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thank you thank you for holding. everyone i guess you looking at the pictures that you're getting the why of the would get if you were president would just address. the situation at the time you have told the referendum and a moment ago we witnessed a historic occasion of signing the events on so that's the poll and crime goes into the ratio and also on the other side of this you see the pictures coming out of crimea sebastopol looking to pull away the russian flags they're looking jubilant oh mark what do you make of this good a story moment to school a historic occasion that we've just witnessed the. it is really storch moment not
only for russia but especially for the people of the crimea my wife herself is and they largely feel that they have been living in another country that was not their own for the last twenty two years and with the recent events it became extremely hostile to their interests so they have a very great feeling of coming home in fact one western commentator viewing it in sevastopol remarked that the sense of the crimean people felt very much like the feeling of the german people when the berlin wall came down and they were reunited and i think president putin alluded to this in his speech that is the strength of feeling and sheer joy on the sides both in russia and the create me over this well mark while we were listening to president address and discussing the highlights of his speech i guess now we can talk to our correspondents who have been also listening and watching this occasion i believe we can talk to your piskun off do.
you go or hello there well if you just listen through what the president was saying in a statement to upper house of parliament do bring us the highlights well indeed this was a very detailed and comprehensive statement from the president and he talked about ancient and recent history the relations between russia crimea ukraine and the west making it absolutely clear how important crimea is to moscow and also making it clear that moscow is fully aware of the sort of consequences attraction for me too when it comes to its relations with the west with the president commented on accusations that russia is while leading international war in the crimea saying that moscow has not exceeded the twenty five thousand troop limit that it has the support of the black sea navy fleet he's also talking about. i commented on the
accusations about military intervention saying that there is no example in history of a military intervention to another country without a single shot fired. we all remember these cases the attacks on. afghanistan and libya. what do we hear from our colleagues in the west and europe they say that we are violating the norms of international law it's good that they remember that international law exists it's better late than never. cry means used to call civil is a precedent and western partners have said this precedent themselves with their own hands. in a situation which is completely the same. situation in crimea. recognized. and they proved you don't actually need
permission from central authorities to declare your country a sovereign one. the president is saying that course of was an enormously important precedent which was created by the west and he said that what we're seeing now the western approach to the situation in the crimea is not only double standards he called it pure cynicism saying that you can't call one thing black and then the next they call the same thing white at the same time he stressed that russia does not is not against nato it wants to cooperate with nato but it does not want to see the military alliance right on its back door and he said that he hopes this position will be understood by russia's partners including those in the west and also spoke a lot about moscow's relations with ukraine in fact he addressed ukrainians directly saying that russia does not mean any harm to this nation but he is saying
that now is a consequence of the violent way the new authorities came to power there he even said that he sympathizes to those peaceful protesters who took part in the rallies in ukraine since mr putin says he understands why they needed this political change after so many years of political turmoil but he said unfortunately as a result of the protests no nazis came to power russia can't even negotiate with since even if they wanted to meet with the ukrainian minister right now they need approval from gunmen on mind on. but also through executive. nationally sooner. because they. were stirring up into russian sentiments in this suit defining the
political stage in ukraine many of these state bodies are now this service by people who claim to. officials they don't control the situation in their own country so we have no one to negotiate with they're very often controlled by a radical in order to visit some one of the ministers you can need to get permission from the gunmen out on the my done. the president also talks about how for all these years russia recognized ukraine's territorial integrity and without any questions saw the crimea as part of the ukraine but he said unfortunately the rights of ethnic russians living there of millions of ethnic russians living in that region were violated including by several new laws passed just recently by the new interim government which team stormed to power in kiev for
talking about the crimea itself and said that the referendum which has just taken place there in which over ninety six percent local population voted to unite with russia called it a truly historic event he talked a lot about the history between russia and crimea saying that it's one sort of historic body and this close ties that we've had he said that. in itself is a city a legend with tremendous historic importance and ties and you would buy many russians as a russian city he did also shed some light on the political plans that have happened if the crimea was to become part of the russian federation saying that all of the peoples living there and mainly it's the ethnic russians crimean and the crimean ethnic russians ukrainians rather and crimean tyrants ours they
would all share the same rights enjoy equal rights and that there would be three state languages russian ukrainian and thoughts are. thank you so much for bringing us the highlights of president borden's statement made to the upper house of parliament regarding the situation in crimea and now we have in the studio mark sloboda just for somebody who may be just joining us here on the national mark we have been talking about presence wouldn't statement and it's interesting to get your reaction to what he was saying and also how what happened today is truly historic moment both of us witnessed here in the studio will be received elsewhere in the world what kind of reaction i mean can you predict coming out of the west to what we just saw and heard well of course the reaction from the west will be entirely negative they have already denounced the referendum in crimea
and said that they will not recognize it and they have recently. sanctions against members of the russian and the crimean government structures. but the west is not the world and the wider world will very well have very different reactions towards this in his speech president putin alluded to a word of thanks to the governments of the people's republic of china and india for their understanding china abstained during the u.n. security council vote and statements from the indian government. said that russia had legitimate interests in the ukraine and i think this counter opposed with the strong denunciations of the westerns actions not only now but through the years that have led to this situation is a further indication that russian foreign policy will increasingly. not of its own
choice be moving further east and looking towards a more multipolar world and moving itself away from a western oriented i was just going to say that in fact i asked you you know why. you just had to mean the president wouldn't thanking china and india. for their support i mean does that signify sort of russia's moving eastward in its policies and economics as well i mean we look at sanctions imposed on russia and again threat of more sanctions and then isolating russia economically politically etc i mean as you said the west is not the whole world i mean there's also eastern partners instead of or so how do you see relationships developing in the future ok well russia's and particularly europe's economies are at the moment extremely interdependent. europe and the u.s. hoped that european sanctions would. have russia just
surrender its interests in the ukraine and accept this putsch government russia. realizing that any european actions would also. harm them as we have seen recently resistance to sanctions against russia by european business leaders and several governments within the european union that they are so interdependent at this point that any sanctions any kind of economic maneuvering would only hurt each other in this way russian foreign policy it feels that it's being held hostage and with wealth with power in the world increasingly moving to asia to the east i think this would be a very wise opportunity for russia to galvanize economic and popular sentiment more in line with putin's earlier announced if it in other words strength this
position in the east and look for more partnerships and alliances they are both economically and politically but then again you know looking at the sanctions and detrimental effect on the relationship between. russia and the west and also the treaties that could have been signed looking at different sort of partnerships and trade with you were up and other things i mean look is it all really worth it why is it that the west was prepared to sacrifice that. well that's an extremely important question and i think it gets to the heart of the matter the ukrainian government and russia both repeatedly in the beginning of this crisis when the e.u. was trying to force the ukraine to make what they call the civilizational choice and join this e.u. association agreement i didn't know any possibility of trilateral negotiations between the three parties even when it was requested by the u.k. me repeatedly they have indicated a complete lack of desire to accommodate russia's interests and their reflections
of the economic realities on the ground of the importance of russia has by far the biggest trade partner with the ukraine this is a big mistake in european foreign policy and they're starting to recognize this now in fact there is reportedly a big disagreement even on sanctions where european union members such as cyprus finland latvia and the pigs portugal italy greece and spain which of course are suffering economically very hardly themselves are reacting very negatively to the idea of harsh sanctions on russia because it would hurt their own economies in this case absolutely wal-mart just want to remind our viewers maybe just joining us here at this point that we have been discussing the agreements on sebastopol in crimea crimea is integration into russia that has been signed we saw we witnessed this is stuart moment here we also heard president putin making
a statement to the upper house of russian parliament addressing the situation in ukraine in crimea making very important key points there saying that russia does not want the breakup of ukraine and. just a raising different of very very important issues there will return to the studio to talk about the significance of what we just heard and the implications of what's what are the possible things that are likely to happen next but before that we can talk to correspond to ski. to bring us the mood and the atmosphere where you are now what's happening there. well right where i'm standing right now in the central of sin for all part of the capital of crimea the party hasn't started yet but people are gathering and considering that they've been partying since sunday is ever since the referendum even though it was still unclear then whether russia would actually accept crimea
as part of its territory they have been celebrating and there's no doubt that they will be celebrating tonight again and we also seen pictures coming from save us from yellow to from the cities in the south of the peninsula by the seaside people have been watching the address by president bush into the federation's council live on t.v. screens and they're already pretty much in celebration mode another historic moment i can to describe to you right now behind me the building of the crimean parliament and people are now taking down the letters of the parliament which was on the walls ever since ukraine became a soldier in state in one thousand nine hundred one so this is pretty much history in the making as we see it here and if you put it into perspective. one point five million people who are eligible to vote in the referendum on sunday one point two million people actually voted to be part of russia and as little as thirty two thousand actually voted to be part to remain as part of ukraine i've actually struggled to meet any crimea's here in simferopol who were against the referendum i
did meet some of those to be honest but it was a it was a really vast minority i would say the vast majority of the people here have been really wanting to join a rejoin russia and for them it's been something like we are going home that is the sentiment i've been hearing here in central park and we are certainly expecting a huge party tonight here just as everywhere across the peninsula. right alexa thank you very much for bringing us the very latest and in fact the mood in the atmosphere affirms a masterful right now we can. a look at other implications and in fact what the sanctions have been doing and russia has been suspended has been suspended from participating in g. eight summits according to the french foreign minister and a senior official in moscow lamented the decision but said it wouldn't affect russia's relations with member states what would you know discuss this further with correspondent paul you called well polly as we just seeing here are they threatened
this might happen and it looks like it has them what more can you tell us. well the french foreign the french foreign minister laurent fabius tweeted a little earlier that russia has indeed been suspended from participating in g eight meetings and summits to really ram the point home he said that there would be a now g seven meeting this evening without russia's inclusion now that i'm a person is still however invited to france in june along with our leaders and so we're seeing that there is certainly a lot of stake for russia perturbative carrot as well and the kremlin is interpret saying that really it's business as usual the president russian president's press secretary said a little bit earlier that russians russia's foreign policy hasn't changed despite the very harsh rhetoric to come from g. seven nations in moscow continues to work with their foreign partners in much the
same way they did before but it's clear that the u.s. and the e.u. don't see it that way they made it very clear that if russia was to recognize the crimean referendum well then there would be repercussions and we can take a listen to us and leaders talking about that right now. there will be additional and far reaching consequences i have signed a new executive order that expands the scope of our sanctions measures against twenty one individuals responsible to. direct. so yesterday so yesterday we heard that there would be asset freezes and travel bans for around twenty one crimean and russian officials linked to the crimean referendum on dinner cards to the effect of those sanctions well europe is pretty
split on it so on the one hand we have in europe who are saying that the sanctions simply aren't harsh enough that pretty toothless on the other hand there are those politicians and business leaders in europe who say that in its current economic situation europe simply can't afford to impose harsher sanctions on russia we can take a listen to the polish foreign minister talking about that now. do you. think there's so much for bringing this and someone always there of course let's move on now to the question of referendum do tell us more any shifting of positions there what sort of reaction there. their european leaders are extremely found on the fact that the crimean referendum they say is against ukrainian and international law but
other leaders around the world share the same opinion let's take a listen to the argentinian president giving us her opinion of the crimean referendum. it's impossible to continue going on to. their approach depends on the each country you're dealing with in the case of crimea it turns out the referendum. when the full. determination this doesn't stand up. or i probably think is so much for this and. now let me bring you the highlights of what has been happening here in the last thirty minutes crimea has officially become part of the russian federation the potentials reunification with russia took effect just minutes ago when an agreement was signed by the russian president and the crimean authorities report an address parliament earlier saying the referendum in crimea which showed overwhelming support for joining russia took place in full accordance with international law the
russian president also stressed that moscow could not ignore crimea as appeal for help after a violent cool overthrew the legitimate government of ukraine. of course here on c.n.n. national were closely following the very latest developments here in the studio we have more botha who is international affairs an expert mark we have been discussing the situation in the wild during the last thirty minutes or so while we witnessed a historic moment for both russia crimea and sebastopol you know witnessing the signing of an agreement. in crimea as integration and of course the official one still to come on tuesday we just heard our correspondent paula boyd talking about the sanctions and. just recently russia has been suspended from participating in g. eight summits according to the french foreign minister so as we see and hear the
language of threats and sort of you know cold war and sanctions still goes on. yeah it must be said about these types of sanctions and this exclusion from the g eight that these are essentially toothless measures there's very little leverage here to play on russia and all of the western foreign policy commentators have you know to get back to the russians who were mentioned as being victims of these sanctions or sensually laughing at office because they have no assets in the united states in fact a part of president putin's key drive in the last few years has been the coupling are russian political and business elites connections with the united states and the european union and in fact this could actually be seen as helping this endeavor of making sure that russian elites keep their interests focused on russia for it well senior official in moscow yack to this i mean he did the decision of
course he said but he said it would affect russia's relations with member states you know what's interesting here is that let's compare now the blog g a and g. twenty of which russia has a career which one according to you has more significance more influence in the world ok well the g eight is well past its sell by date it was essentially manufactured the inclusion of russia originally as a kind of reward for yeltsin for going along with western expansion of nato and the expansion of the further and further east so the body has never really had any significant interest. in influence in the world at all and certainly in terms of economic matters and. any economic body that doesn't include india china. indonesia mexico and several other important
economic players in the world and it. has no credibility whatsoever all right well that as far as foreign policy is concerned and russia's relationship was the blogs the g eight and its influence in g twenty which as i said earlier russia is a creator of but let's now go back to the situation in ukraine i mean what will be happening in government there is not in control and the situation room i actually sort of slide into chaos there would you agree or disagree as to what extent the. putin stressed during his speech that this porch that has seized power in kiev is completely illegitimate and that russia sees no partner for negotiations or discussions there and those not recognize at all he did this in this conversation the government of the ukraine is bankrupt it is heavily. at this point that there
are large russian ethnic and russian speaking populations throughout the east in the south that are gathering in the hundreds of thousands trying to take government buildings much as the. did in kiev to better reflect their interests and elect their own political leaders demanding referendums and raising the russian flag as a symbol of their cultural and identity loyalties so this which regime in kiev is an extremely dangerous situation it can't rely on the military to protect it or to exert its domination throughout the rest of the country and quite frankly i don't expect that it could even last three months but you know what speaking of the situation there i mean it of of course important talk about the security of people. because ukraine is malta ethnic and how safe do you think russia ethnic russians will be there there were russian ethnics are clearly extremely frightened
and we have had numerous occasions mostly ignored by the western press that their interests will be entirely in the galactic and indeed that there will be attempts to take away their language rights and their identities forcing what could be called a. western ukrainian culture forcibly on the people of the eastern and southern ukraine and this is heavily reflected in the diktats that have come out of this government and in its composition where it marks the lower i'd like to thank you very much for your comments here and for talking us through what we saw earlier and earlier we saw president wouldn't making a statement to the upper house of russian parliament and in fact we witness a historic moment there an agreement on sebastopol in crimea as integration that has been signed mark we might return to you later for more of your insight and analysis for now though we can go live to the kremlin and talk to veronica question
what is director of the institute for foreign policy research at initiatives and of course she has been there watching the russian president give his address veronica thank you so much for joining us here on our team first off what a report doesn't address many of grain in crimea related issues in his speech but what specifically stood out to you as the most important ones do share your thoughts with us. one of the most wonderful. for you it was a very humorous right so we. think this is a great piece he said we saw this way. at all but it's about stories for. president to make something very trite the. reason they. rushed. and so what we strains for example she says is that you are claiming you remain whole seriously think it's wrong. but thank god the courts
but there are people. in this resonates much also a person that i. think that for me it would have st which one works russia ukraine and the crimea couple that's and i'm looking to the importance to make statements like these for the minority. also president leading from the lungs of the soul the difference this bill puts so i trust. ninety six of the russians ninety six percent of the russian support c.t.c. should want to write and of all the political sense the russian. supports these posts which strongly starts even if it costs too much. i would like to know as we speak and as we heard the president
borden speech and statement there to the upper house of parliament you know he spoke about the west and its position on crimea and addressed the people of ukraine the usa and germany of course explaining the russia's stance. what will be other we auction to that statement from the west do believe his appeal will be heard abroad . many people should think it was position that he's like you russia and indeed should here on the whole sequence of united states chip cookies things that would be if i please please russia these loyalists ring. that old school or these threads. what i didn't. feel so you with the boys. is my nation
some of them were said that should mean more when sales to their mean they should keep russia should be swallowed probably also the moment where the dam was what democracy means the people that specific country and that's the city. more than ninety six percent don't write me to say that they want to please russia and what's very important to their great profits is those only that you start. wondering where this whole thing. that's that's a wonderful story. indeed we miss him very historic moments there for both russia and ukraine and the crimea and i'd like to think you have a tour. for your inside and for sharing your thoughts there was director of the institute for foreign policy research and initiatives who joins us live from there
to talk about the implications and the highlights of president putin statement there to the upper house of parliament now. less than half an hour ago i'd like to bring you some of the highlights to let you know what happened for some of you maybe just joining us here crimea officially became part of the russian federation their reunification agreement was signed by the crimean authorities and the russian president after law to report an address lawmakers in the kremlin we have correspondents in ukraine we have you were pissed off has been following president bush's address here live in moscow let's now talk to you gore and i want to now to bring us the highlights talk us through what the president had to say well it was a massive and a very comprehensive speech by the president he spoke a lot. about ancient history of relations between russia and ukraine russia and the west and of course russia and the crimea he spoke and commented on the western
accusations that russia has broken international war saying that moscow did not increase the twenty five thousand troop limit that it has their stations support of the black sea navy fleet in accordance with the agreement reached earlier with ukraine you also talked about and commented on the accusations that this was a military occupation of the southeastern parts of ukraine saying that there are no examples in history of an occupation or aggression by one state or another state without one single shot fired unlike what happened in yugoslavia and iraq of ghana stand with. our western partners led by the us but i prefer to use
a strong hand which they believe the unique. interests by god to decide the fate of other people the pressure of the states to get the resolution in the way they need and if they can do it they ignore the security council's that was the case in one thousand nine hundred ninety in yugoslavia then we had afghanistan. they distorted the resolution of the un on libya they didn't just minister a no fly zone. libya. the president also spoke about the course saying that by recognizing its independence from serbia the west created a precedent and in now the way the same countries have been approaching the situation around the crimea according to the president isn't only based on double
standards but it's cynical. to hear from our colleagues in the west and europe they say that we are violating the norms of international law it's good that they remember that international law still exists it's better late than never. cry means used to cause severe is a precedent. set the precedent themselves with their own hands. in a situation which is completely the same. situation in crimea is. recognized . and they proved you do naturally need permission from the central authorities to declare your country is sovereign one. mr putin also stressed that russia is not against nato and wants to cooperate with the alliance but at the same time he pointed out that moscow doesn't want to have this
military alliance right at its back door he said that he hopes this position would be understood in the west and in the united states and of course in germany but putin says that russia is under pressure from the west because of its independent stance independent position which according to the president the situation russia's been dealing with this for quite some time now but the whole crisis in ukraine was the red line that russia just simply could not ignore. this deal coolness there is simply because we have an independent position that we are. call a spade a spade. we're not hypocritical but everything has its limits and in the case of ukraine our western partners have crossed a line a red line big nonprofessional they've been irresponsible. the president also
addressed. directly saying that moscow's actions are not aimed against them are aimed to harm them in fact he's been saying that for all these years russia recognizes without any questions the crimea as part of ukraine and to respect its territorial integrity but he says that he even sympathizers to those who took part in the peaceful parts of the protests in ukraine the recent protests in ukraine but when they turned violent and the way the new authorities came to power this is sort of also another consequence of that he said that the current afterwards in kiev have no legitimacy in fact it's almost impossible even to negotiate with them. at least. also who executed the. nationalists. because they.
were stirring up into russian sentiments and they still defined the political stage in ukraine many of the state bodies are now deserve. people who claim to be officials they don't control the situation in their own country so we have no one to negotiate with they're very often controlled. you know to to visit someone of the minister. you can need to get permission from the gunmen out on the my done and finally of course the president spoke about the crimea itself holding the tremendous historic and ethnic ties between russia and the crimea he said that the. referendum which has just been held during which ninety six percent over that amount of locals voted to join russia he said it was a truly historic event and also shed some light on what we need to see what sort of political system and policies when we see there in the future saying that all of
the nationalities living there will enjoy same equal rights especially when it comes to their own the preserve and preservation of their cultures and languages in fact mr putin said that crimea would have three official languages russian ukrainian and taught are. think it so much for bringing us the highlights of president's address and for somebody who may be just joining us here on our chief international our top story today is that crimea has officially become part of the russian federation we're discussing this with our correspondents who are on the ground in ukraine and all the major cities there and closely watching the developments in crimea are the issue regions of ukraine of course with post-coup government drawing little support there pro in japan israelis are growing stronger we can now cross live to our correspondent paula who is in the eastern city of donetsk for us well paula do bring us the mood from where you are i mean how
different is it from the atmosphere in crimea. where people here in the eastern ukrainian city didn't stop watching closely the developments in crimea and indeed in the russian parliament there is a crowd gathering right now in lenin square indeed they gather they every day and they're also calling for a referendum to be held here they saying much the same things that people in crimea are saying and that is that they want to be reunited that is the word they use with russia but by comparison whereas the seas coming out of crimea are ones of celebration you have to read is what most of these people are afraid of a crackdown that is being carried out by what they call i mean eco government in kiev this seems to be. and orchestrated campaign against protest leaders we were hearing about the one and two key of edo who has been detained in the city of dissent we understand that he has been sent back to kids but as of yet no wood in terms of where he is or how we is despite this people here are defiant there is
a ban on all protests and rallies the people telling me that they're going to go ahead with these demonstrations against the government they're particularly concerned about the extremist elements in this government and also its fascist leanings there's also a movement of army vehicles making their way from the waist towards the border with russia and people have formed themselves into self defense units if you look at the footage you can see the self-defense units trying to stop these armored vehicles and in one particular incident a man literally lay down on the ground to try and stop the vehicles passing over him he was pulled to safety by his comrades at the last moment so the mood here one of my knees one of watching closely what is happening in crimea and even some people telling me that they feel a bit afraid they're afraid of these extremist elements in the kiev government they're afraid of the crackdown against any voices of dissent and they're also
afraid that as they become more and more vocal so they could be a wasted these tanks and a movement is also something that people here are monitoring very very closely. for a poet thank you so much for bringing us the atmosphere from the eastern city of the quality of your reporting there in the studio with me i have more sobota who is an international affairs expert here all you know mark what paula just said and the way she described the atmosphere in the near it's kind of resonated with what we talked about earlier you know the concern about russian speaking people and ethnic russians living in ukraine as paul was just saying people are not feeling secure there what can be done about the situation if anything at all in your opinion well it's going to be. really difficult situation we've seen these large protests continue for the last week and i can only expect that they will continue to grow the putsch regime in kiev has appointed several all of our to directly control regions in the east with the assumption that they will repress these
protest movements and the implication that they will hire armed thugs out of their own pockets to help them do this we've seen the arrival of water cannons and yesterday this is extremely worrying we've seen political leaders activists and protesters that have been kidnapped and are being held hostage as political prisoners by this regime and more ominously several activists and journalists have been disappeared this is extremely troubling and with russia still insisting that if the. regime in kiev continues to abuse the rights of the people in east and southern ukraine who did not respect its usurpation of the country and its authority that they will react to protect those people mark what's interesting here is that why is the west turning
a blind eye to all of this i mean why is there no vocal reaction or condemnation of what's happening there pure geopolitics geopolitics we we've seen this again and again from western regimes we've seen it in libya and syria where they turn a blind eye it completely and willfully ignoring the abuses of those it supports as they carry out its geo political interests and what we see in the ukraine is the western governments and the press openly in a race and in trying to whitewash open fascists and neo nazis and other alter nationalists not only on the streets but in the government of kiev with the so. in that as long as most of their hatred is directed towards russia and ethnic russians be they in russia or in the ukraine that is perfectly acceptable. well we earlier touched upon the sanctions that are imposed against russia and again you know the
threats keep coming the latest one being that russia was suspended from participating in g. eight summits according to the french foreign minister how much of a blow do you think this is for russia i don't think it's a blow at all the g eight has for years been nothing more than a talking shop nothing of any significance is the cited it's mostly an opportunity for. photo ops with various government leaders and the pretense that russia is part of the western world when the west never actually treats it as an equal partner right well markel will be shortly talking to our correspondent pollie boyko. yes she can join us and perhaps tell us more about the language of sanctions and specifically the latest one russians russia spanish and from participating in the g. eight summit according to french minister well can you hear me. yes you
do it do tell us more about this i mean what sort of implications will that have threatened as we know this might happen and it looks like it has we heard from the for a french foreign minister earlier do bring us more on this. well first of all it was done in a very twenty first century way the french foreign minister laurent fabius he tweeted that russia would be suspended from participating in g eight meetings and summits to really ram the point home he said that the g seven as it now is would be meeting as early as this evening without russia he did however say that blood made putin is still invited to visit france in june when a number of other world leaders will be going there as well so we're seeing a lot of stick coming in from russia but also bit of carrot as well which of course the kremlin is interpreting as business as usual the russian president's press secretary spoke a little bit earlier he said that russia's foreign policy hasn't changed despite
the very tough rhetoric coming from the g. seven nations moscow continues to work with its foreign partners much in the way it did before but it's clear that the u.s. and the e.u. simply don't see it that way they made it extremely clear in the run up to the crimean referendum that if russia recognized it well then there would be huge repercussions let's take a listen to us and e.u. leaders talking about that right now there will be additional and far reaching consequences i have signed a new executive order that experience the scope of our sanctions strict measures against twenty one individuals responsible to. direct. so yesterday we heard that there would be asset freezes and visa travel bans for around twenty one crimean and russian officials linked to the crimean referendum
and the response to these sanctions imposed on russia has been pretty splits in europe actually on the one hand there are. some commentators in europe who say that the sanctions simply aren't tough enough on russia the frankly pretty toothless on the other hand there are voices in among politicians and business leaders in europe who say that considering europe's economic situation at the moment well they simply can't afford to go down the route of sanctions against russia so let's take a let you into the foreign minister talking about that now. so you. know what paul you want to browse. around i mean we've heard different words today we've heard different reactions and
a change in position towards that at all. well european leaders have been extremely on the rejecting the referendum they say that it's by ukrainian and international law we're going to have william hague talking about it shortly so i will update you on that very soon but from across the globe there have been other leaders that don't share the european position in relation to the crimean referendum i believe you can take a listen to the argentinian president giving her opinion on the crimean referendum now. it's impossible to continue playing the role of. security in their approach depends on which country you're dealing with in the case of crimea it turns out the referendum is a bad thing but when the full. determination this doesn't stand up. probably thank you so much for bringing this day to and some of the analysis
probably boy go there for now we might return to you later for more analysis of reactions and the very latest information but right now though i'd like to return to the studio to mark sloboda who is an international affairs expert and mark well we've been here in the studio for more than an hour now looking at what's happening in the world and boy is it just any minute there is something happening and we hear a new information specifically probably just was bringing us the latest reaction to what's happening to a referendum to russia's signing of sebastopol and crimea integration the latest is that russia has been suspended from participating in g. eight summits and earlier we heard threats and sanctions imposition of sanctions. i'd like now to talk a little bit more about what we heard from other analysts especially veronica question who is director of the inside of foreign policy research and initiatives who brought her input and analysis of the situation and specifically looking. at
the situation in crimea and the referendum i'd like to get your thoughts now and analysis on this i mean look many analysts have different views on this however the situation in crimea was compared to the situation for example in ukraine i mean declaring back in the years of the breakup of the soviet union declaring independence crimea refer to the un charter and so did he crane when it became independence from the soffit union why is it now that the reaction towards this is different well the reaction is different again because this is a matter of people expressing self-determination in favor of joining russia and we saw this recently again just back in two thousand and eight with the conditions of south the said. and we've seen it. earlier with the position of transnistria which interestingly enough just this morning reiterated
its request to join the russian federation as well well certainly a very interesting reaction and analysis of this and of course i cannot mention here the double standard approach yeah there is a huge double standard we have seen numerous examples of referendums of separations throughout the years. most recently we've seen it in south sudan we've seen it in cos of oh we saw it with. montenegro we saw it with croatia and the double standard is always this that any. secession any referendum movement with a referendum or not that is in favor of western geo political interests is approved and any that it's not regardless of the actual sentiments this the will of the people on the ground is completely rejected and. well. and speaking specifically
about the situation i mean the west is pursuing the policy of containing a russia i'm just quoting what president putin said earlier in a statement to the upper house of parliament i mean it seems like the west sees russia in this particular case as an aggressor why's that. the west particularly the united states views itself as the sole remaining superpower as head you monic leader of the world order that is responsible for guaranteeing its course of development and its stability along with their lines and. of any regional great powers such as russia china or perhaps even in the south america the ball a very in countries that seek. this world order that they feel ideologically
they have a right to establish and to force on the rest of the world receives a bit of. negative reaction to say the least well you know a speaking of the negative reaction of the negativity that's been building up in the world. what other steps can the west take to isolate russia politically and economically i mean speaking of russia's participation in different international organizations different blogs could this be suspended as well. there is a possibility the problem with these other international organizations is they also include members of the rest of the world that doesn't share the sentiments on the west when it comes to russia. there is the possibility that several european focused. organizations could lead to calls for russia to be rejected but quite
frankly at this point i would actually expect the russian government to start withdrawing from these european organizations themselves as they don't reflect the interests of russia. and that they have continually been used as effectively foreign policy instruments against russia among them the european court of human rights and the organization of security and cooperation in europe. earlier we mentioned briefly a russia is sort of changing its. focus and looking eastwards how much benefits well the give to russia and the east well the potential benefits are of course enormous the eastern part of russia has been largely economically unviable of throughout much of its history and it's primarily a been a source of natural resources but with the economic dynamism and the capital flows of the word. moving from west to east the dynamic dynamics not only of china but
also of japan southeast asia. this is where the future of the world is so interesting that you mention that you know sorry for interrupting you because i just remembered that not so and i think it's important to mention here that a very short while ago we had the crossing arsk anomic forum taking place in the far east so that again highlighting the importance of the development of the region and one of the key sort of issues there was attracting investment into that part to carry on north yeah. that is exactly the focus these economics meetings that took place in. new york but also in a lot of boston as well this the administration has clearly iterated they are making an asian pivot of their own and unlike the us asian pivot which is focused on moving military forces to counter a growing strength of china in terms of naval strength. in the
pacific ocean russia's focus is of their asian pivot is economics and cooperation with china and other southeast asian powers which again are the most dynamic and economically. growing regions of the world right now right well mark as we speak here's the very latest that we're hearing from foreign secretary of britain william hague who says that he regrets that president putin has chosen a route to isolation by moving to incorporate crimea into russia here we go. the west again continually think it represents the world ok. we have seen previously with much much harsher economic sanctions that have been placed on iran that iran was not isolated from the world it was only isolated from the west if the west seeks to isolate russia from it they will only push it in. in the arms of
china and in the doing themselves a reputable economic arm in the process not to mention the strategic to the global geopolitical implications that we continue to keep our fingers firmly on the pulse here of the latest developments and for now though thank you so much for your analysis and insight will be returning to you throughout the day to get more of your thoughts right now that i'd like to make a reminder to some of our viewers maybe just joining us of what happened here in the last hour or so so the crimea has officially become part of the russian federation and the peninsula's reunification with russia took effect just minutes ago when an agreement was signed by the russian president and the crimean authorities but ima put an address to parliament earlier saying the referendum in crimea which showed overwhelming support for joining russia took place in full accordance with international law the russian president also stressed that moscow could not ignore crimea as appeal for help after a violent cool overthrew the legitimate government of ukraine while you're watching r t international we'll take
there's no more. nato. you don't say sorry. russia and crimea sign or even vacation or treaty after president ford and gives a speech on the ground and declaring the referendum on the peninsula to have been fully in line that with international law. my family moscow which nineteen a national with me wearing a josh and top story here russian crimea have sealed an agreement on a unification of a historic treaty that was signed by the crimean government and the russian president after he addressed lawmakers in the kremlin is a gorgeous going off followed line or putin speech and joins us live now well hello gary gore what exactly does the treaty mean and what did the president say on the issue well the president and the crimean officials did sign this so unification
agreement but it's still not a done deal since according to. this constitution this agreement has to be proved by the constitutional court it has to be ratified by the parliament and the constitution itself will have to be changed if a new entity was to enter the russian federation and the president actually has called on russian lawmakers now to conduct all these procedures in his statement also in his statement he said that everything that's happening now concerning russia and crimea is strictly based on the overwhelming. will of. people in russia according to various opinion pause and most importantly the recent referendum which was held in itself which called of a truly historic event in which over ninety six percent of the local population voted to join russia and vladimir putin said that when western countries recognized
the independence of kosovo where there was a similar situation this created a precedent and the way. of dealing with the situation around here according to mr putin isn't only based on double standards but it's pure cynicism. what do we hear from our colleagues in the west and europe they say that we are violating the norms of international law it's good that they remember that international law it still exists it's better late than never. cry means used to cause severe is a precedent western partners have said this precedent themselves with their own hands. in a situation which is completely the same to the situation in crimea is. recognized. and the prudes you do naturally need permission from central authorities to declare your country is sovereign one.
the president also commented on accusations that russia has conducted a military intervention in the crimea saying that moscow did not exceed the twenty five thousand troop limit on the. contingent that it has based in the crimea in accordance with agreements reached earlier with ukraine he said he doesn't remember any examples in the history of the world where military intervention would be possible without any shots fired unlike what happened in iraq afghanistan and libya. which our western partners led by the us prefer to use right of a strong hand which they believe the unique. interests by god to decide the fate of other people they pressure the states to
get the resolutions the way they need and if they can do they ignore the security council's that was the case in one thousand nine hundred nine in yugoslavia then we had afghanistan iraq and then they distorted the resolution of the un on libya they didn't just a no fly zone. bombed libya. the president also made it very clear that moscow is fully aware of the sort of consequences the unification with the crimea will lead to when it comes to russia's relations with the west and he stressed that he hopes western countries would understand russia's stance saying that moscow wants to cooperate with nato but it doesn't want to have the military alliance in its back door basically which is also
been saying that for years russia has been pressured by the west for having an independent stance and it's been dealing with the situation but ukraine according to god's will was the red line. we're always coolness and that's because we have an independent position that we are. defending it's we call a spade a spade. we're not hypocritical but everything has its limits and in the case of ukraine. crossed the line right there we don't professional to be responsible. but are also address ordinary ukrainians directly saying that the relationship with kiev is extremely important to moscow and also stressing that these actions are not aimed to harm ukraine's in fact the president has been saying that for years russia respected and recognized the ukraine's territorial integrity
and ukrainian strictly as a port of ukraine's territory but he said that unfortunately the rights of ethnic russians are living there while it is what we're seeing now is another reaction to that situation there as well which and even said that he sympathizes to those ukrainians who took part in peaceful protests in the peaceful part of those protests in ukraine saying he understands why they needed political change in the country but putin says unfortunately. the protests led to a violent uprising which brought to power people who. can't negotiate with right now. at least. but also who executed the. nationalists. stirring up into russian sentiments in this suit defines the political stage in ukraine many of these state bodies are now deserve. people who claim to be officials they don't control the situation in their
own country so we have no one to negotiate with they're very often controlled. you know to to visit someone of the ministers you can need to get permission from the gunmen out on the my done. who is also said that another reason why this is happening and why overwhelming majority of crimean voted to reunite with russia is that ultra right nationalist right coming from the new authorities in kiev since the ethnic russians living in those parts of ukraine or now in the independent crimea they felt simply threatened by the new afterwards and by the new policy policy which passed including the laws banning russian as the official languages in these regions even though the overwhelming population of
people living there are ethnic russians and over ninety percent of everyone living there including tires ukrainians and russians they consider russian as their native language and the president shed some light on what sort of policies we may see in the future in the in the crimea if it joins with russia and that is equal rights for all the nationalities of living there including ukrainians russians and ours and that the same goes for all languages as well and said that there is a part. official languages in crimea russian ukrainian and thoughts are. already or thank you so much for bringing us the highlights i was working off reporting pramod from moscow and for a look at the mood on the peninsula let's now cross live to. our in crimea for us so what's been the mood there are like. well we obviously
expecting some sort of party to start in the capital of crimea since that all people have been pretty much celebrating over the last two days monday was a day off here and the bars and restaurants were filled with jubilant people you know it's if we look at the numbers of the people who took part in this referendum of one point five million people who are eligible to take part in the referendum a little on the one point three million actually voted and one point two million voted for crimea becoming part of russia with a little more than thirty two thousand actually saying no. that should stay as part of ukraine indeed i've been struggling to find those in simferopol who have been supporting the idea of crimea staying within the territory of ukraine the overwhelming majority here has been supporting this idea of joining russia we have seen live pictures coming from the city of sevastopol in the south of the peninsula in the city of yeltsin where people were watching the address of russian president to the federal council in moscow on big life screens the jubilation has indeed
already started the sentiment which i've been hearing here in simferopol and pretty much everywhere across the crimean peninsula is that we are going home for the people here for the majority of the people here this is something of a historical justice being set in the right in the right manner so that is the mood here right now with certainly expecting more reaction from the people overnight broadly some concert in the central square but another historic moment we've just witnessed here in front of the crimean parliament building is the. these letters over there saying the crimea and highest council both in ukrainian language are being taken down by the people they are now laying on the floor these letters of these signs so this pretty much suggests what the atmosphere here in crimea is like right now. thank you so much for bringing us. amar crimea and closely watching the developments in crimea and of course other parts of the
country on the eastern regions of ukraine where the polls school government drawing little supported they're prone to pan israeli's are growing stronger now we can cross live to the east the eastern city of donetsk and we have polish they are paula do bring us the mood from where you are how is the atmosphere in the us different from that in crimea. wellcome trust into what we seeing and hearing coming out of crimea where there are scenes of celebration here there is almost a sense of an ease that is not to say that people here are not excited about the developments in crimea and indeed in the russian parliament is just that they are very afraid to express them too much alford plea in minsk where there is a crowd gathering and talking to some of the people there they say that they believe that what has happened to crimea is an important landmark in terms of what they want to see happening here people calling for a similar referendum to be held here in donetsk asking people whether or not they
want to be reunited with russia and the onset of that referendum is also presumably a foregone conclusion with many of the people i'm talking to saying that they cannot wait to be reunited with russia they talk about being reunited they talk about being russian in they so but at the same time there has been a crackdown on all rallies and demonstrations in the east of the country there is almost a crackdown on the leadership as well that is protesting against what they call an eagle government in kiev we are hearing about a protest leader who has been detained in odessa we understand that he has been taken to kiev but as of yet no information in terms of winking is or indeed how he is at the same time there's also this movement of armored vehicles making its way from western ukraine to the russian border and there have been self-defense units formed to try and prevent this movement of vehicles going forward now if you look at some of the footage you do seem members of the self-defense new units coming
forward if there is one. on the floor most trying to stop the vehicles from driving over him and at the last moment he was to safety so the mood here is one of excitement for what has happened here over a week since is one of my knees and consume as you have to crack down on voices of dissent as you have a government in power that people here tell me they continuously believe is not only illegal but has extremist tendencies and fascist leanings and the media is also one of romney's as you see this isn't a vehicle making the way to the country. all right paula thank you so much for bringing us correspondent of fall asleep reporting from. for. well russia has been suspended from british debating in g. eight summit according to the french foreign minister a senior official in moscow amanda at the decision but said i wouldn't affect
russia's relations with member states we now cross to our correspondent polly boyko for more on this. hollywood more can you tell us on a later development here russia suspension of the g eight summit. well while it's not just the french foreign minister who said it's now william hague as well he's currently debating what's just happened in parliament here in westminster and he said that he would gretz that president putin has chosen to go down the route to isolation by moving to incorporate crimea into russia he's confirmed what the french foreign minister tweeted a little bit earlier that the g eight meetings have been suspended and he said that it's likely that the g seven going to be holding their own meetings from now on so says russia has gone down a very route and of course the kremlin's interpretation of what's taken place over the past two days has been that it really is business as usual in relation to their
form. and partners the russian president's press secretary said a little bit earlier that russia's foreign policy hasn't changed despite the very tough rhetoric to come out from the g. seven nations he said that moscow continues to work with their foreign partners in much the same way they did before but it is clear that that is not the way that the u.s. and the e.u. see the situation and they made sure that the world knew that there would be repercussions as a result of russia recognizing referendum let's take a listen to us and e.u. leaders warning about that right now. there will be additional and far reaching consequences i have signed a new executive order that expands the scope of our sanctions strict measures against twenty one individuals responsible to figures in the future. through. direct transfer which is the choice.
so yesterday we learned that there would be asset freezes and travel visa bans imposed on around twenty one crimean and russian officials linked to the referendum in crimea and the response to imposing these sanctions in europe has been quite splits on the one hand you have those commentators in europe to simply say that these sanctions aren't harsh enough response they say that frankly they're quite toothless on the other hand there are those in the politically there are those the business leaders who say that considering the economic situation in europe at the moment the e.u. simply can't afford to go down that route of sanctions against russia and i think we can take a listen to the polish foreign minister explaining that right now. the unit is closed. for. costs for the new sanctions and russia.
well bali things have been developing very rapidly here as we can hear and see but what about there were frowned itself i mean has there been any change in reactions perhaps a shift in positions towards it. no and i wouldn't expect any either the european leaders have been extremely far and saying that the referendum is in breach of both ukrainian and international law there's certainly no indication that william hague is about to recognize it during his debate in parliament at the moment but across the globe there have been other responses to the referendum in crimea let's take a listen to his argentinean president giving her opinion on what took place. it's impossible to continue playing the role of going to have local security when the approach depends on which country you're dealing with in the case of crimea it
turns out the referendum is a bad thing but when the full. determination this doesn't stand up to analysis. or you're watching r t international here paul we think it's so much for bringing us more reaction and more analysis and that was probably boyko reporting live from london for us thank you for keeping your fingers on the pulse of the developments there right now let me bring you the highlights of what's been going on here in our top story today is russia in crimea have sealed an agreement on reunification the story treaty was signed by the crimean government and the russian president after he addressed lawmakers and the kremlin came into force the moment it was signed but is still subject to formal cover confirmation from the constitutional court and the russian parliament addressing lawmakers while the report and the referendum in crimea which showed overwhelming support for joining russia took place in the accordance with international law the russian president also stressed that moscow
could not ignore crimea as appeal for help after a violent coup overthrew the legitimate government ukraine. well let's not discuss the statements made by the russian president and the reunification to signed with crimea with. to bob it was a political analyst for of the voice of a russia radio he's joining us live from moscow meter think of so much for joining us well president would make quiet a par a full address there do you think what he said made russia's position in crimea and ukraine in crisis in particular any clearer to the rest of the world. well i think that he for people in the west border to read his speech in full i think they're going to be impressed but i'm afraid they're going to satisfy with themselves where the colts which are already being carefully prepared by the mainstream media which of course uses which shall be used to present a russian position in a full slight i think it will put you know screw ticks inside russia who may be not
very sympathetic with the inclusion of crimea into the russian federation even though they will recognize there is a historical part off which in speech he's explanation of historic facts that led to this situation was pretty precise. well we've already heard some reaction from the west pacifically the u.k. foreign secretary who said that he regrets that president putin has chosen the route to isolation by deciding to incorporate crimea now do you believe isolation is what really awaits russia. well there sanctions which have been in polls so far were very incompetent the heat the wrong targets obviously for example you learn the music. she became in for infamous in the west because she was one of the initiate to solve the war on the banyan homosexual
propaganda to minus but she had a very very distant relationship to what happened in crimea so my impression is that the western leaders have just chosen the people who are most hated by the mainstream western press and by the liberal russian press and included them all into that list. seoul i'm not sure they're a future steps of the western governments will be a new wiser also i think the west sort of. short itself in the food because there are so many your friends before the rational man even direct sanctions already imposed on russia that now when they decided to impose real sanctions they have no leeway let me explain what i mean for example the west threatened to put on hold negotiations on the visa free regime between russia and the european union well the problem is that these negotiations have been going on
for ten years they were initiated by porton ten years ago in two thousand and three and so far they didn't yell down your result primarily because of the position of the e.u. so now when they say we're going to put them on hold is not going to impress many russians because it will rain he explained he expects these negotiations to last what way in his thirty maybe forty years so by it's anti russian by its intransigent positions you there you can precede in years the west incapacitated itself for imposing real sanctions right now. or it will retreat let's now take a look at the situation in ukraine and especially going back. what one reporter said in his address he also said that the ukrainian people are urging them not to believe that russia is looking to split the country does that mean that eastern ukraine which has also been pushing for refrained won't face a scenario similar to the one in crimea what are your thoughts on this. well
putin made it very clear that he doesn't have the same scenario for danielle scan credit card as the one that. had to be used in crime year it's very clear that it was not russia who split ukraine it was of a ukrainian nationalists who did what i think we can agree was a violent seizure of power in kiev. and by the preceding polish yes i mean for twenty three years that ukraine was independent there was no effort made to make russian speaking people in ukraine feel at home instead of creating them out here is the next stage where all minority s. would feel themselves ukrainians instead of trajan a civic nation the ukrainian presidents from the very beginning have been split in ukraine by not given russian the status of a state language or even of an official language by all their polish this so what happened in crimea was of course
a reaction to what happened in kiev weeks before which it made it very clear and certainly i don't think that the same scenario is forcibly kartik of let's not forget that cargo was the k. patrol or soviet ukraine in the plains years and sergius there are many ukrainian speaking people even are in the area around kartika in the villages so i don't believe in the same scenario with crimea it's indeed a special case because it was a lump together with what was then the ukrainian soviet socialist republic in one thousand fifty four by an arbitrary decision of the soviet leader nikita khrushchev and the putin in his speech characterized that. as you must utterly terry i'm told people who will be saying that what putin is doing is a return to the soviet union will be a lie and he criticized the soviet authorities you speech and he made it very clear that what we do is not gaining new territory it is primarily protecting the people of crimea where would we be finally before we let you go one more question here
ukraine just like most western countries says it doesn't recognize crimea as an independent state but would their recognition or in fact lack of it really change the situation. no it won't change anything we already have this experience with associate year and uprising which have not been recognized by the west for twenty three years but some call they survive the west says there are these territories are okupe fired by russia that's a blatant lie it's enough to go to our privacy and see that applies it is run by a presence the russians just provide protection from a possible takeover by the georgian affair also rita's violent takeover of course so it's clear already of their prize you will never return to georgia especially after the civil war that they had in the early ninety s in the same way it's already clear that crimea will never return to ukraine because the crimean people
don't want it they made it very clear not even their biggest critics all over. will say that the majority of great me and so want to go back to ukraine it's clear from any picture that you have coming to you from sevastopol from super robel from crimea and see just that people made up their mind they want to live in russia great mystery thank you so much for your inside that that was meant to be babied political analyst with the voice of rush hour radio talking to us live from a moscow well here is just a rubber ball the situation and for some of you maybe just joining us here on our team international. well what happened is that russia and crimea have sealed an agreement on reunification and now we have. our correspondent in central moscow who's been following the historic signing of that agreement you go or what do you have for us bring us the highlights of president president putin's address to the
upper house of parliament in fact that historic occasion a moment there well sure first let's recap on what happened today the president along with crimean officials signed the unification treaty between crimea and russia but it's not a done deal yet since under russia's constitution this agreement is now has to be approved by the constitutional court to analyze it on the matter of whether or not it coincides with the main a law of the constitution of course then it has to be ratified by parliament details have to be worked out as well like the borders of the future a member of the federation status and so on and the constitution itself will have to be changed if i knew and to be was to enter the russian federation and the president and the speaker and his hold on russian lawmakers to conduct all of these procedures mr putin also stressed that everything that's happening now is a direct result of the overwhelming will of the people on both sides both.
national nationwide opinion polls hold in russia over ninety percent support the idea of crimea. joining the russian federation and of course most importantly the referendum in crimea itself which was had just recently in which over ninety six percent of the locals voted to unite with russia and vladimir putin says that. when the western community recognize the independence of course it created a precedent and now the way the west has been approaching to the way the president has been approaching the west is going to. what situation in crimea is simply cynical. or thank you so much for bringing us the highlights to have been watching r t international and we'll be bringing you more news and analysis and of course we're keeping fingers on the poles here of the latest developments we'll be bringing that to you as we get them you're watching international do stay with us.
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well so now on monday the u.s. and european union imposed asset freezes and travel bans on officials from russia and ukraine as crimean leaders move forward with their all but certain plans to join russia following a vote on sunday now the voting could only two possible options for crimea one are you in favor of the reunification of crimea with russia as part of the russian federation or two are you in favor of restoring the one thousand nine hundred two constitution and the status of crimea as a part of ukraine now it's important to note that the one thousand nine hundred two constitution under which crimea is an autonomous republic within ukraine was later replaced by another one now there was no option to remain within ukraine under this new constitution now political and business leaders are worried that sanctions
placed on the kremlin will create economic meltdown in the economy. the e.u. and ukraine both of which have important trade relations with russia and depend on it for energy supplies now according to the world trade organization back in two thousand and thirteen just last year forty five percent of russia's five hundred twenty three billion dollars in exports went to the e.u. now two thirds of which was oil and natural gas last year russia imported three hundred forty four billion dollars worth of products from the e.u. with machinery and vehicles being among the biggest of imported items in two thousand and thirteen ukraine sold almost sixteen billion worth of products to russia it's the largest market with iron steel and cereal being its principal exports the u.s. is trade with ukraine is negligible by comparison it accounted for just two point five billion in both directions last year now lobel markets rallied monday after briefly falling on sunday's news that citizens of crimea voted overwhelmingly to
join the russian federation nearly ninety seven percent of crimea voted to break away from ukraine in a referendum that western nations and government officials in ukraine how publicly condemned calling it a legal and illegitimate however the russian government says it is in fact illegal now the white house said its current focus was on targeting particular individuals and their personal assets but quote not companies that they manage on behalf of the russian state the u.s. named eleven people that they plan to hit with sanctions while the e.u. named twenty one people you can find that on the u.s. is web site white house particularly this friday ukraine's lawmakers could sign a trade agreement with europe the first step towards e.u. membership and the deal also has the potential to stir more unrest in the country whatever happens will be sure to be watching and keeping you posted on all the latest.
our next guest is investor david case now tice is a chartered financial analysts who ran the well regarded behind the numbers institutional sell service from one thousand nine hundred seventy one thousand nine hundred six until he started the prudent bear mutual fund which he managed from one nine hundred ninety six until two thousand and eight he then sold pretty embarrassing federated investors now he's long been a critic of credit bubbles and an advocate of gold he utilizes gold stock investments to help his mostly short barracks mutual fund generate a compound annual return of eight percent for the ten years while the market had an annual decline of one percent this was up until two thousand and eight when he sold it now i spoke with david earlier and here's what he had to say. for a couple years i work with federated this is more of a marketing. transition with who took over for
a manager and then subsequent to actually have been involved in private equity investments are started cherry. produced a couple routes so no downtime for you it sounds like. now the federated put in bear fund that you use to run as a horrid time since you left now since the market lows in two thousand and nine it lost over sixty percent here's the question in the face of so much reflation how can one be bearish at this time. well really what i believe is that very similar to what happened ninety six to ninety nine and from zero three to zero seven essentially our policy makers have put band-aids on you know by inflating you know equity markets in this case by it and zero three to zero seven period they cut interest rates to one percent they engendered a housing bubble and the market went up five straight years but then it ended very
badly in zero eight what happened in zero nine to thirteen is we've got a zero interest rates and we have nobody wants to buy all our treasuries so we have utilized quantitative easing in the fed since greece's balance sheet by four trillion dollars and this is in genders. and that's going to end badly because i'm a believer in the austrian school of economics which really mirrors newton's law where every action there's an equal in opposite reaction or the magnitude of the magnitude the best is depended upon the excesses created during the prior boom and what we've done here quantitative easing is that the road to riches or argentina would have been one of the world's leaders and really their economies gone down you know nearly you know every decade for the last one hundred years and so we have been able to have two bailing wire and you know massive cave on this
recovery in order to have stock prices go up and it's very perilous david you bring up austrian economics i want to ask you can you briefly tell me what are some of the overarching economic principles behind austrian economics pacifically. the principles that most to find how you decide where to allocate capital for investing . what i just outlined as far as the magnet to the club the decline of the in proportional the excesses created during the prior bust they also point out about how the dangers of credit access and that you cannot is keep borrowing your way to prosperity there really prosperity comes from hard work and savings and investment not borrowing and as far as sometimes the austrians are not the great great isn't terms of market timing as far as asset allocation and i think most of
the people that predicted the zero eight decline and actually the odo to decline really had some austrian leanings and you know typically we are tend to be a little bit early i mean sometimes significantly too early and really we we know that it's going to end badly and we underestimate the degree to which our policy makers will perpetuate you know a bad situation because we recognize the more perpetuated the worse eventually gets and that's why it was so bad in zero eight was because and we didn't really finish curing the excesses from zero zero to zero two and then the consumer was already pretty over leveraged and then we got the consumer to borrow even more money with this aus and bubble and made a bunch of us consumers strapped by you know putting big mortgage debts around their necks. david are you still bearish on the market. i am
you know. i do feel is that if we're getting close to a period where the market is due for a significant setback we know that this quantitative easing is not you know the road to prosperity we've we've seen. foreign buyers treasuries we had the biggest selling week you know in history were one hundred billion dollars came out from foreign selling treasuries the price of gold is started to move up lately you know which is indicative kind of a canary in a coal mine are in we've seen earnings growth slowdown we have seen you know the economy has really slowed down a bit there has been a lot of attribution to weather which we don't necessarily believe but the market
sell it at a very very high price relative to average earnings precious metals i want to talk about this for a second our precious metals have had a fall from grace what do you attribute that fall last year too. well precious metals of had a bad couple years but really from. you know a period about twelve years ago they went up twelve straight years and so they were due for a setback frankly i am a believer in some conspiracy theory that some might call it but i do believe and the gaps because where gap to has talked about you know the fact that the banks and the central banks have essentially been involved trying to keep the price of gold down i do believe that gold does represent the canary in the coal mine where if the gold price starts to levitate it's going to scare
investors and when you look at quantitative easing being embraced by nearly all our major trading partners. there's been bernanke even made a speech about you know eight months ago when he was talking about if all countries around the globe made all our major partners all utilize quantitative easing an essentially print money then there's not going to be a race to the bottom in a competitive currency devaluation problem however gold represents an enemy you know it against that premise they're for. that was david tacey chief portfolio strategist for bear markets at federated investors. time out for a very quick break but stick around because when we return we're bringing you part two of my interview with author of junkyard plot a plan to excuse me junkyard planet adam minter is one my favorite guys so you got to stick around for that and in today's big deal edward harrison and i are
weaknesses in the global markets now out a mentor author of the book junkyard planet examines the junk trade and how it effects the global economy we spoke with adam earlier and learned about why he thinks underlying trash trends point to continued weakness i asked him about scrap in latin america in the global jump trade and how that factors in and here's what he had to say. right well in latin america is very interesting it's the one continent if you will that that hasn't become a major scrap exporter into china and china is you know it's number one in you know the chinese scrappers are very very very interesting they there's not a lot of transparency there's a lot of transparency there's no secrets and yet they don't go to latin america for two reasons one the quality of the scrap metal is not very high and you know when i say it's not very high it means that you know when you with the cars that are shredded there are shredded very old so there's a lot of rust on them and rust on scrap steel it actually it hurts the quality you
don't want to put that into a furnace as much as you ought to put clean steel in there so what you see and let america is it's still trading internally the scrap is moving around not just cars but things like cables. you know which like utility cables power lines that kind of thing it will still be recycled internally so it's not as much of a globalized market as other parts of the world mexico is becoming more and more of an exporter but it's also devouring more and more of the scraps from its name nearby neighbors and actually the u.s. exports quite a bit of a scrap into mexico as well but let america is probably the least globalized of the various strap because if you will that are out there now last time we spoke you met you mentioned there's this mexican scrap barrier and if you will that had this incredible amount of wealth and there's this junkyard but was stuck in his junkyard can you give me all the details that i really want to her viewers out there can you
explain that storage may. well what happened in this isn't unusual in mexico i mean you have a very very wealthy strip i mean most people think of that the junk industry is junk and maybe they think of fred sanford and sanford and son but in fact i mean once you reach once you reach a certain scale you know it's an extraordinarily lucrative business and make a lot of money and. and there was a junk dealer i probably shouldn't say who it is in mexico city you know has made it out of. he and his family were literally holed up in their scrap yard they couldn't leave because there was such a threat of hostage taking and they were worried about their lives they just they simply could not leave and they are not the only one who's gone through this simply because it's such a lucrative such a lucrative industry well you know in that situation you want nothing more than to sell out of the business but nobody wants to buy that business because because you have so much money because it's such
a in some ways an ideal target for laundering you know there's people who just simply want to get at it in ways that are let's say not seemly so so they remained in there do you see a lot of nefarious business like money laundering within these crop industries. it just depends you know in north america it's very very clean you know there's not much need for it you know in asia because it's such an import oriented business i mean you know still such a large portion of the of the material comes through the ports there's always going to be some gaming of customs and duties and and the various taxes and and you know and that's a constant state conversation between china script industry and the government you know there tends to be this reputation i'm especially in north america of the industry is associated with organized crime it's a little unfair actually it's very unfair i mean to a large extent the reason in north america that reputation is is come about is
because the industry used a lot of trucking and in years past trucking was very you know very much associated with the teamsters and when it was. but it's a fairly clean business is clean as most i'm if you if you do see sort of any kind of illegality it tends to be on the tax especially the import tax side ok i want to move back to shipping which we were talking about earlier now i understand that the baltic dry index that's taking up right now and this it measures shipments of raw materials by sea do you think that the baltic dry index is an index that is that is useful for similar reasons to where you used to measure your industries health. yeah oh absolutely i mean you know we see especially into the the important should be an indicator that if for scriptures is because you know what is happening. from north america asia and you are starting to see you
know a tick up in those prices and why why is that happening in part and it's very interesting is because you are starting to have some container shortages in in north america as north american consumers start to buy more stuff from china there's a desire to get those containers back to asia very quickly and as a result there are containers going back empty sometimes before there's time to get the shipments into them so yeah i mean that index can tell you a lot when scrap went when prices and shipping of any kind move up it affects what's going on in scrap industry. that's really interesting i also want to talk about an article that i recently came across in the new yorker by john cole a pin chair and it talks about the grease recycling industry in the u.s. basically this story looked at how people gathered in used cooking oil in restaurants and then sell them to recycling plants but the story tells how big companies have now began to move in and try and take over smaller grease collectors
do you see anything like this in the global trash industry are all the players dominated by large companies or is there room for smaller and highly can. players sure sure this is a this is a wonderful question i mean and it's you know people think of the global junk industry as a new industry but i mean in some sense you could say it goes back to the first time somebody beat a sword into a plow share or you know and in another sense it goes back to the beginning of the industrial revolution one of the things that's constantly happened is you've had small companies get big very quickly they're able to consolidate and you know and when companies become big in the scrap industry like any industry they become a little unwieldly but the trick in buying and buying scrap is actually being able to buy it to buy it knowledgeably and as you as you multiply your employees you know the sole proprietor who is very good at buying the stuff making a smart buy you know they're not able to do that anymore and so you know they don't
buy as well and underneath and that gives an opportunity for a small entrepreneur who has a small buying group who can communicate with each other to buy the scraps smartly they start to chip away at these bigger these bigger scrap processors so what we now see in the global scrap industry is you see a lot of very large global players some of them who are listed you know on the new york stock exchange sims metal management is very notable i was a company called steel dynamics which owns you know several dozen yards these companies are are out there and there's an argument being made that they're very inflexible and so smaller players are able to go into their markets and chip away at some of their some of their business simply because they're able to offer better pricing they're able to respond more quickly to customers so it's a very real phenomenon and one of things you see is that sort of the mid-size players in this industry get squeezed out that's a very interesting now out and i could talk about this with you all day but they
only have time for one more question so i want to ask you what currently is most interesting to you today about the junk trade that people aren't paying enough attention to. well i think the most important shift and it's happening very quickly is that you're actually seen manufactures get into junking into recycling and specifically you're seen consumer electronics manufacturers people who would make things like you know a smartphone or a tablet what they want to do partly because of regulatory pressures but partly because they just want to get their hands on iraq materials cheaply because we know the long term trend is raw materials commodities are going up they're actually setting up their own commodity recycling businesses the idea being let's get our products our tablets our smartphones our computers back from the consumers before they go to the junkyard and we have to buy it through a middleman and so you're seeing you know i know personally i'm personally familiar with a couple of companies that are doing this and i think there's going to be a very big disruptor in the global electronic recycling trade and i think
ultimately it's going to have very profound effects on consumer electronics specifically. that was adam minter author of junkyard planet time now for today's big deal. let there be light. and right over here it's time now for today's big deal i'm joined by edward harrison to take a look at work wages and the quality you have talked about now over the last four decades the american worker has seen wage gains despite periods of healthy economic growth now take a look at this graph that we have very here it shows the percentage of wages and salaries in terms of u.s. g.d.p. and as you can see it has fallen since the late one nine hundred sixty s.
at the peak it was fifty one percent of the economy now it's fallen to forty two percent so ever an economic debates on the left and right all talk about how to improve overall macro economics and last week we talked specifically about quantitative easing and the fed and the debate about what will happen if q.e. stops and interest rates rise so the question is not people focus on wages and why are wages so important to our recovery what would you say i would say it's because you know the consumer of consumption is two thirds or more of the u.s. economy and sold to mutlu you can't have a robust economy if you don't have a robust consumer sector and that means that people have to earn more money you know there was going to be taken on dead or doing whatever else is necessary in order to sustain the consumption growth like elsewhere you know you remember the housing a.t.m. for instance during the housing bubble that was the sort of healthy level of
consumption that was due to increases in debt levels ultimately that bubble popped and here we're left with the debt but you know we don't have the. tiger woods has an a.t.m. that's a good descriptive term for it was people are sticking out so much money on the value of their home which actually was not of the value that they suspected but i want to move on because the new york times reports that twenty five million workers in the u.s. make less than ten dollars an hour and of those twenty five million three point five million make the seven dollars twenty five cent minimum wage or. and these workers seen any wage gains you know we had to either take out bar on behalf of our house or do you take from somewhere else and the money that we had planned and why no way to. view basically is that there's global arbitrage in general which means in a sense that. you're always working against someone else you might have a lower wage elsewhere and the result what that means is that in the united states
is going to be a higher level of unemployment as a result of that and that's going to put downward pressure on wages especially at the bottom so it's going to be very difficult for those people to just based on you know the markets themselves to be able to fight against that because the lowest common denominator is the wage levels in other lesser developed countries like that now some people argue that we are actually closer to full employment and that those without jobs are structurally unemployed and that means that they no longer have the skills needed to find a job and are centrally unemployable which is kind of sad what do you make of this argument i think it's a completely bogus argument basically it's an argument to. go towards a specific point of view i mean my own point of view really i think it's very interesting that we went to the currency system exactly when this whole thing happened basically if you take a negative view of the currency system you can say that what's really happened is
that you know we've gone through this credit society where basically at the same time that we have globalization it allows us to increase credit massively increase the amount of household debt as a result of that and then people are burdened without even knowing that they can't continue and as always thank you so much for your insight that's all for now but you can see all segments featured in today's show on you tube or you tube dot com slash them by starting well i love hearing from you support check out our facebook page facebook dot com slash boom bust our t. . you can also tweet us i donate at edward n.h. that's all from us we'll see you next time here in boom bust chalo.
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post only what really matters at r.t. to your facebook you speak. russian crimea sign or unification treaty after president bush in the glare of the referendum on the peninsula to have been fully in line with international law. but it will so everything has its limits and in the case of ukraine a westie pawn is have crossed the red line. and kremlin speech the president slams the west for supporting the post-coup government in kiev and refusing to recognize that crimea is right to self-determination. to expand the russian capital you want your interior national with me wearing a joshie russian crimea have sealed an agreement on their reunification that you
story treaty was signed by the crimean government and the russian president after he addressed lawmakers in a grandma or does it work is going off followed him or put in speech and joins us live now for more so you were do tell us so what exactly the treaty means and what did the president have to say on the issue well this treaty signed by president putin and crimean authorities are saying that unifying crimea and russia but it's not a done deal yet because under russian law. now has to be approved by the constitutional court it has to be ratified by the. parliament and the constitution itself would have to be amended if a new entity was to join the federation in statement president putin called on the lawmakers to complete all these procedures now also he said that the main driving force behind all this is the overwhelming desire seeing on both sides for crimea to join russia especially meaning the referendum which took place earlier in the
crimea which called truly a historic event in which over ninety six percent of the local population voted for the crimea to join russia and he also directly addressed ordinary ukrainians saying that the relationship between the two countries is extremely important to moscow also said that for years russia respected the territorial integrity of ukraine and the crimea strictly as a part of ukraine but unfortunately the rights of the millions of ethnic russians living there while he added he also said that the current moves are not aimed at harming ukrainians even sympathizers to goals. peacefully in the protests he said he understood why they were feeling this need for political change but change but mr putin said unfortunately the violent way they knew or thought he seemed power
and the fact that many of them are. nationalists makes it impossible not only for moscow to recognize them as the new. authorities of ukraine but also even to negotiate with them. but also who carried out the coup in ukraine you nazis nationalists and the anti semites and they still define the country's political agenda it's clear that there is no legitimate executive power in ukraine right now there is no one to negotiate with many of the government departments have been using myself. no means of running the country. the president also compare the situation to course of us saying that when its independence was recognized by most western countries that created a precedent and he says the way the same countries have been dealing with crimea is not only based on double standards but is simply cynical. when we use.
what do we hear from our colleagues in the west and in europe they say that we are violating international law but i'm glad that they at least remember that international law exists that's the late the never the crime means used course it was a precedent and our western partners set this precedent themselves with their own actions and in a situation which is fully and i look as to the situation in crimea they recognize kosovo and they prove that you do not actually need permission from the central government to declare your territory a sovereign state yes mr putin also commented on accusations that russia committed military intervention to the crimea saying he doesn't remember an example in history where military intervention would be possible without a single fired shot unlike it happened in yugoslavia iraq iran and he gave iraq afghanistan and other other examples as well the same time he stressed that moscow
doesn't want to cooperate with nato it just doesn't want to see this military alliance wiped out its back door he said he hopes western partners understand this point of view we support and also stressed that for years russia has been pressured for having an independent stance on various issues and it's been dealing with that situation but ukraine was the red line. but. we have every reason to believe that the old policy of containing russia is still in place because we take an independent physician but everything has its limits and in the case of ukraine i western partners have crossed the red line because they were rude nonprofessional and they have acted in response to our western partners prefer to use the principle that might is right they believe that they are always in the right that they are unique entrusted by god to decide the fate of other nations they apply pressure on. countries to get the resolutions that they need and
if that fails they simply bypass the security council and that was the case in one thousand nine hundred nine in yugoslavia as it was in afghanistan and iraq and then they distorted the un resolution in libya they did not enforce the no fly zone they bombed that country. of course and also spoke about crimea itself stressing how important it is to protect all of the nationalities living there including ukrainians russians ethnic daughters i mean crimean tatars and others and some weight on what sort of policies we may see take place there if crimea does in fact join the russian federation. one of these policies would be equal rights for everyone for all of these ethnic representatives and especially three official languages which would include russian and ukrainian and. your
thank you so much for bringing us this update and talking through the highlights of our presence put in this address the upper house of parliament earlier now western officials have warned russia that it could be sidelined in the g eight with the french foreign minister reiterating that preparations for the upcoming summit in sochi have been suspended let's now go live to our g.'s holy book for more on this so paul we do tell us what's been said. well the u.k. foreign secretary william hague has just said in parliament that he would gretz that president putin has chosen the route of isolation by moving to incorporate crimea into russia now he also announced importantly that britain has suspended military cooperation with russia and he seemed to confirm what the french foreign minister tweeted a little bit earlier suggesting that the g eight is preparing to meet without russia as a g seven he said it's highly likely that the g seven countries will now meet as
the g seven group a not as a g eight group now over and also we have the u.s. vice president joe biden visiting poland and he from that has said that the world has seen through russia's actions in crimea and will impose more sanctions he also said the events are a land grab and a brazen incursion and now the polish prime minister donald two screws hosting joe biden at the moment said that russia's annexation of crimea will not be accepted by the international community including poland just. saying that they do not recognize the referendum nor do they recognize crime is incorporation into russia now in terms of the kremlin response well so far the interpretation of all of this from the kremlin has been to say that really it's business as usual the russian president's press secretary said a little bit that despite the harsh rhetoric coming from the g seven nations.
moscow continues to work with international partners much the same way that they did before now of course that is not the way clearly that the u.s. and the e.u. have seen it they've said that if russia recognized this crimean referendum there would be major repercussions and we can take a listen to us and e.u. leaders you're insecure about their discussions right now. unfortunately russia's leaders have responded with a brazen brazen military courage and there will be additional and far reaching consequences i have signed a new executive order that expands the scope of our sanctions strict measures against twenty one individuals responsible to other figures in the future. threat. direct which is the choice.
so yesterday following sunday's referendum in crimea we learned that there would be asset freezes and visa travel bans imposed against around twenty one crimean and russian officials that linked to that referendum in crimea and in terms of the response to these sanctions here in europe well it's been pretty split on the one hand you have commented to saying that quite simply the sanctions imposed on russia at the moment are not tough enough and not enough of a response and frankly quite toothless on the other hand there are those sort of among business leaders among the political elites saying that quite frankly with the economic situation as it is in europe at the moment the e.u. current afford to go down the route of economic sanctions against russia that could hurt trade. and business whether russia.
right and oh what about the referendum i mean has there been any change of opinion at all towards any perhaps a shift in the positions. european leaders have been pretty unequivocal in rejecting the results of the crimean referendum on sunday i mean i would be here all day if i were to list. all the indignant comments coming from the u.s. and the e.u. at the moment in response to what's just happened so there is definitely no sign of the u.s. and the e.u. recognizing that referendum anytime soon however across the globe some leaders have reacted differently and i believe we can take a listen to the argentinians response to the referendum in crimea right now. it's impossible to continue playing the role going to have local security when
there prove to depends on which country you're dealing with in the case of crimea it turns out the referendum was a bad thing when the full one self-determination it's a good this doesn't stand up to analysis. or it probably thank you so much for bringing us this reaction paul your boy called live from london. and for a look at the mood on the peninsula let's now talk to. alexis what's the mood where you are now to bring us the latest. it's q huge celebration here in simferopol we obviously are waiting for the party to begin now that people have been literally celebrating for the last several days ever since the referendum despite that the decision did not come yet but now it's official and obviously we're in for a big party with this live pictures coming from the city of sevastopol in the south of the peninsula where people were listening to the address of president put into the federation council and they were already pretty much jubilant if you look at the figures of this referendum which bost on
a sunday of one point five million people who are eligible to vote little more than one point three million actually voted and one point two million of them voted to be part of russia with a little more than thirty thousand people voting against it in fact it's been very hard to find any of those in here in simferopol and even in other parts of crimea who are against joining russia who stood for being part of ukrainian territory the vast majority of the people have been supporting this idea and for them it's something like we are going home sentiment they think this is historical justice being set right so we'll be asleep we're waiting for a big party and and probably a concert in the central square of the city absolutely i think so much for bringing us the mood from crimea there are links here chaps kay and very shortly we'll be talking to john walker lindh who's director of studies at the institute of democracy and cooperation to stay with us as this will happen after a short break. we
. economic down in the final. days. and the rest because i think. if we. welcome back to watching our senior international and we continue to talk about it's our top story here for more we're joined by john laughlin who's director of studies add to the institute of democracy and cooperation john think is so much for joining us here on a t. international well let's now take a look at this historic occasion from different angles so to speak and specifically the western reaction western powers have denounced the referendum and there's a reunification treaty as a legal what's your thought i mean what are the right to what extent do you agree or disagree with their position. i strongly disagree with it
i think their hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking and i think many europeans also see through the hypocrisy if you look at the comment threads on. in the newspapers on the internet sites and newspapers on this issue you will see that a very large number of europeans understand that there are double standards at issue here and the reason why i say so strongly that i disagree is that the european union yesterday following the referendum held on sunday condemned the referendum is illegal now when it does when it did that it showed its profoundly antidemocratic nature because a referendum is first of all a very legitimate thing to have an intimate democratic system and secondly the ukrainian constitution itself article one hundred thirty eight allows the autonomous republic of crimea to hold local referendums so the european union really showed its face as an oligarchy call and the democratic organization when it
condemned the referendum rather than the secession the secession of course technically speaking is illegal whenever a state secede from another state there is a rupture in the legal structure of the state from which the territory is to see to that's the very definition of a secession so it's a bit of a stating the obvious to say that possession is of the obviously it's illegal in terms of ukrainian law but that means that nearly every single secession in the history of the world has been illegal as well i don't ration of independence of seven hundred seventy six by the american colonies against the british empire was illegal in that sense well you know john i would like to bring up president putin said in his speech today comparing the situation in crimea was that of cost of the president the cost of a president said by the west how fair is a comparison in your opinion. it's totally fair and it's not just a matter of precedent because there is a principle of law that
a violation of law cannot be a precedent in law it's a very important principle in roman law and many people myself included consider consider that the cost of. declaration of two thousand and eight was itself a violation of international law because there had been a united nations security council resolution pertaining kosovo to be an integral part of the federal republic of yugoslavia however since the declaration of two thousand and eight the international law situation has been clarified by a ruling of the international court of justice which mr putin quoted quite rightly the international court of justice is the supremum arbiter in matters of international law and there advisory opinion was sought by serbia but unfortunately for serbia the judges there found against. the declaration of independence had been
legal and also more generally that throughout history declarations of independence are never in conflict with international law and they went even further they said that in the twentieth century declarations of independence have been regarded as compatible and indeed supported by international law in the name of the principle of self-determination so it's not just the fact of the independence of kosovo in two thousand and eight it's more importantly from a legal point of view the international court of justice ruling of two thousand and ten which as i say mr poston rightly quoted. well john everyone in the west and russia seem to be expecting this decision on the reunification i mean and yet the saying. imposed were limited in scope now that it looks irreversible western powers see any point in imposing further punishment on russia what will they stand to gain . well they have stand a lot to lose they stand to lose
a lot i think that russia is going to reply we'll have to see whether their reply triggers further reply and how far each side is prepared to go i mean it's very difficult to predict the future the situation in ukraine itself is very fluid and we don't know how things are going to evolve in the east or in the desk we don't know how the regime in kiev is going to last so it's very difficult to say what will happen i think there are basically two scenarios they could indeed be a severe degradation of east west relations based on tit for tat sanctions on increasing hostility and indeed based on violence and stability in itself that's quite possible there's also another possibility and that is that the west more or less without admitting it affects the accept the fact accompli after all as many people have said the sanctions are purely symbolic there are a joke in fact no one really takes them seriously france for example has said it will continue to deliver its aircraft carriers to russia the second of which is due
for delivery in two thousand and fifteen which bears the name of sevastopol to the crimean port. so so far the sanctions are very minor and it is therefore the second possible scenario therefore is that not much more will happen to russia than happened to turkey after it and next effectively annexed not in not formally but effectively annexed northern cyprus in one nine hundred seventy four let's not forget there are many other occasions where by where states have an extra fictive the annexed other territories for reasons similar to that that is now operating in crimea where i john very much appreciate your views here john lauchlan director of studies of the institute of democracy and cooperation thanks for talking to us here on international. now the post uprising government in kiev has found little support and it is true in ukraine where many are calling for a referendum on their future status or do you suppose they are reports. well the
mood here in the eastern ukrainian city of donetsk is very different from the mood in crimea it's not that people don't want to see these same kind of celebrations it's not that they don't want to be reunited with russia it's just at this almost and ease because of the ban against people protesting against this new government in kiev there is a crowd gathering in the local in a square and talking to people there they say that they believe and hope at least that premier has set an important precedent that they too here in eastern ukraine can hold their own with a random and decide for themselves whether or not they want to be part of russia in addition to this battle on protests that are anti government happening in the east of the country this also a crackdown on protest leaders we are hearing of one particular case where a leader in the city of a desoto was detained we do not know what happened to him we have been told that he's been taken to kids but exactly what condition he's in and wearing period he's
being held we have no information about that at this point there's another concern that people here are expressing and that is the movement of armored vehicles from the west of the country to the russian border and as a result people have formed themselves into self defames the units if you look at the pictures you'll see members of these units trying to stop these vehicles from advancing eastward snow in one particular incident a self-defense member literally lay down on the floor to stop a vehicle that almost rode over him but just at the last minute he was pulled to safety by his colleagues so you have people here in a very very tense situation extremely uneasy they are increasingly concerned by what they say is an extremist government in kiev with precious leanings with me or not seen leavings they're also concerned that not only are they not allowed to protest but that their voices of dissent are being cracked down ever so heavily so a lot of concern here despite the optimism and hope that people witnessed while
watching the celebrations in crimea and indeed in the russian parliament. while reporting their street celebrations are breaking out across russia in response to the country's reunification with crimea more than eighty cities are expected to take part in nationwide rallies and at the far east where it's already a night time crowd showed their support of waving russian flags and chanting slogans against the far right forces that now hold such influence in ukraine emotions have been running high since the treaty with crimea was signed and moscow of course is at the heart of those celebrations maria costa rica is on red square for us and she joins us live. marina can you hear us what's the mood on red square. absolutely marina i can hear you the mood here is definitely electric thousands have now gathered now is actually walking with the
crowd earlier trying to get in so i managed to speak to some of the people here and they told me about the feel like they're welcoming back a long lost relative their hold in boston drives signs banners. welcome back welcome home of crimea and this really reflects the mood as we know recent polls show that over ninety percent of russians support the decision made by the crimean so naturally everyone here is in the celebrants or just heard the russian national anthem there waiting for the concert to begin and you really feel like you're witnessing history being made and this is of course just the beginning. for the morning that. bring us the very latest will be coming back to you for more information on this right now though there was a marine across a river in red square where some celebrations are about to start as there are a lot of people gathered gathering is there and the preparations for concerts i guess are in concert thank you for now now. to bring you the very latest on what's been happening here on our top story russia and crimea have sealed an agreement on
reunification the story treaty was signed by the crimean government and the russian president after he addressed lawmakers and the kremlin it came into force the moment it was signed but is still subject to formal confirmation from the constitutional court and the russian parliament and dressing the lawmakers lattimer putin sad the referendum in crimea which showed overwhelming support for rejoining russia took place in full accordance with international law well after the break r.t. we look at america's deadly drone war on terror do stay with us as i'll be back at the top of the hour with more updates. i don't want to beat a dead horse i try to dredge these opinion pieces but you created melt out hits really close to my heart and affects people i know when i see obama gleefully
talking to self elected new ukrainian prime minister just burns the inside of my brain he's throwing hypocrisy gasoline on my fire of contempt not only to delete phone call from the estonian defense minister claim that the kiev opposition used both sides but now the former ukrainian chief of security confirmed that the sniper fire came from a building under the control of the protesters at that time also the alliance currently in power in kiev glorified out see germany n u slogans like putting jews and russians to the knife so america's first black president and nobel peace prize winner who was elected by waves of tolerant optimistic lefty liberals is smiling and chatting with a leader who is supported by white power right winger groups that use the murder of their own members to oust a democratically elected government there william nightmare is now my friends but that's just my opinion. talking about languages but i will only react to situations i have read the reports
. put the no i will leave them to the state to comment on your latter point them to say. ok because are you talking no. thank you no more weasel words. when you made a direct question be prepared for a chase when you know you should be ready for a. pretty speech letter and the freedom to. in a rural area of yemen. a man climbs on the back of a vehicle. he is suspected by the americans of being linked to the terrorist group al qaida. his name like it. because. the passengers have no idea but a few kilometers above the head a drop
a remotely operated plane and a pilot is watching their vehicle. in the united states at a military base the men in charge of the drone received the order to shoot. people to trigger. this strike is one of thousands carried out by the americans in secret operations around the world . the drones of the newest muscle and that powerful intelligence service the cia. together with barack obama the president of the united states they're mounting a secret campaign to kill the america's enemies all over the world. it decided that rather than to detain al qaeda or taliban members. instead use drone strikes to try to kill them. according to the united states it's the perfect weapon
surgically precise. but behind all this talk the reality is different. the innocent on not sped. today some people are asking. does barack obama committed a walk ride with his secret program. if you could a woman and children leave knowingly many use. that is what dr martin luther king said i have a dream of amazed to have a daughter. our
inquiry begins deep in the united states. thousands of kilometers from the countries where the americans fight their war. here we are with the tranquil plains of new mexico. sky unmanned aircraft fly overhead in the desert. the propellers make a distinctive sound. it's a drone. to take off from this military base follow on where the u.s. army trains pilots for these new aircraft. today they're having an open day. the army has organized
a press conference on the drones for journalists who have come from all over the world. up and coming up my face and. this is where they train on this by the q one predator names united keep those in mind we're taking leave you not want any of this they're outgrown the hard way on the market interview those we have arranged quite fit. the visit is tightly controlled. on the tarmac perfectly prepared pilots welcome us in order to introduce us to america's latest weapon. this is the predator the most current model one hundred sixty four in america's fleet. and here is the latest model even more powerful. it's the reaper. the army has one hundred full. these aircraft are equipped with bombs and laser controlled missiles
but their main asset is in the front of the machine. under here there's a satellite antenna and that allows us on this the plane turns and stuff as it's in flight it will track the satellite and then that's what allows us to fly it via satellite so. underneath the plane here is what substitutes the pilot's eyesight and you have three cam three cameras on here you have an infrared camera and this one up here is a extremely wide view camera and then this one is the one that gets you very in color shots. thanks to these technologies these aircraft have become very powerful weapons for the american military. they don't
fly very fast just four hundred kilometers per hour maximum but they can fly very high up to fifteen thousand meters which makes them hard to detect. the machines are also inexpensive and since they can see a little fuel they can remain in the air for a long time up to about twenty hours in comparison with four hours for a manned fighter plane. most of all this demonstration video shows with drones the pilots no longer need to be in the battlefield. control post in the united states thanks to a connection satellite they can control their aircraft where ever it is in the world. the drones meanwhile transmit images films by their cameras. they permit the surveillance of the territory but also have the ability to shoot things to the arms they carry on board if the drone gets hit or even destroyed the pilot is not at risk he is safely in his military base in the united
states in these futuristic army barracks reinforced and air conditioned. we won't learn anything about the details of any current operations here the information given to journalists has been very carefully selected. and. you don't give now. yes if you look. he has his name to. be objective for the u.s. army is not to talk about operations. but rather to convince journalists of the technological capabilities of the drones ok come on in. with this in mind the soldier takes us to a simulator for the pilots are trained. so essentially the trainer portion
is this entire unit this part of period with the two seats is what looks just like the g.c.'s that down cold station. two people and needed to operate a drone. on the one hand a pilot flies the plane and on the other an operator controls the camera. and. you can be feared. you meant it to be a friendly force right here so as i say you may not get pretty good at it down if you didn't exactly follow that the m.c.s. actual aircraft will be obviously the simulator says that. if a target is identified that it's necessary to shoot the pilots takes charge. will assume that this is hostile they've given me clearance i have my son is which is pretty shall i select my different weapons. everything is going to be touch screen
so in this case i was going to shoot a hellfire. so once i select the weapon i wanted it obviously a huge group or nation effort between myself and the sensor she would start lazy and we would have all the appropriate clearances and then i would execute basically fire i pull into trigger. three. in two thousand and thirteen the air force has plans to train six hundred seventy eight new drone pilots almost as many as traditional fighter pilots. they will then be spread out among the. numerous u.s. military bases where the aircraft are operated. the drones themselves operate thousands of kilometers away. been used in iraq throughout the american intervention and are in action today in afghanistan. this part of the
program is publicly acknowledged by the americans since they are now officially at war with these two countries. but drones have also been used in pakistan yemen and even in somalia. places where the united states is not officially at war. in these countries and it's the cia which is using this new weapon as part of its huge campaign to destroy members of al qaeda and their allies the taliban. but at the bits the pilots have orders not to talk about this part of the program officially it doesn't exist. we do. with other countries. that i can confirm that we are operating in. afghanistan. for pakistan. country i can confirm.
this with other countries correct sequence. of drones taken such an important place in the american arsenal. to find out we have to look to the past. everything began after the september eleventh attacks of two thousand and one. at the helm of the traumatized stricken america george w. bush declared war on terrorism. either you are with us. where you are with the terrorists. america launched a will. a program of secret activities carried out by special forces and cia agents. hundreds of ground
operations were set up in order to flush out members of al qaeda. suspects were killed others were arrested and secretly flown out in order to be interrogated by the americans. the united states is holding nearly seven hundred fifty suspects at their base in guantanamo. but soon holding prisoners without conviction outside of old legal jurisdiction tarnished america's image they didn't know what to do with these prisoners. then photos of torture carried out by g.i.'s kind of iraqi prisoners at abu ghraib. scandal. muslim world secrets of the united states group. american anti-terrorist policy
pleasure to have you with us here today. barack obama arrived at the white house for a change of strategy. one of the advisors to the bush administration on the question of drones he witnessed this evolution. the bush administration really did not use drone strikes very much the obama administration saw what happened to the bush administration with respect to detention and it decided that rather to detain . or taliban members. in stead use drone strikes to try to kill them. the list of people to be eliminated by.
this list contains the names of the most powerful members of al qaeda and the. idea was that we could. launch very targeted strikes against individual to get to areas that u.s. troops could not otherwise get to and to limit civilian casualties. the democratic president is convinced he's found the perfect weapon. precision able to take out the enemy without killing civilians. the loss of them. aurukun soldiers . the white house now uses its drone as a must a weapon in its fight against terrorism. we conduct those strikes because they are necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats to stop plots prevent future attacks and again save american lives these strikes are legal they are ethical and they are
wise. under barack obama the number of drone strikes has escalated. the new america foundation counted forty nine under the bush administration in comparison with three hundred ninety five under barack obama. twenty twelve the president himself plug the program in an online exchange with the petraeus. the drones have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties. for the most part of they have been very precise precision strikes against al qaeda and their affiliates. did barack obama tell the american people the truth that day. does the drone this perfect weapon really specify early in life so.
we decided to go and see things from the other side of the screen. on the ground where the attacks take place. eleven thousand kilometers from the u.s. yemen is one of the top countries where unmanned planes operate. several years ago tourists used to come to sun up the capital for the beauty of its narrow ancient streets. today the foreigners along. the country has become one of the most dangerous in the world. soldiers patrol the town and the capital lives up to the daily threat of terror attacks. the country's leader is an american ally president hadi.
but in recent years islam ists have taken control of several parts of yemen. notably north and south. these men organized under the banner of a q p a a al qaeda in the arabian peninsula to give any branch of a terrorist group. in this propaganda video the bosses directly threaten the united states and its. well i would then i call for an uprising. when i call for attacks and if that is not enough when a government and i call upon the army to go and fight the jews and american aircraft carriers. these are the combatants and their troops who are targeted by the american drones. station to neighboring countries saudi arabia in djibouti unmanned aircraft past the yemeni sky to launch their strikes.
since the beginning of the program there have been more than eighty. the last attack before our arrival took place thirty kilometers from sanaa. we're in yemen to check whether as the u.s. president claims only al qaeda members have been killed in these attacks. january third two thousand and thirteen near a small village called co will. it is this attack in a rural area which was meant for robbie lucky a man suspected by the americans of being linked to al qaeda. that day a drone filmed him getting into the back of a vehicle. he's accompanied by two bodyguards. several thousand meters above the ground invisible the drone follows the vehicle.
shortly after eight pm the aircraft receives the order to fire from the u.s. several missiles were launched. the day after international media including fox news and c.n.n. announced that all of victims of the attack were members of al qaeda. if we believe this information it's still a perfect strike carried out by american drones. but no western journalists were there on the scene to verify this since the area is very dangerous for foreign us. we go in to try. the drone struck half an hour from sun up on the other side of these mountains. the risk of kidnapping on route is serious. so we're escorted by four armed guards
in this vehicle behind us. we're not five kilometers away from the site of the strike but the soldiers order us to stop. the army refuses to let us pass officially the area is too dangerous for western us. according to our guide it's impossible to negotiate we have no option but to turn back. to get around the obvious ruling we decide to trust our camera to an independent journalist. a man we can trust. a yemenite he can get through the checkpoint. the images he brings back a rare very few cameras of film the sights of drone strikes. they show a very different reality from the one reported in the press. the missiles were
detonated on a narrow country lane there are still traces of the burning car and the impact on the ground. local inhabitants saw it all. there was blood everywhere. there was a body without legs or a head impossible to identify the legs and people from the neighboring village arrived. they recognised the car. go. out and they started to scream. this is the scene discovered by villages they took these photos after the strike. into the vehicle is still smoking. among the mutilated human remains is rubbish. the men targeted and his body guards. over the villages also found the bodies of two other people they knew well. what's
left of the vehicle is now held in the neighboring village. locals god has a piece of evidence. in fact the car belongs to a man from the village. hussein. a young taxi driver aged just twenty six that's one of the two bodies the village has recognized. a man stands aside hussein. was your son involved with al qaida. no that's not the case or that he was just a student good as it had always been a student who made a living working as a driver. so how would you explain what he was doing with al qaeda men generally had nothing to do with that and a living using the car as
a taxi that he was supporting us financially that's all. just like traditional bombs drone strikes don't spare civilians they incite hatred against the americans . watching r t international coming to you live from moscow welcome back to our top story is russia in crimea signing a vacation treaty and right now you're looking at live pictures coming out of red square where president putin the will be speaking very shortly earlier he addressed the upper house of russian parliament emphasizing the significance of the agreement right now he's speaking let's listen and. in fact what you hear now is russian and them and you can see president vladimir putin seeing the choir here and
a lot of people gathered in red square to celebrate the occasion. there that you just heard the song that's whereby a president who was there who wouldn't who earlier addressed the upper house of parliament saying the referendum in crimea which showed overwhelming support for joining russia took place in full accordance with international law. as you can see
a lot of people gathered there today to support of this historic occasion thousands of mosque invites have gathered in red square waving a red flags there of orange and showing their solidarity. with. the people in crimea. i guess were expecting a concert there and. a festive program right now we see people. who are gathered there to watch and witness this historic occasion and the debilitation of course you. are aware as i said put an address to parliament saying that referendum in crimea showed overwhelming support for joining russia took place in full accordance with international law and the russian president also stressed that moscow could not ignore crimea has appealed for help after a violent coup overthrew the legitimate government of ukraine. but let's now take
a look at what's happening in red square and do you see some of the russian celebrities. speaking to the crowds and. showing down their support for what happened and obviously. enjoying this fear. thousands have gathered there today and right now you can see a russian singer rich dollar now there. let's enjoy this for a while. your board has extended the help to buy scheme six what do you want that he says house prices will only rise from here to serve the indeed the taxpayer stands behind the beloved british sucking teddy bear sleeping property speculate.
specifically mention in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy but there's. no. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and across several we've been hijacked like handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once it's all just my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world if we go beyond identifying the problem try rational debate and a real discussion that critical issues facing are not defined or ready to join the movement then walk away from the big picture.
russian crimea sign or any indication treaty after president putin declares the referendum on the peninsula to have been fully in line with international law also . but stable so everything has its limits and in the case of ukraine a western partners have crossed the red line. going to cram a speech the president slams the west for supporting the post-coup government in kiev and refusing to recognize the crimea is right to self-determination plus. joining me is in for another big celebration often news that the peninsula will become part of russia we're reporting from the been in so less capital off since it opened.