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if you care about humans this. is why you should care only. crimea has formally asked russia to be part of the country that after a region wide referendum showed overwhelming support to break away from the. justification of u.s. foreign policy it is because we say. western nations refuse to acknowledge the will of the crimean people condemning the vote as illegal. but this is the demonstrators take to the streets in major cities across the east of ukraine they reject the self-proclaimed government and demand independence from kiev. and ukrainian army units to spot it moving towards russia's border that is far right radical leaders in kiev threaten to use everything from a nuclear arsenal to terror attacks on gas pipelines.
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they are watching r.t. international with me and tree farm. now the people of crimea have voted overwhelmingly in favor of joining russia in sunday's referendum over ninety six percent want their region to become part of russia about two percent voted to stay in ukraine the rest of the ballots were spoiled or otherwise found invalid that with an unprecedented turnout of more than eighty three percent local authorities have now declared independence from ukraine and submitted an official request for russia to accept the region as part of the country. is in crimea. there is a cheerful almost faced of mood here in the service to poll the same as being experienced in some for apple and other major cities and centers across crimea where the overwhelming majority of people have voted to join russia right now there
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are cars going down the main roads they have russian flags waving out of their windows there are people walking around with the russian flag draped over them and speaking to one woman she told me that she feels like she's going home another man telling me that he is russian in his soul saying that people here have always dreamed of being reunited with russia and today that reality is coming true so certainly a great excitement here in crimea we're also hearing praise from the international observers who say that the vote went off smoothly there were no hiccups and noble ports of violations or any kind of wrongdoing referendum has been organized quite professionally it was organized according to most basic and most important international standards over the day i was ever in different places in simferopol in sevastopol it was a democratic choice and then the story called choice for the people or it was
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a very peaceful day people voted to massively. western nations dubbed the referendum illegal as soon it was announced as soon as it was announced and one of the reasons is the alleged military pressure on crimea international affairs expert mark sloboda from the moscow state university told me that that position is simply hypocritical. if this were true certainly none of the decisions of the sport's rada that has occupied key have under siege and occupied by a violent ultra nationalist mob and paramilitaries would be illegitimate neither would any elections in iraq after the us invasion and occupation afghanistan grenada libya etc. there was absolutely no violence there was no visible guns on the street the local population quite obviously approved of the presence
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of the self-defense units and other russian related forces that were on hand to secure the borders of the crimea and allow this vote to take place so we can only regard this argument by the the west as complete double standard hypocritical and invalid. when internet people called for an independent referendum of their own they also demanded the immediate release of the people's governor a representative they elected for the protest movement against kiev he was arrested and taken to the capital. crimes broke into the prosecutor general's offices the police fell back almost with that find. another mass protest took place in the city of despite a court order banning demonstrations there are several thousand strong rally demanded a popular vote in the region status activists gathered in front of the russian consulate and asked moscow to help protect their interests. also
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civilian defense volunteers in donetsk region say they intercepted and stopped a ukrainian army convoy the vehicles were heading east towards the border with russia is ryan o'neal reports. but tensions have taken a sinister turn here in donetsk following sunday's referendum after reports of emerged that activists stopped military movements of soldiers and equipment from ukraine moving towards the russian border here activists from the self-defense groups apparently blocked about twenty trucks that were carrying soldiers as well as military equipment including regular and airborne military vehicles who he said should really sore about fifteen to twenty armored vehicles we stopped them in the commanders told us they were on their way to military drills but we realized that they were heading towards the russian border we politely asked them to turn back there were a couple of hours of negotiations with the agreed unless it will work this is going to help also in neighboring lugansk locals blocked railway lines with scrap metal
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and carriages to stop the transportation on a train of a large military equipment including tanks now the locals here have been told that all of this equipment is part of a planned military training exercises but there are still reports circulating that there are other military vehicles that have in fact made their way to the russian border there is also a growing suspicion amongst the locals here that these military movements imply that kiev is trying to provoke the population here rob and try and calm what is already a very tense situation in the region so with these suspicions along with plan demonstrations across the region that will take part from the week only adding to what is a very intense situation here in the east of ukraine. having already threatened to restock ukraine's nuclear arsenal ultranationalists and i calling to blow up the gas pipeline supplying europe leading the cold is the neo fascist right sector which along with other nationalist groups has taken high ranking posts new cranes new government. going off reports. with tensions between moscow and kiev
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ukraine's right wing radicals have been pouring even more fuel on the fire. russia is making money by supplying oil and gas to the west through our pipeline so we'll destroy it dmitri yanna she is the leader of ukraine's ultra nationalist movement the right sector which was among the main engines that drove february's violence in kiev only got on the flight and i would say it's not enough even though i felt like a cable something else. the new authorities are viewed as a legitimate government by the west and that's despite all the firearms molotov cocktails deaths and the fact that the uprising brought a wave of far right extremist power here and weeks conversation also suggest that someone from the new government was behind the snipers fired on both protesters and police in the capital that must have all looked rather thrilling in western chance
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of race unless they had read the novel frankenstein because if they had they'd known that the monster dr frankenstein created quickly got out of control and this monstrous threat by the right sector is a very grave one for people in europe because at least a third of the european union's gas supply is coming from russia. even before threatening to blow up the pipeline yet it should already been placed on the international wanted list by moscow for making any other menacing statement. key publicly called on chechen terrorists have to launch attacks on russia after earth used to recognize kiev's new authority so. the islamist leader omar of also known as the russian bin laden took responsibility for various attacks on of the east and civil unions including the two thousand and ten moscow metro and
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the two thousand and eleven the muddier interaction airport bombings over seventy people were killed in these two attacks but cutting off europe from energy supplies and calling on terrorists to attack russia was enough. once we restart our nuclear arsenal it will be a very different conversation a rather deputy from the sub or the party said it would take you have less than a year to build up the nuclear arsenal we need to see responsibility from the leader well palace now to look at what's happening in ukraine to look at the changes that went on and to really focus on the seriousness of the of the problem now with this ultra nationalists in power in the equator and the dangers that they pose to the not just to the region but to europe as a whole it's hard to predict what sort of threats may come from the new political elite in ukraine but what's clear so far neither their words nor their needs that had any impact on the foreign political support in the west you've got this going
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on r.g.p. moscow. so we've heard the nuclear weapons threat from ukrainian politicians but are they really phase the ball we've been putting together some facts on the country's nuclear capabilities and his what we found a whole half of ukraine's energy comes from nuclear power so it's certainly got the know how unfortunately for kiev all of its fuel is bought from russia and it has no way of enriching uranium to weapons. wait on the other hand if it really wants to it could take a reactor waste to make a dirty bomb but by doing this ukraine would not only be breaking its international commitments but also its own constitution which forbids nuclear weapons as for delivery vehicles a nuclear payload can be filled in a simple artillery shell or a rocket but can it all be done in three to six months the answer is yes a so-called dirty bomb can be put together in that timeframe so that in turn this race acuity concerns over the safety of the country's nuclear facilities here on
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this map we've marked just some of the sites and there's quite a lot to look out for they include atomic power stations uranium processing plants research reactors and specialized factories and any of them it's feared could become a target of the right wing militia that's active in ukraine. meanwhile ukraine's new prime minister vowed that the earth will burn under the feet of separatists. ukraine will find all those responsible for instigating separatism we will find them in a year or two and place the mood on trial the very ground will burn beneath their feet there will be no place on earth where they will feel safe and the russians will not protect them. he also claimed that despite its grave economic state ukraine needs to raise its military budget ten fold and to fund that the country which is on the verge of bankruptcy will have to cut everything from pensions their
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health care spending here is currently one hundred forty billion dollars in debt and at serious risk of default. but over the next three months one support group military spending to the tune of seven hundred million dollars and what makes it all the more strange is the massive cuts to welfare and pensions due to hit ukraine the government's admitted the treasury is empty and that average pensions could be slashed a half its current rate of one hundred sixty dollars a month. the european union has. rejected the crimean referendum with various ministers adding the result is automatically illegitimate in this r.t. sarah firth tells us talk in europe is now focused on sanctions. well after all that celebrating the referendum results in quite near last night's today comes the referendum hang over if you like because the e.u. have condemned the referendum as illegal and said that they won't recognize the
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outcome of the european ministers are going to be meeting today to discuss the sanctions now we've already had talks of possible travel bans and asset freezes but really the focus now is going to be on exactly how far these sanctions will go and there are going to be some who will be pushing for much broader sanctions than others as they gather around that table to discuss that remember many of these two european countries about eighty ninety percent of their energy resource coming from russia the city of london to of course very tight financial connections lots of russian investment so all of that i think they will be bearing in mind and indeed the constant talk of the escalation that's going to very much as well be at the forefront of their minds i think when they decide exactly what these sanctions will be of but of course more importantly just how far reaching and wide the sanctions will go. the united states' position on crimea all but mirrors that of the european union and the white house has issued numerous statements found to reject. top u.s.
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senators are currently in ukraine with senator john mccain calling for the united states supplied with lethal weaponry and as for why america has been has been saying set against the referendum serbian political analyst and bush in mileage off of this his opinion debate or justification of u.s. foreign policy is because we say so there's really no guiding principle to it the only guiding principle is that is the power of washington you had to have violent jihad ists in syria you had al qaida in syria openly backed by the us government which is supposedly at war with al qaeda and has been ever since two thousand one hundred your score that simply because those rebels in syria as it were were serving the interests of washington at a given time same thing in ukraine nazis great we can work with nazis as long as it accomplishes our purpose it doesn't matter who these people are we'll call them something else we'll get the media to spin it or something else will call it russian propaganda again it doesn't matter who you are and what you're doing as long as you're serving the interests of washington well the question facing western
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leaders now is how to punish russia without hurting themselves economically artie's marina cassette of explains. the west is eager to punish russia by introducing sanctions but who not really heard well let's take a look here is the amount of bilateral trade between russia and the e.u. depending on the type of sanctions europe could stand to lose hundreds of billions of euros money they will have to find elsewhere now more in detail when it comes to france it stands to earn one billion dollars for two mistral class helicopter carriers what sacrifice is this on behalf of an unreliable government in kiev then if we take a look at the automotive sector russia is europe's biggest clients and of course let's not forget about the gas markets europe does have other options but not enough time or money so explore those alternatives also russians are renowned around the world for being very generous to her they spend a lot of money on holidays if europe does go ahead with any visa restrictions will
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it be able to afford the losses and then what about london's property market now as we can see here as we're about to see there we go ninety percent of why real estate there is bought by russians we also inject seventy million euros a year into the u.k. economy intuition fees alone is the u.k. really ready to fill that void which will no doubt leave a massive hole in the state budget now politicians are always good when it comes to words but here's the numbers that counts and as we can see there will be many minuses if these sanctions are indeed introduced and even though the ultimate goal is to hurt russia in minds very well backfire against them during a concert of artsy. former diplomat and a spokesman for india's prime minister explained why the e.u. and the us will eventually have to reckon with russia the united states has followed up policy of strategic containment of russia therefore to go out that ukraine is
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a multi-religious multiethnic society primarily multi-ethnic and that the real power lies in the eastern areas of ukraine especially the industrial border in russia secondly the ukrainians want reason winter without russian gas totally the west does not have the money for food be allowed to ukraine so i think what is going to happen is that you can make their symbolic sanctions but at some stage or the other they'll have to get into negotiations with russia. let's go back to our top story now crimea has declared independence from kiev after sunday's referendum showed almost ninety seven percent of the population voted to join russia for the latest we can now talk to r.t. he's watching developments and so vast the poll. what are the next steps for crimea . while crimea has officially declared independence from ukraine prior to this referendum the crimean poll photius did say that if the overwhelming majority votes
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in favor of joining russia they would go this route right now a crimean delegation is on its way to moscow with crimean authorities having this to say. to me you're almost cool so we go to moscow to do the we are currently thinking about the best way of getting our delegation here and we'll have a meeting with the state duma. and we will consider the crimea joining russia is one of its territory is most probably will have a joint session of this matter is critically under consideration. the ukrainian parliament has issued a formal request to the russian parliament to take them in and the russian state duma is due to meet on friday to discuss this the russian president vladimir putin will also need to sign off on. ok thanks paula that's artie's live from crimea. will continue our coverage of developments in ukraine next hour meanwhile
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there's some other headline news for you after this short break. funding social groups or organizations that are same thing as funding a revolution well of course if they're tossing molotov cocktails and not having a peaceful and and what i would say i intellectually dialogue you know using communications and paper and creating you know what i would say town halls and having discussions that is funding a revolution if you cite in violence and. basically the money's going to organizations that may incite violence against the standing government you know that is inciting your evolution and i think it's illegal.
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join me. in that in part and financial support contributes and much much. only on us and. hello again one of reaching this is almost i started focusing on independence in the very heart of the year the italian province of finito is seeking to break away from running but unlike crimea referendum and the struggle hasn't captured the attention of europe a. it's actually a quite a major development in europe or in european politics but how many people here in europe for example here in berlin actually know about it but if you mean the
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independence of crimea no easily. no i haven't heard about it. have you heard of an independence referendum invented so italy. that no i haven't heard anything about it absolutely nothing there's. no i haven't seen t.v. in the last twenty four hours because i know unfortunately no the region of venezuela once just to see it from its elite european union and me tell people there are saying that there is simply not happy with the way that they are essentially paying for italy's financial woes if the region doesn't see it from italy it could mean a major historical development for europe well finito is one of the biggest and wealthiest provinces in italy with a population of more than five million people and one of the main reasons for the vote is that the region he's tired of the backbreaking burden of taxes imposed by rome surveys have shown up to sixty five percent are in favor of
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a sovereign venita but it's lee has proclaimed the ballot illegal despite that one of those behind the succession movement thinks rome has no other option but to let die there is the absolute majority of people vote yes this will be legitimized the delegates will be elected by this referendum to take immediate action i've seen already that draft over the curation of independence scholars working on it and it's almost and we presented at the end of them are also a draft of the constitution and the business community they are just waiting to be legitimized by popular vote to stop paying taxes to the. from international news in brief now soldiers in venezuela have stormed a central square in caracas that anti-government demonstrators have turned into their stronghold troops use tear gas and water cannon on the crowd which responded
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with rocks and molotov cocktails this follows president earlier threat to use force to clear public areas occupied by demonstrators north korea has launched twenty five short range rockets into the same protest against ongoing u.s. south korean military drills such artillery tests usually considered retained and not compared to a long range rocket or nuclear test internationally view as provocations a recent flexing of military muscle took place moments before a chinese with two hundred two people on board and to the same a space. more than a hundred people have been killed in attacks on three villages in central nigeria the assaults are linked to disputes between ethnic groups is the area often witnesses conflicts over land and religion sectarian flare ups between muslims and christians in the african nation have left hundreds dead in recent years. the twenty fourteen sochi winter paralympics came to an end on sunday with
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a spectacular show the fish stadium in team russia topped the most or stable with a record haul with more on that his legs and friends this is the culmination of the festivities here in saatchi and what week and more of festivities it's bad the home team has broken a very important record it was a record set back in one thousand nine hundred four by austria which took home seventeen medals while team russia is taking home eighty that's thirty gold twenty eight silver and twenty two bronze it's also worth mentioning that as of today team russia skier romantic to scoff has officially taken home six paralympic gold medals he now holds the title for that everything has gone off very well here and saatchi from the weather holding nice and bright to the organizational facilities surrounding all of the competitions and the festivities of course i'll take my word
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for it let's listen to the athletes and the spectators because it was phenomenal it was great. racing it was extremely low but these are. adults are really. a lot of the there's an over hundreds of here because it's just amazing to believe this. to have such an emotional. there didn't have any additional security and all the people are very obvious to be . this isn't just about taking home the medals this is also about a legacy that the paralympics are leaving here in russia and it's that of beating out for a city and ending up on top. coming up makes it so our interview show suffered.
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i don't want to beat a dead horse i try to address these opinion pieces but you created melt out hits really close to my heart and affects people i know when i see obama gleefully talking to self elected new ukrainian prime minister just burns the inside of my brain he's throwing hypocrisy gasoline on my fire of contempt not only did the leak phone call from the estonian defense minister claim that the kiev opposition used against both sides but now the former ukrainian chief of security confirmed that the sniper fire came from a building under the control of the protesters at that time also the alliance currently in power in kiev glorified out see germany and you slogans like putting jews and russians to the knife so america's first black president a nobel peace prize winner who was elected by waves of tolerant optimistic lefty liberals is smiling and chatting with a leader who is supported by white power right winger groups that use the murder of
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their own members to oust a democratically elected government there william nightmare is now my friends but that's just my opinion. it's a. very hard to take. that back with me here. it will end
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. up a little. the population of crimea votes to decide its legal right of self-determination how did it come to this is it because of the western backed coup that is brought fascist to power or nato sweetland which drive east because all of this is a sideshow to undermine russia's legitimate security. we wanted to create a realistic global that would represent life that we had to pay to live as it really is. there's an accident route six.
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what can be more wonderful than this the whole thing is a model. of. welcome to says and go on sophie shevardnadze but years in a rush to sign the long awaited association deal with ukraine while the new leaders in kiev are turning to washington for advice those interests were at stake in ukraine's revolution while our guest today is former heroes intelligence officer scott rickard. a full blown war of the streets
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of ukraine's capital the elected president forced into exile. all too familiar scenes of a bloody revolution cheered by western politicians but what's in it for them is the will of the people behind my duns victory in kiev. or rather there's strings attached to the revolution of euphoria. right scott rickard former us intelligence officer is with us today it's great to have you with us now i know that you have said the united states government has been preparing the revolution in ukraine for ears invested five billion dollars so far and their pricing where are you getting this information gigi you have a proof that that's the case well it's public information and you have the folks at the national endowment of democracy who have been doing this the unfortunate overthrow of your grandfather you know the rose revolution there were thousand least a thousand n.g.o.s operating in georgia at the time in the early two thousand that
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were you know very responsible for the opposition movements that happened in georgia and this is been a color revolutions that started pretty much alongside of george soros and all of the other folks that have been involved along the way it's something that's become sort of status quo with american manipulation of foreign governments but it's not something that comes as a surprise to me. right but so you mentioned georgia and there are. ten years ago approximately and back then that seriously there was a lot of talk about america and george soros in particular funding them and he didn't deny actually doing that but what about now would you say to exactly the same thing is taking place because many people now argue that it's not the case this time. oh it's absolutely the same thing us aid is implicated here.
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is implicated you've got the national endowment for democracy has over fifty and geos operating there now. you also have the ties in to. and you know the the tories bosses of bosses mogul levitch who has been a sidekick for the american government you know since the preceding the the wars against russia and afghanistan. was a huge. supplier of weapons and was a huge supporter of american aggression against russia in afghanistan in the eighty's so he had mentioned pierre omidyar is the founder of e-bay and also george soros so when we talk about the big cap itself and be capsule players or talk about private business who are so spending their money on revolution as you put it what's in it for them. well most of the money is coming from usaid and geos and the n.g.o.s are actually funded by the government the u.s.
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government actually funds the national endowment for democracy and a lot of these folks are really closely tied to. that work for nixon back in the late sixty's and who created this organization and cushman now who heads the national endowment for democracy is you know yet another protege of that whole shackman i issues and you don't have to look very far into the crane the most powerful most well known foreigner in the ukraine today is yak off like a rabbi bligh is the the number one guy that they go to to get information the state department about what's going on with the government in the ukraine he's been there for fifteen years and even john kerry on his last visit had a prior private meeting with the rabbi and the rabbis tied directly into these sort of national endowment for democracy organizations funding social groups or organizations such as same thing as time being
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a revolution. well of course if they're tossing molotov cocktails and not having a peaceful and and what i would say intellectual dialogue you know using communications and paper and creating you know what i would say you know town halls and having discussions you know that is funding a revolution if you're citing violence and. basically the money's going to organizations that may incite violence against the standing government you know that is inside of your evolution and i think it's illegal by international crimes by by far it's what we've done it the u.s. has done it in half a dozen nations in the last ten years these are things the revolutions that you mentioned the rose revolution in georgia the orange revolution in ukraine the revolution that took place or is taking place right now in ukraine many would tell you that there was are also besides everything else a result of acute social protest i mean surely you can't deny
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popular discontent even russian presidents at the grievances of the people on my gun are justified to an extent. salut agree you know the popular discontent is one thing you know but you know throwing thousands of moloch bills is a completely different thing you know put yourself in the united states if we had a foreign government funding five billion dollars to canada or mexico and maybe a former state that seceded and then those people in those protests you know were throwing molotov cocktails at government facilities i can guarantee you they would not show near as much constraint as the ukrainian government and the russian governments have shown it's got the violence that broke out in kiev here saying that was also planned or get things just simply get out of control. well you know
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it's saying things are planned or gotten out of control you know it's a fine line you know there are individuals who are very well trained the these n.g.o.s operate on every level they operate on the peaceful side and they also operate on the violent side i mean it's pretty clear that the americans have been wildly successful around militarizing jihad and violence and any kind of operations you know even graham fuller who was very instrumental in overthrowing the. government in the form of some of the former soviet states prior to the two thousand timeframe at this with you and the really the demise of the former soviet states these guys were very calculated about working with violent organizations to create operatives ngs and you know israel was meddling also in georgia and you know the u.s.
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almost went to war because of you know senators like john mccain and that's these are situations that continue and you know nobody's really held accountable because the kind of rhetoric that's played out in the news is pretty much propaganda and that's not that's not that's putting it lightly. what cantor has on his hands right now as a burgeoning black market of firearms in kiev is do you see that as becoming to say that becoming serious problem. well of course i mean any time that you have. police society and you begin the chaos it's much easier because the patrols are less likely it's much easier people to smuggle things in and out of places i mean just look for the last three years in syria how successful that the foreign intelligence operatives and the mercenaries that have been operating there have basically destroyed syria. by the hands of foreigners and this is what will
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be in store for ukraine if the russians don't protect the sovereignty of that nation from the foreign interventionists but if you look at things generally do you think all this other protests going on right now in the world because there are many of them there's a civil unrest in turkey there is a lot going on in thailand and bosnia-herzegovina is there a force behind them is it the same forest or are they different players involved. well you know obviously the times that we're going through now and the kinds of austerity that the european union's gone through specifically greece which is you know they've had probably the worst of the worst and then you have the you know what's happening in the ukraine with austerity measures you know people start suffering from an economic explosion that really is in the opposite direction we're looking at you know times like leading up to world war one world war two there was
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a lot of economic. despair and these are the kinds of things we're seeing today because the immensely inflated economic environment that's been created by the world bank and the i.m.f. and all the regular suspects that have you know created a false market a false narrative a round you know they didn't mess the products in one country versus the domestic products and the other and that's why you've got countries like ukraine where the. income in ukraine is this disparity comparatively to the united states is almost ten to one so that's the kind of thing that people are dealing with in developed nations and i think that's the kind of thing that they're uprising against their governments because some of the governments are corrupt and you know the people are noticing it now is it induced obviously it is induced when it's in the best interest of the united states and it's very clear that the united states as spent billions of dollars on this over the past. say least two to three
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did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open process is critical to our democracy. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and our. we've been hijacked like handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our opponents fathers. i'm sorry mark and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem. rational debate real discussion critical issues facing. are ready to join the movement then welcome to it.
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and we were at was scott recurs x. u.s. intelligence officer it's good to have you back with us on the show now apart from establishing and nato presence in ukraine do you see any other reasons for the u.s. involvement in that country well it's also economic and it's militarily strategic you know can you imagine if the americans took over the ports in crimea and also can you imagine the kinds of revenue that they would be able to generate from the gas and the pipelines just as they've done through. georgia as well as in. chechnya these are these are you know these are business individuals who understand. in the economics of doing business just like they did
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with the oligarchy under under gorbachev many people made money during their claws in those period and they stole a lot of the wealth from russia during that period when gorbachev and your grandfather you were working closely with the west so there was a time at which you obviously some oligarchy came to power and some were more honest than others and you have that same sort of effect that will happen in ukraine because ukraine has you know a lot of great resources and as well it has a good it is the transit lines for a lot of the fuel going to europe and that is the main income that's helped russia bounce back you know three times russia has had to bounce back recently from the the kinds of impact that the west has ganged up on russia and that. it's a five times if you include you know world war one and two and actually the bolshevik move it move it as well so the russians have really had to play come back
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many times to when they've been ganged up by sort of the nato alliance because that alliance has been there for quite some time well but there's a that's going on right now ukrainians are saying the interim government say blame us for wanting to be a part of nato what about you do you understand why they want to part of nato of course i mean you look at the way that ukraine is broken up today there's really only about fifteen to twenty percent russians in the major ukraine and about probably sixty percent maybe seventy percent in crimea as predominantly craney and you have a lot of folks there who you know were very anti russian because of the terrible things that stalin did and then you obviously you have the folks that were taken out of the area during world war two because they sided with adolf hitler's third reich. there's a lot of different factions and on the west side you know it's mostly agriculture
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and on the side it's mostly industrial so most of them most of the actual financial gains will come from the east and most of the agricultural gains to come from the west and that the same time you know that's a much predominantly craney and society and there is a form of nationality that i can understand you know why they might want to have a but i think what you're what you run into is that they fall into the trap you know the european union can't handle another boat anchor you know they don't need another failed economy you know they're failing already and it certainly is strategically from a military perspective and from nato as perspective they've been peeling off former soviet state after former soviet state after they promised not to do so so i think it's not in a safe that means that you know that sounds well if european union can't give them anything as you're saying what can nato get them that's that's what nato gives every country they give them they give a massive amounts of financing they got
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a lot of the financing infrastructure behind it and you know they'll they'll create a lot of jobs around just the administration of you know that kind of activity i mean look at the announcement in january making lithuania one of the leadership roles in the strategic alliance in nato so you know they're moving you know closer and closer to the cusp of and there's a lot of money that comes with that you know there's a lot of maintenance of military infrastructure air bases so you're saying. if you cranes with my mean price tag that we're saying oh absolutely nato doesn't just expect you to invest your money i bet they nato is very complimentary when it comes to helping their their allied partners and their and their infrastructure needs and that you know includes everything from you know roads everything from you know fuel . you know it is a strategic military initiative so. if what you're saying is the case then they
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will really be one hundred percent positive development for ukraine to be part of nato i'm not saying for russia i'm saying for ukraine well i wouldn't say that either i mean so let's say that nato does want to come in and be you know they're also going to have to pay debts to their their their their masters so they'll bring the banking system with them and you know it's very evident that very few of the the new as well as the existing european union economies because nato won't come in you know as a as a state run only european union will have to come alongside it and so you don't really have you will have some financial gain but it won't be the kind of financial gain that will satisfy all your craniums it will satisfy a fortune of the ukrainians that are siding with the with the nato alliance the new
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interim prime minister as it's a new has been saying obama in a white house lately do you think you can count on unconditional help from the united states. sadly i think the americans are going to have to foot this bill there is no way that the european union is going to be calle to come up with that kind of funding you know the russians had already offered thirty billion and that was probably the best deal that they were going to get and they are claiming they're backpedaling even john holzman said in the last weeks interview that you did you know that that they were playing. honestly or they were just or being a serious enough but the fact is that they just can't afford it new european union so the americans will end up footing the bill with an economy that's totally busted anyway it's the only reason it's still alive is because the they were granted global currency rights by the british empire when the after the bretton woods conference but it's it's a total farce at this point because it's all basically paper money that doesn't
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really exist in this world so you know it's just just adding another piece of debt to the american. fallacy of an economy and i would be honest with you i would think ukraine should be able to see through this and work through this that actually use their industry and create their own economy and stay away from it i think the western economy is poison well you keep saying that the e.u. can't afford ukraine but the e.u. is now saying that they will sign an association agreement with ukraine at the end of may. your membership process. oh for sure i mean if they can do that i mean that's that's a coup de gras for them i mean they're they're obviously looking for that you know it's the it's the sort of the nato expansion mode i mean it's the north atlantic treaty alliance and last time i looked i didn't think that ukraine was very close to the north atlantic so you know that's the problem that i have with this it's
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it's you know you talk about. me the growth in the imperialistic nature of the west there's no need to keep adopting nations into this this alliance there is i don't think there's any threat from russia and certainly no threat from the ukraine to the nato alliance what about the sanctions that the united states and the european union are promising how serious can they be against russia because i mean sanctions are nothing new to russia but they rarely represent any serious threat to its economy what exactly is united states trying to do with their sanctions. well sadly the americans have been you know sanctioning iran and other countries illegally i think it's an act of war and you know obviously it wouldn't cripple the russian economy but it would certainly and have it their success i mean their it would slow down the amount of success that they're having those kinds of the kinds
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of sanctions that they'll go after will probably be looking for alternative fuel supplies for europe and then going after any kind of freezing of international accounts i mean they've already stolen quite a bit of assets from the russian. investors and russian bankers who were banking in cyprus i mean that was that was a faffed of assets in the cyprus banking infrastructure by the european union that many russians who banked offshore in cyprus took a big hit but exactly how far as can the united states go how far can it afford to go in confrontation with russia over ukraine. well you know won't be easy for them to do it to russia as they did to iran and i don't think they'll be able to go anywhere near as far as what they have the damage that they've done tyron but at the same time you know there is also you know they're looking at
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a scenario whereby that kind of pressure that they do put on russia you know it will cripple you know some of the the outlying industry that is associated with that you know throughout turkey and throughout europe so they'll be shooting themselves in the foot and also having to look to other markets now that being said you know the americans are looking at developing other resources but that will take time and what about we didn't on that part of the question here it is under pressure from the united states but it says it isn't ready for serious sanctions against russia despite all will it ever be you think. well i mean merkel's kind of basically. ruffling feathers you know with her commentary and obviously germany and russia have very good ties on a lot of different products and. the petrochemical industry but the i would say
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that that would a lot of the germans would rise up against a merkel for that because i think a lot of germans see through the fallacy of the of the end of the nato alliance is and they're not they're probably one of the more wiser and i'm obviously one of the most successful. nation states because the germans are very industrious and extremely successful at their endeavors so i don't think that it would last very long and certainly in and germany and other successful european union states like germany is the strongest economy in europe it's probably only economy that's actually on the rise everything else is sort of hanging on germany england england claims to be on the rise well it is kind of on a rise but it's it's really just floating floating but the camera place promising thirty five billion dollars to ukraine and i would say the rope is broke germany's
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the only country that takes care of all the other european countries how can they afford to give thirty five billion dollars to ukraine which isn't even a member of the union yeah i really don't think they can i can't wait to see. commentary on this you know he's one of my favorite guys who speaks at the european union i think he'll just terrible part because he knows the truth is that they don't have the money and i guarantee the german people will not be happy about footing the bill for ukraine but if they don't have the money that was to point to promising it. i think the americans are basically in a float a blank check to you know play their cards and all hopefully the ukrainian people wise up and realize that they're basically taking funny money all right it was really nice to talk to you scott rickard former u.s. intelligence officer we're talking about what can happen to ukraine in the future whether it's going part of the union or in nato thanks very interesting inside
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that's it for this edition of sophie and call see you next time. thank you so big.
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or like the law. from her. her. own. mother. we. played. the population of crimea votes to decide its legal right of self-determination how did it come to this is it because of the western backed coup that is just a power for nato zwiebel it was brought to be this all this is sideshow to
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undermine russia's with jim in security terms. the. crimea has formally asked russia to be part of the country that after a region wide referendum showed overwhelming support to break away from ukraine the basic justification of u.s. foreign policy is because we say so. western nations refuse to acknowledge the will of the crimean people can damming the vote as illegal. flow for. thousands of demonstrators take to the streets in major cities across the eastern. there reject the self-proclaimed government and demand in the pan and from here. and ukrainian army units are spotted moving towards russia's border that as far right radical leaders and key have threatened to use everything from a nuclear arsenal to terror attacks on gas pipelines.
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two pm in the russian capital you're watching r t international with me marina joshie welcome and the people of crimea have voted overwhelmingly in favor of joining russia in sunday's referendum over ninety six percent and won their region to become part of russia now about two percent voted to stay in ukraine and the rest of the ballots were spoiled or otherwise found in value and that's with an unprecedented turnout of more than eighty percent party's policy is in crimea for us. well it's a very cheerful and faced of mood here in this a vast a pole as you walk down the streets people are waving the russian flag many people actually have the flag draped over their bodies they've also cars honking their horns and driving down with the flag out of a windows the same mood is being experienced in some for our poll and other cities
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and regions across crimea where the overwhelming majority have voted to rejoin russia i was speaking to a man who summed up the mood when he said we feel like we're going home another woman telling me that people here have always been russian in the soul and they've been waiting for this day to come the mood is also experienced by the international observers who are giving a positive critique of this referendum they say that everything went according to plan that there were no reports of hiccups or at least no major hiccups and that everything went smoothly referendum has been organized quite professionally it was organized according to all. the basic and most important international star that's the crimean authorities have officially declared independence from ukraine this is something that they said they would do prior to this referendum and a delegation from the crimean parliament is currently on their way to moscow. headed to moscow today we're going to meet the state duma where we'll discuss the
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matter of crimea joining russia is one of its federal subjects most likely hold a joint session that is also under consideration. for the crimean parliament has issued a formal request to the russian parliament to take them in the russian state duma is scheduled to hold a session on friday to discuss this the russian president vladimir putin will also need to sign off on it but certainly a festive mood here in crimea where as another person summed it up this is the best day of his life. now support for crimea is move away from kiev and its post-coup government has been spreading throughout the east of ukraine into the answer people called for an independence referendum of their own and he also demanded the immediate release of the people's governor a representative elected for the protest movement against kiev he was arrested and taken to the capital earlier this month and the crowd broke into the prosecutor general's office as the police fell back almost without
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a fight. now and now there are mass protests took place in the city of hard despite a court order banning demonstrations several thousand strong rally there also demanded a popular vote on the region's status activists gathered in front of the russian consulate and asked moscow to help protect their interest. now to discuss what the future holds for crimea and ukraine and here in the studio with me is marks the boat a senior lecturer in international relations and security studies at moscow state university mark thank you so much for coming over and discussing the situation with us here so the referendum took place the vote to place we know that the region over overwhelmingly voted to become part of russia now are there any hurdles on the way next what's your forecast ok well the next step the crimea this morning they have officially changed their name from the rada to the crimean duma. the ruble has been
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announced that will be adopted they will be moving to moscow time instead of crimea they're well on their way to taking the steps the next step is for the russian duma to approve to consider and to approve this and that's expected to take place at the end of the week as for any hurdles in this i can't see the putsch regime in kiev being able to muster any military force able to challenge this. possibility but you know western governments though say that they do not recognize the vote and what can they do to prevent crimea from becoming part of russia well they really can't do anything they're going to apply a regime of sanctions it remains to be seen exactly what these sanctions will consist of the word is right now that they will only be personal sanctions directed
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against members of the russian and crimean governments that were involved in this and that will have absolutely no influence it's just doing something for the sake of doing something it won't actually have any effect i would say that the one real danger is that water is very scarce in the crimea and is controlled from mainland ukraine and gas is pipes from mainland ukraine however this would be seen as a strike against the human rights of the people of crimea if the regime in kiev was to try to cut these off and all energy going to kiev is actually comes from russia as its original source anyway so that also seems an unlikely possibility right well let's now take a look at crimea and the people who live there i mean it's absolutely a very very diverse region we have russians living very koreans living there crimean tatars living there but they all voted unanimously in this referendum why do you think are they so unified in their voice ok so the russian ethnic population
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of crimea is roughly around sixty percent majority but not a clear majority when we saw it last night with extremely large turnout and over ninety three percent. ninety seven i believe was the actual last call close of ninety seven percent approval for unification with russia we saw clearly that large numbers of ethnic ukrainians and caribbean food tars came out to vote and there are lots of reasons. for this one of them has to be. considered is the economic and stability advantages. the russian government will take on the responsibility for paying pensions this will almost double the current rate of pensions from what the ukraine pays and that's expected to go down with i.m.f. conditionality if the puts regime in kiev starts to agree to the. conditionality attached with the i.m.f. and the e.u. association agreement also the retirement age will drop by five years the price of
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gasoline will drop by almost half so there's a lot of reasons in terms of economic and personal security for many ukrainians and qatar's to choose to want to be part of the russian federation rather than ukraine sure as old as we can see there are a lot of economic interests they're involved now going back to the reaction from western governments to this vote as we established earlier and they didn't recognize it as legitimate and also they're saying the vote took place under military pressure what do you make of this well. this of course is a completely hypocritical and double standard argument. the putsch rado that has been assembled literally as the rada in kiev was under siege by armed ultra nationalist paramilitary and continues to be quote unquote guarded by them that was done under force of arms. elections in iraq afghanistan libya after u.s.
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and western invasions that was done under force of arms that removed the governments this was completely peaceful and it is more than obvious to anyone observing it that the crimean people welcomed the presence of self-defense forces and other troops that were on hand in order to secure the crimea peace and stability there and that allowed this vote take place so this is a completely ridiculous argument our markets about i think it's much for coming over and sharing your thoughts with us here i was mark the boat international affairs expert from moscow state university thank. also civilian the fans volunteers in the nance green gin say they intercepted and stopped a grainy army convoy of vehicles were heading east towards the border with russia as ryan o'neal now reports. tensions have taken a sinister turn here in donetsk following sunday's referendum after reports of emerged that activists stopped military movements of soldiers and the quitman from
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ukraine moving towards the russian border here activists from the self-defense groups apparently blipped about twenty trucks that were carrying soldiers as well as military equipment including irregular and i have on the military vehicles. he said should really sore about fifteen to twenty armored vehicles we stopped them in the commanders told us they were on their way to military drills but we realized that they were heading towards the russian border politely asked them to turn back there were a couple of hours of negotiations with the agreed and left what was also in neighboring lugansk locals blocked railway lines with scrap metal and carriages to stop the transportation on the train of a large military equipment including tanks now the locals here have been told that all of this equipment is part of planned military training exercises but there are still reports circulating that there are the military vehicles that have in fact
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made their way to the russian border there is also a growing suspicion amongst the locals here that these military movements imply that kiev is trying to provoke the population here rob and try and calm what is already a very tense situation in the region so with these suspicions along with plan demonstrations across the region that will take part throughout the week so only adding to what is a very intense situation here in the east of ukraine. now having already threatened to restock ukraine's nuclear arsenal alter nationalist are now calling to blow up the gas pipeline supplying you are leading a call is the new york fascist right sector which along with other nationalist groups has taken a high ranking post in ukraine's new government is going off reports. with tensions between moscow and kiev ukraine's right wing radicals have been pouring even more fuel on the fire. russia is making money by supplying oil and gas to the west through our pipeline so we'll
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destroy it dimitri yarosh is the leader of ukraine's ultra nationalist movement the right sector which was among the main engines that drove your is violence in kiev only on the flight and i would say it's not enough even though like a cable something else. the new authority is are viewed as a legitimate government by the west and that's despite all the firearms molotov cocktails deaths and the fact that the uprising brought a wave of far right extremist power here and weeks conversation also suggest that someone from the new government was behind the snipers all fired on both protesters and police in the capital that must have all looked rather thrilling in western chance of race unless they had read the novel frankenstein because if they had known that the monster that dr frankenstein created quickly got out of control and this monstrous threat by the right sector is
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a very grave one for people in europe because at least a third of the european union's gas supply is coming from russia even before threatening to blow up the biplane yet it should already been placed on an international wanted list by moscow for making any other menacing statement. publicly called on chechen terrorists have to launch attacks on russia after earth used to recognize kiev's new authority so. the islamist leader will modify also known as the russian bin laden took responsibility for various attacks on afterwards and civil unions including the two thousand and ten. moscow metro and the two thousand and eleven the modular airport bombings over seventy people were killed in these two attacks but cutting off europe from energy supplies and calling on terrorists to attack russia wasn't enough.
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once we restart our nuclear arsenal it will be a very different conversation a rod a deputy from the sub or the party said it would take you have less than a year to build up a nuclear arsenal we need to see responsibility from the leader well palace now to look at what's happening in ukraine to look at the changes that went on and to really focus on the seriousness of the of the problem now with this ultra nationalists in power in the ukraine and the dangers that they pose to the not just to the region but to europe as a whole it's hard to predict what sort of threats may come from the new right wing political elites in ukraine but what's clear so far neither their words nor their needs that had any impact on the foreign political support in the west you got this one of our teeth moscow. so we heard the nuclear weapons threats from ukrainian politicians but are they really feasible but we have been putting together some facts on the country's nuclear capabilities and here's what we found. now have
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obvious reigns and comes from nuclear power so it's certainly got the know how unfortunately for key if all of its fuel is bought from russia and has no way of enriching uranium to weapons grade on the other hand if it really wanted to it could take reactor waste to make a dirty bomb but by doing this ukraine would not only be breaking its international commitments but its own constitution which forbids nuclear weapons and asked for delivery vehicles a nuclear payload can be filled a simple artillery shell or a rocket but can it all be done in three to six months the answer is yes a so-called dirty bomb can be put together in that timeframe well meanwhile ukraine's new prime minister vowed that the earth will burn under the feet of separatist group that ukraine will find those responsible for instigating separatism we will find them in the year would she
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would place the move to the very ground beneath their feet there will be no place on earth where they will feel safe and the russians building or protect them. he also claimed at the spine of the great economic state agreement to raise its military budget temple and to fund x. the country which is on the verge of bankruptcy will have to cut average thing from pensions to health care spending kiev is currently one hundred forty billion dollars in debt and at serious risk of default but over the next three months gave once to quadruple military spending to the tune of seven hundred million dollars and what makes it all the more strange is the massive cuts to welfare and pensions due to hit ukraine the government submitted the treasury exam and that average pensions could be slashed to half its current rate of one hundred sixty dollars a month. now the european union has outright rejected the crimean
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referendum with various ministers adding the result is automatically illegitimate and as are two sarah first tells us talk in europe is now focused on sanctions well after all that celebrating the referendum results in crimea last night today comes the referendum if you like because the e.u. have condemned the referendum as illegal and said that they won't recognize the outcome if the european ministers again to be meeting today to discuss the sanctions now we've already had talks of possible travel bans and asset freezes but really the focus now is going to be on exactly how far these sanctions will go and there are going to be some who will be pushing for much broader sanctions than others as they gather around that table to discuss that remember many of these two european countries about eighty ninety percent of their any t.v. saul's coming from russia the city of london two of course very tight financial connections lots of russian investment so all of that i think they will be bearing
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in mind and indeed the constant talk of the escalation that's going to very much as well be at the forefront of their minds i think when they decide exactly what these sanctions will be of but of course more importantly just how far reaching and wide the sanctions will. now the united states' position on crimea all but mirrors that of the european union the white house has issued numerous statements of vowing to reject the vote and its results all top u.s. senators are currently in ukraine with senator john mccain calling for the united states to supply a key with lethal weaponry and asked for why america has been so set against the referendum serbian political analyst noise your mileage offered us he's opinion the basic justification of u.s. foreign policy is because we say so there's really no guiding principle to it the only guiding principle is the is the power of washington you had a violent jihad ists in syria you had al qaida in syria openly backed by the us government which is supposedly at war with al qaeda and has been ever since two
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thousand and one how do you square that simply because those rebels in syria as it were were serving the interests of washington at the given time same thing in ukraine nazis great we can work with nazis as long as it accomplishes our purpose it doesn't matter who these people are we'll call them something else we'll get the media to spin it as something else we'll call it russian propaganda again it doesn't matter who you are and what you're doing as long as you're serving the interests of washington. european business leaders have urged the e.u. to rethink its crimea strategy saying sanctions will have an immediate and detrimental effect on europe's economy so what's at stake for them well for starters that russia is the third biggest trading partner and almost half of europe's cars are exposure to the east and eighteen percent of chemicals wind up sold to russia now eight percent of europe's food exports are also taken up by moscow so it's understandable that those who have jobs in those fears may be
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a little worried but that's only half the story russia's contribution to the world economy is also product is taking metals for instance twenty percent of the world's top ten is comes from russia and the metal used in industries from a. jewelry you're half the world's palladium which makes your car greener is mind in russia as well that there is russia's massive contribution in platinum diamonds and many other minerals so any disruption in the supply of that is bound to reverberate across the global economy for diplomats and spokesmen for india's prime minister explained why the e.u. and the us will eventually have to engage with russia well let's now take a listen sorry we'll continue our coverage of developments in ukraine next hour also there is some other news for you after the break.
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children on the news in the close with many news is war. my goodness i can said i have a dream about nice to have a drawn. drones have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties. for the most part they have been very precise six it's like. this small body on the ground is a little girl and just next to her is a little boy of eight. we do some of her service also which was
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a complete. guess that's all the one that i can confirm that we are operating them in. afghanistan is the only other country like. afghanistan still country. welcome back you're watching our to international now one of europe's landmark regions has also started voting on independence in the very heart of the e.u. the italian province of an alto is seeking to break away from rome now let's have a look at why italy doesn't want to let the region go without taylor is one of the biggest and wealthiest provinces in italy with a population of more than five million people now one of the main reasons for the vote is that the region is tired of the back breaking burden attack. imposed by rome surveys have shown that up to sixty five percent are in favor of
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a sovereign veneto but italy has proclaimed a ballot it legal as r.t. found out unlike romney as referenda veneto struggle hasn't captured the attention of europeans in the independence of crimea no easily. no i haven't heard about it not many. have you heard of an independence referendum invented so it's really. nice that you haven't heard anything about it absolutely nothing. no i haven't seen t.v. in the last twenty four hours is a piece of you know unfortunately no. well one of those behind the secession movement thinks rome has no other option but to let go there's an absolute majority of people vote yes this will be legitimized the delegates that will be elected by this a referendum to take immediate action i've seen already that draft of the curation
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of the defendant's scholars working on it and it's almost done we presented at the end of the month also a draft of the constitution and the business community they are just waiting to get to my knees by popular vote to stop paying taxes to be out of state. well let's now take a look at some other stories from around the world and soldiers in venezuela have stormed a scene where in caracas the anti-government demonstrators have turned into their stronghold troops used tear gas and water cannon on the crowd which responded with rocks and molotov cocktails this follows president earlier threat to use force to clear a public areas occupied by demonstrators. north korea has launched twenty five short range rockets into the sea in protest against ongoing u.s. south korean military drills such as hillary tests are usually considered routine and are not compared to a long range rocket or a nuclear test internationally viewed as a provocation
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a recent flexing of military muscle took place moments before a chinese plane with two hundred and two people on board and to the same your space . and more than people have been killed in attacks on three villages in central asia area the assaulter a link to disputes between ethnic groups as the area often with this conflict over land and religions of terry and flare ups between muslims and christians and the african nation have left hundreds dead in recent years the twenty fourteen sochi winter paralympics came to an end on sunday with a spectacular show at the fish stadium the motto of the spectacular ceremony that rounded off the games was reaching the impossible huge shining letters later changed to i am possible team russia topped the medals table with a record haul and surpassed austria's previous record in one hundred eighty four by ten medals the paralympics also hit record levels and ticket sales with fans enjoying the sports and packed out venues. after the break on
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our key international with our new documentary about america's controversial drone program while our u.k. viewers will be going to ground with a scene returns. i don't want to beat a dead horse i try to varieties opinion pieces but you created melt out hits really close to my heart and affects people i know when i see obama gleefully talking to self elected new ukrainian prime minister just burns the inside of my brain he's throwing hypocrisy gasoline on my fire of contempt not only to delete phone call from the estonian defense minister claim that the kiev opposition used both sides but now the former ukrainian chief of security confirmed that the sniper fire came from a building under the control of the protesters at that time also the alliance currently
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in power in kiev glorified out see germany and you slogans like putting jews and russians who the knife so america's first black president a nobel peace prize winner who was elected by waves of tolerant optimistic lefty liberals is smiling and chatting with a leader who is supported by white power right winger groups that use the murder of their own members to oust a democratically elected government their wm nightmare is not my friends but that's just my opinion. quite often countries rich in natural resources are the poorest africa's a colony it's a colony of the big corporations it's a colony of some its own leaders who are under the thumbs of the big corporations so they have to beg from the world bank's development of social programs goes to pay back debts the country is drowning under the amount of debt that they did and so every year they would borrow money. and they would use that same of the money to
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pay back oh this. money really. the wages. choose your language. make of it oh and if. someone. chooses to use the consensus you can. choose the opinions that invigorating to. choose the stories that entire life choose me access to often.
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thirty three. now i. in a rural area of yemen. a man climbs on the back of a vehicle. he is suspected by the americans of being linked to the terrorist group al qaeda. his name like it. because it sucks. the passengers have no idea but a few kilometers above the head a drop a remotely operated plane and the pilot is watching their vehicle. in the united states at a military base the men in charge of the drone received the call to shoot. people to trigger. this strike is
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one of fell's and carried out by the americans in secret operations around the world. the drugs of the newest muscle in their powerful intelligence service the cia. together with barack obama the president of the united states they're mounting a secret campaign to kill the america's enemies all over the world. it decided that rather than to detain al qaeda or taliban members that it would instead use drone strikes try to. according to the united states it's the perfect weapon surgically precise. but behind all this talk the reality is different. the innocent on not sped.
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today some people are asking. does barack obama committed a war crime with his secret program. if you. believe knowingly so many years it is what dr martin luther king said i have a dream. i have a daughter. our inquiry begins deep in the united states. thousands of kilometers from the countries where the americans fight there will. be
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a we are at the tranquil plains of new mexico. in the sky unmanned aircraft fly overhead in the desert. the propellers make a distinctive sound. it's a drone. take off from this military base holliman where the u.s. army trains pilots for these new aircraft. today they're having an open day. the army has organized a press conference on the drones for journalists who have come from all over the world. you may think but not this is what they train on to do by the. united. we
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have to leave you not want any of this. on the interview he had arranged quite fit. the visit is tightly controlled. on the tarmac perfectly prepared pilots welcome us in order to introduce us to america's latest weapon. this is the predator the most current model one hundred sixty four in america's fleet. and here is the latest model even more powerful. it's the reaper. the army has one hundred full. these aircraft are equipped with bombs and laser controlled missiles but their main asset is in the front of the machine. under here there's a satellite antenna. and that allows us the plane turns and stuff as it's in flight
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or track the satellite and then that's what allows us to fly it via satellite so. underneath the plane here is what substitutes the pilot's eyesight and you have three care three cameras on here you have an infrared camera and this one up here is a extremely wide view camera and then this one is the one that gets you very incautious . thanks to these technologies these aircraft have become very powerful weapons for the american military. they don't fly very fast just four hundred kilometers per hour maximum but they can fly very high up to fifteen thousand meters which makes them hard to detect. the machines are also inexpensive and since they can see a little fuel they can remain in the air for
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a long time up to about twenty hours in comparison with four hours for a manned fighter plane. most of all this demonstration video shows with drones the pilots no longer need to be in the battlefield. control post in the united states thanks to a connection satellite they can control their aircraft where ever it is in the world. the drones meanwhile transmit images films by their cameras. they permit the surveillance of the territory but also have the ability to shoot things to the arms they carry on board if the drone gets hit or even destroyed the pilot is not at risk he has safely in his military base in the united states in these futuristic army barracks reinforced and air conditioned. we won't learn anything about the details of any current operations here the information given to journalists has been very carefully selected.
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and. you don't know. every yes if you look. he has his name tag. the objective for the u.s. army is not to talk about operations. but rather to convince journalists of the technological capabilities of the drones ok come on in. with this in mind the soldier takes us to a simulator for the pilots are trained. so essentially the trainer portion is this entire unit this part of here with the two seats is what looks just like the g.c.'s that down cold station. two people and needed to operate a drug. on the one hand
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a pilot flies the plane and on the other an operator controls the camera. you can see piers. you know and this would be a friendly force right here so as i say you may not get pretty good at fidelity if you didn't exactly follow that the m.c.s. and the actual aircraft will be obviously the simulator so that even. if a target is identified that it's necessary to shoot the pilots takes charge. will assume that this is hostile they'd give me clearance i have my smith which is pretty how i select my different weapons. everything is going to be touch screen so in this case i was going to shoot a hellfire. so once i select the weapon i wanted it obviously a huge group or nation effort between myself and the sensor she would start lazy and we would have all the appropriate clearances and then i would execute basically
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fire i pull into trigger. three. in two thousand and thirteen the air force has plans to train six hundred seem to get a new drone pilots almost as many as traditional fighter pilots. they will then be spread out among the. numerous u.s. military bases where the aircraft are operated. the drones themselves operate thousands of kilometers away. been used in iraq throughout the american intervention and are in action today in afghanistan. this part of the program is publicly acknowledged by the americans since they are now officially at war with these two countries. but drones have also been used in pakistan yemen and even in somalia. places where the united states is not officially at war.
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in these countries it's the cia which is using this new weapon as part of its huge campaign to destroy members of al qaeda. but at the bits the pilots have orders not to talk about this part of the program officially it doesn't exist. than. we do. with other countries. i can confirm that we are operating in yemen. and for. a country i can confirm. this for the country correct sequence. of drones taken such an important place in the american arsenal. to find out we have to look to the past.
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everything began after the september eleventh attacks of two thousand and one. at the helm of the traumatized stricken america george w. bush declared war on terrorism. either you are with us. or you're with the terrorists. america launched a will life. a program of secrets activities carried out by special forces and cia agents. hundreds of ground operations was set up in order to flush out members of al qaeda. some suspects were killed others were arrested secretly flown out to know to be
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interrogated by the americans. the united states is holding nearly seven hundred fifty suspects at their base in guantanamo. but soon holding prisoners without conviction outside of old legal jurisdiction tarnished america's image they didn't know what to do with these prisoners. then photos of torture carried out by g.i.'s kind of iraqi prisoners at abu ghraib one scandal. muslim world hatred for the united states group. american anti-terrorist policy reached an impasse.
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the population of crimea votes to decide its legal right of self-determination how did it come to this is it because of the western backed coup that has brought fascist to power. by beasts because all this is a sideshow to undermine russia's legitimate security. rightmost team play the first recipient live and i think the term limits live on our reporters live their lives to live. live in the live. fact that. they were going to do the job the price is the only
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question of drones he witnessed this evolution. the bush administration really did not use drone strikes very much the obama administration saw what happened to the bush administration with respect to detention and. decided that rather than to detain. taliban members. stead use drone strikes to try to kill them with a list of people to be eliminated by. it's a. secret this list contains the names of the most powerful members of al qaeda and the. idea was that we could. launch very targeted strikes against individual to get to areas that u.s. troops could not otherwise get to and to limit civilian casualties.
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the democratic president is convinced he's found the perfect weapon. precision bombing able to take out the enemy without killing civilians and it avoids the loss of american soldiers. the white house know uses it's. a weapon in its fight against terrorism. we conduct those strikes because they are necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats to stop plots to prevent future attacks and again save american lives these strikes are legal they are ethical and they are wise. the number of drone strikes has escalated. new america foundation counted forty nine under the bush administration. verisign with three hundred ninety five under barack obama. twenty twelve the president himself plugged the program in an online exchange with the petraeus. the drones have not caused
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a huge number of civilian casualties. for the most part of they have been very precise precision strikes against al qaeda and their affiliates. did barack obama tell the american people the truth that day. does the drone this perfect weapon really specify early in life so. we decided to go and see things from the other side of the screen. on the ground where the attacks take place. eleven thousand kilometers from the u.s. yemen is one of the top countries where unmanned planes operate.
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several years ago tourists used to come to sun up the capital for the beauty of its narrow ancient streets. today the foreigners along. the country has become one of the most dangerous in the world. soldiers patrol the town. the capital lives up to the daily threat of terror attacks. the country's leader is an american ally president. but in recent years islamists have taken control of several parts of yemen. notably north and south. these men organized under the banner of a q p a a al qaeda in the arabian peninsula to give any branch of the terrorist group. in this propaganda video the bosses directly threaten the united states and
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its. well i would then i call for an uprising. when i call for attacks and if that is not enough when it that minute i call upon the army to go and fight the jews and american aircraft carriers will. these are the combatants and their troops who are targeted by the american drones. station to neighboring countries saudi arabia in djibouti unmanned aircraft to pierce the yemeni sky to launch their strikes. since the beginning of the program there have been more than eighty. the last attack before our arrival took place thirty kilometers from sanaa. we're in yemen to check whether as the u.s. president claims only al qaeda members have been killed in these attacks. january third two thousand and thirteen near
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a small village called car will. it is this attack in a rural area which was meant for robbie lucky a man suspected by the americans of being linked to al-qaeda. that day a drone filmed him getting into the back of a vehicle. is accompanied by two bodyguards. several thousand meters above the ground invisible the drone follows the vehicle. shortly after eight pm the aircraft received the order to fire from the u.s. several missiles were launched. the day after international media including fox news and c.n.n. announced that all of victims of the attack were members of al qaeda. if we believe this information it's still a perfect strike carried out by american drones. but
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no western journalists were there on the scene to verify this since the area is very dangerous for foreigners. we go in to try. the drone struck half an hour from sun up on the other side of these mountains. the risk of kidnapping on route is serious. so we're escorted by four armed guards in this vehicle behind us. we're not five kilometers away from the site of the strike but the soldiers order us to stop. the army refuses to let us pass officially the area is too dangerous for westerners. according to our guide it's impossible to negotiate we have no option but to turn back. to get around the obvious ruling we decide to trust our camera to an
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independent journalist. a man we can trust. a yemenite he can get through the checkpoint. the images he brings back a rare very few cameras have filmed the sights of drone strikes. they show a very different reality from the one reported in the press. the missiles were detonated on a narrow country lane there are still traces of the burning and the impact on the ground. the local inhabitants saw it all. there was blood everywhere. there was a body without legs or a head impossible to identify the legs and people from the neighboring village arrived. they recognised the car. go.
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out and they started to scream. this is the scene discovered by villages they took these photos after the strike and. remains of the vehicle is still smoking. among the mutilated human remains is rebbie lucky. the men targeted and his body guards. over the villages also found the bodies of two other people they knew well. what's left of the vehicle is now held in the neighboring village will. locals got the piece of evidence. in fact the car belonged to a man from the village. salim hussain. a young taxi driver aged just twenty six that's one of the two bodies the village is recognised. a man stands
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aside hussein. was your son involved with al qaida no. no no that's not the case over there he was just a student going to say that it was very low student who made a living working as a driver. so how would you explain what he was doing with al qaeda men generally are nothing to do with that if you're into living using the car is a taxi that he was supporting us financially that's all. just like traditional bombs drone strikes don't specify billions they incite hatred against the americans among the local people and they make those close to the victims hungry for revenge . the young taxi driver lived here in this family house with his father his brothers and his sisters his grandmother and his mother. saleem was
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our life like she was my eldest. and they killed him. what do you want us to do. and we had selima now it's as if they cut off our hands and feet may god have resistance justice. inside the car that was targeted there was another villager. there a teacher aged thirty one. that's the second body the villagers recognized. this is his brother. and he shows us the school where the teacher worked just next to the village. on the walls there's an attendance chart for the teaches the teacher was still in plus a few hours before he died. i left my brother a leave is innocent young father is my look round he was there on january twenty
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third and it is about that he was there all year. and. he never missed a single day of this is he was even there the day he died before the bombing. in fact in this attack the drone fired on a group taxi. two of the villages were ended which the suspects were travelling. people who've investigated this attack of very few and so now we have a meeting with one such person. works for an engine go the defense human rights. foundation. he has a document which confirms that the two villages were not among the targeted suspects it's a report from the yemeni minister for the interior what was this a while a woman found it is written had after an inquiry we certify that salim hussein here
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and elise l.a. are there any sets the second victim. advocacy yet on which they had no connection to the fellow with the suspected persons missing out on however they were killed alongside them in the vehicle. we wanted to create a realistic model that would represent life that we had to pay to live as it really is. well. the whole thing is a. pleasure
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to have you with us here today. funding social groups or organizations that are the same thing as funding a revolution well of course if they're tossing molotov cocktails and not having a peaceful and and what i would say entail actual dialogue you know using
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communications and paper and creating you know what i would say halls and having discussions that is funding a revolution. and basically the money's going to organizations that may incite violence against the standing government that is inciting your evolution and i think it's illegal.
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crimea has formally asked russia to be part of the country and that's after region wide referendum showed overwhelming support to break away from ukraine. the basic justification of u.s. foreign policy is because we say so western nations refuse to acknowledge the will of the crimean people condemning the vote as illegal. thousands of demonstrators state to the streets in major cities across the east of ukraine they reject the self-proclaimed government and demanded the panels from kiev. and ukraine army units are spot of moving towards russia's border that is far right radical years and he has threatened to use everything from a nuclear arsenal to terror attacks on gas pipelines.
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three pm in moscow you're watching are to international with me where you are josh and the people of crimea have voted overwhelmingly in favor of joining russia in sunday's referendum over a ninety six percent of one their region to be calm part of russia about two percent voted to stay in ukraine and the rest of the ballots were spoiled or otherwise found in value that's with an unprecedented turnout of more than eighty percent i suppose lior is in crimea. well it's a very cheerful and festive mood here in this a vast a pole as you walk down the streets people are waving the russian flag many people actually have the flag draped over their bodies they're also cars honking their horns and driving down with the flag out of a windows the same mood is being experienced in some for our poll and other cities and regions across crimea where the overwhelming majority have voted to rejoin
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russia i was speaking to a man who summed up the mood when he said we feel like we're going home another woman telling me that people here have always been russian in the soul and they've been waiting for this day to come the mood is also experienced by the international observers who are giving a positive critique of this referendum they say that everything went according to plan that there were no reports of hiccups or at least no major hiccups and that everything went smoothly referendum has been organized quite professionally it was organized according to all. the basic and most important international standards the communal forty's have officially declared independence from ukraine this is something that they say they would do prior to this referendum and a delegation from the crimean parliament is currently on their way to moscow. we're headed to moscow today we're going to meet the state duma where we'll discuss the matter of crimea joining russia is one of those federal subjects who will most
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likely hold a joint session that is also under consideration. the main issue is to crimea as financial system through russian standards to coordinate the use of both russian and ukrainian currencies and the energy issue in terms of security in the republic i can say that we have no problems with providing foresman agencies work around the clock the crimean parliament has issued a formal request to the russian parliament to take them in the russian state duma is scheduled to hold a session on friday to discuss this the russian president vladimir putin will also need to sign off on it but certainly a festive mood here in crimea where as another person summed it up this is the best day of his life. support for crimea is move away from kiev and its post coup government has been spreading throughout the east of ukraine into nantes people called for an independence referendum of their own and they also demanded the immediate release of the people's governor
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a representative they elected for the protest movement against kiev and he was arrested and taken to the capital earlier this month the crowd broke into the prosecutor general's office as a police fell back almost without a fight and another mass protest to place in the city of harkat despite a court order banning demonstrations and several thousand strong rally there also demanded a popular vote on the region status activists gathered in front of the russian consulate and asked moscow to help protect their interests. now western nations dubbed the referendum illegal as soon as it was announced and one of the reasons is that you legit military pressure on crimea international affairs expert mark from the moscow state university told me that position is invalid this of course is a completely hypocritical and double standard argument. the putsch rato that has been assembled literally as the rada in kiev was under siege by armed
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ultra nationalist paramilitary and continues to be quote unquote guarded by them that was done under force of arms elections in iraq afghanistan libya after u.s. and western invasions that was done under force of arms that remove the governments this was completely peaceful and it is more than obvious to anyone observing it that the crimean people welcomed the presence of self-defense forces and other troops that were on hand in order to secure the crimea peace and stability there and that allowed this vote take place so this is a completely ridiculous argument. now russia's foreign ministry has laid out a number of steps it says must be taken for the political crisis in ukraine to be eased first moscow says all sides must respect ukraine's military neutrality to avoid force majeure circumstances and secondly moscow believes should adopt russian
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as its second language for the millions of african russians in eastern ukraine and thirdly a new constitution must be put to a referendum and elections must be held if it's adopted. now also civilian defense volunteers in donetsk region say they intercepted and stopped the granting army convoy of vehicles were heading east towards the border with russia as ryan o'neal now reports. attentions of taken a sinister turn here in donetsk following sunday's referendum after reports of emerged that activists stopped military movements of soldiers on the quitman from ukraine moving towards the russian border here activists from the self-defense groups apparently blocked about twenty trucks that were carrying soldiers as well as military equipment including regular and add on military vehicles which he said should really sore about fifteen to twenty aman vehicles we stopped them in the
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commanders told us they were on their way to military drills but we realized that they were heading towards the russian border was lightly asked them to turn back there were a couple of hours of negotiations with the agreed and let me just who was this is that it would help also in neighboring lugansk locals blocked railway lines with scrap metal and carriages to stop the transportation on the train of a large military equipment including tanks now the locals here have been told that all of this equipment is part of military training exercises but there are still reports circulating that there are the military vehicles that have in fact made their way to the russian border there is also a growing suspicion amongst the locals here that these military movements imply that kiev is trying to provoke the population here rob and try and calm what is already a very tense situation in the region so with these suspicions along with plan demonstrations across the region that will take part throughout the week i say only adding to what is a very intense situation here in the east of ukraine having already threatened to
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restock ukraine's nuclear arsenal alter nationalist are now calling to blow up the gas pipeline supplying who are leading the call is a neo fascist right sector which along with other nationalist groups has taken high ranking post in ukraine's new government r.t. as a group is going off reports. with tensions between moscow and kiev ukraine's right wing radicals have been pouring even more fuel on the fire. russia is making money by supplying oil and gas to the west through our pipeline so we'll destroy it dimitri yarosh is the leader of ukraine's older nationalist movement the right sector which was among the main engines that drove february's violence in kiev only on the flight and i would say it's not enough. like a cable something else. the new authority is are viewed as a legitimate government by the west and that's despite all the firearms molotov
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cocktails deaths and the fact that the uprising brought a wave of far right extremist power of leaks conversation also suggested someone from the new government was behind the snipers all fired on both protesters and police in the capital that must have all looked rather thrilling in western chance of race unless they had read the novel frankenstein because if they had known that the monster dr frankenstein created quickly got out of control and this monstrous threat by the right sector is a very grave one for people in europe because at least a third of the european union's gas supply is coming from russia even before threatening to blow up the biplane yet it should already been placed on an international want to list by moscow for making another menacing statement. publicly called on chechen terrorists have to launch attacks on russia after all if
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used to recognize kids knew or thought. the islamist leader or modify also known as the russian bin laden took responsibility for various attacks on up towards and civil unions including the two thousand and ten. school metro and the two thousand and eleven the muddier were airport bombings over seventy people were killed in these two attacks but cutting off europe from energy supplies and calling on terrorists to attack russia wasn't enough. once we restart our nuclear arsenal it will be a very different conversation arad a deputy from the slope of the party said it would take you have less than a year to build up a nuclear arsenal we need to see responsibility from the leader well palace now to look at what's happening in ukraine to look at the changes that went on and to really focus on the seriousness of the of the problem now with this ultra nationalists in power in the ukraine and the dangers that they pose to the not just
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to the region but to europe as a whole it's hard to predict what sort of threats may come from the new right wing political elites in ukraine but what's clear so far neither their words nor their needs that had any impact on the foreign political support in the west you got this one of our teeth moscow. so we've heard the nuclear weapons threats from ukrainian politicians but are they really feasible we've been putting together some facts on the country's nuclear capabilities and here's what we found. now half of ukraine's an urgent comes from nuclear power so it's certainly got the know how unfortunately for king if all of its fuel is bought from russia and has no way of enriching uranium to weapons grade now on the other hand if it really wanted to it could take reactor ways to make a dirty bomb but by doing this ukraine would not only be breaking its international commitments but its own constitution which forbids nuclear weapons as for delivery
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vehicles and nuclear payload can be filled in a simpler tillery shell or a rocket but cannot all be done in three to six months the answer is yes so-called dirty bomb can be put together in that timeframe meanwhile ukraine's new prime minister valid that the earth will burn under the feet of a separatist. group that you grade will find those responsible for instigating separatism we will find them in the year with you and place the move to the very ground beneath their feet there will be no place on earth where they will feel safe and the russians building or protect them . now he also claimed that despite its great economic state ukraine needs to raise its military budget ten fold and to fund that the country which is on the verge of bankruptcy will have to cut everything from pensions to health care spending keep its current way one hundred forty billion dollars in debt and at serious risk of
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default. but over the next three months kiev wants to quadruple military spending to the tune of seven hundred million dollars and what makes it all the more strange the massive cuts to welfare and pensions due to hit ukraine the government's admits the treasury is empty and that average pensions could be slashed to half its current rate of one hundred sixty dollars a month. now the european union has rejected the crimean referendum with various ministers adding their result design to magically illegitimate and authorities are first tells us talk in europe is now focused on sanctions. well after that celebrating the referendum results in crimea last night today comes the referendum if you like because the e.u. have condemned the referendum as illegal and said that they won't recognize the outcome if the european ministers again to be meeting today to discuss the sanctions now we've already had talks of possible travel bans and asset freezes but
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really the focus now is going to be on exactly how far these sanctions will go and there are going to be some who will be pushing for much broader sanctions than others as they gather around that table to discuss that remember many of these two european countries about eighty ninety percent of their any t.v. signals coming from russia the city of london to of course very tight financial connections lots of russian investment so all of that i think they will be bearing in mind and indeed the constant talk of the escalation that's going to very much as well be at the forefront of their minds i think when they decide exactly what these sanctions will be of but of course more importantly just how far reaching and wide the sanctions will go. now the united states' position on crimea all but mirrors out of the european union the white house has issued and numerous statements of valuing to reject the vote and its results top u.s. senators are currently in ukraine with senator john mccain calling for the united states to supply with lethal weaponry and asked for why america has been so set
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against of the referendum serbian political analyst aboard your mileage offered us he's opinion. or justification of u.s. foreign policy is because we say so there's really no guiding principle to it the only guiding principle is that is the power of washington you had a violent jihad ists in syria you had al qaida in syria openly backed by the us government which is supposedly at war with al qaeda and has been ever since two thousand one hundred your score that simply because those rebels in syria as it were were serving the interests of washington and the given time seem things in ukraine nazis. great we can work with nazis as long as it accomplishes our purpose it doesn't matter who these people are we'll call them something else we'll get the media to spin it as something else we'll call it russian propaganda again it doesn't matter who you are and what you're doing as long as you're serving the interests of washington and european business leaders have urged the e.u. to rethink its crimea strategy saying sanctions will have an immediate and
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detrimental effect on europe's economy so what's at stake for them well for starters russia is that you use third biggest trading partner almost half of europe's cars are exported to the east and eighteen percent of chemicals are wind up sold to russia eight percent of europe's food exports are also taken out by moscow so it's understandable that those who have jobs in this fierce may be a little worried. now that's only half the story russia's contribution to the world economy is also product just take a mouse for example twenty percent of the world's titanium comes from russia a mallet used in industries from aviation to jewelry and here only half the world's played a young which makes your car greener as mine in russia as well and there's russia's massive contribution in platinum diamonds and many other minerals so any disruption in the supply of that is bound to reverberate across the global economy former diplomat and spokesman for india's prime minister explained why the e.u.
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and the us will eventually have to engage with russia the united states has followed up policy of strategic advantage went over russia to foot blocks that you could name is a multi religious might be at least society and i bet even one of the it to make and there could be. lies in the areas of ukraine especially the industrial body the national security of the ukrainians what reason winter without russian gas. west does not have the money for a flood below the ukraine so i think what is going to happen is if you can make this simple exemption is that at some stage or the other they'll have to get into negotiations with russia will continue our coverage of developments in ukraine and next hour here and here national and also there's some other news for you after a short break don't go away.
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the population of crimea votes to decide its legal right of self-determination how did it come to this is it because of the western backed coup that is brought fascist to power or nato zwiebel and pushed by beasts because all of this is a sideshow to undermine russia's widget image security. we speak your language of the will and not a day of. school music programs and documentaries and spanish more matters to you breaking news a little tonnage of angola's stories. you hear. destroy all teach spanish find out more visit. all tito it's calm. there's a media leave us so we leave that maybe. by the sea potions to cure the play your
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. quite often in countries rich in natural resources are the poorest africa's a colony it's a colony of the big corporations it's a colony of someone's home leaders who are under the thumbs of the big corporations so they have to beg from the world bank's development of social programs goes to pay back that whole country is we're drowning under the amount of debt that they did and so every year they would borrow money. and they would use that same amount of money to pay back oh that's. all that money really. the wages of debt.
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welcome back you're watching r t international one of europe's landmark regions has also started voting on independence and a very heart of the e.u. the entire province of an alto is seeking to break away from rome citizen and can citizens can have their say via phone or online at this you're looking at where the voting is taking place up until friday which is the end of the week but more than five million people have a chance to cast their ballot now let's have a look at why italy doesn't want to let their region go the netto is one of the biggest and wealthiest provinces in the country with a population of more than five million people now one of the main reasons for the vote is that the region is tired of the backbreaking burden of taxes imposed by rome surveys have shown up to sixty five percent of the population are in favor of
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a sovereign veneto but italy has proclaimed a ballot illegal what one of those behind the secession movement thinks rome has no other option but to agree. there's a few majority of people vote yes this will be legitimized the delegates will be elected but this the referendum to take immediate action i've seen already that draft over the generation of the defendants scholars working on it and it's almost on what we've presented at the end of them on social a draft of a constitution and the business community they are just waiting to monies by popular vote to stop paying taxes to be out of state now and take a look at some other stories from around the world soldiers in but as we all have stormed the central square in caracas that anti-government demonstrators have turned and to their stronghold troops here's tear gas and water cannon on the
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crowds which responded with rocks and molotov cocktails this fall as president earlier threat to use force to clear public areas occupied by demonstrators. north korea has launched twenty five short range rockets into the scene protests against him going u.s. south korean military drills that are tailoring tests are usually considered routine and are not compared to a long range rocket or nuclear test internationally viewed as provocations a recent lexing of military muscle took place moments before a chinese plane with two hundred two people on board and the same airspace. more than one hundred people have been killed in attacks on three villages in central interior the assaults are a link to disputes between ethnic groups as the area often witnesses conflict over land and religion sectarian flare ups between muslims and christians in the african nation have left hundreds dead in recent years. the twenty four thousand such to winter olympics came to an ad on sunday with
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a spectacular show at the fish stadium the motor of the spectacular ceremony that rounded off the games was reaching the impossible huge shining letters later changed to i'm possible team russia topped the medals table with a record haul and surpassed austria's previous record in one hundred four by ten medals the paralympics also hit record levels and ticket sales with fans enjoying the sport's impact out venues. and after the break peter lavelle and his gaffes discuss. made on the crisis in ukraine across the state.
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i don't want to beat a dead horse i try to varieties opinion pieces but you created melt out hits really close to my heart and affects people i know when i see obama gleefully talking to suffer elected new ukrainian prime minister just burns the inside of my brain he's throwing hypocrisy gasoline on my fire of contempt not only to delete phone call from the estonian defense minister claim that the kiev opposition you state person gets both sides but now the former ukrainian chief of security confirmed that the sniper fire came from a building under the control of the protesters at that time also the alliance currently in power in kiev glorified how to germany and you slogans like putting jews and russians to the knife so america's first black president and nobel peace prize winner who was elected by waves of tolerant optimistic lefty liberals is smiling and chatting with a leader who is supported by white power right winger groups that use the murder of their own members to oust a democratically elected government there william nightmare is now my friends but that's just my opinion.
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i know c.n.n. m s n b c news have taken some nuts lately but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and i think. it's because one politician in the mainstream media works side by side with you actually on your. at our team we have a different breed. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not like damnit i'm not how. you guys talk to the jets will handle that.
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leave you. alone welcome across town for all things are considered i'm peter lavelle the population of crimea votes to decide its legal right of self-determination how did it come to this is it because of the western backed coup that is brought fascist to power or nato as we went west drive east is all of this a sideshow to undermine russia's legitimate security interests. to cross off the crimean vote i'm joined by my guest george galloway in london he is a politician a writer a british m.p. and host of the program sputnik on our t.v.
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in washington we have michael hughes he is a journalist and foreign policy analyst who often writes for the huffington post and the examiner and in moscow we crossed to dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst with the voice of russia right gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it george i go to you first in london what is the significance of this vote. well i think the point you made in your introduction is the main one how did this all come about it came about because a coup took place in kiev the ukrainian constitution was trashed president driven from the land presidency set on fire a policeman killed in significant numbers fascists on the streets and their first start was to cancel the russian language so not generally crimea which for two centuries has been a part of russia was given away rather capriciously by khrushchev in my lifetime without consulting a single person in crimea and the crimean people ninety seven percent of whom speak
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russian got rather anxious and began to look to protect their own interests and for those who say self-determination referendum is illegal under the ukrainian constitution there is no ukrainian constitution it was destroyed in the coup that the western countries helped to far meant and certainly financed in very significant order and of course in scotland in september the scottish people are voting not the english or the world or the people of the north of ireland just the scottish on whether or not they should leave the united kingdom it's good enough for them it's good enough for the people of crimea ok dimitry what a help why would you react react to what george had to say there because you know washington says it's illegal it's illegitimate eccentric satcher i can remember cos of aldo. well i would say that it's a good move on russia's side to support this referendum and you know
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most of their political up service here in moscow were surprised when the steps were taken in that direction in the end of february but if you look at this situation from a russian perspective it would look rather nature really i mean since one thousand nine hundred eighty eight russia has been making concessions we gave up our positions in central europe where allowed nato to expand even into former soviet republics in the baltics so ukraine was like the last straw that broke. the back of a camel something had to be done to shoulder west that it cannot indiscriminately without any risks moving its military machine goals in course at the russia i mean sevastopol as a nato base is an absurdity if any of our knowing history knows that russia did not give up sevastopol even in eight hundred fifty five when the fleets of great
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britain and france were bombarded it for months so obviously this is the first time that russia ready took a stand and i would say that the place is chosen not because of international law but if you go considerations probably it would be easier to apply pressure on other countries. in crimea indeed the majority of people want to become citizens of russia and the west should ask itself the question how come that these happened these people lived in independent ukraine for twenty five years and still they didn't become in any way closer to kiev i think the reason is because they're afraid that the new government in kiev is actually building and they're think state this is something that they cannot accept in crimea michel it's even western media they just don't like to talk about the composition of this government in kiev the fascist the ultra nationalists explain to me why you think that's the case.
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well i think that's the case because there's a natural bias in the western media against putin in russia even you know what's what's concerning it's not only on the american right i mean fox news you know this predictable but the american left publications like new york times are you know either glossing it over or they're outright criticizing it they're calling it propaganda in there overlooking the facts in the facts are neo fascists have and ultranationalist have filled a number of top ministry posts and what's ironic is the europeans and the us years ago said these parties did not reflect western values and now they're all about it you know it's like yesterday they were are neo fascists today you know they're evil kind of like the taliban were are terrorist before nine eleven and now they're evil it's just amazing it's just we're able to wind blows that's what the u.s. position is whatever the u.s. says at the time you know depending on the position depending on their interests
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that's that's what you know their stances so it's it's just remarkable like you know in my article i say google ukraine a neo fascist or neo nazi and you know eventually you find an article like the state department didn't have to do a lot of research yet they categorically denied this in a statement a top ten list kind of mocking putin and it is just you know it's agree just it's kind of hard to believe that they would point blank just deny that ultra nationalists are occupying the top post. george if i go back to you in line i think it's really quite remarkable from a russian perspective is that there was an agreement on the twenty first of february it was a compromise everybody won something no one lost everything and then the e.u. walked away from it in we had big torii and new and scoop pulled off here no wonder russia doesn't trust these people well quite president kennedy god rest his soul was ready to take the whole world to thermonuclear war to stop the then soviet
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union having missiles on cuba ninety miles away from the coast of florida yet they imagine that russia will expect will accept the ever onward march of nato and everybody knows that the kind of regime we now have through the coup in kiev the next thing they would do after the i.m.f. and the e.u. would be to invite nato to the very borders of the russian federation and anyone with any sense would know that a leader like putin who is nobody's pushover everybody knows that would never accept that so russia is now attending to its absolutely legitimate security and economic concerns and the responsibilities that it has to ethnic russian people i mean the united kingdom sailed seven eight nine thousand miles to the south
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atlantic to come to the aid of two thousand three hundred of people who claim to be our compatriots and for the falklands war how much more pressure is there on a russian president to defend his compatriots on the very borders of the russian state well what about the south east of ukraine after this referendum in crimea what's your crystal ball saying well. basically a crane mir is a special. case and i see a lot of complications for russia and for the west if our rest in the eastern parts of ukraine becomes violent at a certain moment or russia will be forced to intervene i think it's not in the interest of ukraine it's not in the interests of the west it's not in the interest of russia and i hope their. government in kiev has some wisdom and they won't just rest their leaders or for people movements there because ok they're
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asked at these so-called people's governor. but there will be there just to please them by some are they enthusiastic so this is not the way to treat opposition we know it but you know the problem with the kiev government. the west says or they made a mistake canceling the status of russia necessary jinnah language or they made a mistake by taking in members of the suborder party into the governmental suborder initially was called national soul szell party of ukraine you understand that this is a euphemism for national soldier this body of ukraine but i would say that this reminds me or the soviet mentality they always said that started made mistakes the nature of stalin was criminal in there were he the same way i see a lot of people in budget if she and i see a lot of people who are also all diehard extremist nationalists and this is the
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nature of this regime to cancel their status of russian language in the regions or to take out a nationalist into the government this is no mistake this is their character ok michael let's focus on the state department here what were they thinking what was victoria nuland thinking that you could have pulled this off i mean it's really amateur behavior i've never seen such amateur behavior in foreign policy in my lifetime. and i have to say admittedly i was a little shocked that you know she she she did this she's to you know seem like a professional when she do the state department press briefing she always carefully you know chose her words and for her to do something so one diplomatic but then again you know you know her fingerprints were kind and been gassy as well so you know it's unbelievable she's married to a neo con you know that's got to be stated too so maybe that's where her mindset is
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and you know some of her radical views came out but it was disappointing you know when you when you cover the state department and there was you know the press even respected her and you know that it's unfair like you said it's just mind boggling but you know she's representing john kerry's ideas and i don't know what happened to kerry over the past ten years he has lindsey graham coming up to him well i say b.s. on everybody if you are not before we go to the brain jump in george before we go to the break go ahead yeah i mean doesn't she representing john mccain's ideas i mean the obama administration hasn't had a farmhand on this the base has been set by mccain and by the new york of the bush era nuland is one of those she's got a dirty mouth we know about what he thinks of the european union we now know she was giving out fifty dollars a day which was quite a bit of money. to zone the street that destroyed the ukrainian constitution so
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i don't think we can exculpate the obama administration from this if this is what's going on good and of there are there are right yes let me go we're going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on crimea stay with our team. if moon and children continues to. flow swimming news is welcome martin luther king said i have a dream obama is to have a drawn. drones have not
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the leap. welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle true mind you we're discussing the crimean vote. ok george i go back to you in london as we are all speaking here right now the votes the last votes are being counted i think we can all rest assured that it's going to pass so what does washington in brussels and london and everybody else do tomorrow well i think they'll have to accept the democratic decision of the people of crimea they're not going to go to war with the rush of the sanctions that they're talking about will boomerang very badly hurt their own economies which my
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goodness are in a. parlous condition so they'll just have to accept it and i think they'll be able to accept it the main problem will be as dimitri said if the provocations of the right sector and spada continue in the ukraine against the overwhelmingly russian speaking people of the east of ukraine russia will be forced to take other measures and those other measures might take us into very dangerous waters indeed so if i was in the foreign office behind me who knows maybe one day i'll get there if i was in the foreign office behind me i would take the decision to just bite my lip and accept that the gamble that they took in backing the coup in kiev hasn't wholly come off and that crimea has to be in the debit balance column you know it be may it again you know we see washington fumbling all of the time in syria comes
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to mind here i mean what happens the the next day we've heard so much bluster out of media and western politicians mccain was mentioned here i mean can they eat their words in if they will eat their words how long how will they reflect upon their policies. well the problem is that there are sanctions when we talk about sanctions. those sanctions which can be imported on russia without a new price to play from the western side these sanctions have already been imposed a lot a goal yeah i mean if we look at the main measures that the e.u. is going to take first is going to cancel negotiations on the visa free regime between russia and the u. i remind you that these negotiations were started on putin's initiated of back in two thousand and three they drag on for ten years and they will drag on for thirty or forty years more there is no absolutely no pain for russia in stopping these negotiations right now and the second thing that they did is to cancel negotiations
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on the new partnership and cooperation agreement again i remind you this agreement was signed in one thousand nine hundred four it expired in two thousand and four and since then we would not elaborate the new agreement with the european union because this new agreement will have to be fired by the parliaments in such countries says paul and all the store near all large here and i don't think they will rectify any agreement except the one saying that russia is a criminal state and you know all the story so the problem is that by being so confrontational with russia during the last at least twenty years the western powers have limited their capacity to impose sanctions what can they do ok they can store buy in russian oil and gas that there would be an economic disaster for the european union or they can stop said and russians you know their consumer goods or their luxury goods that they're sent in now and this will hit the european union's
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budget so by their old policy is they made themselves powerless now this is what i want to say about the west and put it issuance michael well how do you reflect upon that because you know monday morning is going to come around and we've already heard from john kerry that you know right after the referendum we will make our big announcement in from idema just said there's not any announcements going to be well in an underestimation of what he probably has in his mind. right i think you know the cold the cold war war's over it's not as easy to isolate countries especially great powers i think you know they may have some leverage with you know from the business aspect from the sanctions you know in this world today both you know that russia depends on europe europe depends on russia and europe you know they could hurt russia in that regard with you know you know if they overdo it on sanctions that may be a leverage point but that would be stupid because they rely on russian you know
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natural resources so i think there has to be restraint to start a sanctions war will lead to nowhere and it will it will hurt but there are some people like mccain that are wont to drive towards that and i think you know it could cause some problems if all these you know if it leads in these business and these industry leaders in russia start getting their visas revoked everywhere they go that that's going to be problematic and that's going to make the whole situation even worse so i think there needs to be restraint and i think there are a lot of go ahead joe i did rick headlee and he george in london i mean let me. let me tell you if they stop dr richard russians coming to london to throw their platinum credit cards around how to drive up the prices for ordinary people in london and stop a russian boy isn't ruling elite college. that's a good thing so far as most british people. i always get who do you guys will go
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to stuff at putin. all right let me jump in here even if they do i think putin is pretty angry with them after all why shouldn't russia's wealth be spent in the development of russia rather than the development of the london property market are buying clubs in the english premiership let them buy clubs in russia oh that's what that's what vladimir putin says he. let me go back to you here in moscow i think one interesting angle of this is that china has come out very much on russia's side and i always hate it when western politicians say the international community says well no they're just nato and their friends but china is is coming out and saying look you know there are lines that you cannot cross here and it's backing up russia here how is this changing the geopolitical order in your mind well i must tell you that i have heard from several cheney's friends of mine. they suddenly had the same
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impression of john kerry supreme court press conference that i had i mean the recent most recent press conference and this impression was very positive i mean i understand that they sound strange but it was very positive because for the first time in fifteen years that we have heard from mr kerry such words as legitimate russian interests and molecule a troll approach to international organizations over the international law for fifteen years since the yugoslav war in one thousand nine hundred nine would have been heard it from the united states we want it heard that the u.n. is all dated international law is old dated the united states is going to act you knew a truly. russia has no legitimate interest china has no legitimate interest so for the first time there american secretary of state speaks like a normal official in his situation and russia had to take this move
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russia had to basically. make this board geopolitical step in order to make john kerry speak like a normal human being this is something that is going to be watched closely and appreciated in china in india probably even in brazil ok george but it looks like the horses are already out the gate here because again mr kerry can talk all he wants but actions are very very different here and again the the united states. being spotlight is on the fact that it doesn't respect international law and when it deals with the sovereign rights of other countries i mean one of the interesting things is that we keep hearing from the white house is that russia should respect the sovereignty of ukraine well who doesn't respect sovereignty in ukraine. well look i'm sitting a hundred fifty yards from the building that took a decision to invade and occupy country after country after over the last decade all those who mendaciously marched us into war and occupation around the
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world have no right to speak about anybody's infringement of anybody's national sovereignty but in this case it's especially absurd because as you fleetingly referred in kosovo which is a part of the serbian state the very same countries are doing everything that they can to separate costs of all from serbia and to accept that unilateral declaration of independence and this all began with tony blair's chicago speech the chicago doctrine where they basically crushed international law they crushed the united nations they asserted their right to decide where and when to intervene invade occupy other people's countries so i don't take seriously the political class of the western countries or their media call jim bar and president
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putin hasn't fired a single shot in anger in crimea the criterion people are putting an x on a piece of paper as we speak what could be a more democratic peaceful way of self determining your own future than that ok michael i'm i'm i'm almost convinced that mr putin is going to irritate everyone in the west by not saying anything about a vote for a while here although what's clear is obama's position right now we have people like mccain you know he says we mccain says about the obama failed in syria he's failed in ukraine is there going to be a backlash against obama because he does the perception is he's very weak. i think the perception is that he's weak and sometimes people mistake that because he's judicious and deliberateness thinking and i mean maybe he's more like putin in that regard maybe it seems like he doesn't like to make a lot of statements on this and as george said earlier and now i'm wondering is
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this state department kind of going rogue on the obama i think his problem is he you know he's not controlling the state department properly he's not controlling the message and it's hard it's hard to understand what he really thinks because he doesn't make a lot he lets kerry make all the statements and you know sounds like they let victoria run wild so i think you know if he sat down in a back room obama would love to you know do some i think he's a pragmatic liberal so i think you know we're going to get from him he has to take control of the situation and kind of tone it down rein in the state department. i think that's that's the problem right now there's a disconnect i think you know he is deliberate and that's what he gets you know he gets accused of dithering you know which is you know he's thinking before he's acting so you know that's the way i see it all right gents fascinating discussion with run out of time many thanks my guests in london washington and in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.
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some of her. own. one that i can confirm that we are operating in. afghanistan as the only other country like. afghanistan still countries. funding social groups or organizations that are the same thing as funding a revolution well of course if they're tossing molotov cocktails and not having a peaceful and and what i would say ental actual dialogue you know using communications and paper and creating you know what i would say town halls and having discussions that is funding a revolution if citing violence and. basically the money's going to organizations that may incite violence against the standing government you know that is inciting your evolution. i think it's illegal.
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look to. crimea formally asked to be reunited with russia after more than ninety percent of voters show their support for breaking away from ukraine in a region wide referendum. the crimean vote and anti-government rallies in eastern ukraine prompted harsh response from the interim prime minister who threatens a crackdown while far right activists say it should go nuclear and. western nations refuse to accept the ride of crimea to self-determination branding the referendum illegal.

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