of russia do you think you had any other option to achieve russia's strategic objective could he. have done anything last than that to make sure that the west listens to russia's legitimate concerns here well i think it's a question that you should put to president putin. from
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a very much an outsider's view i would say that of course you after a certain point you do have options but after the president the there were two points of no return. one was when the president sought and received the we were thirty to use force in ukraine that was one thing that dispelled a lot of. myths whatever a lot of hopes about russia so russia was back as people have been accustomed to viewing russia historically and second when basically he sanctioned the. new wording of the questions in the referendum that included. secession from ukraine and the unification with russia those were two points of no return how do you know that he actually sanctioned that because the decision to become president putin is the master of the game nothing this is something that cannot happen.
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without the president cannot happen at all but if he's a man or a big game i'm sure he has some unpredictable you know cards on his sleeve i mean do you think you know nick tomorrow i think that now he can not. turning back will be betraying so many things turning back would be showing that he's afraid of western sanctions telling that would mean he's no longer master of the game mr chang and we have to take a very short break now but when we come back the pundits in both russia and the west are unanimous and that assertions that crimea rejoining russia already a done deal but is it really so while that's coming up in a few moments here on the well the part.
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ukrainian treasures have come to our land it's a threat to russia. i mean it is a small republican russia it is a huge country and defend us. the long came to an end when the first moment of cocktail was thrown in our guys who stood there defending the law and order and we believed a. great leader has never surrendered to anyone and it never will. we wanted to create a realistic movie that would represent like that with a case like this it really is.
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welcome back to worlds apart to rediscuss in the referendum in crimea with the director of the carnegie moscow center mr trannie and just before we went to break you seem to suggest you know moscow's control over crimea is already a fait accompli but i wonder if it's such a bad deal after all you know given what you mentioned the possibility of sanctions here also wrote about the prospect of the second cold war looming over us but if you take a historic perspective you have on the other side of the scale of russia having control regaining control of the territory that is so central to russia's entire statehood not to mention its security is it such a bad deal after all you know a couple of years of isolation on one side but on the other side having a territory that russia held for centuries well i don't think it would be correct just posing the question the way you posed it is
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a good deal good deal better or a bad deal i think it's a bad deal if you're talking in prague in pragmatic terms with we're no longer talking talking in pragmatic terms and in moscow certainly not in the kremlin i think. the people in charge starting with president putin and thinking in terms of. that reunification of part of the russian people with the rest of the russian people. and. so it's not a good deal the deal that says the right is the right decision that's how they see them sure you still believe that that is not a very pragmatic approach on their side on the part of the russians i wonder if you know our partners in the west as putin described them have been so pragmatic and to that effect i would like to quote something that i. saw on carnegie center website one of the commentators said that this didn't have. to be
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a zero sum game but somebody really wanted that to be and if we are in a recall the very black and white approach that the european union to come to this issue in the beginning of the crisis you know either you're with us or you're with russia was that a pragmatic path a reasonable path to follow and i think it was a foolish approach from. the european union. a role that the european union didn't know what was what it was stepping into. when they offered the association agreement of the depraved trade agreement with ukraine without backing it up with tons of money why do you think they did it i mean we're going to look for twenty russian nature well they thought i think that you can you can buy security on the cheap you can really do the thing that a country like ukraine has to be addressed more seriously than it actually was
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addressed in europe putin could've allowed the europeans to. do face up to their own bluff and step into the unknown and they still. continue. no no i think that it's different now. and will be support it will have to be supported by the west because. it's a new situation in which ukraine has become a tug of war between russia and the west. all eyes are on ukraine no one can afford to fail in ukraine to be defeated in your question so we'll see what happens well i heard the same sort of lines being being spoken with regards to libya with regards to syria and with regards to many other countries and obviously they're all very far away but it would be i guess a great tragedy for all of us to witness something like that happening in ukraine
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which i think actually could be possible and here i would like to refer to your own writing because you recently wrote in one of your recent articles that one of the most worrisome by products of the ukrainian revolution is the fact that there are now far more advanced weaponry in the hands of non-state actors in the ukraine than at any other point in its post soviet history and i think that's a direct result of western support of the opposition those far right groups were emboldened by the western support. to seize arms but i wonder why would your of so nonchalant about that. in case of ukraine because ukraine is right on russia's borders but it's also right on european borders and when you have you know a bunch of guys running around with weapons it's not only a proliferation issue it is also a major security issue speaking about buying security on the cheap it's you know it
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could be pretty expensive you know it could be pretty expensive i agree. i think. there are many of people who. guilty for creating the situation that exists today you mention the far right parties the far right parties as we all know were. pretty much supported by the uncle that you'd ministration in the early stages everyone is just another head of the dragons same the same bad guy as as the rest of them but as a result dragon was forced to behave in the now so although. this was an exhilarating point the main point is the agree that it's pretty scary that you have heard so many weapons in so many hands i think what they're trying to do now is is attempting to integrate those. formations that used to be the fighting force of the my gun into the national guard and they're
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trying to get some measure of control over those people but to what extent will be successful we'll see so nothing good is come out of this i mean no one should be jubilant but the biggest security concern right now is that. we may be a shot or two away from a conflict with the ukrainian military force and well speaking of which just a couple of days ago large or near putin called for snap military drills on the border with ukraine are those exercises as far as i understand understand are already over but russia denies having regular army in crimea i think what russian officials don't deny is that they have contacts with paramilitary forces on the ground in crimea and i wonder if russia isn't really falling behind here because those forces only appear there after the events in kiev and if we take stock of what actually happened in kiev as you mentioned armed groups are not only with
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weapons but also with very extreme far right ideology people who would starve before probably. and nothing to achieve their goals and we all heard about the possibility of them killing peaceful protesters for the sake of creating this media opera so you know i wonder if. it isn't really using old school matters here you know threatening the use of military force when what you're dealing with really is something far more. dangerous and far more difficult to control because if you have these groups who respond to no one i guess you can't really deal with with traditional military force well i think. you know you will question. have you looked at those soldiers that took control of the airport while i haven't been to ground here is that you haven't seen the images do
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they look like self-defense force well i think you know i think if this were all very. early years you know you may give no answer i will have to give you an answer served in the military for a long time they look to me like very well disciplined very professional very serious force. no self-defense force no please list put this nonsense to one place what russia did i think was to engage in prevention to. to prevent the things that you were talking about right and in order to do that you do not fool around with a self-defense force you do not fool around with the you know ragtag formation of russian speakers that you assemble in a couple of days and give them a couple of rifles and you know send to defend their peninsula no you send a very professional force you do that and they do the stuff that you want them to do they take control of the of the government buildings that they control of the
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air force of the airports they block the port of as a vaster paul they make sure that no one gets into an essentially what you're saying that whoever these forces really are they did the right thing because they know they did things according to plan and that was in my view a contingency plan it was not. in a couple of days' time and it's a military contingency that exists for all the they say we're going to give it credit i mean given a lot of your position it was done brilliantly but not always a fashion and we also politically and strategically look at what happened in kiev all those corpses. and so far what we have seen increasingly. you said that putin changed his policy on ukraine dramatically the night of the twenty second of february he saw this threat that you're talking about he's sure the. of ukraine been ruled by a very mentally and russian both russian domestically and russian geo politically
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forces and he decided that this is the this is the time for contingencies and he pressed the button and what happened did happen and then he received the authority to use military force anyway and ukraine to skeer to determine this is sheer the terms you don't need to actually use military force in order to be able to use a political observer i guess what i'm driving at is that rather than being an act of aggression and unprovoked i'm already not talking about aggression list discuss this let's let's just say that aggression is something that is defined but aggression by the united states security nations security council which means that neither the united states nor russia can ever be branded an aggressor because the country in question will never agree to call itself an aggressor so call it something else call it an invasion call it whatever but that was an operation what i'm worried about frankly is that having performed an operation in crimea having
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performed it well. we still don't have a general strategy we don't have a war plan we have a plan well again when i was sure i mean half of you have. when you're in didn't even expect that what is going to happen there two months ago and can i am pretty you exactly what i just said i think all sides in this conflict well if this russia and the west would give a large to sort of rewind the situation back a couple of months and you know take stock of what happened and try not to make some of the mistakes that each one of them made do you think there is any lesson larger geopolitical lesson that could be learned from this extraordinary situation extraordinary because it develops so rapidly and because it has it can potentially have such significant geopolitical consequences. see this the second world war happened because of the mistakes that were made. at the end of the first war and
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between the two wars. the second cold war is emerging because of the mistakes that were done at the end of the first cold war and during the into a cold war period right and those mistakes were made by both russia and the west some of the mistakes you would call them mistakes other things were unavoidable consequences of of just the west being the west russia being russia but certainly one of the big things that both sides failed to do was to find a proper way to include russia in the security community within the year atlantic included in such a way that it would feel comfortable with them that. system and others would feel comfortable about it and like in all international relations they can be you know side that's fully fully completely right and no said that's fully and completely
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wrong but there are always mistakes to be learnt but as they say history never repeats itself but it rhymes absolutely well mr turner and this is only have time for i thank you very much for telling part of the show and our viewers please keep the conversation going on on twitter you tube and facebook pages and hope to see you again think way same time here it was. written this comes from the heart you know i've never even seen him in person. this is the image of a hero the world's first coast everyone knows his name but few people ever knew the
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the far right in ukraine shows its no mood for peace with one of its leaders a presidential candidate threatening to blow up a pipeline supplying russian and natural gas to europe. civilian activists say they have stopped a granny in military convoy heading toward the russian border. crimea people cast their votes on whether to remain part of ukraine or break away and ask to be reunited with also in crimea today. i didn't see one russian tank with my own eyes but this war machine has been here since the one nine hundred forty s. and didn't ever since camera crews searched the province for russian troops and tan color that the mainstream media insists are there.

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