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we post only what really matters. to your facebook you state. their rage and anger is the court condemn as more than five hundred defendants to death in the biggest mass capital punishment in egypt's modern history also this week. they said time must be seen as an opportunity for us turkey red faced over a leak conversation between top officials suggesting they're planning a fake attack inside syria to give them a reason to intervene. bayview of ukraine's hardline right sector group finally catching the attention of brussels with us foreign policy chief denouncing the radicals after months of playing them down plus . we ended the war. and left iraq to its people a million iraqis died according to the united nations five million were made into refugees the country was ripped apart president barack obama the defense of the
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iraq invasion in comparison to russia's action in crimea lead to criticism a closer look at some of us are at the u.s. president's speech in brussels and some of its inconsistency. ten pm in moscow i met treasure bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news this week in egypt a single court decision contend more than five hundred people to death the said ins punishment for burning a police station killing one officer and disrupting public order the unprecedented verdict triggered mass protests and an outcry from human rights groups around the world and at the united nations a number of death sentences recently handed down in egypt is now top that of hosni mubarak during the final years of his rule the former egyptian president arrested during the revolution of two thousand and eleven in the three years. since neither
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the military nor the following president mohamed morsi ordered as many executions until now as the army steps up efforts to end an arrest in the wake of morsi being removed from power last summer when he was overthrown new authorities started to started targeting the ousted leaders muslim brotherhood party after being met with resistance the military escalated the crackdown and more than six hundred lives lost during raids on august fourteenth alone the next month the brotherhood was bad as a group and public protests severely curtailed the group declared a terrorist organization and a constitutional referendum held across egypt which brings us to this wednesday when that same general sisi ordered mohamed morsi declared that he would run for president which he's expected to win egypt one of the first countries to be engulfed by the arab spring but now appears to be back where it was before the uprising artie's out of stocks which are going to take a look. uprisings abroad getting equated with the promise of
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a better future and hailed as true democracy the democratic message that swept across the middle east the so-called arab spring so determination through coups and regime change often hailed by washington as an honest way to move forward for the united states supporting democratic transitions it's not a matter of idealism it is a strategic necessity redefining the word democracy to democracy is a government that we like that she points out how it was used and if it doesn't well let us not an artist and you can overthrow it in egypt swept by revolution and coup almost five hundred thirty supporters of the ousted morsi regime get sentenced to death as the military takes over the staggering numbers reminiscent of medieval times the only alternative it would seem to despotism is a form of an islamic democracy and the people are paying with their lives and with
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their security and you know that to go to the rights of a spec to a few would argue that the voice of the people is essential to a legitimate democratic process but the same applies to an officially elected government whose are arguably becoming increasingly accepted as a way to quickly impose change may bring about a swift era of reform in the short term without building a stable government system that can create a strong and truly democratic future which can eventually backfire on r.t.e. washington d.c. . number of people killed in fighting a spark by turkey's municipal elections is rising local reports suggest nine are now dead and dozens wounded after clashes between supporters and opponents of the ruling party the turkish government busy with damage control after an embarrassing leak suggested its been planning a so-called false flag attack that would justify military intervention in syria and investigation launched into the leak tape recording to be of top officials discussing a possible justification for invasion angered by the exposure of prime minister
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erdogan has ordered you tube shut down the site where the leak was shared with senate. you know you've got to try ministers that in current conjuncture and they sometimes must be seen as an opportunity for us. i'll send four men from city and it's what it takes i'll make up a cause for war by ordering a missile attack on turkey officials talking about a possible attack at the tomb of psyllium on a turkish monument in northern syria permanently guarded by turkish troops has previously threatened to retaliate against any assault on the site and he conflict involving turkey could lead to a full blown intervention in syria involving nato and your activist eugene puryear things many western governments might welcome this. if it back there was a faction of forces that were looking for your provocation it would also wind up with the wishes of the united states and also in europe who are increasingly more like and who would like to see more of a of the western and nato intervention inside of syria and we know that these
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warmongering forces have been continually agitating all across the united states and in europe and certainly there are forces in turkey that feel the same way syria calling for a u.n. probe into turkey's alleged plans for a false flag attack consistently tried to rally nato against syria looking for causes for a possible intervention artie's a very important as been keeping track of the attempts turkey as one of serious fiercest critics has led calls for an international intervention not only that it's persistently providing the reasons for. turkey claims syrian forces fired across the border at refugees and floats the idea of calling on nato for reinforcement and protect. turkey admits one of its f. four military jets was shot down by damascus after flying over syria's airspace and kora deems it an act of war reserving the right to respond and after calling an
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emergency nato meeting turkey reminds the alliance of its responsibility to protect member states. turkey said a growing threat from syria requesting that nato to safeguard the country expand its deployment of patriot missile batteries along the border with syria and what could lead to nato action article five of the alliances charter says an attack on any member shall be considered an attack on all well it's a conservative policy on the part of the north atlantic treaty organization nato which turkey is a part of has been a part of the us since the early one nine hundred fifty s. it appears that was the strategy was to provoke an attack from syrian territory on to turkey therefore providing a rationale to draw in the support of the united states and perhaps israel as well as britain and other states that are part of the nato alliance certainly nato members share turkey's sentiments about the syrian government both openly support
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the rebels in their fight against damascus and as for how far turkey will go a new leak on you tube seems to offer some insight on that it's a great peek into the way governments operate and how they join up wars that they would like to have happen and blame them on somebody else a lot of these insurgents were trained in american military bases and air force bases in turkey then put into syria syria. also has gotten all shipments of weapons i should say the insurgents have gotten shipments of weapons from turkey so far nato has not gotten involved but with turkey's grabbing every opportunity to say why it should strike syria there's no telling how long that will last marina port ny r.t. . still ahead this hour the pain in spain madrid rocked by more anti-government protests with public accusing the government of making people pay off the state's debt with their health and education. but first moscow and washington are having
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another go at resolving the deadlock over ukraine russia's foreign minister and the u.s. secretary of state meeting in power. for emergency talks after john kerry changed course while flying home to attend the meeting follows a phone call between russian and american leaders friday night president putin called president obama to discuss a possible diplomatic solution moscow kinda pushed for the idea of making an international group that would include washington moscow and brussels and work to resolve the standoff by the diplomatic situation is tense with reports in the media suggesting the u.s. is skeptical about russia's proposals. confectionery magnate a former convert to end the villain of star wars the rundown of the ukrainian presidential candidates something of a mixed bag artie's arena go take a look the race is on and the lineup for the top job is a curious one every candidate carries the promise of a very different future for ukraine and each has a pretty dubious record. so
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here's you need to machine code appealing to the audience on my donkey fresh out of prison where she served two and a half years for embezzlement. my dearest i dreamed of seeing your i i dreamed of feeling this strength you show. she has been the queen of ukrainian politics since the early two thousand and claims to have what it takes to lead the nation and fight injustice but it leaked phone conversation cast doubt over what justice is in the opinion of mrs tymoshenko what or who is going to go for. performers who can only do the security was a good year as your sources have received almost equal to reporters as he did thirty one green and users who are bringing mcchrystal because of them a lot. and
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then there's me two dollars the leader of the last list right sector party the main fighting force in a bloody coup back in february these guys have little appetite for e.u. integration and have introduced a whole new standard in power politics. last but certainly not least is darth vader yet you heard that right the dark sith lord has won primaries on the ballot are you crazy internet party and promises to turn the country into an empire restoring its old glory the dark lord is impersonated by the deputy head of the internet party and is especially popular with a younger audience although the electoral commission has not confirmed his candidacy so it may never be known whether you tube can be turned into real votes well these are just some of the options for the ukrainian people and a good look at any of them suggests there is no easy choice in deciding who can get
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the country out of crisis in a ghost go r.t. . meanwhile more than a thousand pro russian activists rallied in the eastern ukrainian city of donetsk demanding their region be given the right to self-determination protesters tried to enter a local government building but were confronted by security forces this week the ukrainian parliament siege for two days by radical far right protesters. thursday night nearly two thousand all trash unless they tried to storm the parliament demanding the recently appointed interior minister be removed from his post protesters angry over the killing of one of their leaders alexander music go he was shot dead in the west of the country tuesday claims he was killed while resisting arrest but some sources insist it was a targeted assassination conducted by ukraine's security services the rise of neo nazis and radicals within ukraine's current government is deeply alarming according to gregor guy you see from the german left party yes complicity pushes the
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real fascists in the ukrainian government they are currently leading positions they hold such top positions as the vice prime minister the defense minister the minister of agriculture and the environment minister as well as the head of the security committee of course there are democratic forces in the government have never given up the power they have gotten hold of i don't understand how europe can sign any agreements with them its approval cation. europe could be changing its tune toward the right sector with foreign policy chief catherine ashton denouncing the radical group she could then the group's violence and attempts to pressure the government for more on this i'm joined by a legal expert alexander mackerras who's been following the conflict in ukraine thanks for joining us again here on our t.v. so when the far right radicals in the my done those of them who were there were torching some buildings and throwing molotov cocktails there wasn't much outcry from the e.u. now we have it why do you think the change in stance. well because the government
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has changed when it was mostly young and covert she was in power the european union didn't like him and so it supported the protests and in fact denied at that time that there was any real violence on the part of the protest as a tool it alleged that all the violence came from the police and from the security forces which i think people who were observing what was happening found incredible now when the government is a pro european government these forces have suddenly become a matter of concern for their violence up to now is only far less of scale than it was before the government changed now the foreign minister of russia. said that he has information that it was the right sector coordinating snipers on the my down in kiev do you expect to react the west in any way to this report do you think they'll follow this up i think they will be very reluctant to follow this up the excepted
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narrative amongst western governments is that it was in fact the former government that was responsible and i think for them to actually now admit that it was people who were involved in the mine done protests who did this and that it was in fact a provocation would be extremely difficult and would require a far greater retraction then the western governments are prepared to make how much influence do you think though the suborder party and the right sector elements that are in the current government how much influence do you think they really have or the government as a whole. i think the government is a very divided body there's people from the so-called fatherland party which is a more mainstream party who hold many of the important positions mr to cino of the acting president mr yet send you the prime minister belong to that party as does mrs to mrs dimmock schenker who is its leader but there are very powerful elements
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that belong to these more right wing fascistic groups there's mr povey who is in charge of the national security council there's mr yarrow who is the head of the right sector who also has an official role and then there are various others include including the process the prosecutor the chief prosecutor so i think it is a divided government but the influence of these groups and of these people is much more than marginal which is what some people in the west are trying to employ and finally we've had this week the death of noted right sector activist alexander music the right sector seems to think that this was an assassination do you have any insight that you could bring to bear on this what do you think. i know about this is what the media the international media has been saying what i would say
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about this in mind is this mr was each girl was a terrible man in my opinion i mean he's done some awful things he was in chechnya he's extremely violent anybody who's followed his career would know what a violent man he was the fact is he was killed in the circumstances that are extremely worrying when a government resorts to this sort of use of force to eliminate people however unpleasant then one is frankly extremely concerned i mean he wasn't arrested he wasn't charged he wasn't put on trial for anything and there doesn't seem to be on the part of the government any real wish to investigate properly what happened in fact as we are seeing that death is becoming an issue within ukraine in politics and we've seen the people who hold power in the ukraine between the official government and the more right wing groups like right
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sector that we've been talking about how right are going to be curious that you're going to. thank you ukraine's interior ministry suspects the right sector of looting paintings worth about a million dollars and earlier the group and made it to driving stolen cars on their facebook page they more or less confirm that during this time revolution they can't afford to buy automobiles but their leader dimitri needed to be protected a luxury board proof chevrolet s.u.v. taken from a former president's motorcade they said it was just a thing after a short break president obama's own view of developments in ukraine and the stir it's caused in the online community stay with us. diplomacy lead to breakthroughs in syria and iran but it also strained relations between the u.s. and saudi arabia what does the future hold for washington. a
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pleasure to have you with us.
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president barack obama insisted moscow's reunification with crimea is worse than the u.s. invasion of iraq he also denied the u.s. or europe influence the recent ukrainian describing it as a triumph of democracy art he's got a. in president obama's view while protesters at my don did have a right to overthrow a democratically elected leader each of us has the right to live as we choose the people of crimea did not have the right to vote on their future together we've condemned russia's invasion of ukraine and rejected the legitimacy of the crimean referendum according to president obama the u.s. was a mere observer to the revolution in kiev make no mistake neither the united states nor europe has any interest in controlling ukraine one wonders if u.s.
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officials got the same message when they descended on the streets of kiev to cheer on the revolution and when members of the obama administration were deciding in private who should be in the ukrainian government and who should not i don't think leetch should go into the government i don't think it's necessary i don't think it's a good idea in terms of they're not going into the government just let him sort of stay out in doofus judical hallmark and stuff president obama suggested with the us did to iraq was not as bad as quine needed joining russia we did not claim or enix iraq's territory we did not grab its resources for our own name instead we ended our war. and left iraq to its people and they fully sovereign iraqi state. that can make decisions about its own future a million iraqis died according to the united nations five million were made into refugees a country was ripped apart five thousand americans died tens of thousands had life changing injuries can you compare that what happened in iraq to what happened in
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crimea in the last two weeks president obama has failed to mention that the us left in iraq which was becoming a safe haven for al qaida al qaida that was not there before the u.s. invasion the president then brought up costs of zero and why it could not in his opinion serve as a precedent for crimea they don't only intervened after the people of kosovo were systematically brutalized and killed for years but he did not specify how the u.s. intervened it bypassed the un security council and bombed the former yugoslavia for two and a half months killing almost five hundred civilians serbia's capital belgrade still bears the scars of that intervention we are confronted with the belief among some that bigger nations can bully smaller ones to get their way. that recycled maxim that might somehow makes right we the american people each time we have a new generation sent to fight another war there's no country that has
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a similar record of militarism intervention so for the united states as well now big countries can't bully small countries that belies their own record and certainly the record of the other nato powers speech president obama has glossed over some of the most controversial pages in u.s. foreign policy and by doing that he seems to have further highlighted the double standards in how the us is holding international law and norms in washington i'm going to check on. online for you the country who spy agency can infiltrate any computer worldwide as a leaky. cyber defenses of its own and places on our t. dot com find out what plans. six thousand cyber professionals to use the pentagon's cyber security also. one of the suspected boston marathon bombers currently approached by the f.b.i. shortly before the tragedy with some suggestions find out what they were online.
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spain's capital and by a fresh round of protests against spending cuts and unemployment this week a journalist from artie's video agency ruptly covering the arrest attacked by riot police in madrid take a look. i. think. he was filming the so-called march of dignity when the conquering officers pushed into the ground and view him and staring demonstrators of all ages which is the government of making and paid off the state's debt with their own health and education. has more from the. marches and seduce peace and not so peaceful it was a. spin which kicked off with a march of dignity in madrid. the wealth isn't distributed equally banks have been rescued while we've the working class have to pay. scores again to go to the streets to demonstrate against unemployment public debt and cuts more cuts despite
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violence and arrests during a similar rally last weekend. he will be able to talk about any sort of improvement only after we see move jobs created funding inventive prizes and small business right now we're still far from even talking about coming out of the crisis. but if one employment in spain officially stands at twenty six percent the youth jobless rate is over twice that number of poor work conditions the rise of university fees and overcrowded classrooms we cannot take it anymore. student anger filled the streets in the second half of the week at one point fifty activists were arrested while demanding the resignation of the education minister after occupying the dean's office at a madrid university. starting from now on all the way to next year we should expect all groups of society to come much more active the spanish government's policies
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are crucial to workers pensioners students and everyone dependent on the state. finally the week wrapped up with more anti government demonstrations this time in barcelona. obviously protests are something new for spain what we're seeing now is that more people from different parts of the spanish society are taking to the streets from the unemployed to those with a job from pensioners to students many were hoping that last year's promises from the government that the economy would improve would come true but so far it seems they remain just that promises to skin off r t reporting from madrid and coming your way after this short break worlds apart with oksana boyko stay with us.
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in an unofficial unofficial referendum eighty nine percent of residents of venice and its surrounding area voted for independence from mother italy but bafflingly the majority of voters want the legendary city to remain part of both the e.u. and nato i don't want to be insulting these people but do they even understand what the word independence means so you don't want rome telling you what to do and take your tax money but if brussels doesn't the next just jim dandy also according to the b.b.c. there are one hundred u.s. military bases of one sort or another all over italy including around venice so you want independence but having four military bases all over new country is just fine although it is written on a lot of bumper stickers the expression freedom ain't free is very true for venice to become truly independent would come at a very high price dumping the euro saying goodbye to nato and dealing with being surrounded on all sides by the e.u. who might want to give you some sanctions or dies democratic bombing until you get back in line if you're not ready for real independence then don't wind yourselves
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just stay with italy but that's just my opinion. well come to that xan siberian. what are the places you never go to. fund. things you never do. experience you'll never again. be surprised.
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hello and welcome to worlds apart president obama spoke a lot about big good and bad ways of doing geopolitics this week and rhetoric intended for european and possibly russian eras that was all but brushed aside when he landed in saudi arabia how is it that american values seem to depreciate every time the saudis are involved well to discuss that i'm now joined by david weinberg a senior fellow at the foundation for defense of democracies dr weinberg thank you very much for taking time to talk to us thank you for having me now the organisation you work for after nine eleven to quote promote pluralism defend
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democratic values and five the ideologies that drive terrorism is there any country that is more antithetic to all those objectives than saudi arabia sure syria iran lots of countries but certainly there's a big gap between the values of the united states and the values of the saudis it's a relationship that's been strained by the conflicting values of the two sides but my question was whether saudi arabia really takes the cake for essentially lacking all the three elements that mentioned in the purposes of the organization that you work for again there is not much in the way of pluralism they don't value do. see at all and when it comes to ideology a spouse by saudi arabia not only. condones terrorism it actually is supportive yeah i mean look dictatorship is not a contest but if it were the saudis would be doing great the organisation has
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actually been quite active on this issue for instance this week we put out a report highlighting the hate that's continually still being taught in saudi arabia's public schools through their textbook systems so we we certainly are no friends of the saudis on this issue and we certainly hope that the president had some very serious conversations about human rights behind closed doors. well he was in saudi arabia well this is a very madre of putting it but you know saudi arabia is not officially designated as a state sponsor of terrorism and yet it is well known that it is the largest source of financing when it comes to militant jihadi groups such as the taliban or al qaida and i hardly need to mention that if it is the americans who suffered a great deal from the terror plots hatched and sometimes executed with the help of saudi money fifteen out of the nine thousand nine eleven hijackers were saudi nationals and when you think about it had they been russians i think we could have
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had an outbreak of world war three by now but with the saudis again it's always let's be patient with them and it's maybe a personal question but for a country like russia which often finds itself on the receiving end of years condemnation without hurting you single american it's very difficult to understand why would an american. lad the saudis all of the hoops so easily given how many americans were hurt in nine eleven absolutely well you know i think it's reflected first of all public opinion numbers. is. absolutely dreadful numbers when you ask the american public. what they think of the other country but when you say saudi money going to sponsor terrorism i'm curious whether you mean state money going to sponsor terrorism or whether you mean private money going to sponsor i raise which do you mean well dr one guy and i mean both because obviously there are
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some private sponsors of terror groups in syria and iraq and lebanon they used to sponsor insurgency and as well but. official government structures in saudi arabia are not the most transparent so you can never be sure that official money is not being here is for the same purpose but is that evidence of official money i don't think so while i think prince bandar of one is quiet and involved in sponsoring various rebel groups and a syrian i guess we can argue about the definition of terrorism and freedom fighting but i think it is pretty clear that saudi arabia is supporting groups that use terror as a tactic in syria so that's would be a sort of evidence were i mean i think some of saudi arabia's identified clients in syria are extremely unappealing for instance the extremist group most most convincingly tied to saudi governmental assistance is called jaish al islam or
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the army of islam which is led by a man in honolulu shoes father is a preacher in saudi arabia and who advocates ethnic cleansing of shiites and opposes democracy and you know this is an organization that by and large is repulsive and antithetical to to western values and it's an organization that the u.s. has been to my understanding pushing the saudis behind the scenes to reduce their support for you just mentioned how little support there rees for the saudis and their tactics among them merican public and the american politicians regard. most of that party affiliation seem to be sort of while coming out or at least tight lipped when it comes to criticism of the saudi officials why this thing that is well i think we need to differentiate between the executive branch and the legislative branch on this issue because i think the legislative branch has been
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quite comfortable raising concerns about saudi policies that conflict with universal human rights and democratic values so for instance members of congress from both parties in the last week and a half have issued letters to the president calling on him to. to make human rights part of the discussion and to make religious freedom part of the discussion when he went to saudi arabia so i do think that american politicians of both stripes be it democratic or republican are not reluctant to speak out about this issue but i do think that when when either party is in power at the white house they certainly have incentives to try and elicit regional cooperation from the saudis and unfortunately sometimes that means human rights reform issues get kicked a little bit lower on the priority list just as that sometimes is the case in u.s.
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relations with russia american officials would actually like to be raising these issues even more often than they do with russia because of russia's important role as the geo political power don't even raise it as much as they actually would as surprising is that there are some white members that well i wonder how much more often those issues could be raised because i think you know human rights in russia is the last one of the most popular issues for american politicians rather of executive or legislative branch but going back to saudi arabia. president obama has just visited riyadh what do you think he was hoping to achieve there well i think the the messaging. coming out of the white house really focused on trying to dispel the image that there is a rift between saudi arabia and the united states so even as the president's plane was was pulling into saudi arabia is his deputy national security adviser was giving
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a briefing to the press corps news trying to emphasize that things have gotten better in the saudi u.s. relationship since the fall when when the saudis were upset so not denying that the saudis have been upset at the united states but trying to argue that the dispute over iran over syria over other issues has been resolved or at least significantly reduced as to whether that narrative is is going to be seen as persuasive either by the media or by the general public we still have yet to see now the biggest strain . many analysts have identified in these bilateral relationship is america's reluctance to fully back the saudis in their existence five against the shia forces of iran syria lebanon and possibly iraq and these five that saudis are in is not driven by money it is not driven by political calculations it is driven by january and values you know however archaic and you think that their day may be
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and i wonder given the existential nature of these five whether americans can really reason with the saudis at this point or is it increasingly a case of the tail wagging the dog here well i certainly would agree with you with regard to your argument that this is an area where the u.s. really has some difficulties that is funding the saudis fully you know the saudi public sees what's going on in syria as the greatest humanitarian calamity of our age and that's not my words that's the saudi foreign minister's words and so what they see are whom they have already do. humanized in their education and religious system as heretics slaughtering sunnis in in saudi arabia slaughtering sunni civilians as well as as rebels and so in that regard the saudis want the united states to decapitate the regime in syria at the very least by toppling it
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and so the saudis are not going to be satisfied when they see the united states pursuing an approach that actually in some regards on the battlefield is quite similar to russia strategy which is to have this conflict turn into a stalemate the russians want to enable. to not be toppled to outlast the conflict and the united states wants to ensure like russia purportedly a political solution to this conflict by ensuring that the rebels aren't fully marginalized on the battlefield but when it comes to actually toppling the regime militarily the u.s. administration has held back to some extent and you know we'll just have to see whether the saudis can convince them to take a tougher line on this it's certainly could happen especially if there's no progress at geneva since you mentioned russia's intentions in syria i think russia would much have preferred not having this conflict to begin with i think this
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conflict was initiated and aided by saudi arabia and the united states to begin with so it is those two countries that actually often for changing the status quo but rather than going in depth into syria i would like to ask you very quickly this relationship between the saudi arabia and the united states was founded on. quite explicit agreement that washington would defend the gulf state in exchange for oil contracts and the united states and no longer needs that much saudia or oil and the nature of security threats has also changed so i wonder if it's possible. sooner or later the united states and saudi arabia will have to part ways well first of all i'd like to address something that you said right before your question which is how this conflict started as americans see it the way this conflict started was a russian supported dictator bashar al assad slaughtered his people when they went
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out on the street and peaceably demonstrated as well as arresting and torturing teenagers so that is how we see how that's going well you see how as to whether the u.s. and the saudis way because you are told that this conflict started this way somebody who was on the ground in syria all those three years ago i can tell you that you know there were snipers there were provoke attorneys there were saudi agents there on the scene so obviously the tactics. are not to be defended you know his indiscriminate use of force but i wonder if the united states would react in any different way if. the constitutional law and order in your own country were threatened for once. if i can remind you of what of the of the search operation for the boston bombers if you remember you know a couple of years ago the whole city of boston was blocked to find two man and you know the police was used and he was shot dead so you know i think americans use
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force quite extensively and one their own security is compromised but they for some reason deny that's right to other countries but i would still like that question about whether you see any chance for the united states and saudi arabia parting ways geo politically given how different value systems really are well having lived in boston having actually lived on the same block as the boston bombers and having been a graduate student at mit in the past where police officer was slaughtered by the bombers no doubt americans take terrorism seriously as to whether the saudis and the united states are going to part ways the triumphalism of the shale energy boom to some extent is overwrought. because the united states just as russia just as other countries are in the in the global economy are dependent upon stability in the global price of oil and in that regard until industrialised countries such as the united states such as russia such as the countries of east and south asia have
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fuel choice about the fuels that they put into their automobiles we're going to be continually dependent upon the security in the gulf as dr weinberg we have to take a very short break now but when we come back the united states has rediscover the good old anime in russia what does this mean for the future of human saudi relations that's coming up in a few moments on worlds apart. paying for the products with this label. guarantees better deals for the third world produces. again this will produce our suppliers of the business and buy the workers on. the scene and advocates better working conditions and
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today i'm sure. i marinate join me. for in-depth impartial and financial reporting. very interview and much. only on bust and. welcome back to worlds apart a real discussing the love hate relationship between the united states and saudi arabia when they would weinberg a senior fellow at the foundation for defense of democracies that's a great way of putting it dr weinberg you just heard i turned it in in terms of
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love and hate and i'm not sure about the love but to see the examples of hatred all you need to do is to open the saudi school textbooks reach to earlier that for decades have been spreading the role of everything rest in and as you as you mentioned hero the very interesting report recently on how lenient the united states has been with the saudi arabia on this issue but i wonder what is the real reason for saudi procrastination in removing all those vitriolic passages from from their textbooks well first of all like to say that i don't think the united states has been uniquely. when it comes to raising saudi textbooks in fact i think it's actually done more than any other government in its bilateral exchanges with the saudi authorities on this issue for instance i saw no indication that this was part of the conversation when prince bandar and bought a mere putin met last year in moscow. so you know i think there are things other
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countries can do that having been said the united states has more leverage that it could potentially use with saudi arabia on this issue and in that regard i really do wish the united states would do more well dr weinberg the reason why president putin may not raise the this issue or other issues with foreign visitors is because russia doesn't make the promotion of democracy the pillar of its foreign policy is the united states that does. and if i may have missed a mistake in the state department first noted a problem with the saudi textbooks all the way back in two thousand and three and ever since the saudis have assumed this very typical approach for them of not saying no outright but not delivering either and my question to you is whether they see any practical game in essentially indoctrinating a youth in the speech only mindset whether they do it on purpose as as a part of state ideology well you know i think saudi arabia like like any country
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does have some internal debates even as an absolute monarchy but that having been said i do think that the saudi authorities very sponsibility for what's in these books especially because these books are printed on an annual basis by their ministry of education so they are to blame for what's published in their texts the saudi monarch and the saudi royal family and the government say that these books have been reformed that they're being improved but when they say that they only they take the lowest hanging fruit they take some of the hatred out of elementary school books they say that they spend money on teacher training to moderate teachers they say that they're increasing the number of women in the universities but the reason that they don't they don't take this on more seriously i think is because they see more benefit in not upsetting their conservative
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reactionary preachers then they see in telling their children a more tolerant view of the world and keeping their children from being indoctrinated so i do think that it really will take diplomatic consequences in saudi arabia's foreign relations with the international community for this to change now this violent extremism that children are being taught and some of the. how do you public schools is bad when it is targeted at you but when it targets some of your rivals it may come in handy and here i would like to shift gears a little bit and discuss the saudi years relations reserve the russia because there are quite a few historic examples when this partnership was very successful in undermining moscow i wonder whether these recent tensions the resoled between russia and the west and the united states in particular could lead president obama to evaluate or
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rethink his relationship with. saudi arabia well you know actually i think u.s. russian relations in the last month have been extra strained to the u.s. saudi relationship because the saudis wish that the united states had been firmer with russia over crimea just as they saw the united states choosing to pursue a negotiated deal with russia over syria's chemical weapons in the fall this was an area where u.s. russia. i'd like to say at least. averting away from a more direct conflict actually came at some cost to the united states and its relationship with the saudis similarly the united states helped turn the tide of the battle in afghanistan in the eighty's against the soviet union by introducing a large number of men portable air defense systems that the mujahedeen used against
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the russian the soviet air force the united states hasn't done much credit for the russians for something that they've done which is showing some restraint when it comes to manpads in syria today the saudis have been itching to introduce those in massive numbers unsupervised without any sort of permissive actual links without any sort of way for the us for instance to disable them if they fall into the hands of. but the united states has actually held relatively firm on to date and that's an area in which the us hasn't gotten much dr weinberg i think this is a very noble and teleportation of both in a recent events in history because if it wasn't for the united states and saudi arabia those weapons were in be in syria in the first place so i don't see how we could credit the united states for health restraining saudi arabia well enough
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going back to ukraine and there have been reports that washington has already reached out to saudi arabia to provide some of the fifteen billion dollars promised to your crane and while saudi arabia doesn't have any intrinsic interest in ukraine what is it is interested in is seeing washington to toughen up on syria and i want to infrequency any sort of you know ukraine for serious swap here essentially you know the saudi arabia giving their money for ukraine. but washington in return doing what riyadh wanted to do in syria you know actually the most persuasive. for tat of this sort that i've seen has been a recent story in the washington post suggesting that the united states is finally considering doubling its training of vetted syrian rebels in exchange for
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or rather to be funded by the qatari treasury so if there's going to be a tit for tat in this regard that's actually where i've seen some suggestion that it might happen now russia is a natural rival for the united states in ukraine and for saudi arabia in syria so much so that george soros has already suggested the two team up in driving the oil prices down and of course this move to be a very effective back in the eighty's when. these two countries colluded in driving the wild prices down and that proved to be the last nail in the coffin of the soviet union do you think that could work this time around no i don't think there is persuasive us so to collusion on the energy price that actually influences audi energy policy the saudis make their oil production decisions based on internal budgetary issues and they do this also by looking at the domestic
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situation in saudi arabia and making outlays to keep their public quiet and so that i think is actually going to be the biggest driver of saudi oil policy but you know they can be hypocritical about this too just as the united states can be hypocritical about where and when it supports democracy just as russia can be hypocritical about where and when it supports sovereignty i wonder if we could consider one more way of how the saudis and the americans could exact their band their revenge on russia and that's would be it by supporting terror groups they used to do that in chechnya as. i mentioned before they could probably do the same in crimea reach has a somewhat sizable muslim population could they well actually the muslim population in crimea is significantly smaller than it was before stone ethnically cleanse the place so actually i think that leverage is much smaller now well but. just for the benefit of our viewers far as i know i may be mistaken but back in the ninety
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ninety's and early two thousand crimea was a very popular destination for wounded chechen rebels first because of the geographic proximity to the kitchen and also because of somewhat block security policies of the ukrainian authorities i think it is estimated that moment there are around five thousand followers of the the branch of islam in crimea and i guess you wouldn't. even that many to start trouble well you know first of all it is important to distinguish between people's religious views intolerant or not and whether they're actually engaged in acts of violence certainly i do think when an intolerant. religion is promoted in places abroad including in. elements of the former soviet union there are consequences for that down the road absolutely well one of the natural consequences for moscow would be to deepen its
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ties with iran especially given the very politically correct reaction of the year all funny government to crimea joining russia but i wonder if that's will deepen the chanche is even more in these geopolitical rivalry it's absolutely possible but i do think it conflicts with what the rouhani government strategy is in iran which is a little bit different than what the supreme leader's strategy is in iran the supreme leader's strategy is is direct confrontation with the united states the rouhani government strategy is to maintain many of the long. republics policies but to try and achieve some sort of rapprochement with the international community you know they may not be ready to pay the cost of what that entails and they've given no indication that they're ready to stop the i.r.g.c. terrorist activities in places like the levant and in the gulf and that's actually what motivates the saudis to push hard when it comes to iran issues and something
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that the united states personally i think could be doing a little bit more on certainly russia could do more on it as well well dr weinberg unfortunately we have to leave it there i appreciate you being on the show and to our viewers yorks on to keep the conversation going on our twitter you tube and facebook pages and i hope to hear again the same place same time here on worlds apart. martin. sees and i see it maybe in the country is the federal government to simply say. the united states suffered damage when it was going public has to realize it can't just buy. just throw it away. for instance
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to find out more visit are a big. shock and anger worldwide is the court condemns more than five hundred defendants to death in the biggest mass capital punishment in egypt's modern history also this week. they said time must be seen as an opportunity for us turkey red faced overleap conversation between top security officials suggesting they're planning a false attack inside syria to give them a reason to intervene. the behavior of ukraine's a hardline a right sector group finally catching brussels attention with the e.u. foreign policy chief denouncing the radicals after months of downplaying them plus . we ended the war. and left iraq to its people a million iraqis died according to the united nations five million were made into refugees the country was ripped apart president obama's defense of the iraq
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invasion in comparison to russian actions in crimea lead to some criticism we take a closer look at the us president's speech in brussels and some of its inconsistency. eleven pm in moscow i mattress i bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news in egypt this week a single court decision condemning. than five hundred people to death the sense punishment for burning a police station killing one police officer and disrupting public order precedented a verdict triggering mass protests and an outcry from human rights groups around the world and that the united nations the number of death sentences recently passed down in egypt has now topped that of hosni mubarak during his last years of rule the former egyptian president arrested during the revolution of two thousand and eleven in the three years since neither the military nor the next president
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mohammed morsi ordered as many executions until now as the army steps up efforts to end on arrest in the wake of morsi being removed from power last summer when he was overthrown the new authorities started targeting the ousted leaders muslim brotherhood party after being met with fierce resistance the military escalated the crackdown with more than six hundred lives lost during raids on august fourteenth alone the next month the muslim brotherhood was banned as a group and public protests curtailed the organization was declared a terror organization and a constitutional referendum was held this all brings us to this wednesday when the same general that ousted mohamed morsi declared that he would run for president and he's expected to win handily egypt one of the first countries to be engulfed by the arab spring now appears to be back where it was before the uprising and stuff he churkin to takes a look. uprisings abroad getting equated with the promise of a better future and hailed as true democracy the democratic message that swept
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across the middle east the show called arab spring so determination through coups and regime change often hailed by washington as an honest way to move forward for the united states supporting democratic transitions it's not a matter of idealism it is a strategic necessity redefining the word democracy to democracy is a government that we like that should courts our house and if it doesn't well let us not an artist and you can overthrow it in egypt swept by revolution and coup almost five hundred thirty supporters of the ousted morsi regime get sentenced to death as the military takes over the staggering numbers reminiscent of medieval times the only alternative it would seem to despotism is a form of an islamic democracy and the people are paying with their lives and with their security in other to go to the market their clients are respected if you
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would argue that the voice of the people is essential to a legitimate democratic process but the same applies to an officially elected government whose are arguably becoming increasingly accepted as a way to quickly impose change may bring about a swift era of reform in the short term without building a stable government system that can create a strong and truly democratic future which can eventually backfire on r.t.e. washington d.c. . reports say at least nine people were killed in turkey is municipal elections and didn't violence more than thirty others also reportedly injured after clashes between supporters and opponents of the ruling party incidents allegedly involving gunfire from both sides were whole families involved in the shooting turkish government busy with damage control after an embarrassing leak suggested. could be planning a so-called false flag attack that would justify military intervention in syria and investigation launched into the leak tape reporting to be a top official to scuffing a possible justification for invasion angry by the exposure prime minister heir to
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one order to you tube shut down across the country that was the site that leaked that shared the leak. you know we're going to try ministers that in current conjuncture and they said must be seen as an opportunity for us i'll send four men from city and that's what it takes i'll make up a cause for war by ordering a missile attack on turkey officials there talking about a possible attack on the tomb of sulaiman shah turkish monument in northern syria permanently guarded by turkish soldiers and has previously threatened to retaliate against any assault on the site any conflict involving turkey could lead to a full blown intervention in syria involving nato and who are activists jean purtier though thinks that many western governments might welcome that. if it back there was a faction of voices that were looking for you provocation it would also wind up with the wishes of the united states and also that of europe who are increasingly
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more like and would like to see more of a of the western and nato intervention inside of syria and we know that these warmongering forces have been continually agitating all across the united states and in europe and certainly there are forces in turkey that feel the same way syria calling for a u.s. u.n. probe into turkey's alleged plans for a so-called false flag attack consistently try to rally nato against syria looking for causes for a possible invasion artie's marina porton has been keeping track turkey as one of serious fiercest critics has led calls for an international intervention not only that it's persistently providing the reasons for. turkey claims syrian forces fired across the border at refugees and floats the idea of calling on nato for reinforcement and protection. turkey admits one of its f. four military jets was shot down by damascus after flying over syria's airspace and
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kora deems it an act of war reserving the right to respond and after calling an emergency nato meeting turkey reminds the alliance of its responsibility to protect member states. turkey cites a growing threat from syria requesting that nato to safeguard the country expand its deployment of patriot missile batteries along the border with syria and what could lead to nato action article five of the alliance's charter says an attack on any member shall be considered an attack on all well that's a concern of policy on the part of the north atlantic treaty organization nato which turkey is a part of has been a part of the us since the early one nine hundred fifty s. it appears that was the strategy was to provoke an attack of some syrian territory on to turkey therefore providing a rationale to draw in the support of the united states and perhaps israel as well as britain and other states that are part of the nato alliance certainly nato
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members share turkey's sentiments about the syrian government both openly support the rebels in their fight against damascus and as for how far turkey will go a new leak on you tube seems to offer some insight on that it's a great peek into the way governments operate and how they join up wars that they would like to have happen and blame them on somebody else a lot of these insurgents were trained in american military bases and air force bases in turkey then put into syria syria. also has gotten all shipments of weapons i should say the insurgents have gotten shipments of weapons from turkey so far nato has not gotten involved but with turkey's grabbing every opportunity to say why it should strike syria there's no telling how long that will last marina point ny r.t. just told it on this hour the pain in spain madrid all rocked by more anti-government protests with the public accusing the government of making people
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pay off the state's debt with their health and education. but first a confectionery magnate a former convict and the villain of star wars the rundown of ukrainian presidential candidates is a mixed bag. takes a look at some of the options. the race is on and the lineup for the top job is a curious one every candidate carries the promise of a very different future for ukraine and each has a pretty dubious record. here is you need to shank over appealing to the audience on my donkey fresh out of prison where served two and a half years for embezzlement. right here my dearest i dreamed of seeing your eyes i dreamed of feeling the strength you show. she has been the queen of ukrainian politics since the early two thousand and claims to have what it takes to
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lead the nation and fight injustice but a leaked phone conversation casts doubt over what justice is in the opinion of mrs tymoshenko miserable who is very well for her. performance who can only reason he already has a good your sources have us to normalcy for he says it already agreed i mean. really mcchrystal elected that i'm a lot older. and then there's me today honors the leader of the list right sector party the main fighting force in a bloody coup back in february these guys have little appetite for e.u. integration and have introduced a whole new standard in power politics. last but certainly not least is darth vader yet you heard that right the dark sith lord
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has won primaries on the ballot are you crazy internet party promises to turn the country into numb pirate restoring its old glory the dark lord is impersonated by the deputy head of the internet party and is especially popular with the younger audience although the electoral commission has not confirmed his candidacy so it may never be known whether you tube can be turned into real votes well these are just some of the options for the green people and a good look at any of them suggests there is no easy choice in deciding who can get the country out of crisis it may go school r.t. . as we think of cranium parliament was besieged for two days by far right protesters. thursday night nearly two thousand all trash will is trying to storm the parliament demanding the recently appointed interior minister stepped down protesters angry over the killing of one of their leaders alexander music go he was shot dead in the west of the country tuesday he have claims he was killed while resisting arrest or some insist it was
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a targeted assassination by security services the rise of neo nazis enter radicals within ukraine's current government is alarming according to gregory geesey from the german left party. yes. the real fascists in the ukrainian government they are currently in leading positions they hold such top positions as the vice prime minister the defense minister the minister of agriculture and the environment minister as well as the head of the security committee of course there are democratic forces in the government have never given up the power they have gotten hold of i don't understand how europe can sign any agreements with them it's a provocation and europe is changing its tune toward the right sector with foreign policy chief catherine ashton denouncing the group she condemned the group's violence and attempts to pressure the government legal expert alexander mark harris who's following the conflict in ukraine thinks far right groups enjoy a much bigger influence than the west would admit. there are very powerful elements
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that belong to the right wing fascistic groups there's mr povey who is in charge of the national security council there's misty yarrow who is the head of the right sector who also has an official role and then there are various of those include including the prophecy the prosecutor the chief prosecutor so i think it is a divided government but the influence of these groups into these people is much more. which is what some people in the west are trying to employ ukraine's interior ministry suspects the right sector of looting paintings worth about a million dollars earlier the group admitted to driving stolen cars on their facebook page they have more or less confirm that during this time of revolution they can't afford to buy new autos but their leader dimitri irish needed to be protected and a luxury bullet proof chevrolet taken from the former president's motorcade they said was just the face. we're waiting for the outcome
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of the meeting between john kerry and sergey lavrov on the ukrainian crisis we're going to take a look soon as some live video from paris after this break you can see the room where the microphones are waiting for one or both of them to step out and give some comments after the break so we'll take a look at president obama's own view of the developments in ukraine and the stir it's caused in the online community stay with us. paying for the projects with this label. guarantees better deals for the third
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world produces. again this one friend you serious part of the business but the workers done it and they might see it and advocates better working conditions and high social standards we get five euros a day. and it's not enough to satisfy us. yes all of the pool are at their wits a. rose a week when i asked the boss cribbage more he refuses my salary is only enough for my food and money for my family in haiti. fair trade behind the scenes almost see. sixty minutes past the hour now this week barack obama insisted moscow's unification with crimea was worse than the us invasion of iraq he also denied the
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us or europe influence the recent ukrainian coup describing it as a triumph of democracy or he's got a tricky and takes a look. in president obama's view while protesters at my don did have a right to overthrow a democratically elected leader each of us has the right to live as we choose the people of crimea did not have the right to vote on their future together we've condemned russia's invasion of ukraine and rejected the legitimacy of the crimean referendum according to president obama the u.s. was a mere observer to the revolution in kiev make no mistake neither the united states nor europe has any interest in controlling ukraine one wonders if u.s. officials got the same message when they descended on the streets of kiev to cheer on the revolution and when members of the obama administration were deciding in private who should be in the ukrainian government and who should not i don't think leetch should go into the government i don't think it's necessary i don't think
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it's a good idea in terms of they're not going into the government just let him sort of stay out in doofus trickle hallmark and stuff president obama suggested with the us did to iraq was not as bad as quine year joining russia we did not claim or enix iraq's territory we did not grab its resources for our own name instead we ended our war. and left iraq to its people and they fully sovereign iraqi state. that can make decisions about its own future a million iraqis died according to the united nations five million were made into refugees a country was ripped apart five thousand americans died tens of thousands had life changing injuries can you compare that what happened in iraq to what happened in crimea in the last two weeks president obama has failed to mention that the us left in iraq which was becoming a safe haven for al qaida al qaida that was not there before the u.s.
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invasion the president then brought up costs of zero and why it could not in his opinion serve as a precedent for crimea they don't only intervene after the people of kosovo were systematically brutalized and killed for years but he did not specify how the u.s. intervened it bypassed the un security council and bombed the former yugoslavia for two and a half months killing almost five hundred civilians serbia's capital belgrade still bears the scars of that intervention we are confronted with the belief among some that bigger nations can bully smaller ones to get their way. that recycled maxim that might somehow makes right we have the american people each time we have a new generation it's sent to fight another war there's no country that has a similar record of militarism intervention so for the united states is say well no big countries can't believe small countries that be allies their own record and certainly the record of the other nato powers in his speech president obama has
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glossed over some of the most controversial pages in u.s. foreign policy and by doing that he seems to have further highlighted the double standards in how the us is now holding international law and norms in washington i'm going to check on. a click away for you online the country who spy agency can infiltrate any computer worldwide as leaking cyber defenses of its own but on our dot com to find out what plans. for an additional six thousand security professionals are to boost the pentagon's online security. also one of the suspected boston marathon bombers were approached by the f.b.i. shortly before the tragedy with some suggestions find out what they were on line. the spanish capital engulfed by a fresh round of protests against spending cuts and unemployment this week a journalist from artie's a video agency ruptly covering the unrest was attacked by riot police in madrid take a look. i'm thinking that. he
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was filming a so-called march of dignity when baton wielding officers pushing to the ground and beat him. protesters of all ages accuse the government of forcing them to pay off the state's debt at the cost for their own health and education or he's ever has been over for. marches and sit ins peaceful and not peaceful it was a busy week of protests in spain which kicked off with a march of dignity in madrid. the wealth isn't distributed equally banks have been rescued while we the working cannot have to pay. scores again took to the streets to demonstrate against unemployment public debt and cuts more cuts despite violence and arrests during a similar rally last weekend. he will be able to talk about any sort of improvement only after we see more jobs created funding in new enterprises
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and small business right now we're still far from even talking about coming out of the crisis. but if one employment in spain officially stands at twenty six percent the youth jobless rate is over twice that number of poor work conditions the rise of university fees and overcrowded classrooms we cannot take it anymore. student anger filled the streets in the second half of the week at one point fifty activists were arrested while demanding the resignation of the education minister after occupying the dean's office at madrid university. starting from now on all the way to next year we should expect all groups of society to become much more active this man is government's policies are crucial to workers pensioners students and everyone dependent on the state. finally the week wrapped up with more antigovernment demonstrations this time in barcelona. obviously protests are
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something new for spain what we're seeing now is that more people from different parts of the spanish society are taking to the streets from the unemployed to those with a job from pensioners to students many were hoping that last year's promises from the government that the economy would improve would come true but so far it seems they remain just that promises to go to spin off reporting from madrid staying in spain where a dream for catalonia is a dilemma for madrid spanish judges ruled tuesday that the plan to dependents referendum in catalonia set for next autumn is illegal but people in the country's wealthiest region have vowed to carry on with it but regardless an arc from the european partnership for independence thinks madrid can only win by not letting the ballot happen it's not that actually a situation that it's only have recognized by the citizenship but also in catalonia that he said an absolute majority in the cattle parliament of members that he would favor of these referendum the reason why the spanish state uses all of the make
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a nice to two or more democracies the practice of democracy is because they know that that is the stopping the referendum is the only way they have to stop problem think that the dance of cats had only europeans a session fever also reach sardinia the mediterranean island seeking a split from rome after an unofficial referendum in venice saw the majority of their vote for independence some campaigners even want the area to become part of switzerland and recurs so one of those leading the movement explained we don't trust the political and i mean assertive system anymore that is proved to be effective into solving the problems of the country we see beyond any reasonable doubt of course we're not blaming. the shows but the system itself. calls for independence getting stronger and louder across the european union when it was
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formally established in the ninety's many of the leaders a dream of a greater centralisation italy's prime minister at the time of the e.u. would become a single political and economic body a position echoed by the then german chancellor and standing up to the us also one of the arguments that they use now the dreams are overshadowed by the economic prospects and a lack of fiscal unity let's take a look at some of the hot beds of separatism that we're seeing across the bloc right now as we've said the italian regions of sardinia and venice venice region a yearning to break from rome and belgium the separatist movement in flanders along an issue the u.k. has its own issues with a scottish independence referendum looming this year and in spain the long running independence movements in catalonia and the basque country are steaming ahead let's hear from andrea caruso one more time about why he thinks the idea of a united europe may have lost the appeal for me everyone in europe was thrilled when the european union started it so clearly could be long into europe as a whole it was
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a very exciting historical moment that it be to achieve many of those feelings have changed for. something went wrong and there are deep discrepancies between countries that you don't do you make lots of people unhappy. is only said a strong suit was independence and we keep that it would express it so the final goal of the research reconstructing from scratch a new politico and destructive system. we know is developing that it's about time we don't do ourselves moscow and washington having another go or resolving the deadlock over ukraine secretary of state kerry meeting foreign minister lavrov in paris we're awaiting the outcome and bring you that press conference live here on r.t. in the meanwhile a closer look at the global fair trade industry stay with us after this short break .
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a group called the representation project is spreading the word with a viral you tube video that the most destructive thing you can say to young boys america's be a man why is everything is even mildly unpleasant a cardinal sin in modern america you want to know why we say be a man imagine a medieval village what if all the men just didn't want to work the land because it hurts their hands or wouldn't be willing to fight an invading army because they might get hurt themselves or some girl gets pregnant all the village guys would say well that's her problem the idea of being a man is part of her evolution without tough men that tribe or city state or whatever would die out many people would say that this is all in the past but as western civilization goes down the tank we see more and more forty year old boys with no wife no kids no ambition no guts no grit no discipline just trying to pretend to be a man playing online video games be
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a man is probably one of the best things that anyone ever said to me thanks dad i'm sorry representation project but you are dead wrong but that's just my opinion. well come to that xan siberian. what are the places you never go to. fun. things you never do. experience you'll never again. be surprised you will.
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not if syria. now a. part. in the dominican republic the macs have law label has another well kept secret. in order to be able to supply volumes of free trade bananas to large retailers in particular english retailers the organization has decided to grant its label to large landowners whereas originally its aim was to defend the small producers in the face of the large ones. jet of and the bag is one of these happy few this dutch expansion it owns two
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hundred fifteen hectares of banana plantations with the max have a label. oh hello can you call with me why davies' here are they filming unfortunately called our submission i spark and we go to. she's doing the rounds of a demand with a technical director he too is dutch or lao when it was created fair trade two was a very fine project. the ideas were a good but they've turned into something else. that no longer exists. the image people have had of fairtrade for so many years is like a dream really weird. in two thousand and twelve jetta vendor bag exported
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two point seven million crates of bananas sixty eight percent of them had a particularly high free trade price. our company made revenues in excess of twenty six million euros. in return max have the rocks had to be beyond reproach towards our four hundred fifteen employees. the man whose cutting is called simon excel us he's been working for the company for four years and the one carrying the bananas is called neva deo he's been here for four months or more how do you feel about your work. fine does it pay bro yes the six year is a day. see more lives in close proximity to the plantation. he's married and has two children. you know has his papers and adds
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a better salary but it remains insufficient to improve his living conditions. like all the high farm workers living in the dominican republic he lives in a battery a camp of makeshift tots. just a few kilometers away is another world jetta van the banks world. a large landowner lives the good life thanks to the dividends she receives from half our trade company alice is a leisure area that i think we hold classes here. as that was us when we held the school so the region as well as extending the law we provide swimming lessons for children aged three to six.
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for a few sleepier know. when. i was a boy sleepy or yes. yes i'm home alone have you lived here. twenty years right behind us i twenty years in this house so rigid on how much to pay ten euros a month including watering sanitary facilities. shower water toilets you take home you know yes they're over there. this is my house. when i say yes my house is on the left and on the right is the guest house. it's where we work. and receive visitors. just about
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a bad claims officially that she has one thousand four hundred euros per month. but she makes no mention of her profits. they. say that's the way it is in business. that some people make progress and others don't oh. here's what i know is that since ninety ninety four when we started. we have always based fair prices of our employees and producers was still have always paid more than the others they can petition and everything is transparent plain to see. if i can pay a good price and make progress at the same time and that's the way to be in business a simple that's how business grows. business perhaps but fat trade takes
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a thrashing. back in paris we asked for an interview with the international federation of max half an hour associations. could have. been in our investigation into large landowners is taken very seriously. that's before we can schedule any interview we would kindly repeat our original request that you furnish a rough cut of the video or a transcript of the documentary to us. when we do not agree to this max have larger issues a categorical refusal. the dutch priest who founded the max have a label also cancels his interview. we know that france found a half is in needs to receive an honorary doctorate from the university of nice sophia antipathies.
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next to him jump block director of the longo coffees and the main client of the cooperative founded by france found the hoff the two men are very close friends. we spoke on the phone atika ok so no filming. there. this evening the priest answers all the questions put to him by the journalist present. almost. his tone was a feeling of look this is a private function so please leave him alone just this is can you leave him alone i haven't had a reply from mr vanderhoof and three weeks ago that's because he doesn't need to speak to you. the father of fan trade is reduced to silence as though max have long
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wanted it all caught. to maintain their angelic image of a label at the service of small produces. but the reality is very different a reality of large retailers large landowners and even food industry giants that have got the upper hand over the small owners. nestle the swiss multinational for example buys a proportion of cocoa from macs have a lot to make its kit kats. starbucks buys fair trade coffee but it represents a mere five percent of one hundred sixty thousand tonnes used by the chain in two thousand and nine. ben and jerry's ice cream one hundred percent fat trade since this year. they can get away with it that target market hip young urban dwellers can afford to pay for them. once again the macs have label has bet on changing the system from within. organic of a trade it's only
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a niche market of two to five percent so we cannot change the system through only. preferences but the fiction of companies like like nestlé like like. they have to go to work transition and asked to choose for a process of change is our big friend for the future. max have lost signs partnerships with multinationals but certainly able to take things even further. this is the case for the rainforest alliance whose logo is spreading like wildfire on a supermarket shelves. the u.s. organization originally specialized in wood certification but in the face of fair trade success it developed a program of ethical agriculture. it is tailored for multinationals that own thousands of hectares of land.
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a stab at the concert because it could be plenty of aid for lebanon and for his stadiums will have to call his patronage even more to media concerns you but he conceded that it would offend. their advertising messages or carbon copy of fair trade principles. except that lipton is not a co-operative of small produces. it's the flagship brand of unilever and anglo dutch trust with more than forty six billion euros. every day worldwide two billion people use its products. the rainforest alliance is playing a dangerous game with unilever. which reasoning will triumph that of business or a fad tried. unilever's tea plantations are located in kenya in the province of kerry show.
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unilever owns fourteen thousand hectares of land there. a surface area the size of the city of paris. with their multiple security posts the plantations a highly secured. twelve thousand five hundred people live and work all year round in the villages inside the property.
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and fat trade in two thousand and six. prominent walk us come from different districts. lists and we have to ensure that they get accommodation or they get their houses. the workers live in the plantation all year round. and isolation. it's not against the rules to leave but unilever has provided everything to fulfill their needs inside the complex recreational areas a hospital with free health care and even schools for that children some idea what your name said let me say hello are you in the kindergarten class at the end as a school.
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in return the workers must accept the odd advocate in the village. what is a. blue bun. in fact up by unilever. unilever. contributed to the paintings and they give free products to all employees do you think that. rico is some would you say makes for making soup all more is that the dent. in the ways. some of these products come from. diplomacy lead to breakthroughs in syria and iran but it also strained relations between the u.s. and saudi arabia what does the future hold for washington riyadh ties.
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choose your language. of holy week over the internet or else they still some of us . choose the news that concerns get to. choose the opinions that invigorating to. choose the stories that in high life choose me access to often. big bucks but. we're going to do the job did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open process is critical to our democracy shred albus. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and i was crushed several we've been hijacked lying handful of
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friends dash all corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers one still just my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem trucks and rational debate and a real discussion critical issues facing america by ever feel ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. i marinate join me. for in-depth impartial and financial reporting commentary in for news and much much. only on bombast and only on.
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in the village shop unilever products get displayed prominently. the multinational pays its workers who in return by its products. marketing with kid would have done it better. in the wonderful world of unilever all pickers are also given free homes with running water. some of which are in a shocking state. these decrepit houses are often given to unilever's seasonal workers. and during spikes of activity there are about four thousand of them on the plantation in
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addition to the twelve thousand five hundred pound of workers two of them grace and james agree to give an anonymous interview. and we can go to the hospital when we can get signed off work but we're not paid one and our families are not covered either nor do our children get free health care in the company hospital. let's say i'm so that does work a bit then they chase says out of the village. with somebody comes and says get your things leave the village and remove your kids from the school then to a labor outside the plantation we are homeless. it's a very frightening. nothing has changed for the seasonal workers since the arrival of the rainforest alliance. and neither have working conditions evolved on the plantation. whether that
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permanent or seasonal work is the t. pick as a group in the units and managed by supervisors. the employees are paid ten cents of the euro per kilo. they can pick thirty five kilos of tea a day and how do any three year o's twice the minimum daily wage in kenya. years are exempt and one killers for morning yes authentic ok here with of of us. do if. it's so hard work for them. i don't understand what you said look for them because the p.c. has been agreed in the way that it is secondly we peavy it will bring where your life and your pittodrie. i think is a very fair we'll bring a work. of something when.
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the supervisors follow our every move. it's impossible to talk freely to the employees especially the women. it's. ok son to santa wait wait for it it's good to. of. to move away these always asking for more time to film images try and find out.
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in october two thousand and eleven. published a damning report on the working conditions of the unilever plantation employees thirty two people were interviewed twenty three women and nine men impact a casual labor ongoing process of. gender and ethnic discrimination. and corruption. according to the employees questioned the rainforest alliance label has had zero impact on the living and working conditions. they argued that because the audit is give the management advance notice of their arrival the management is given ample opportunity to conceal the negative aspects of their operations the participants revealed that the managers instructed them to lie to the auditors and paint a favorable picture about their working and living conditions. it is only outside the plantation that three unilever agreed to be interviewed.
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rose isabelle and county have been working for the multinational for many years one of the supervisors abused their authority and fled to a young girl's night the girls are afraid to refuse as according to african custom one must respect as a barrier as they are afraid of doing the wrong thing if they refuse their advances . when you're a woman on the plantation things are no good. day disappear visor can slip was five different women if you refused his advances the next day you are stopped from the can see. can you make sure your tea gets rejected. if you're a fuse he says you are two areas where there is no tea left. you
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have tried to investigate to see. as they have been in the secular that's been and what do you currently. on their freedoms we are now beginning to be very close to a work us so that they did it. and then we. get their rights their freedom. of expression the freedom. to stay without feeling has. to be sexually harassed by in the past.
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but it is very difficult for these women to break the law of silence. after having been a victim of attempted rape by a supervisor rose decided to alert the unilever hierarchy. a few days later she was summoned by three village gods who knew her attacker well. they took her aside into the t. bush's. such a task in questions why are you trying to embarrass the supervisor when no woman has ever cause problems here. they called me. and they took off my clothes they got time top off me. and drape. when it was all over. but i tried to convince myself that it didn't really matter. they stretton to me
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you know if you talk about it you won't have long to leave. director of the rainforest alliance for east africa is shop around everywhere he goes by the unilever plantations communications advisor. is just. and wants. to move in a tea plantation. it is surprising but it's his reality is that. what would happen if unilever decided to mistreat the flora and foreigner of this nature reserve.
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we are very strict about that of in violation of the criteria two point zero which is a critical criteria on the destruction of ecosystems and that's what leads to a desert a vacation because after two thousand and five or not is a fight if they have destroyed either he cases these. so it is obligatory to meet certain criteria in order to acquire the label but my there not be two levels to tears in the rain forest alliance is specifications sexual harassment is indeed condemned the farmer and supervisors must not threaten sexually abuse or harass verbal physically or psychologically mistreat workers for any reason. but it does not constitute a criterion for exclusion from the label on the other hand destroying the ecosystem causes immediate loss of the label. if the rainforest
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alliance has not taken action against unilever it is officially because it's what it is did not manage to enter into contact with the women who were the victims of sexual harassment during the audit we did find we would not be able to verify the claims that were made. by by the us. it means that you're all system editing the book and read it well. because we have made some work. you have. some information that. will be very important but when. i came i well. i don't agree that it's an important problem in a plantation. this is one of the world's plus one stations and. we. need to prepare for these kinds of questions better because we've had we've had
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our official. response from the main force lines and it's not it's. it's not battle needs of trying. to me through the presidents in the questions because i would need to be prepared but. between two thousand and five and two thousand and eleven the budget of the rainforest alliance grew from six point five to thirty million euros the partnership signed with the multinationals and enabled the organization to undergo rapid development. little by little businesses helping itself to the generous ideas of fire trite. equity throughout the chain. that's what consumer activists want. to growth that's what the sector's main player as a mabel's want fast and foremost. a
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fan trade remains a development tool at the service of small produces first and foremost today it reinforces the predominant system of large land down as multinationals a major distribution networks. that's a far cry from its founders objectives. we should not have invaded iraq britain was for it was responsible that as much as the
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united states and it was wrong russia condemned it quite rightly but it's now violating international law in the same way but wait a second excuse me where is the violation of international law when the president has already been established in the judgment has already been brought down in the international courts from the situation in kosovo from the situation in south sudan again you can't have it both ways you can't be the arbiter of international law one day and then the defender of international law the next manipulating it to your own advantage this is the policy of the united states and the western powers more generally and somehow they don't like it when another country with its power flexes its muscles in order to protect its own strategic interests this is an absolute absurdity. the people of afghanistan head to the polls for the first time since the taleban. vote the place . of our democratic our.
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national. i know c.n.n. the m.s.m. b c news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and might think. it's because one whole attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here the couple. at our teen years we have a different pretty. good because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not. ok. if.
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you guys stick to the jokes i will handle the stuff ok. your friend posts a photo from a vacation you can't afford. and different. the boss repeats the same old joke of course. your ex-girlfriend still tends to rejection poetry keep. ignore it. post only what really matters. to your facebook news feed.
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six. shock and anger worldwide support condemned more than five hundred defendants to death in the biggest mass capital punishment in egypt's modern history also this week. this must be seen as an opportunity for us turkey red faced over a leak conversation between top officials suggesting they're planning a fake attack in syria to give them a reason to intervene. in a viewer from ukraine's hardline right sector group finally catching the attention of brussels with the e.u. foreign policy chief denouncing the group after months of downplaying them. we ended our war. and left iraq to its people a million iraqis died waiting for the united nations five million were made into refugees the country was ripped apart president obama's defense of the iraq
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invasion in comparison to russia's actions in crimea lead to criticism a closer look at the us president's speech in brussels and some of its inconsistency. it's midnight in moscow i met president good to have you with us this week in egypt a single court decision condemned more than five hundred people to death sentence punishment for burning a police station killing one officer and disrupting public order unprecedented verdict triggering mass protests and an outcry from human rights groups across the globe and at the u.n. the number of deaths said this is recently handed down in egypt has now topped that of khalid mubarak during the final years of his rule the former egyptian president arrested during the revolution of two thousand and eleven in the three years since
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neither the military nor the next president mohamed morsi ordered as many executions until now as the army step. efforts to end the arrest in the wake of morsi being removed from power there last summer when he was overthrown new authorities started to started targeting the ousted leader's muslim muslim brotherhood party after being met with fierce resistance the military escalated the crackdown with more than six hundred lives lost during raids on aug fourteenth alone the following month the brotherhood was banned in public protests severely restricted the group declared a terrorist organization and a constitutional referendum was held across the country which brings us to this wednesday when the same general that ousted morsi declared he would run for president which he's expected to handily win egypt one of the first countries to be engulfed by the arab spring but now could be back where it was before the uprising or he's honest us it you're going to take a look. uprisings abroad getting equated with the promise of a better future and hailed as true democracy the democratic message that swept
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across the middle east. show called arab spring so determination through coups and regime change often hailed by washington as an honest way to move forward for the united states supporting democratic transitions it's not a matter of idealism it is a strategic necessity redefining the word democracy to democracy is a government that we like that should our house and if it doesn't well let us not an artist and you can overthrow it in egypt swept by revolution and coup almost five hundred thirty supporters of the ousted morsi regime get sentenced to death as the military takes over the staggering numbers reminiscent of medieval times the only alternative it would seem to despotism is a form of an islamic democracy and the people are paying with their lives and with their security in order to get into the market their clients are respected if you
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would argue that the voice of the people is essential to a legitimate democratic process but the same applies to an officially elected government whose are arguably becoming increasingly accepted as a way to quickly impose change may bring about a swift air of reform in the short term without building a stable government system that can create a strong and truly democratic future which can eventually backfire and r.t. washington d.c. . reports say at least nine people have been killed in turkey is municipal elections and in violence there more than thirty others also reportedly wounded following clashes between supporters and opponents of the ruling party incidents allegedly involved gunfire from both sides but whole families involved in the shootings the turkish government meanwhile busy with damage control after an embarrassing leak suggest to. it's been planning a so-called false flag attack that would justify military intervention in syria investigation launched into
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a leaked tape recording to be of top officials discussing possible justification for invasion angered by the exposure prime minister aired a wanted ordered you tube to be shut down in the country the site where the leak had been share. prime minister said that encouraging conjuncture and they said must be seen as an opportunity for us i'll send four men from syria if that's what it takes i'll make up a cause for war by ordering a missile attack on turkey officials talking about a possible attack on the tomb of sulaiman shah turkish monument in northern syria permanently guarded by turkish troops on her a previously threatened to retaliate against any assault on the site any conflict involving turkey could lead to a full blown intervention in syria involving nato and who are activists gene prayer things that many western governments may welcome it if in fact there was a faction of wishes that were looking for you provocation it would also wind up with which is that the united states and also in europe who are increasingly more
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like it he would like to see more of a western nato intervention inside of syria and we know that each one monitoring forces have been continually agitating all across the united states and in europe and certainly there are forces in turkey that feel the same way syria calling for a u.n. probe into turkey's alleged plans for a so-called false flag attack on current consistently tried to rally nato against syria looking for possible causes for invasion. has been keeping track turkey as one of serious fiercest critics has led calls for an international intervention not only that it's persistently providing the reasons for. turkey claims syrian forces fired across the border at refugees and floats the idea of calling on nato for reinforcement and protection. turkey admits one of its f. four military jets was shot down by damascus after flying over syria's airspace and
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kora deems it an act of war reserving the right to respond and after calling an emergency nato meeting turkey reminds the alliance of its responsibility to protect member states. turkey cites a growing threat from syria requesting that nato to safeguard the country expand its deployment of patriot missile batteries along the border with syria and what could lead to nato action article five of the alliance's charter says an attack on any member shall be considered an attack on all well it's a conservative policy on the part of the north atlantic treaty organization nato which turkey is a part of has been a part of the us since the early one nine hundred fifty s. it appears that was the strategy was to provoke an attack of some syrian territory on to turkey therefore providing a rationale to draw in the support of the united states and perhaps israel as well
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as britain and other states that are part of the nato alliance certainly nato members share turkey's sentiments about the syrian government both openly support the rebels in their fight against damascus and as for how far turkey will go a new leak on you tube seems to offer some insight on that it's a great peek into the way governments operate and how they general toward each other they would like to have happen and blame them on somebody else a lot of these insurgents are trained in american military bases and air force bases in turkey and then put into syria syria. also has gotten all shipments of weapons i should say the insurgents have gotten shipments of weapons from turkey so far nato has not gotten involved but with turkey's grabbing every opportunity to say why it should strike syria there's no telling how long that will last marina port ny r.t. . still ahead this hour the pain in spain madrid iraq by more government protests
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with the public accusing the government of making people pay for the state's debt with their health and education. just to let you know any minute now we're expecting a live news conference on the crisis in ukraine after emergency talks between russia and the u.s. top diplomats foreign minister sergei lavrov the u.s. secretary of state kerry have been meeting in paris trying to hammer out a solution to ukraine's turmoil these talks considered vital so vital as much that kerry even diverted his flight back to washington diverted to fly to paris for the meeting stay with us here on r.t. as we bring you these diplomats live statements as it happens.
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