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coming up on r t sanctions battle moscow and washington trade sanctions over the crimea referendum the latest just ahead. why does the public still have no access to results of the u.s. senate's investigation into the cia's use of torture and more on that coming up. and the governor's race in ohio is liking the libertarian candidate a judge recently kicked the candidate off the ballot what's behind this ruling we'll talk to the candidate himself later in the show. good evening it's thursday march twentieth some kind of shutdown in washington d.c. you're watching our team. when one of our incurs sitting in this chair quit on
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air the u.s. media jumped on the story but there could be more to it than just an increased resignation political commentator same sex has more. r t is been in the spotlight recently since an anchor resigned two weeks ago here at the network and a new article published in truthdig this week by reporters rania colic and max blumenthal reveal a group of neo conservative organizations that took a particular interest in that former anchors on air announcement enter the foreign policy initiative a think tank founded in two thousand and nine as the organization notes in its mission statement the united states and its democratic allies face many foreign policy challenges that come from rising resurgent powers including china and russia now here's a question why was the foreign policy initiatives official twitter account predicting that a former r.t. anchor was about to resign on air minutes before she actually did there's the tweet right there you can read it for yourself no one at the initiative has cared to
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answer that question but someone who might know is this guy jamie kirchick who just so happens to work at the foreign policy initiative and just like the initiative he's obsessed with russia particularly this network r.t. he also secured the first interview with the former r.t.a. for just an hour after she resigned check out his bio over at the daily beast where he writes notice he's done no reporting on anything else other than r.t. recently even stopped by the r.t. offices here in washington d.c. last week to say hello to everyone so i login. kirchick cruz criticised r t as a state funded media outlet previously worked at state funded media outlets like radio free europe radio liberty which receives its funding from the us congress and beams pro-american messages to eastern europe places like ukraine her chicks colleague at the daily beast eli lake has also devoted a lot of ink to fear mongering about russia and criticizing this network so too has
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a buzz feed reporter rosie gray both have taken particular interest in the on air resignation of the former to anchor as well as writing several stories about it and both have been connected to this guy this is michael goldfarb who founded the ultra conservative washington free beacon newspaper it was formerly a p.r. lobbyist for the nation of georgia during its war with russia as the truthdig article ledges goldfarb of fed georgian p.r. to eli lake now a national security correspondent at the daily beast and rosie gray the buzz feed reporter who produced the recent exposé on our t.v. now looking at all of this media critic danny schechter thinks this battle being waged against our t. is a proxy battle for nero cons who are pushing a certain foreign policy agenda this was actually planned and promoted and publicized to use our t.v. in an argument that these people are having with the obama administration namely
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they want the obama administration to be more aggressive you know they want to be able to bash obama for not doing any one of a number of things which could include bombing russia or whatever the journalists are always told to dig deeper that things aren't always as they seem maybe that's why it's so important in this case to question more washington d.c. same sex are to. now two new developments around crimea is joining russia president obama has signed an executive order that gives the u.s. the authority to impose sanctions not just on the russian individuals he said but also on different sectors of the washington colony president obama also said the sanctions if imposed would be disruptive not only to russia but also to the global economy washington is earlier targeted to leavenworth for an official's barring them from entering the u.s. and freezing their assets here which many of them said they didn't moscow responded with a similar move honestly as the details things are definitely continuing to tense up
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here in washington d.c. we've heard from u.s. president barack obama say that washington is imposing new sanctions on further russian individuals and every part of that new list of individuals includes a state of the state duma speaker that's the lower house of russia's parliament as well as the head of the presidential administration and russia is of course comes as russia takes crimea to be part of its own territory this is just yet another step from the united states in terms of taking action to respond to what it considers to be an illegal process this is what the u.s. president said i signed a new executive order today that gives us the authority to impose sanctions not just on individuals but on key sutter's of the russian economy. this is not our preferred outcome these sanctions would not only have a significant impact on the russian economy but could also be disruptive to the global economy the u.s. president barack obama signed an executive order that basically provides the west
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with the option to impose sanctions on key sectors of russian economy and we do know that the sectors in question are energy financial services metal and mining engineering and defense and report on but of course this was quite expected russia has come up with its own list of individuals that it's going to be sanctioning for now with the ban of entry into russia these people include the speaker of house of representatives senator u.s. senator john mccain as well as aides to u.s. president barack obama and the hungers men and others also it's important to note that obama has said for now that the military option obviously continues to not be something that the u.s. is considering that a diplomatic option remains while certainly these sanctions it's no secret being imposed on russia are going to create a difficulty between the two countries because there's certainly plenty of issues that u.s. needs russia's cooperation on on the international arena as tensions continue to be
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high between russia the west and west it's important that this include entire crisis has been surrounded really by a huge flow of misinformation for more on that let's now go to my report for shooting in crimea creates a stir in the international community the spokesperson for the u.s. state department jen psaki posts a tweet saying stop the shooting and some for opel clear that russia fired the first shot we went to a press briefing and ask saki what this very serious allegation was based on in the tweet you're saying that it's clear that it actually fired a shot first and that's a pretty serious allegation so we're just curious and i don't see let me just say we don't see how it's possibly true that the russian claim that they were they were they were not that someone else was the aggressor that the ukraine. where the aggressor can possibly be true given they entered the ukrainian base they're not saying that they're saying it's a provocation whereas you're saying that it's very clear they have said that a little but i think we're ready to move on do we have another topic an accusation
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against russia has been made that if there is no room for an explanation those tweets are not based on any credible evidence she is just talking she is creating headlines and of course most importantly she is feeding the u.s. media the corporate owned media the echo chamber newlines so that they can keep up the drumbeat of demonization against russia such misinformation is not only coming from an official government body responsible for u.s. foreign policy but also through twitter pages directed at russian readers to whom the saki tweet was also addressed like this russian language twitter page called progress set up by the state department which has been tweeting unattributed allegations like this one accusing vladimir putin of allowing one ukrainian servicemen to be shot dead this is the new state department spokesperson who took the place of victoria nuland who was the spokeswoman provocateur who are behind supporting the may down protest including the far right elements she is not functioning right now as
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a diplomat and she is not functioning right now as some sort of objective spokesperson this is a propaganda machine in the media war against russia u.s. officials seem to be inventing the rules as they go along from flip flopping on their own principles depending on their current geopolitical focus to feeding an endless stream of misinformation while ignoring the need to explain not only highly questionable but also dangerous statements because they are t. washington d.c. . the senate select committee on intelligence has spent five years investigating the u.s. government's use of torture in the interrogation of suspected terrorists after the nine eleven attacks they analyzed thousands of pages of cia's internal report and came up with their own last year but both reports are classified outside the comedian the intelligence community community nobody knows what's in the. but what we do know now things to senator dianne feinstein is that the cia has possibly hacked into the computers of senate staffers and removed key documents and does seem to feared with the investigation earlier i was joined by larry seems author of
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the torture report is also behind the online interactive web site the torture report dot org that has built a documentary record of the bush administration torture program i first asked him what is it in the senate investigation that the government doesn't want people to know. well senator feinstein has been pretty clear and signaling what's in the report when the when the report was completed in two thousand and twelve there was a press release that went out with a quote from her saying you know essentially this study that they had done should put to rest. once and for all the debate about whether or not the united states should be involved in the kinds of detention and interrogation practices that were carried out into the under the cia's rendition detention and interrogation program she said you know the report basically showed first of all that the techniques that had been described to the public and to the senate committee and in secret briefings were not applied as they were described and not only that but also that
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they were not effective and i think that was one of the i think that's the crucial crucial finding of the report which is which is so problematic for the cia it would also ascertain that the u.s. broke international law right. well yes absolutely and i think that's you know that's that's pretty much clear from documents that have been declassified i mean we know enough about the about the enhanced interrogation techniques as they were even articulated in the in the memos and those sorts of things that our definition. or our good description of those techniques was a distortion of the law and they would almost certainly be illegal under international law but i think the thing is that you know the documents that the select committee was looking at are ones that are much more immediate that describe how these techniques were actually applied and also you know the again the kind of
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information that supposedly was generated by the application of these techniques and i think what's you know what that what the committee found and was you know was quite. quite quite emphatic in describing in its report was that again that these techniques went far beyond that. scription is and also that they did generated really very little if any effective intelligence at all sir torture arguably happened years ago they're not doing it anymore hopefully but why does the government feel that they have to they absolutely have to show that this torture report from everybody well i think it's i don't think it's a question of the government as a whole i don't think it's i think what we're seeing as it is a very human drama about who gets to control the story and i think you know when there are errors and mistakes. and wrongdoing and even criminal conduct i think it's human nature to try to conceal and cover up that behavior and you know the
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what's what's happening now is it is a struggle for who gets to who gets to tell the story and who gets to who gets to hear the story and you know i think the there's many people within the cia who are telling a much different story and that's why a lot of what's happening with this controversy between dianne feinstein and the select committee right now concerns the fact that the senate staffers when they were looking at the shared drive that the cia set up in order to upload a bunch of documents that this committee was asked to review came across across some documents for what we're calling the panetta review that is leon panetta when he was director of the cia asked is asked the cia to look at the same documents that they were uploading to this dr and in their analysis apparently in the panetta review they came to essentially the same conclusions as the senate committee did in this six thousand page report which is still classified now. sorry yes please continue. and now that report it is still classified but the cia asked for the
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right to do a rebuttal document that document is also classified but they say that essentially the committee got it wrong that you know these these techniques did work and here's why but then the senate staffers then came across this panetta review and an internal die. which is essentially the same thing these things are were used in ways that they weren't described and they don't work so it's not a matter of the fact that you know there is a massive effort within the cia to disguise the fact that this happened there's a lot of people within the cia who have you know who have been going on record from the very beginning of the rendition detention interrogation program to challenge these practices to say they don't work in fact they're the reason that we have a lot of these documents so i think one of the interesting really riveting aspects of this drama right now is you're seeing now seeing this moment in which you know the real question is accountability and there are people within the cia who have
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been asking for accountability for quite some time and. now their voices are being heard on the outside. the intelligence community is main defense has been sequenced see and congress usually you know doesn't give them a hard time about anything really we take drones for example but sometimes even congress gets irritated by the flip flops of the cia and i want to read a quote from senator wyden and he was speaking about the allegations of the cia's interfering with the torch investigation and he said the cia is only spokesman has said the cia conducted this research to find out if the intelligence committee had maintained that particular files in question but in a public interview last week the cia director said and i quote as far as the allegations of the cia hacking into senate computers nothing can be further from the truth we wouldn't do that that's just beyond the scope of reason in terms of what we would do tell me about how easy it is for the cia to get away with wrongdoing. well. that's
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a really good question i mean we're we're we're going i think we've been watching a ten year process that centers exactly on the rendition detention and interrogation program to see to answer that question to see what the cia will quote unquote get away with in may of two thousand and four the c.i. . as inspector general. completed an internal investigation in which he sort of audited what was going on in the cia black sites and investigation which was started because cia agents were coming home from the black site saying to him you can't believe what we're doing out there certainly violates the law it's going to put this agency in jeopardy it's going to put our people in jeopardy it's going to affect america's image abroad so you know like i said this is a ten year struggle that's been going on to essentially tell the story to really allow the public to enter into a discussion into public scrutiny about what went on what it accomplished what it did not accomplish and and then to move on so you know we have we have sort of
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systematically publicly put off an accountability process and because we have done that the cia is you know that allowed in a way to continue to try to cover its tracks and i think it's the time as the public should be asking for the release of the six thousand three hundred page report that the senate committee the senate intelligence committee has completed that's our report these are our elected officials who are charged with you know oversight on our behalf we should be asking to see that report we should read that report we should be asking the cia publicly to to comment on the report with a comment on its official rebuttal of the report and on the panetta review of the report and then we should make the decision of. that was larry seems author of the torture report. now it's been a month since a series of accidents shuttered the only toxic waste repository for nuclear bomb building facilities in the u.s. but the operator of the trouble dumb says it found a waste
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a temporary home in rural west texas the waste isolation pilot plant near calls bed new mexico disposes of waste from los alamos national laboratory it's been shuttered for over a month following two separate accidents an underground truck fire and a radiation leak the letter happened on february fourteenth and affected seventeen of its workers now the nuclear waste partnership says it is proposing to ship the nuclear waste over the border to a site in andrews county texas until the new mexico plant reopens the texas facility as agreed until the investigations into the accident or complete it federal officials released their report on the first accident last week it says the underground fire was preventable and points to poor maintenance and emergency planning at the facility called bit residents in the meantime continue to wait for the results of an investigation into the second accident the radiation leak there were reports of elevated radiation readings in the area just last week local
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officials say the radiation was not related to the february of the and is not a public health threat the final report on the leak is expected in the next few weeks. now in ohio a libertarian candidate for the governor's race in two thousand and fourteen charlie earle is desperately trying to get on the ballot but it's become very difficult for him after the judge of a district court in ohio ruled that charlie oral was ineligible due to invalid collection of petition signatures the same judge also wrote this about the person who brought up the case against the libertarian candidate his testimony. demonstrates that he likes even a basic understanding of the nature of the protest you agreed to sign to state the obvious feel such as testimony as well as other evidence in the record supports an inference that operatives or supporters of the ohio republican party orchestrated the protest at full sochi signed but that still had no bearing on the legal issue
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at hand earlier today i spoke with charlie or a libertarian candidate for governor in ohio i first asked him why he thinks the g.o.p. was behind him getting kicked off the ballot ok the court decision was issued yesterday the opinion of judge watson which basically said that we would be allowed on the ballot due to sabbatical issues one of which we had a deficiency in our petition filing in the same set our independent contractor good gathers signatures for us didn't indicate who is employer was it justified in the secretary of state's hearing that he had been petitioning you know while for more than ten years that i never had to do it before and since she was a self-employed independent contractor and it was necessary to do that we also found out in
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a federal hearing that that that element never been enforced that is state of ohio at least in the last ten years so. we were a little puzzled by that but but the law strictly says that that portion must be filled out so i guess they decided at this time to finally enforce the issue and so we have filed an appeal in the six circuit court of appeals and that was. docket it this morning at ten o'clock. mr earle and his opinion judge watson also noted that quote the ohio democratic party or its operatives or supporters provided assistance to the libertarian party of ohio in their efforts to get their petition signatures so the democrats were helping you out well not directly in the sense that there is a firm called strategy network that does a lot of work for democrats and democratic oriented issues they also represent the freedom to marry organization who has
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a lot of affiliation with libertarians and it was the strategy network that put some of their people to work collecting signatures for us these were on affiliated . collectors circulators they were democrats not registered democrats and in fact it is secretary of state kerry all of their signatures were valid there was no issue there the only issue is with the paid independent contractor but wouldn't the democrats be interested in you being on the ballot because they kind of makes you a spoiler for the republicans well perhaps but that's sort of a mess surrounding libertarians historically we draw from both parties and actually we draw from from people who are disaffiliated in disillusioned with both arcs roughly fifty percent of the voters don't belong to either party now they may lean rider early laughter or whatever but i don't alice is for example of virginia
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probably the most recent example they went back and did it analysis of. polling after the election exit polling and found out that more democrat leading people voted for sarvis that republican leaning people i would go to the data that i've seen would indicate it red states if you draw a few more republicans over democrats in a blue states we drove a few more democrats just because of the sheer numbers on both sides we draw from. both sides of the spectrum i think it's just a mystery probably because we preach constitutionalism it to individual liberty and that's part of their playbook so they don't implement it they see us is a threat on our right i think we're a threat to both parties that was charles or a libertarian candidate for governor in ohio. and before we go don't forget to tune in for politicking with larry king tonight's episode features david jolly or the florida republican who just became the newest member of the house of
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representatives here's a snippet of what's to come to me but i did deserts on this is very unusual usually has elected republicans to congress but it gave its vote to obama in the last two elections of pinellas county and environs sure well that's why this race was so watched i mean this way if i was not a candidate i'd still be fascinated by this race it's a fifty fifty district roughly a third a third a third it's a purple district it's the anchor of the i four corridor in critical florida so it has everything you want it's the super bowl of politics in a special election like this what can't be overlooked though this is a one county district and it is a community district and for all of the interests of the national parties you know i always knew that we would come out on the right side of this race because i knew this community as my community it's my home tip o'neill was right all politics is local there are a lot of local issues in this race obamacare was one that affected us locally but
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at the same time it was more than that in this race this is a one county district it's a it's a great district it will be just as close in november i wish it wasn't my attitude is if i do my job over the summer as i had promised that the voters i would do i think november will take care of itself so tonight at nine pm tonight here in our team america. that's it for now for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r.t. america and check out our website r t dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter at gynae underscore our team connect. the fact that. everybody go to do is go did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution and they're trying to that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy track numbers. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of
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in two thousand and eight i went down to wall street to talk to the bankers on the street about their opinion of the impending tarp bailout and none of them wanted to talk to me for some reason they were all no comment no comment it was a rough time for those poor bankers so at the time i actually asked a lot of them in jazz if they'd seen any other bankers jumping from buildings to their depths they said no and i said not yet that was six years ago and now six years later and twenty fourteen we've already had eight bankers commit suicide many by actually jumping from buildings just like i predicted catalyst for londo just come to his death in manhattan he was in the investment bank analyst who worked at j.p. morgan among other companies whose sole purpose is to figure out how to make money from other people's money. a former senior executive of deutsche bank was found dead of an apparent suicide in his home on january twenty sixth another j.p.
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morgan employee threw himself off the roof of their european headquarters on january twenty seventh achieve a kind of mist was found dead near a bridge in washington on january thirty first another j.p. morgan executive killed himself in connecticut on february third the founder of insurance company american title services was found dead on february fourth after shooting himself with. yet another banker jumps from a j.p. morgan headquarters building at this time in hong kong on february nineteenth a trader at birth. grew up in manhattan threw himself in front of the long island railroad train on march eleventh and now kenneth blondel makes eight and there's also been a handful of other financial professionals whose deaths this year have been very mysterious and haven't technically been ruled a suicide yet but all the hallmarks and now conspiracy theories trying to tie them
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all together are blowing up on line but i don't think there's anything mysterious going on here i saw it coming sixty years ago it's not that i'm some especially pression fortune teller i was just stating the obvious the current path of these bankers greed high stakes gambling and the knowledge that they were screwing their neighbors would also really be too hard to live with for any human so now it's time for another prediction of the obvious that the financial system still continues to be built of smoke and mirrors and greed and it's completely unsustainable and because of that we're heading right for another crash but this time it might be enough to bring the whole system down for good you heard it here first again tonight let's talk about that by following on twitter at the residence.
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i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find marshal larry king now right here on our t.v. question or. welcome
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to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser we have a solution to the manufacturing crisis in america potemkin factories filled with potemkin jobs oh how the perturbed markets will be impressed to see a thriving protest going to come to me stacey yes indeed max the first headline today is how to create a manufacturing renaissance change the definition well first before we look at this change of definition we're going to look at this chart of u.s. manufacturing jobs from one thousand nine hundred to present and as you see on the right hand side of the chart the red line down that's the collapse in manufacturing jobs down forty percent since the u.s. went off the gold standard of the one nine hundred seventy s. so the government agencies have come up with a new idea to make the economy look a little bit better maybe we could foster some more of that wealth effect and that is they're considering redefining it and they're going to call it factory less jobs
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producers firms that handle every part of making their products except the actual fabrication as industries have gone global this model has proliferated from furniture making to about tronics think of apple and its i phones now there is a move afoot among u.s. government agencies to count these companies us manufacturers which is a surprisingly fraught issue. right the manufacture of apple products is in china but america wants to be able to say that it's being manufactured in america exactly so we're going to change the definition of factory jobs to factory list jobs factory list manufacturing but it's happening in america even though it's actually happening in china so i would suggest that they create some kind of system where the factory list jobs in america are video terminals of people watching factory workers in china you know in norway i saw that they have a new t.v. show it's a reality show where they just put a camera on a cruise ship going through the few words and people love the show they're watching
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it as if they themselves lived a doorway which of course they themselves do but they themselves number go outside to look at the fjords because our home on their computers that were made in the factory was conditions in california that are looking at chinese workers in china who are actually having factory jobs but those wages are not commensurate with anybody else who is able to consume the actual products that they're manufacturing because they don't make enough so they have to talk about the products that they can afford while they're better fracturing them on a video camera in california from people who are have factory jobs thinking that they themselves are manufacturing jobs but in fact they're just speculators. something like that and of course on the world stage america can always continue to be number one because one of the things they point out is that the upshot would be an overnight increase in the apparent size of the u.s. industrial sector without adding a single assembly line it would also change its geography as places like silicon valley would suddenly look much more like a manufacturing hotspot backers of the change say this would give
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a truer picture of the nation's productive combat capability because these firms will still do most all their functions of manufacturing from designing goods to overseeing their production and distribution well this reminds me last year i believe mcdonald's was able to lobby the government to classify hamburger assembly at the restaurant as a manufacturing job so manufacturing in america was redefined to include hamburger flipping so this is one of those adjustments that are made from the economists whether they redefine the c.p.i. the inflation index they redefine g.d.p. growth index they redefine productivity how that's calculated here they're redefining what manufacturing is what they don't want to look at is the fact that wealth and income is widening to levels that were not even that great during the gilded age of the turn of the last century they don't want to look at the social unrest and riots and and street protests around the world that are the result of this tinkering with the definition you know one of the just redefined riots and
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social unrest as democracy and put the people who are leading these social unrest in positions of power and let them run the country based on some kind of mandate toward representational government instead of having robots and s.t.c. poor watching nincompoops drag the population through a gutter of redefinition of terms in order to justify their outsized bonuses we're going to go into that situation in the next headline but first i want to say about the manufacturing being at the flipping of hamburgers that was in. the george w. bush administration back in two thousand and five two thousand and four and they also wanted to reclassify catch up. as a fruit vegetable a food product because so many americans eat there but now you talk about the possibility of uprising because of course if you reclassify the. all the jobs in china as us manufacturing jobs they'll always be able to point to the bottom ninety
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nine percent and say the economy is booming there are so many manufacturing jobs as you do the loser that can't find anything but watching your television screen well drones will cause an upper level of society like we haven't seen in seven hundred years the human race is on the brink of momentous and dire change i'm talking about the coming obsolescence of the gun wielding human infantry men as a weapon of war or to put it another way the end of the age of the gun so he's reckoning that since one thousand nine hundred we've been in the age of the gun and that's when a simple farmer with only a week or two of training could take on the noble you know horse archer who had ruled the world up until then so the likes of getting his congress sweep across central asia and take over nations because of horse archer gun restored balance of power in the society and eliminated the monarchies as we know them
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in the middle ages giving power to folks who had ideas about human rights and of course this is part and parcel which then became the enlightenment which began the rights of man which became the french revolution the american revolution all feel by the simple possession of a handgun or rifle which was as destructive as the horse riding armies trained by the monarch but you're suggesting that now we're in a post gun era where drones and robots who are mechanized and programmed to destruct and whose cost is virtually nothing are able to. to bring that balance of power out of whack once again and put it into the hands of the tom perkins of the world you know the monarchs of the world and to destroy this balance between representational government and the government so this is that what you're suggesting if i'm hearing you correctly yes we're looking at some authors version of what the future could be with we don't look at what is happening with the drone technology because at the moment for example the u.s.
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military as we know uses drones across yemen across pakistan across afghanistan and drops and lasers and evaporates human beings across the world and the so-called war on terror but the u.s. is also working on developing technology whereby actual humans won't even need to control those drones that could be all the robots and algorithms that. control these drones high frequency bots high frequency drones in other words the high frequency trading on wall street controlled by computers to their program to steal high frequency trading is stealing money from the exchange so there's nobody running these machines they just come in the check of what it was stolen overnight they take that money and they say thank you very much here you've got high frequency drones and robots that are programmed to kill they'd accountable to nobody there just programmed to kill you and they'll go ahead and kill you know i mean this does you know put put put a case forward for the right to own a gun this is what we're saying here is that in the constitution this is protected
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because the forefathers were very adamant about this balance of power well what they're saying is for seven hundred years the gun has been able to maintain that power but look at the early days of the invasion of iraq for example two thousand and three up until two thousand and six two thousand and seven twenty five million guys with guns were able to stop the biggest mightiest military in the world the world has ever known but now we have drones you know we could withdraw our troops there we could just keep on laser and evaporating them there a k forty seven s. do nothing against a drone and they're saying what happens when the elite start to control this because we do have the military industrial contract. the complex and they own the contacts and they start they're starting to run these drones and what happens when these gated communities start getting the drones and we see them being deployed across the us already so what happens when they protect themselves from us with these drones and none of your guns will be able to do what you know thomas jefferson said why we should own guns is that you can teach your government a lesson right so this is the issue going forward is that the ability to
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manufacture mass manufacture or drones and robots is going to give those the the stocker city the least qualified to rule unlimited power to oppress. the vast ninety nine point nine nine percent who are not part of the inner circle as it was before the gun came around so we're going back to the new dark ages as i've been saying for a while we're entering a new dark ages for all these various reasons that the age of enlightenment we've hit the peak age of enlightenment really heading back toward complete dark age well he concludes that the day that robot armies become more cost effective than human infantry is the day that when people power becomes obsolete with robot armies the few will be able to do whatever they want to the many and unlike the tyrannies of stalin and mao robot and force tyranny will be robust to shifts and popular opinion
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the rabble may think whatever they please but the robot lords will have the guns forever right any of the technologies like three d. printing and you have the ability to print. unlimited amounts of this type of robotic firepower and the population of people a large don't seem to be really aware of this encroaching threat to their civil liberties. i mean the right to bear drone i don't think that's going to be enough to fight off the hordes of technologists who are preparing for this complete and utter antics. nation of of human humanity with techno box. the robot warriors and then i have a final headline here to combine with this and that is facial recognition software helps catch a killer in florida after thirty seven years on the lam so now once you put this sort of technology in these drones guarding the elites you know guarded compounds here a guy a killer escaped from leavenworth fort leavenworth thirty seven years ago lived
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a full life outside in florida had a job had a wife had kids and then facial recognition software he passed on c.c.t.v. camera somewhere the facial recognition recognized him as a killer on the run now we say ok he's a killer. i mean things like this is a just a rebel guy this is a guy who hates our system this is a guy against monsanto blah blah blah let's laser him and drone him well that's true they are criminalizing protests against corporations protest against factory farms in the food space protest against fracking here in the u.k. protest against the kind of corporate intrusions into the public domain is being criminalized back that up with unlimited drone manufacture and deployment and you end up with a dystopian nightmare that even alex jones in his worst moment of dystopian nightmare visions couldn't come up with you know that guy is right more often than
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not all right stacy we got to go thank you my drone robot lord calls. that all right stay tuned for the second have a lot more. of . it was a. very hard to take. that back with great care.
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for the. welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max keyser time now to go to nairobi and speak with elizabeth ross yellow of bit pace elizabeth welcome to the kaiser report thanks max glad to be here all right and we should mention that you're outdoors and we might hear some wind chimes and might see a couple of monkeys are in by at some point but tell us about bit pace what is it. send exciting new thing we started a few months ago and it made
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a lot of progress we are going to the east africa for sure and maybe africa as a holes virtual currency exchange that means rachel currency exchange to local african currency right well it seems like a virtual currencies like bit bitcoin in others i mean this is a natural application in africa were you have what are called the unbanked where the traditional banking system has not gone before is that correct it isn't i like to just say it's beyond bank and for the bank and i think there's a lot more banks here in africa that we believe but maybe at a different level than what you used to in other regions of the world all right let's take a look at the remittance market because that is clearly a huge business and this will be key going forward what is the size of the current remittances business to kenya who are the biggest players and how much do they have to possibly lose during this transition to a virtual currency market elizabeth. well max kenya is the second sub-saharan
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african country to have over a billion of remittances coming in every year next to nigeria so that one point three billion dollars comes in that's about one hundred million dollars a month comes into kenya and from abroad through this now what these remittances actually are is a little bit unknown there's a bit of variation depending on the reporting institution so we're not really sure if this is all to the end bank if this is investments from the middle class is this for people living in two countries in paying school c. or sending money back and so it's a bit of a mix but we're definitely targeting the lower end of the pyramid so those people sending back about one hundred dollars a month. every month to their family from abroad now the biggest player so far are the money transfer operators like the western union the money grams and then next on the list are the banks that actually have counters for these money transfer
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transfer operators inside them so if you're in the u.s. you might see a money gram agent inside the citibank or something like that that's what happens here in kenya people go to the banks so the most expensive is the m.t.o. inside of the banks next step is the banks themselves who do and transfer the transfer and then they go down to stand alone so the three biggest players in the market right now. right and i believe goldman sachs has recently published a report suggesting that in this area of money transfer money remittances virtual currencies would displace approximately one hundred fifty billion dollars or more over the next five to ten years but this is clearly a perfect application for a virtual currencies because the cost of sending money from point a to point b. is a fraction of what it would be from the traditional banking system or the western union's of the world so if somebody is living in london just to give an example and they
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are remitting money to kenya so i just want through a little bit exactly how does that work ok so let's look at the u.k. the kenyan corridor and that's actually one of the easier ones but it's still quite expensive so i mean. huge he asked for a living abroad in london a lot of people who might not consider themselves diaspora actually go back and forth between the u.k. and can use this is a really big corridor and still western union charges seven percent seven percent fee on one hundred pound transfer coming through for a real time transmission as they call it and then decide in seven presidents there's about a three percent affix margin which is kind of what we call a he didn't speak so people know they're getting charged about seven percent but they don't know that you know three percent i'm sorry that's the u.s. to kenya but the u.k. it's about five percent and no one percent to six percent for the u.k. to kenya corridor and nine percent or even ten percent from the u.s.
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to to to kenya corridor to the huge amount if you're spending about one hundred pounds you're paying ten pounds seven pounds of that hundred pounds is going towards a seat and you might not even know about that margin i mean there was over two billion made by western union and in exchange gains last year so this is just a really big area of nontransparent fees and pricing that we have and i don't know . if goldman sachs says we're going to be taking over a virtual currency remittance is going to be taking over that much market share i guess that would mean that the traditional operators don't budge it all we've already seen them start to budge their pricing and they're going to have to do so if we do anything we maybe pressure the big guys to start lowering their fees and i'll consider that a success. right well said so let's talk about the other aspect of this which is the volatility in the virtual currency this is an aspect that people tend to focus on and not focus on the price advantage of sending money as you point out versus
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the more traditional ways so talk about the fluctuation in the currency a little bit because my understanding is that if you choose you can eliminate that risk simply by converting instantaneously from one to currency to the other correct of course so obviously we're in the early days of the virtual currencies the market still a liquid pricing is still extremely volatile and most importantly it's still a little bit difficult to buy your virtual currency i mean as i got into this and as my family and my friends have gotten into this even in the last few months it's gotten a lot easier to buy currency buy virtual currency or exchange a virtual currency in real time to be able to take advantage of last minute pricing as we like to call it my favorite example is this t. shirt shop in east london that basically has a little price sticker which is a little rotating computers like a little gadget that has the price fluctuations right there and you take that to
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the counter and you pay whatever the price is at that minute i mean the prices are not stick you know not stable enough to really scratch your price on a bag of flour in a permanent marker i mean we all know that i'm not claiming that the situation that's why we have an online exchange show at the very last minute you check the price and then you convert into virtual currency and transfer it that way so we hoping as it becomes more and more easier to buy virtual currency then it's easier and easier to do last minute pricing and eventually prices will kind of stable out that's a raving for at least. so we're pace an hour the company it's a fairly new company is it how are these products being launched are you about to launch is it operating right now were you in the cycle of events essentially or a startup so were you along the path here we are very well i'm supposed to keep a little bit quiet about this but we're very well poised to launch very soon we're waiting on one last little gate to open for us but we've been very lucky in that we've attracted significant amount of funding we've got our prototype up and ready
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we have longstanding banking relationships here in kenya we're waiting for the last nod from the regulators and our partners to get things going but we're just waiting on a few last minute things that we hope to launch in the next quarter latest right so i'm speaking of regulators what's been their position so far every single country seems has a way then with some opinion on bitcoin and virtual currencies and virtual training they have different opinions different ideas different thoughts going forward so what is kenya stack up. you know if you compare it to let's say the us or the u.k. aus up and going well and can't comment specifically on that right now as we're currently in a process with the regulator however i will say that is not going to be many surprises here in kenya we were not going to be a pioneer and we're not going to be an outlier so let's just say that the situation if you look at that legal one of my favorite websites which has
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a map of the world and shows you where legislation is permissive restricted or forbidden you see a big black base for africa only south africa having made a single statement and their statement was we're watching it so we really don't think kenya is going to become an extreme color on that map and probably don't make any public comment for a while to come. well it stands to reason that in the banking game and remittance game clearly countries of cities like london or new york who enjoy this oleg aapl if you will or unchallenged position are going to have a much different opinion than let's say kenya where they don't have a long standing banking all of gobbling position and it wouldn't be fair to say that the government sees the potential in terms of helping the overall kenyan economy if you're going to inject a lot of money into the economy by getting rid of what are unnecessary fees your
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thoughts share i mean this is the first pitch slide of my pitch deck seventy five million saved in fees per year for the average and i mean when and passed they came to town and that's it being our domestic digital currency here in kenya which is a huge penetration rate and it's used by everyone i never carry cash anymore actually all my transactions are done with them pasa locally when that came to town domestic remittances sort this was a huge boom and i think we've seen kenya to be a real innovator for our bubble products leading silicon so that enabling start ups the government has been nothing but support of and show continue to show their support for that so we're hoping we'll just continue that trend and understand that we're really just simply just a new kind of technological platform to be used for all sorts of financial services and we're here to work with everyone we're here to work with the telecoms here to work with the banks we're not here to be extremists this is not the place for that sort of behavior. so we're really just trying to be
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a mellow guy to come in and say people buddy you mentioned pay so there for m. paisa for a second now for a lot of people who are just coming out of this for the first time they confused your company with pace of the phone online money transfer business we've got about a minute. have left could just talk a little bit about the what's going on in the on the ongoing sham business and then how you fit into that show we'll pass it just means money in swahili if that's what everybody's grabbed on to that most important word in the economy and pass it has been around for a while i moved here five years ago no one was really using it as i said right now i use it every day for every transaction it's basically a mobile money account linked to your stem card and with the largest telecom operator which is a huge i would say monopoly here so everybody is on the same network and it just took off unlike in other countries where there was a more diversified telecom sector so because everybody is in the same situation it
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makes it really easy it is that money back and forth and you can load it through your bank now used to have to go to a cash agent and now you can connect to a bank that's something else we're looking to do i mean the banks here have really been all about mobile money lot of innovation in there so it's not as if the banking sector is traditional in other regions this is really an ideal place to launch mobile money products if you know how to play the game and you know how to do business here in kenya right so really basically you can let you go to the bank you load up your phone with credit and then you now are they have the ability to make transactions for you know phone to phone again it's very cheap to do so and it's taken off enormously in kenya for the reasons you just ascribed so bit paisa now is introducing virtual currencies into the mix and getting into the global money transfer business to compliment what's already there a huge infrastructure in mobile payments correct yeah i mean just to clarify it's
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not airtime it's actual money so that m.p.'s a point is similar to a kenyan shelling so you prepay and flow the banks and then telecom prepay and slow so we're not substituting the currency we're just digitizing it so it's actually money that you can use it's not air time which is separate and the cool part is that we always consider ourselves global and pasa connecting the domestic m.p.'s economy to a global virtual currency rather than exporting and pass and trying to get other countries to use it we're actually taking an existing digital currencies virtual currencies and trying to connect them to mobile money networks that are already living and breathing in a really healthy way down here in east africa. all right fantastic elizabeth thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thanks for having me max. all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert i'd like to thank our guest elizabeth ross yellow paisa if you'd like to get in touch tweet us a kaiser report. rules
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a little. snippet. of the the. look at. what's going on folks i'm michel martin and this is breaking sat's well we've got a lot of ground to cover today let me talk about the cold war media frenzy the quest for spiritual truth and i get to speak to one of the most prolific psychedelic artists in the world alex gray you don't want to miss it so stick around and let's break the set. of the book look particularly terrible a little very hard to take a look. at you ever had sex with her right there.
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in. the for. the fun. little. the little sleepy. little. look that. two weeks ago is that i decided to go and see editorial line of my network by using this platform to call out russia's military action in crimea when i woke up the next morning i was praised as an anti russian hero in the mainstream media only because my statements fit into the cold war resurrection happening across the political establishment but what happened next was fascinating because i went. my message get distorted by a group of neo con warmongers here in d.c. james kirchick has been on our t.v. for a troll the network and was subsequently brought on imus of b.c. to tell the world i was a lunatic a day after i made my own our statement the very next day my former colleague liz
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wahl resigned live on air stance of be unrelated to my statement only then to celebrate a media blitz and freedom selfie with none other than james kirchick would also publish the first exclusive why i quit exposé on her resignation just an hour after she left the studio fast forward to yesterday where truthdig published an investigative piece by journalists max blumenthal and run your kalak revealing how my former colleagues resignation may have been pre-court unaided so nineteen minutes before wall resigned the neo con think tank foreign policy initiative took to twitter to announce word on the street says that something big might happen on our team in about twenty to twenty five minutes then ten minutes before the resignation they tweeted again you're really going to want to tune into r t so how is it possible that the think tank knew in advance that my former colleague was about to resign well one only has to look at who was a part of this thing to understand the story more clearly see foreign policy initiative or f.b.i.
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as a think tank that grew directly out of a project for a new american century or p neck he now consisted of some of the worst of the worst bush administration officials that seized on nine eleven to push the u.s. invasion of iraq but after penile could become synonymous with propaganda and foreign policy blunders f.b.i. took its place and has since pushed for such failed policies of stand troop surge and military intervention in syria according to f.b.i. official mission statement the us and its allies face many foreign policy challenges they come from rising and resurgent powers including china and russia wow two senses in there already fear mongering about russia and guess who's a senior fellow at f p i j. kirchick one half of the famous for himself and there's only four people who sit on this board first there's dan sr a man who was the spokes person for paul bremmer governor of iraq following saddam's out of steam senior was also mitt romney's foreign policy adviser and
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there's eric edelman former under secretary of defense for george w. bush is trying to describe the discussion of changing course in iraq as quote traitor talk then robert kagan co-founder of pina and last but not least william kristol widely regarded as one of the fathers of neoconservative ideology looking a little bit more of this organization i was surprised how many times i had been mention on their website these guys have been following this story pretty closely trying to spin it as negatively as they can even posting one facebook status update by none other than her chick of a self their rights think of martin as the puppet opposition in a dictatorship like moscow's citing its right to protect russian minorities in ukraine as a pretext for its occupation of crimea martin's act of pseudo dissidents is a good old fashioned false flag whoa ok let me get this straight kurt chicks concocting a paranoid conspiracy theory about my being a russian secret agent yeah i'm the crazy conspiracy if there is here interesting
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and as you can see he's nothing short of obsessed with russian arty specifically he also really loves to repeat the words state propaganda and cold war over and over and over again while never mentioning the fact that he himself was a state propagandist that's right he works for radio free europe which is one of the biggest state funded networks in the world which used to be funded by the cia and is now funded directly with us tax dollars to spread pro-american views as one of the only media spokespeople for f.b.i. james kirchick role is to promote new conservative ideology to promote u.s. military like advocating putting nato troops on the ground around russia to show russia we mean business to promote israeli occupation oh and to promote the execution of whistleblower chelsea manning. and even though he's a seemingly independent journalist writing for the daily beast his real puppet tyr is william kristol and if there's one thing we know about bill kristol is that he really loves war according to truth to crystal's we standard outlined f.b.i.
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earlier this month insisting that current geo political crises could be exploited to reverse america's war weary post iraq and prevent further cuts defense spending and we can have that all that's needed he says is the rallying and the turnaround could be fast and what better way to rally than to have your neo con minions parade around the mainstream media helping to resurrect the cold war with r.t.d. as its central target look i'm not alleging any conspiracy here but clearly there are ideological motivations and well connected forces of neoconservatism driving these obsessive attacks on me and this network. criticisms of russia's actions are valid but the foreign policy initiative and the stooges that do its bidding represent corrupt and dark forces that don't care about a free media diplomacy peace and certainly not human rights these people care about one thing us imperialism and exerting their power and global dominance truth be damned as we know in d.c.
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the truth is never as it seems in the house of cards is just that a flimsy stack of lies that can't be held up for too long. i. life is hard enough without having to worry about how materialism keeps us from having spiritual experiences these experiences outside of the realm of traditional religion are the basis of a new book called the quest for gnosis exploring the unifying ecstatic states we all experience the author gabriel roberts is a former evangelical christian and theological scholar he joined me earlier today to discuss his book which was just released today i first asked him what gnosis means and the context of what he's presenting and his book. primarily trying to show people that gnosis is an experienced based mystical knowledge it means that.
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we're often in western culture and it in the media as well we're told what to think we're told what to feel and we're told to take someone else's word for it gnosis by definition thanks and great definition is experience all knowledge it means that you have to go through your own process you have to do the saying in order to yield the benefits of that experience and once you do that it changes the nature of your belief from something that is sort of a blind faith into something that's more of a practical knowledge and understanding of the world and even mystical states i wanted to quickly explore psychedelics maps has done groundbreaking research i know that psychedelics helped you on your journey and to mrs and why do you think that there is still such a taboo topic in the country today. well i would say that graham hancock is one of the writers who's also in the book is
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a bestselling author of fingerprints of the gods and the book supernatural and then a huge discusses and also in my book he discusses. this fear of you know allowing people to have autonomy over their own mind and his argument would be that if we can't have control over our own minds then what autonomy do we actually have we're talking about doing our own thing terence mckenna the the great writer said that. society as a whole might not want us to experience the psychedelic experience because it might give us funny ideas and so we don't want to have people running around having new ideas that have appeared that it's much easier to just keep things as they are and keep a structure that that keeps people thinking the traditional thoughts the things that have worked for everybody else for a long time but in reality i don't think that they have worked and if we look into
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our distant past as graham hancock would also point out in this book supernatural you find that this is been a part of the human spiritual experience and very well may have been the birthplace of spirituality ended the psychedelic experience is integra to a spiritual and experience in many ways you take no account you mention logic i want to explore that a little bit and the possibility that human understand belief is always changing so where does rationality and following are logical mind fit into the quest of gnosis . well i think that the the biggest thing to recognize is that we do believe in a consensus reality if you drive a car off of a cliff it will fly off the cliff and it will crash there is a consensus reality however we also understand that it's the way that we perceive the world is our own kind of custom made reality it's what robert anton wilson the author called reality tunnels and each of us builds those things upon you guessed
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it our experience and when we limit our experience because of fear or because of what someone else tells us we limit ourselves to having not broader perspective so actually logic would tell us that there is a lot less that is static there is in fact everything is moving and changing in it if that is the case then the logical thing to do is to take each experience and measure it against our own logical process against what we already know and perceive and to bill. upon that once we have things that are fairly firm as far as taunts ups we can build upon that with you know with with a fair amount of understanding and confidence that we're moving along the right path amazing how we don't really learn how to think and school you know the trivium kind of distance very basic concepts of how to process knowledge and expand on expand on that it's a really really amazing gabriel as you know we live in
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a non-secular world of course we're eight out of ten people subscribe to some sort of religious ideology do traditional religious views help warm played at keeping the sort of enlightenment that you're describing. what i think the one of the most interesting things that has occurred is that each with a just system and it does it goes down to every single individual's sect within a religious structure each one uses gnosis uses this this kind of understanding and even these ecstatic states that are gnostic ecstatic states and then they appropriate them they said well ours is the only real one arse's the only true on women reality this common thread that i'm talking about runs throughout all of these religions and they're all using them as a proof text for their own individual religion but in fact this state is a proof text that we have a uniting factor occurring that we have something that's going on that's happening
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to all of us whether we are in an extreme religious situation or whether we are at it you know an atheist taking a nature walk we can be experiencing the precise same thing so no sis's something that brings us together rather than terraces apart traditional religions need to make money just like everybody else does and as you know little mini corporations of their own they have their own and they have to do what they gotta do to to make it look like there's the best it's like branding ascension i write about. and the common thread that exists within us all gabriel thank you so much gabriel roberts author of the quest for noses everyone check it out contributor to disinfo dot com and reality sandwich dot com appreciate coming on. thank you. coming up my exclusive interview with visionary artists alex and alison gray stay tuned. for the chance our force of that. little.
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six nations and the finish line of the boston marathon. not a. lot has happened here in london but . i suspect. they would like to know that you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shred albus. role. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the quote for the excellent work of our government and across several we've been hijacked why handful of transnational corporations they will profit by destroying what our founding fathers but once built up i'm job market and on this show we reveal the big picture
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of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem to try rational debate in a real discussion critical issues facing america to find a job ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture the. the . alex and allison greer to the most influential and radical artists of the last thirty years their psychedelic transformative and visionary work has been a showcase all over the world and even featured as album art for bands like nirvana and the beastie boys and tool alex is probably best known for his depiction of trans loose and an anatomically correct human bodies that forced the viewer to examine the role of human spirituality and higher consciousness but along with their painting the grays also engage in performance art sculpture and installation
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art and perhaps the most famous collaborative piece between them is the chapel of sacred mirrors a trans denominational church featuring a series of alex's paintings has been lauded as one of the most important works of spiritual and transcendental art in the world the greys have also had an extraordinarily influence extraordinary influence excuse me on my artistic expression which is why it's an absolute honor to have them on the show today alex allison thank you so much for joining me. on the. alex year i start having of course alex here is self described visionary artist and often speak about your art as a way for people to develop their inner sight how would you say that your art facilitates that development. well. when people turn with him and then. experience. creative vision airy imagination and. you see it is another world in another dimension and they recognize the importance
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of this dimension and they want to translate it somehow and. it's i think it's a basic human motivation and so seeing anyone do it and do it authentically from some kind of soul intuition is inspiration for any of us to pick up a pencil or whatever kind of creative tool we like to use and speak the truth truth goodness beauty all of these work together to find an ideal expression through each of us indeed and one of those interesting aspects of your art is the anatomically correct depiction of inner body systems you spent five years studying and add me to harvard why is scientific accuracy so important to your vision alex. well i think that science is the. razor by which we measure the truth and so my bodies
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rather than focus on one gender or race are looking for a universal kind of expression and so the sort of scale of toll an anatomical figure is the scientifically medically defined human being and it's universal and so that's the aspiration is to find what unites us salute alison probably the most famous project that you and alex have collaborated on is the chapel of sacred beards you talk about how the vision for the church came about and what ideals the chapel promotes. the vision for the chapel of sacred mirrors have occurred. on our first experience our first journey using. the substance m.d.m.a. and we were lying on our bed and we were you know our blindfolds were on and coming out of that experience we both had seen the chapel of sacred mirrors
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and we were we were talking about it it was a simultaneous vision and so since one thousand nine hundred five when that happened we have. then on a very interesting path toward how do two artists build a chapel and that's and that's the story i mean that the mission of the chapel of sacred mirrors is to build an enduring temple of art to inspire a global community i mean it's really about the building of a temple to bring together a community that is that so loves each other and so loves the community itself that they want to build a temple you know all beautiful allison and alex let's talk about your latest project and beyond which is an incredible new building that will feature our work what do you hope to achieve with the newest installation here. well this will be a sanctuary a visionary art and theone mean place to discover the god within and so it will
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feature art work through the international visionary art movement there's many young artists alive today that are doing extraordinary works and its. history a visionary art that is here to serve the awakening. i think planetary civilization i think that is what is next in human experience is understanding that we are one. human family and that we have to work on saving the mother planet really that's what our question be about and not wars between each other absolute the revolution of consciousness i can't think of another artist that depicts this as well as both of you alison you and alex of collaborating on art work and life for nearly four decades i mean i think what's so inspiring more than anything is the strong bond and spiritual
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relationship that you guys have held how do you manage to keep that so strong. well i think these simultaneous visions have been amazing i think it's our spiritual life really. it keeps us together in our spiritual life you know i grew up jewish alex christian but our spiritual life has been revolutionized by psychedelics and so we find that that's true for a lot of people and communities gathered that feel this opening to spirit through the use of these what we call sacraments what we think of as sacraments and to use them in a sacramental setting you know well it's designed to it's science now i mean johns hopkins has proved it and it's science and it's it can cause mystical experiences and people have them and they want to gather together around that so that's that's been i think the glue to our relationship in having a project together and many projects a lifetime together we share
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a studio for thirty eight years so we're together in the studio all the time we're always looking at each other's work and we've influenced each other's work more than anyone or anything ever could i mean isn't alex you often future religious figures in your work i should just mention growing up jewish growing up christian such as buddha jesus how does organized religion fit into your notion of spirituality. well i think that humanity is a valving through various waves of consciousness evolution so each religion sort of emerges at its proper face and so now we have a multiplicity of many different approaches to. arrive at the divine and we like to think in a way that that religion is a united human expression and by looking at what unites
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it such as the arts. creativity runs through all the world religions we wouldn't know of their stories or see their architecture or art and things like that so creativity it is. something that runs through all of them so we start to think of creativity as a trans denominational kind of religious orientation or spiritual practice so and many artists talk about when they are doing their art work that's when they're in contact with this creative flow this creative flow is none other than the creator working through us so that's that's our quest to provide a place for that realisation we don't advocate the use of these sacraments and certainly don't do them at our. church it is a current struggle i think that the sciences and the arts are trying to find
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a proper context for these heart opening sacraments in our evolving society and alex speaking of spiritual depictions i can't help but ask you about the famous painting of bronco obama in two thousand and eight it took me by surprise because i am such a huge fan and and you know i just wanted to see personally what you were trying to express with the painting and do you think the president has lived up to your portrayal of him here. well i have to say the painting was done prior to the election. this was back in two thousand and eight and there was a mccain. versus barack obama and i was at a tattoo convention and i thought. let's start some conversations because of those two candidates that was the one i would go with and so
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i've appreciated having a president who can think on his feet and who is you know whip smart and has made some advances. in the health care and also and the. gay rights and things like that i think this is really actually pretty important stuff but there's been so many ways that i've been disappointed so you know i i've gotten a lot on my face for doing this and creating a kind of unrealistic ideal for any anyone to live up to but i love to see the best in people and at that time prior to the election he was the first person i think to have been embraced by the world and certainly in. you know in relation to his predecessor he was
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a much. hoped for kind of transition so it was on that ride of enthusiasm that many artists not just myself but actually dozens and dozens of artists prior to the election made art about barack obama and that's unprecedented and you made it with the third all i did that was yeah well i've totally hear you're saying you know and that's what's so amazing about your art is that you're putting up this ideal that you want to see be achieved it's not that you're reflecting from it already is that this is the universal language that we can all hope to achieve gather together and put our collective consciousness together to achieve an alex i know that you've served on the board of the center for cognitive liberty and ethics and i wanted to go to you and just talk about the notion of cognitive liberty. why is that so important about noah by the way well i really want to give it over to alex he is the great spokes martyr for the cognitive
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liberty let's just say. so well over the book the freer that our minds are the more imagination we can put at the disposal of finding a way to get along and make something beautiful together as a human race. what i think is important now is to reclaim our hearts our compassion for ourselves and for our mates and for the world for our communities look for ways that we can put peace out in the world that's why we make art we think art is the opposite of war we think that artists you know wage peace and so that is our quest you guys are both beautiful people huge inspirations to millions of people around the world thank you so much alex alex and gray a true pleasure to hang with you be thank you abbi. that's our show you guys join
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me again tomorrow and i break the set all over again. i know c.n.n. the m.s.m. b c news have taken some nuts lately but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and i think. it's because one call attention and the mainstream media works side by side with you actually on you. at. martinez we have a different approach. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not how.
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he got us into the jobs well handled that i got a. chance for forcing. him to finish line of the marathon. but. this is a media lead us so we need to be. by the same motions your. party physical. issues that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all politics. are too.
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long dependent on the world bank and the international monetary fund africa finds itself crippled by foreign debt and remains a continent of great poverty and inequality is. as long as we are in thrall to and dominated by debt i'd even go so far as to say enslaved to debts there is no attention paid to social affairs like health and education can you imagine if we have to sacrifice congolese children who have to die who cannot study because they have to pay for the debt. the international community talks about generosity now they are talking about canceling the debt as an act of generosity by controlling the country's resources. that date debt is used to keep
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countries with natural resources under control. it is used to control countries in the southern hemisphere both politically and economically. today we've got less than five percent of the world's population living in the united states consuming almost thirty percent of the resources and roughly half the world is living in poverty close to starvation are actually starving that's a failure it's not a model it's not something that can be replicated in africa or india or latin america so it's a failed system we know that it's the failed system. like the world bank and the
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international monetary fund play a crucial role in the entire history of the debt crisis a fact. created in nineteen forty four began to lend on a large scale developing countries in the sixty's. they had actually started in the fifty's. the real surge in loans explores in the sixty's. the roles of the i.m.f. and the world bank have changed radically since then it's all driven both institutions have become instruments of oppression. and control over new sovereign countries in the immense atmosphere. the most typical way that economic hitman work is it will identify a country that has resources our corporations covet like oil for example and then arrange a huge loan to that country. from the world bank or one of its sisters. doesn't
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actually go to the country and goes to our own. in the democratic republic of congo is the most powerful in africa it's also one of the best examples the workings of the system since it was built one problem after another. represents the most emblematic of what we call the. realisations that have increased the country's foreign debt with objectives that have nothing to do with human or economic development but. today the congolese people have to pay for a station which was not built for them but to supply energy to the. two kilometers away. what i find appalling is the complicity of the multinationals of certain countries of businessmen and even of scientists who proposed to us this giant machine. but today we have reached a situation where we have to pay back the debt without necessarily having access to
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electricity. but the main problem that we face when we have financial institutions like the world bank or the international monetary fund when we debated the construction of the dam these institutions knew that we weren't going to use all the electricity nevertheless we were made to build this stand because it suited the big multinationals today it is the congolese people the little people who pay. so for me this stead is odious we should repudiate it and we should even ask for compensation from all of these companies who brought us equipment that didn't work . ingo is an example of something that has not worked but it's also an example of an investment that can were you've mentioned in those three and for our interest in seeing that the existing investments in are actually used to generate
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electricity for the people see ultimately over time maybe this in future ingo can provide electricity elsewhere but we're not there yet right now the priority is getting to work. he did today was to link to the katanga mines there by passing electricity through a high tension line which flies over most of the country. could be punished at any time by cutting the interactor in the lower congo. we want an interest of the you know village after all it is ours. instead of the foreign countries are using it. and we who own the power find ourselves in darkness . what is happening is that angola south africa and what's wanna be the authorities with currencies well the people of lower congas feel less interest
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. in this village like in all other villages the main difficulty is the electricity supply. does the dam also has its own problems it cannot supply electricity in the entire public republic and more particularly in the capital kinshasa which experiences major problems with regard to energy supply. and as you can see we find wooden post says they are there defeated and lines which literally cross the rooftops of houses. with this situation we risk having problems with electrocution even house fires. in a village near that. witnessed an incident which could have had dramatic consequences .
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everyone knows that electricity contributes to development in the well but when there are no roads we need them so you can transform farming produce electricity would allow us to conserve and packaged goods but what is happening today i think produce rots is it if we had electricity we could save our forests today we destroy them for firewood so we lose out twice a day dead has its consequences now the forest is being destroyed instead of being able to use electricity we are destroying our forests. the forests of the congo basin cover an area of over one hundred seventy two million access. in a widespread context of corruption and poor governance despite the moratorium and the forest code imposed by the world bank in two thousand and two attempts to reform that would industry have not yet met with any success in the democratic
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republic of congo and are in danger in the planet's second. some seventy percent of the world's poor people live in the countryside and depend completely on the eco system. houses them and takes care of them and. when the world bank finances projects that destroy the. quality of life and even the livelihood and survival of local populations. without permission we decided to try our luck at the steelworks. threatening to
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call for the intervention of the minister we were allowed to visit this immense empty factory. cities in this factory was built to use and consume electricity from the nga. yet we knew very well that when they were building this factory the raw material they were going to use was scrap iron and rusty iron gathered in europe which is unacceptable given what we know the country's potential in terms of minerals is. in effect the situation is ridiculous underground particularly in katanga the minerals are dug up to be exported eight thousand kilometers away and smelted. then used to make steel in the northern countries to make vehicles machines and when these vehicles are machines end up on the scrap heap they are compacted and shipped in
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a boat to my time in the congo. which causes the river to rise if you were to. go on the food this scrap metal is then melted in to create refined steel. it's completely ridiculous. so never worked it was money down the drain just a waste but not for the multinationals which one yet to meet in a small time national sold their technology it is the congolese people who are losing out today. and all the wealth is being controlled because of this debt. i look at what is the reasoning all the heads of the world bank and the i.m.f. . this is what they say we will make these developing countries used to the funding we provide them for the development and for the daily management of their business
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. if we make them reliance on this funding if you know we vary by obtain a means of influencing them and there is a dictator the certain type of policy the pretty take. over when robert mcnamara to covert at the world bank he wanted to do something grandiose. he began by boring on the markets in order to be able to lend more he flew home and sell loans in the south where some countries and me to they were completely incapable of being them back. saved so it's some point we can all make it mean go back and we say listen you know since you can't pay your debts give us a pound of flesh sell your oil real cheap to our oil companies or vote with us on the next united nations both it's critical to our to our policies or allow us to
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build a military base on your soil things like that and in the few times when we fail when we're unable to corrupt presidents to get them to accept these loans when we fail then the jackal's going on and they either overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders both rolled oats of ecuador and to rehearse of panama were assassinated because i was unable to corrupt them i couldn't get them to accept these conditions so must thank god he didn't. condemn the world bank the i.m.f. the exam lenders in general is a clear example. there was a coalition of interests against him by the great powers governments pre-sold. companies and international institutions. and the. gave the order to assassinate the day who designed the assassination plot that i don't know but what is clear is that those who assassinated him since he knew that they did it
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to defend certain interests and in these interests there would the interest of lenders that's for sure most of. the. big banks but. they would like to do it's job did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shred albums. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and our proximity we've been hijacked like handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers one school class i'm charged and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world to go beyond identifying the problem trucks rational debate
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and a real discussion critical issues facing america if i ever feel ready to join the movement then welcome to it. i marinate join me. in that impartial and financial reporting commentary and contribute and much much. only on bombast and.
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that's on top of all this is the context of the cold war when western countries strongly prodded these countries to become indebted to keep them in their place on it if it was very difficult for instance to stop backing and mobutu. even if we tried to me but given the geo political balance of the time he was you but we couldn't take the risk that a country so rich in mineral resources as a year could move to the wrong side. to no problem of the. problem with that is not its absolute level as he did me a home will say it's their ability of country to pay the back and with what means this. file structural adjustment programs are aimed at supplying capital to pay this debt. only reality we are reducing bad billet of these countries to
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achieve any economic success economy can kong. leasure the most what is structural adjustment on. it is really the awareness of the fact that these countries were put in a complete deadlock. it is to say that these countries were in bed and had an incapacity to continue to function which led to them taking quite drastic and radical measures. with the structural adjustments the following diagnosis was made with the economies acknowledge the deficits and these deficits have to be paid to pay these deficits with cuts in the public spending when necessary the first expenses hits were social expenses unfortunately. in doing that we cut spending including social spending and that obviously had a negative effect on health education and social housing report obviously.
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this took place at a time when natur was in power in the u.k. and reagan in the us. it was really the law of the markets. and so the economists of the i.m.f. the world bank and in a lot of other countries even bilateral cooperation said allow real prices to rule and all problems will be solved. i think that by doing that we did a lot of harm mainly because we didn't know ways to understand the economic policy of these countries. once the structural adjustments were imposed by creditors namely the world bank and i.m.f.
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it was like hell on earth here. at the hospital everything had become. consultations you have to pay to see the doctor to get more syringe is more alcohol. i mean it was hell people often died from curable diseases. and people in poor health who have no access to health care makes development impossible. you know you can't concentrate on development in those conditions at times it makes you sick and revolt because it is unacceptable and unbearable that's injustice in the world but the debt of congo fourteen billion dollars. what does that represent as of two thousand and ten the total of the developing countries public debt is in the region of one point three five trillion dollars. and the us foreign and domestic debt is thirteen trillion which is ten times more. should these countries
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continue to pay millions of dollars the president of the republican the government have said that it takes fifty million dollars every month to service its debt how much gets spent on health and education every month the answer is zilch. teaches in primary schools badly paid and underpaid. the teacher comes to school with little biscuits that she gives out to children who should pay them back. so already from the first year of school children are taught how to get in debt we. give to children and after three days children have to own. their parents for money it's like an international institution if you missed the deadline the child is forced to pay double the price
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really think if it sometimes this makes the child afraid to come to school. today with the system of parent the child who doesn't pay. before five times these economic policies have been conducted for reasons of budgetary adjustment we could no longer finance a certain number of public services and therefore we thought means of financing them through privatization. but the people who controlled the privatizations were people who came from the outside people well connected in the end and that did not produce very favorable results for people who were low down on the social ladder. one of the examples of the i.m.f. most brutal policies of privatization is body c p but that's just a false premise all the national transport office and private entrepreneurs who
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took over the national office. work according to the principle of private entrepreneurs which is completely normal. you'll soon see so they never send a lorry on the ground which in periods of famine in niger. leads to death as a dozen the rife because of this privatization you got this is. the international monetary fund applied the first program of structural adjustment in congo in one thousand nine hundred eighty six since then the i.m.f. has been there. and no progress is being made in congo i always say that it is like a sick person who goes to the doctor the chemists there are all there the laboratory assistants they do the tests they prescribe medicine and the sick person stay sick forever what should actually happen is that the doctor should resign and thats it. what is the role of the i.m.f. if it doesn't prevent crises what is the role of the world bank this bank which is
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supposed a development. if it be the i.m.f. kills the world bank by blindly of course not intentionally but by its dogmatic and here to the washington consensus which is completely brutal. but in poor countries people africa's a colony it's a colony of the big corporations it's a colony of some of its own leaders who are under the thumbs of the big corporations so in a way the european empires marched out and supposedly gave africa its independence but immediately the corporations marched in and a few handpicked leaders handpicked by the european nations and the court and the corporations took over many of the countries especially the countries with good resources.
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for thirty years all african and latin american economies have been or unstated towards we don't reimbursing this debt and this is completely shattered their economies in other words the ones that we have specialized in farming which represents eighty percent of the economy in countries like mali products such as cotton cocoa for export to west african countries. behind that is the neglect of food production and the exposure of these countries to famines and malnutrition and it's no coincidence that today if eighty percent of the world's population who are dying of hunger in fact don't exactly. agriculture with its current production rates could easily feed twelve billion human beings which is almost double the world's population in other words. cannibal world is that dictatorship of globalized financial capital has imposed on this planet is both
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murderous but at the same time. it is a figure speak for themselves i could take. victims of polluted water etc you. see they are asking us today to produce more products for export to make more money especially to pay back the debt so they force us to produce palm oil they ask us to produce coffee at the time of structural adjustment it was coffee palm oil cotton while people had to. ask the d r c as you have diamonds you have gold gold. would you can sell and buy products which may come from china or europe the chicken that comes from europe the chicken that comes from france do will key which come from
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the belgian avatars or from argentina the new one and we don't need them because we can raise our own i assure you that in this country when you have planted maize for months afterwards you already have the product yeah as for rice there are regions where we produce rice even here here where we are we produce rice but as for meat we have the. tongue today places like the plateau of are used for mining exploitation and today we import meat chicken awful we import more than one hundred forty thousand tons of meat an awful and chickens so all that is really a policy of submission a policy of dependence but we can grow everything here everything. in terms of the market fish frozen chicken. tomatoes even onions everything is imported rice too because there is no local production they used to be in these
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countries we used to have big rice paddy fields we grew it in these countries but everything that we produce here now has to be exported especially wood and petrol for the most part this is why you don't farm land to feed people. they have imposed a policy of zero cultivation in particular that is to say that here is given to increase today where even trying to substitute menu for bread in order to make weak imports more profitable because money is made locally so fortunately people hold on to their money their only productions that still exists are small family productions all the farms that were built during the eighty's to produce for the country and to make the country self-sufficient were destroyed. as the world bank has insisted that everyone plant food for export. that's all right if it is one two or three countries but when they read those and there are more countries which make the same thing remember and in the same quality of. coffee cotton metals
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etc that's an acceptable proof if there is too much supply on the market that brings prices down still concourse because this is led to a reduction in the income since the income comes from exports because they're told to do so and agree to do it you could do it in bill is a perfect example of this for export eighty year where we are held out the prospect of demand that the market exist that it only had to be produced commercially. and what do they find better to tell us today well we're incapable of feeding ourselves the group at google. because it has to turn towards biofuels well biofuels he lowers stomachs or will we have to field reserve wires to pollute more i don't mean right now we're selling cultural land because.
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we welcome their innate and abby martin to a tour of the coast guard t. network. it's going to give you a different perspective give me one stock tip never i'll give you the information you make the decision don't worry about it i'll bring you the said work with a mind it's a revolution of ideas and consciousness frustrated with the system extremely. would be described as angry i think i'm a strong enough under single. keep a clean heart to take a. look. at that fact that her hair looking.
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cute. cute cute. cute cute applause. i'm. i think. kind of can. do i'm the bank and all that all about money and i'm actually sick for a politician write the laws and regulations. coming up. here
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just to let pratt city. that i'm frustrated. over by the old if you if you did you know the press is the only industry specifically mentioning the constitution. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shrek. oh i'm. going to go on i'm sorry and on this show we were revealed the picture of what's actually going going on we go beyond identifying a problem you're trying to rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america among them are you ready to join the movement then welcome to the big city. oh i'm tom hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture believe it or not the
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republican party wants to lead the charge in the fight for voting rights so what happens more on that would like to happen tony in just a minute also corporations have one purpose and one purpose alone to make money for their owners and shareholders so how can they ever have something even remotely like religious beliefs and there is a cancer in american society cancer that's rapidly growing out of control i'll tell you what they cancer is and how we can stop it into my story to. you need to know this even republicans are speaking out against the g.o.p.'s voters' oppression laws well some of them least durham parents on the devil's advocate radio program earlier this week wisconsin state senator dale schultz the only represent a republican senator in his state to vote against a bill cutting back on early voting said he could no longer defend his republican
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party on the topic of voting rights schultz is not seeking reelection so he probably has more freedom to criticize and vote against his own party and a lot of other republicans but his comments were still remarkable take a listen it's just i think sad when a political party my political party has so lost faith in its ideas that it's pouring all of its energy into election mechanics and again i'm a guy who understands and appreciates what we should be doing in order to make sure every vote counts every vote is legitimate but the fact is it ought to be abundantly clear to everybody in the safe that there is no massive voter fraud let me just say my friend i am not willing to defend them anymore i'm just not i'm embarrassed by this. amazing stuff and what's all the more amazing is the people i deal schultz are the vast minority in a party that once led the charge on voting rights the united states after all it
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was a republican president dwight eisenhower who signed into law the first voting rights bill passed by congress since reconstruction the civil rights act of one nine hundred fifty seven today's republicans however do everything they can to prevent people from voting in two thousand and thirteen eight states all with republican controlled legislature has passed laws restricting voting rights and the g.o.p.'s anti-democracy campaign has continued into two thousand and fourteen ohio recently ended same day registration and cut back on early voting and wisconsin is about to cut back on early voting as well just didn't time for the midterm elections of course when it got to the voting rights act of one hundred sixty five last year the u.s. supreme court gave the republican war on democracy a big boost of those the republicans have used to push through even more restrictive voting laws all across the country so is there any way to stop them joining me now for more on this as well as the other stories of the day is mike babbin tonio attorney and host of ring of fire radio pap welcome back. great i want
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to start out by playing a clip of paul way ricky is the co-founder of alec the american legislative exchange council at the time that he gave this speech in a church in dallas to a group of christian republican activists he was working in one of the leaders of the reagan campaign he was running the reagan direct mail operation here is. how many of our christian have what i call them grown good government they want everybody to vote. i don't want everybody to vote elections are not won by a majority of people they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now come out of pocket or leverage in the elections quite candidly go up owning populist go go. so pap is that the kind of thinking that's motivating republicans to pass these voter suppression laws leadership in the republican party would agree with that i think it's really interesting the leadership the republican party got their autopsy report about
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a year or so ago remember that it said that everybody looked at that the party had some things in common and it was they thought that the party was regressive they thought that the party was oppressive in the way they treated people they thought that the party had alienated just about everybody everybody from females to minorities of every parent and they said it but rather than saying look this speaks for itself this is a bad autopsy report we're in bad shape rather than doing that is is dale schultz said when you open this program rather than doing that they said what we're going to do we're not going to worry about our party and what we've become we're simply going to stop everybody who disagrees with us from voting and so that's what's happened and unfortunately they believe that it's going to work in two thousand and fourteen they're they they now with the new wind behind them you know you just had a federal court in two states just agree with the fact that the state could go in
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arizona and i think kansas when and they they argued to the federal court we want to make changes that are in line with what our state preference is it was a states' rights argument the federal judge said yes you can do that and now that that's been ok we're going to see this we're going to see this worn out from here to twenty fourteen states like arizona and kansas going in front of federal court judges and saying you know what we have some states' rights in one state right is that the federal the federal system has to comply with what we want in our state and as i recall that that that issue what was it sure there was that they wanted to . malin absentee ballots people who have already registered to vote shown evidence of who they are to a registrar shown evidence of where they live to register are and they want to send an absentee ballot or vote by mail they have to send
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a photocopy of their id and i mean who knows that they have to even do this much less has a photocopy machine it off at home well tom it's go it's up on appeal but you understand the impact of that the impact is in every state they're saying to federal judges looked at this they agree that the states have some rights to dictate how these elections should take place you take that in in line with what the supreme court did to absolutely run over the rights of minorities in this country and all of a sudden you have a freight train leaving the station in the republicans are driving it you know so this is this is this is very tough time for people who want to expand the rights to vote you know it's you know it's been a tough year since the g.o.p. issued that autopsy that the now appear to be ignoring what you make of paul ryan's comments about how we have an epidemic problem in this country of inner city men who are lazy. i think you have to take paul ryan's comment and understand that paul
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ryan today is considered leadership tom and if you consider that leadership at this point is so comfortable so comfortable saying things like that when you have when you have rand paul out saying the things that he's saying when you have the senator the just last week said that that a business owner ought to be able to say i don't want to serve you because you're an african-american or i don't want to serve you because i believe that you may be gay it when it gets to the point where you have leadership in the party talking about that this is not dog whistle anymore what's happened tom is i really do believe they've looked at the demographics they understand it's a loser for him they are dancing and a house that's burning down. and so what they have to do is they have to figure out what do we do to really solidify the people that we can count on the show up in one way you do that is with hate talk one way you do that is with division like we're
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seeing from from the leadership from the top to the bottom of this new republican party and so we're going to see more and more that they're very comfortable with it we used to call it dog whistle talk tom we used to tell it we used to say that this was years in new window and suggestion that you had to listen closely to hear now they've abandoned all that no more dog whistle they're racist through and through they're not afraid to be racist what they want to do is solidify the white male stale pale voter then make sure that they're angry enough make sure they're afraid enough to show up at these elections they want to create in effect tom the same thing that the white population created down in south africa when the the the ratio was one one white two. thousand african-american africans in so what they had to do is they had to create this this we're why and we're going to stand together kind of idea that's what's developing here i promise you you know it's it's i think
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you're absolutely right last time you were on we talked about the allegations that the cia was snooping on the and a senate intelligence committee just today harry reid came out and made a statement that he said that the cia was trying to intimidate the senate intelligence committee and as really strong language from the leader of the of the democrats the u.s. senate. your thoughts on this whole thing president obama says he's trying to stay neutral in the controversy but the cia and the n.s.a. are actually under his. what's the part of the that is that's the most outrageous statement i have ever heard coming from a big chief executive say i can't get involved i have to just let this run its own way look at the people who are. worried about this our brand and he's very concerned about this because this goes back to the idea that the senate has a six thousand page report that's going to name names and talk about people like
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robert eaton jury member who he is he's the lawyer that was at ground zero that has his hands so dirty in this process that eaton ger is the one saying is making the accusations saying that the senate shouldn't be able to talk about this know what they're not saying that the senate did anything wrong except the senate discovered the dirty tricks that they were up to and because of that the senate shouldn't be able to talk about this that's their defense here you understand their defense is you caught us in by god you better not be able to talk about it that's the only defense they have in this president says i don't want to get involved really you know that is pretty grim in the about a half a minute we have left your thoughts on the largest three hundred seven companies in america holding two trillion offshore yeah well it's costing us about ninety ninety billion dollars is the outward projection of that they want to use our streets they want to use our police departments our fire departments they want to use our roads
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they want to use our military to protect them but they don't want to pay taxes for all that that's called the infrastructure we pay for all their infrastructure they pay for nothing and so in till somebody says it's at an end we're going to continue losing money three trillion dollars out there we have to pay taxes but they don't congress knows it's wrong they're afraid to take any action and it's a deplorable story that's extraordinary mike papen tonio thanks so much for being with us tonight. thank you. coming up coal ash is one of the most toxic substances around so why is a kentucky power plant reportedly dumping it on a regular basis in the ohio river a source of water for millions of americans of war on that after the break. lead.
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lists the people. i know c.n.n. the m.s.m. b.c. fox news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the truth and might think. it's because when full attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. and our teen years we have a different brain. ok because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not god. if.
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you guys stick to the jokes we'll handle to make us. happy. in spirit news just weeks after a duke energy own power plant leaked thirty nine thousand tons its toxic coal ash into the dan river north carolina the sira club says it has evidence of another coal ash spill this time in kentucky on monday that organization released a year's worth of photos of a louisville gas and electric no creek plant but it says proves that the plant has been dumping toxic waste into the ohio river for quite some time sierra club now says it will sue the plant for unabated dumping something this as a clear violation of the clean air act louisville gas and electric has yet to comment with over five hundred active coal fired power plants the united states
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it's very likely that there are many other spills that we don't know about so just how big of a threat is coal ash to our environment and our health joining me now for more on this is lisa evans senior administrative counsel at earth justice lisa welcome and thanks for joining us so let's start at the beginning what is call a. now. i've been to. can we apparently have a problem with your mike so while frank is fixing that i'm just going to say that you know a we've seen this giant spill in north carolina turns out the governor of north carolina was an employee of duke energy for mccurry and the courier and now you know in louisville but and what you were just saying the coal ash is your is is
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your mike working oh not yet ok we're if they call i'm very sorry that coal ash is is the basically you burn coal what you're left with is toxic waste. and that this toxic waste is filled with heavy metals it's it's even what very lightly radioactive i believe that would be included in heavy metals and just not good stuff for humans so let's try this again. which is anybody exactly right we have a toxic waste that's created by the electric utility industry in this country and the problem is is that there are no federal regulations controlling its disposal so you've got industry dumping none absolutely not and you've got industry dumping it in unlined and unmonitored pits and ponds and as we've seen most recently in north carolina now in kentucky this is a real problem is this not a classic example of how business internalizes profits externalizes costs exactly exactly industry doing undercut disposing of waste in
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a way that's cheapest for them but harmful to our health and environment it's extraordinary if louisville gas and electric has been dumping this stuff on a regular basis into this river and presumably this is happening all over the country and even were it might not be intentional dumps they're all vulnerable things like floods and hurricanes or whatever that might move this kind of stuff what kind of damage are we talking about when we talk about two kinds of damage so you have damage from catastrophic failure which we saw at the dan rivers spill in february of this year when we saw the catastrophic spill in kingston tennessee in two thousand and eight or a billion tons of toxic waste flowed out of a dam a poorly maintained earthen dam and swept through a river system and destroyed a community so you have the catastrophic failures but even more insidious you have over a thousand coal ash on throughout the united states that are slowly leaking into groundwater and that groundwater is an aquifer that might be drinking water it's
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then going from the groundwater into our lakes and streams and then you have the drive disposal which isn't always done safely either i mean we we don't regulate the disposal in this. we have this toxic waste where is the federal government does regulate our solid waste which is our banana peels and coffee grounds and and arguably nuclear waste i mean there's all all this discussion about nuclear waste which we obviously have figured out why has there been no discussion over all these years of and there's there's got to be millions of tons of stuff why has there been no discussion about you know i mean we have toxic waste and there's probably billions of tons throughout the united states disposed improperly and you know now we are talking about it you know through unfortunately through these spills but at least we're talking about it and through a lawsuit filed by earth justice in two thousand and twelve we now have a deadline for the e.p.a. to finally issue coal ash regulations with setting minimum federal standards throughout the country that's great. two things what do we do about the coal ash
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it's already here because these basically you know for kind of superfund sites all over the country and be was shouldn't this be a wake up call that you know burning coal to generate electricity is a really dumb idea absolutely burning coal comes at a huge cost to health and the environment and the disposal in these dangerous pits near our reservoirs you know our rivers has to be taken care of has to be cleaned up and most importantly these where you have done sites next to rivers interacting water it will have to be moved. so. where is there any legislation i mean there's there is a rule that by december nineteenth as a result of our suit against e.p.a. in december of twenty fourteen at the end of this year e.p.a. must issue final regulations so we are hoping those regulations require the phase
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out of these dangerous ash ponds like the one in kentucky and the one in north carolina and all over the united states and then that require clean up where it's needed and disposal most of all in so. engineers lantos where it belongs and do you think that's going to happen is the obama administration on the ball on this thing well i hope so i hope so but does that are there any indications that they are well we. we are seeing that they are not to that they've delayed the rule which was the reason we had to file the suit so we're seeing they need to push so they're getting the the pressure from the lobby is absolutely getting a lot of pressure from the industry very well funded yesterday lisa thank you so well thank you very much sounds pretty stations keep up the great work thank you.
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and the best of the rest of the news thanks to the conservative controlled supreme court and it's really an citizens united corporations are now protected by the fourteenth amendment just like humans but does that mean they also have the right to push their religious beliefs on their employees too and can a corporation even al of a religion that's what the supreme court will be hearing arguments about this week where it hears arguments in the hobby lobby and conestoga wood cases both corporations are suing the federal government over obamacare contraception mandate which requires insurance companies to pay for birth control pills which hobby lobby opposes companies are fighting for the right to deny insurance coverage to their employees for certain types of contraception that the company has owners say violate their religious beliefs but both of these cases extend far beyond whether corporations have the right to deny coverage for certain types of birth control and that's because hobby lobby is also asserting the right to refuse to pay for doctor's visits if the doctor even mentions any kind of birth control whatsoever
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they want to be in the doctor's office standing between the employees and the doctors monitoring the conversation to decide what they'll pay for. and what they want so if the supreme court were to rule in favor of hobby lobby and conestoga woods the court would be saying that corporations have the right to control which doctors their employees see and what's talked about during those doctors' visits and that's just insane right let's ask cheryl and harley former senior counsel for the u.s. senate judiciary committee and national co-chair of the project twenty one black leadership network sherrilyn good see you back nice to be with you thank you what about. first of all do you agree with the doctrine that corporations can have religion's. i think it's important to clarify for your viewers sort of the narrative around this whole thing because you know hobby lobby and its particular the green family. you know they are support of thick fifteen out of twenty
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f.d.a. approved contraceptives sixteen to twenty they only morally object to four they're opposed to birth control pills. no no no they are no see this is what i'm saying i think the narrative is wrong here they were offering birth control pills before obamacare but the other suing to say but but that letter many here says i think this is important for your listeners because these are the facts here they are. support sixteen out of the twenty f.d.a. approved only congress set tents there they morally object to for only and that is the i.u.d. emergency contraception and plan b. that's it they support sixty nine of the twenty they morally object to for so this narrative that they are denying women access to birth control time i'm sorry that's wrong. these are contraceptives however they support sixteen out of the
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twenty ok so the argument you are the argument you're making you're still making the argument that a corporation should be able to say we're going to stand in between you and your doctor and we're going to not only decide what kind of contraception you can use but we're also the other the second half of the lawsuit as you well know is that they want to be able to control what the doctor says if the doctor provides any information about any kind of birth control whatsoever they want to have a say in that conversation and what i want what gives them the right how could a corporation have a religion and what are you going to do when it's not a hobby lobby what are you going to do when it's a corporation that's run by jehovah's witnesses but want emergency means doctors have to be uncommon here at times the point is there are there are several other corporations that take stands on on issues some of them want to support and vajra mental policies others want to support you know free trade you know the whole coffee that's fair trade here were to i know i know but what i'm saying here is
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sixteen out of the twenty they support they morally object on those those four types of contraceptives because they believe marriage i mean isn't lack of morals a corporation is have them or only of course starbucks has a moral or box more morals they don't have that. is you know they've laid out very clear that they support gay marriage and it's no joke i am poor it's a corporation exactly it's a. ok the owners of the owners of starbucks can say we support the environment right owners of hobby lobby can say we don't want you talking to your doctor about the but that doesn't mean that they have the right to say you can't do it because of our religious beliefs any more than a company that is owned by seventh or job as witnesses can say when you go to the e.r. when you're bleeding to death from a car accident that e.r. doctor cannot give you the answer you want here is they feel that they should not suffer the penalties and i would argue that grace but it's and also also how is all
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they're saying is that this is restricting their freedom of religion and their free their liberties because they feel this is the time very moderate the solution our corporations given it but understand something freedom to access. birth control is not dependent on your employer in the cause that's my whole point freedom to access birth control is not to is not dependent on your employer for example we all have second amendment protections but your employer is not obligated to provide complete employees with guns vis this side so this is the law is that corporations if they're providing health insurance at that cannot discriminate between men and women and they have to provide all the gold let me give you another exists but this is let me giving other example in fertility coverage. many men and women want infertility coverage somehow it is sure it's companies don't provide it who says they have to some may provide parts of it they may provide drugs they may
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provide a one and we're out of ruts i'll leave you with the last word all right thank you ten years for talking. about that. we welcome karen nathan abby martin two of the coast guard t. network. it's going to give you a different perspective give me one stock tip never i'll give you the information you make the decision don't worry about i'll bring you the work of the revolution of the mind it's a revolution of ideas and consciousness in forestry with the system extremely your problems which would be described as angry i think in a strong enough one single. instance are forced. to finish line of the marathon.
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my. book. think. i would rather as questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.t.e. question. cut
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cut cut. cut cut cut cut cut. cut. cut welcome to your take my take a live our phone lines are now open so if you want to share an opinion make a comment ask a question live on the air give us a call at two o two i know for twenty one thirty four if you're outside the u.s. at either one or the number for international viewers here's a call we received on our rant line from a viewer in plymouth indiana. obamacare should be called welfare tree care or big profit big insurance. if you see the top five u.s. health insurers profit statements for twenty thirteen mean. yeah it is pretty mind boggling frankly the one good thing i suppose is that obamacare now says insurance
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companies can't make more than twenty five percent if it gets more than twenty five percent off the top and big companies can only skim twenty percent off the top it's pretty mind boggling this is why the one thing in obamacare that gives me the greatest hope. is a little provision that bernie sanders helped get slipped in which says that after two thousand and sixteen starting in two thousand and seventeen any state that decides they want to try something other than obamacare as long as they insure everybody in the state they can do however they want whenever they want to however they want to do it and vermont has already passed the law through their house through the senate and signed by governor peter shumlin that says that vermont is going to be the first state in the union with single payer health care now the lobbyists are up in vermont throwing money around like there's no tomorrow trying to get republicans elected before twenty sixteen in the twenty fourteen election in two thousand and sixteen election so that they can take down that legislation so that vermont doesn't become like this catch one was to canada the first state with
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single payer health care and then it goes national they are it is a battle royale but keep your eye on it go to victor in los angeles. we really need it america each party portion of the platform status is wider still gets the american way through why they're so good for the general public because in america the two party system of sort of don't agree i mean the eight and i would love to be a debate any republican or democrat under polluter of america because as i see it they care nothing about to have a nice state but. i get your concern here cynicism or passion or both there and i don't disagree with it but let me slightly recalibrate what you just said it's not a democratic or republican party has sold us down the drain although both are filled with their you know their own relative bunch of crooks i think the republican party more so than the democratic but still it's there it is it's the
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supreme court sold the style of the supreme court the back in the in the early one nine hundred eighty s. relate one nine hundred seventy s. i forget which ruled in the buckley versus palaeo case that corporations that mean that money is in the first amendment that the first amendment protects money it does doesn't say money in the first. so speech but the supreme court ruled that it did and then in the one nine hundred eighty s. in the first national bank versus bloddy case the supreme court ruled that corporations are protected by the fourteenth amendment i thought a blinking fought the civil war in the fourteenth amendment was written during reconstruction to free the slaves i didn't realize it was written for the corporations but the supreme court has ruled that when they brought these two rulings together in citizens united in two thousand and twelve and now you've got the koch brothers funding most of american politics at least on the right and that's a big problem now for our first caller then i walter in ontario hey walter thanks for watching and. hi tom thanks for taking my call really enjoyed your tuesday show
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on the serac asked so see and related to that with regard to this airliner that went down a day after the airliner went down that was a large oil slick noticed off the east coast of malaysia. a day later they said no it's not the aircraft it's bunker or oil from ships flushing their tanks at sea this was a large enough oil slick to mimic an international airliner going down in the water we must look at controlled flushing and don't see even today those two pieces of metal in australia commander of the australian coast guard said don't get too excited it could be containers that if all the ships leave you to comment on it but really enjoy your focus on the feast and what you think we should be doing about looking into what we're dumping into the seas getting. going to leave that with you
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thanks for taking my call thanks for the call well said and let me add to that in fact one of the big problems that we're seeing with invasive species around the world are the consequence of multi continent nat'l ocean liners taking on ballast water in one place and then dumping it in another place and taking it on the ocean dumping. great lakes are taking in one part a river and dumping it elsewhere and moving species around the planet that shouldn't be there so i think that the answer to all of this is we need to more tightly regulate seagoing containers we need to be looking at what they're taking on board what they're discharging and one of the ways to find out is by measuring you know at the time that they pull out when they when they leave dock and at the time that they pull into the into dock and we have nothing closed internationally or even national nothing close to the regulatory mechanism in place that we need to do that bill in washington d.c. hey bill what's up. this is about your own neighborhood i live near
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you and southwest d.c. and it's an environmental problem it's not actor on the earth. they just broke ground yesterday for a giant project in a two and a half block area that according to a private study is going to increase traffic there for air pollution fourteen times . this was according to a private space it was done because our local government has been so corrupted that the department environment department of transportation the zoning commission and the city council in our mayor's office none of them will do a traffic study or department of environment study as to the impact if you look at parish they cut off the traffic going into parish because a very small village this is all during winter time china had fifty three cities declare a state of emergency and some of the chinese commentators on t.v. were saying the reason for this is
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a lack of city planning so i'd like to hear you comment about your own neighborhood here sure bill what you're talking in for people who don't know what bill's talking about thanks for the call bill there's a i believe three and a half billion dollars maybe it's two and billion dollar redevelopment that's going on the waterfront here in washington d.c. or at least the southwest waterfront where i live and in fact i live in a public marina it's going to be made a private marina and. in an area that has been is largely shut down i mean there's a whole long strip of old what used to be nightclubs that have been empty and decaying for for at least a decade are going to be torn out and they're going to replace them with apartment buildings and and movie theaters and retail stores and putting in park. i guess the good news bill walter excuse me is that the waterfront metro station is right there and so i mean that's always i get around the city we haven't
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owned a car in three years and i think that what you're doing and they're taking out water street altogether which is the street from the marina so i'm not i'm not familiar with the statistics that you're quoting but my guess is that this is probably going to be a good thing for the city. you might want to check in with andy flawless fact i probably should he's running for mayor and he's pretty knowledgeable guy about these things are junior in portland oregon a virgin you want to talk about the national debt yes i watched a program called what is the earth were on the history channel and they looked at gems minerals fossil fuel timber agricultural crops fresh water a few other basics that are part of the plan act and based on their estimation the u.s. has got to be worth over a quadrillion dollars which makes our seventeen trillion dollar federal debt the
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equivalent of a seventeen thousand dollars home equity loan on a million dollar house and yet the republicans whipped everyone into a panic about this debt and used it to win the argument in congress you have to find a pay for we can't afford it we can't subsidize people to not work we can't and it is ludicrous that we have let them own this terrain we need to re frame it they put the debt against the profit loss statement not against the liability statement they're doing bad accounting and they've convinced the chicken littles in their base that the sky is falling and we have to take this issue back to us our national debt it's not a hindrance to us doing any massive project we want your structure let me interject international me totally. and thank you for the call i totally agree with you they are looking at our p. and l. not our balance sheet they're not looking at the wealth of this nation which is
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tremendous and frankly if you want to debt crisis that we should worry about that actually does run a risk of crashing our economy it's private debt and private debt the united states has over fifty four trillion dollars and that's a substantial problem our student loan debt is a big piece of that i'll be talking about that in the doing tonight andrew in wayne's town new jersey andrew what's up. thank you very much for taking my call i appreciate it i have a question for you. try not to be long winded and. want to go back a ways. congressman. and he told the reporter. that he was over the balcony now the guy looks like an ape ok my question my question to you is simply this if congressmen and senators don't get things are they going to throw us over a balcony that's my question andrew thanks for the question parity are i mean is
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the simple fact of the matter we have one of the most corrupted congresses certainly in my lifetime history i think certainly in the history of the twentieth century there was an enormous pushback against this kind of corruption back in the late nineteenth century at the end of the robber baron era and now we're in a new robber baron era and the supreme court is aiding and abetting and that's why you need to go to move to amend org and sign up jim in lane kansas we have a minute left jim can you be quick. there's a bill before the right now that would allow this to form a company with. the right to take federal money for medicare and medicaid in children. and distribute it. the but the insurance commissioner if even for the warning about how to put this little out of him to take medicare money to do whatever they want to build
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a highway or whatever they think this can make take our federal money from medicare that we quarreled with. jim i don't i i frankly i don't know the answer that thanks for the call it's it's not something i'm familiar with but you have got my curiosity up all check into it so thanks so much for the call that's in for your take my take live thanks for all your calls if we didn't get to your call tonight tries back next week and keep the video questions coming in they always go first it's easy just grab your phone pointed at your face or set up your computer and record your cut question or comment then e-mail that little m p three file or the video file and before file whatever it is to us a your take my take at g. mail dot com. coming up what do cancer and reaganomics have in common a lot more than you may think tell you all about it in tonight's daily to.
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so sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes as the person better says it everything you know. i know you think you're wrong but you are going to earn your right since we're all just saying things that sure you know mother i mean you always wrong we were all told over and over and over again in elementary school and by a parents don't always tell the truth. but that can be a lot harder than it sounds and most of us tell the occasional white lie every now and then there's a line about how someone looks in their clothes or lied about why they didn't pick up their phone call we seem to think the little lies can't do much harm and movies like why are a liar certainly certainly don't help that kind of thinking. jury was climbing the ladder of success you want to. live in into the arms of another mason you know whatever. helmets in the mail i ran out of gas was moving away at the time the true
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victim is likely put yourself in his shoes probably you're walking from a tree and suddenly you. seem to be shouting. but what if i told you that a lion was the number one thing preventing you from achieving success. so if you think that a little white lie can hurt everything you know is wrong jamie knows your back a campbell founder and c.e.o. of posse and author of posse excuse me and author of the new york times article the surprisingly large cost of telling small lies rebecca walker. and thanks for joining us from from australia how did you first get interested in learning about how wine can affect success this is something i once thought about when i was giving you know. talking to my team you know often you tell the white lie of the year you don't say something that you know you should say admit it back and i can
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kind of feel the change in myself and i often wondered did that have some kind of impact and i was speaking one day one of my mixes who's a really sixteenth. guy. and i think well that we think the secret is sixty and i suspect him say something like i need to give out for something critical and he just a secret to sixty is. tell a lie and i was like wow that's that and never looked at truth and its relationship to it in that way before i knew that i'd tell him lots of bad but i never thought. it could be something that holds you back so the university mouse chooses to do a study about this what did it reveal. the oh i did a lot of research on this actually people lie a lot your bank said revealed that the sixty percent of people can't go through a ten minute conversation without telling a lie so everybody lies all the time i think my old lie an average of six times a day in females three times a day thirty. yeah that's that's that's
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a mark on our most of these lies exaggerations are the lies of coal mission are the lies of omission usually things that pertain to sell things that make you look you you want to look at others the next things they do not want race my life that's right now there are you know you began by talking about how you felt when you lawyer you feel diminished or you feel you felt uncomfortable that moral compass that internal moral compass is something that is just not even a vailable to a small subset of our population people that are referred to as sociopaths and there's been a lot of research indicating that sociopaths are actually overrepresented among the c.e.o. class and in the banking profession what do you think about the problem of people who actually don't don't even you know they may know that they're lined intellectually but they have no emotional sense of i'm. not sure i mean i think
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from my i have the moral compass i can speak on my the hop i know that when i tell a lie i mediately see that and it taking out reasons and so i cannot on the bike itself what i'm doing at that time anymore i know but it's managing the fallout of the lie and to that what i that's why i think it hold me back and hold most people back and mostly reduce how live over time atika what an incredible response and it's just because everyone can relate to it like everybody does tell lies all the time and says that it appears that you have that you don't have that that this and that that taking you out of the britain then you know maybe maybe just a minute maybe that's why they say yes but i think that if you don't have that you're not a sociopath and it does take you out of the prison and then i think it's got to be pretty transparent tell the truth that that when i was when i was a kid my dad always it was quite emphatic about a line and one of the points you made is the problem with line is you can never remember your lies and so. they catch up with you but on the other hand if my mom
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said do i look fat in this dress he would always say no regardless. isn't there a point where you know it's ok. now i don't know. i so after i met without my gift of peter i tried he said just try it for a month just trying never to tell a lie that anything even a while like to make someone feel a bit like trying to save that nice way of going around the don't say an outright lie to if you did look at that and it stuck a no so something like oh what a trance you know and i tried it and it was so powerful you know i didn't realize i didn't know that life not a big life lies every day and by completely stopping that this that it was really hard it a lot of guts to be completely honest and everything but since i started doing that it's. i've felt so much lately that's liberating rebecca your skype is disintegrating i'm sorry and we're all we're out of time but thanks so much for
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being with us rebecca campbell great to have you and. now everything you know about wine is right. our young people are drowning in a sea of debt and it all started with reaganomics and reaganomics is a lot like cancer most people don't know that they have cancer until it reaches the later fullblown cancer stages or metastasized stages when it becomes much harder to treat in the early stages though cancer before it's even cancer usually starts off as inflation few cells grow slowly initially but then happen the cells begin to rapidly multiply and the cancer begins to pick up steam as a picks up steam the cancer takes on more and more of the body's resources and
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starts stealing the body's energy and tissues pretty soon the cancer completely overwhelms the body and without treatment the person dies reaganomics has done the exact same thing to our economy and to the american middle class and right now we're on life support for proof of that just look at the student loan debt crisis in america right now on your screen you can see america's student loan debt calculator which is keeping a running total of student loan debt in our country it's approaching one point one six nine trillion dollars keep an eye on that throughout the daily take as you can see billionaire banks toure's and for profit schools are making a fortune off of america's young people the average debt for a twenty five year old american student has. isn't a staggering ninety one percent over the past decade and most of that is student loan debt over thirty eight million americans have outstanding student loan debt
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right now totaling over a trillion dollars student loan debt exceeds both credit card debt and car loan debt in america the average is over twenty three thousand dollars a person and according to a study by hamilton place strategies by two thousand and twenty three just a decade from now the average amount of debt that college students graduate with will equal what the median college graduate will earn every year that's insane that same study found that average student debt at graduation has skyrocketed by two hundred percent since one nine hundred ninety three. but it didn't always used to be like this believe it or not there was a time in america when the vast majority of college graduates didn't leave campus thousands of dollars in debt college used to be affordable for most americans fact in california already became governor it was totally free everywhere in the state and students could easily work their way through college anywhere else in the country to fully pay for it the number of baby boomers with college loan debt when
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they graduate it is virtually nothing compared to the number of students with debt today but then reaganomics started to kick in and everything changed price of college college tuition has risen more than one thousand one hundred percent over the last thirty five years back in one nine hundred eighty the average cost for your college was eighty seven hundred dollars and much of that was paid for by a wide variety of government supports and scholarships as of two thousand and ten the average cost of a year in college is over twenty one thousand dollars and most of that support has dried up and as college tuition costs and skyrocketed more and more american students have found themselves having to take out student loans to pay for their college education in fact since the one nine hundred ninety s. when reaganomics was really picking up steam cumulative student loan growth where the number of students taking out student loans is up over five hundred and eleven percent and a really hit the full blown cancer stage in the two thousand it's thanks to george w.
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bush who put reaganomics on steroids with even more tax cuts and even more cuts to education this is a problem that is almost uniquely american because the soaring costs of college and the growing mountains of student loan debt are not even an issue in most developed countries. in the two thousand and ten global higher education ranking by higher education strategy is it's the average total cost of a year of college in norway including education and living expenses was just over eight thousand dollars for the year living on eight thousand year same with both france and mexico and in germany and latvia the average total cost of a year of college was just over six thousand dollars here in the u.s. it's nearly twenty four thousand dollars college education in america used to be affordable reaganomics changed everything and it's now time for a college education to be affordable once again we need to get back to that and that starts with a national debt jubilee with the government paying off all outstanding student loan
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debt in america just over a trillion dollars our government could easily find savings in other areas to pay for it or just raise taxes it's less than we're paying for either of george w. bush's illegal wars and a clean slate would do wonders for our economy but more importantly let's get back to the ideals of jefferson and lincoln who both worked to make college educations free for anyone who is worthy of them jefferson start america's first totally free college university of virginia and lincoln started the land grant colleges by giving enough land to colleges all across the country that they could use the income from that land to give students free or nearly free tuition in a letter to james madison jefferson once wrote that above all things i hope the education of the common people will be attended to convince that there are good sense we may rely with the most security for the preservation of a due degree of liberty in fact jefferson was far more proud of starting the university of virginia which he's been vision is a free public university and he was of being president of the united states and he
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wanted his tombstone which he himself designed before he died to reflect that in a very real way thomas jefferson was the father of free public education in the united states and while we're at it let's ban for profit schools. from getting any kind of government aid whatsoever that's the type of government welfare that our society really can't afford and today it reaches into the billions of dollars every year the only way that the education of the common people can be attended to as jefferson said is by wiping out the mountains of student loan debt the thirty plus years of this cancerous reaganomics has created and once again make college affordable sime to get smart about getting a good education in america and in the process kill off a large part of the cancer that is reaganomics and that's the way it is tonight thursday march twentieth twenty fourteen and don't forget democracy begins with you get out there get active tag.
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it's because one whole attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. at our team news we have a different price for the low because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not. a. huge asset to the jokes well handled in the sense that i got. this immediately though so we leave that maybe. i will see motion security for your party there's a bill. for shoes that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all on politics only on our t.v.
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