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recent spat between the gulf states has added together another front line to the already tense the battle for regional dominance but turkey openly siding with could chart and iran against saudi arabia the long running sunni town chance have various drive into the open why did turkey decide to jump into the fray rather than trying to pull the strings from a distance to discuss that i'm now joined by former president of turkey of the our good mr president such a great honor talking to you thank you very much for your time you were still present and one trick you decided to take a more active role in in the syrian crisis and many believe that that may have not have turned out for the best interest of your country why do you think a decided to take such an active stance in the dispute between saudi arabia and. qatar was it a prudent decision for the forestall. a
nine to them at the border with their current. if the. crew on the hot problem so you have to deal with this it's a threat. perception. and this proved to us that and more than three million people they escape that i think that. their future us so what we wish to see. through. the for both of. you want to see the people safe. the whole. wealth we don't have that about syria or. iraq neighboring countries we don't have total problem with you don't have
conflict of interest with them just we wish to see that they are happy there are not problem for mr president turkey or you this is the only country that doesn't have conflict of interest with its neighbors because everybody else does i mean the russia has so many conflicts of interest with its neighbors so you maybe they like exception but i guess my point was that the way the means that the cherokee chose to intervene in the syrian crisis may have long been. the most efficient means because as you pointed out there have three million refugees that you have to deal with it's a big burden on the budget so certainly not all your goals have been achieved and but we have to remember of the beginning of the problem it was not the turkey it was the syrian people demand that legitimate clients they demand more of them so they made the most crucial for this unfortunate regime.
and. sold them as an enemy and sent the army against them you know before the problem we have a really good relationship with the regime and you are helping them. and then me. to engage them. although there was a pressure on us from some of us in france but we preferred to engagement to ask them to translate transform their origins in them it is totally insane that regime could not. one this was ridiculed it we were told. to remember rishta changed. but. millions of syrians. askew. otherwise be the
reason to create the problem. this should. push through to pull together to come at the beginning we have different solution. is. to get the beginning to have a common policy so not for the. people suffer but i think as you pointed out there have been some success in bringing a political event aleutian your country is working on that with russia with iran but i want to ask you about another. growing regional crisis and this is qatar you mentioned that. the turkish leadership used to have a very good relationship with the syrian government it also has a very good relationship with the qatar in leadership and it decided to. intervene
in the gulf crisis that is still ongoing not only by standing humanitarian aid but also by by sending troops and a small number but still troops do you think that was a wise decision. the gulf. region we have france and all of them this is through the room for. us we don't know but before this. started we brought heavy security. through also. agreements we all. agree with. and also. present. these are not just
specific to have. the student as you said trying to make i'm not big difference. they're all thought absolutely you can be friends with all of them but obviously there are some tensions but between the two of them because saudi arabia openly accuses qatar of aiding terrorist organizations it is no secret that. all fun and quite openly coordinate their foreign policy said do you agree with those accusations made by saudi arabia that qatar indeed is supporting terrorist groups around the us are. very out of their phone. as a christian you know the. world i want to say. this. really is going relationship with them.
personal friend. if you don't want to side against us now turkish media has reported recently that the saudis are threatening to support kurdish groups in syria if it continues to back qatar do you think those reports should be taken seriously is that and the evidence of how friendly the relationship is both of them in the first of all this should be. against the kurds kurds relatives or many times that you protect the. the kurds in syria yes you can sue or do you. mean the kurdish city and if. so what we are opposing. some kurdish groups affiliated to peek. and expanding the.
the control and by force change to their most of the region so this is not acceptable of course this route create there's every. feelings the time to come when the reverence the region be. the hotel again so if you don't want to see this that was if you can be to see kurds happy in the camp this involved we don't see them as a threat but what we see as a threat is very conscious one of the church group is moving. and crate and the region within serbia this is against the. unity of syria this what we are now it's not only the syrian kurds
that have been in the news a lot lately and also the iraqi kurds have been announced that intention to hold an independence referendum in september and. i know this is something that. the government and the government in teheran the government in damascus and the government in baghdad oppose do you think that could be some sort of basis for a fragile regional concern so i think the russian and united states also don't prefer. this so again the problem is this. because people. are they happy or. are they have full. rights or so to fulfil all right but the independence. of the country is not good for the region and for good for them. should remain as one.
if the suppression order or are. they really have the same future. wars in the region. to see. groups. happy. using this is well it's. less likely the more they're not understanding otherwise look at the immigration. look at the. many. differences so if all the differences if they have to have. mass so this one. sport but you know it's not the right of separation but the right of self-determination and it is granted by charter i want to quote you something
that since you spoke about the rising i want to quote you something that the chief advisor to the iraqi kurdish leader massoud barzani said just last week and he compared the. referendum to the recent constitutional vote and he said the us people in turkey are voting for their constitutional reform exercise their own democratic ride so we are exercising our democratic right to see what the people of want doesn't he have a point that they have the right to hold this vote and see what their people prefer but i don't want to. i mean they have to state this because i don't know they have the theory. that the background in a bowl i want to say that yes carts that are out kill they have to be happy they have to be use all they have rights and they should be cool with
all the tops if there are problems in economic problems that there's there should be a corner but good i could go maine as a run country so if the. if they claim to be. different. so this is the legitimacy for the suppression than in other companies in russia in america you know other companies in china that are in many different ethnicities that this stuff so they can justify this so i am not a. mother against the curse. and always had a good relationship with. cards. it was a great pressure on us not to have sympathy. this is something out of my concern is the division of the regional support
for. bringing peace to the region well mr president let me stop you for a second we need to take a very short break but we will be back in just a few moments and. here's what people have been saying about rejected in the senate just pull along on the only show i go out of my way to lunch you know what it is that really packs a punch at least yampa is the john oliver of party americans do the same we are apparently better than blue. sea people you've never heard of love jack tonight president of the world bank very. seriously send us an e-mail. to me that this is the time for the financial sation bubble to to implode to collapse i don't think it's time yet these banks have another fifteen trillion dollars to create the european central bank to leverage this up by another five
trillion dollars easily bank of japan is a never ending fountain of free cash zero percent interest rate so this is a ways to go. welcome back to all the part that we are talking to former president of turkey of the like you know mr president a few years ago your culture aka a european country with a muslim population is still the case but turkey is a huge opium country and show us argue or fight it out in terms of phallocentric our feeling is you're destroying. this fraud to look at that you know really you new plays that it's not all solo in geography you know the story also when you write your. story is
a part of that fight is the european union is concerned yes you are and they go she i think that the european union. although the negotiation process is not going. but. on the political side. the problems on the technical side the relationship is. you know we are european custom union so we hope. but does this mean that turkey really become the full member of the europe. european union maybe turkish people. maybe at the front. they will have a referendum on the membership. so they may see that turkey is not good
for them and they may refuse does. this import to. the market fix them that's what i can make stone to the legal system is good for us all of us that's it that's great to hear has specially from you let me ask you specifically about the diplomatic democratic rather. legal standards because in many of your interviews three or four years ago you used to stress the separation of powers as a key safeguard of democracy and over the last few months we have seen. executive. fire sometimes detain about a third of its judges this chance of the executive has also been significantly increased do you think the separation of powers is an aspiration for the current turkish leadership. is for me the support of paul it is important for us
all of us. to. have the. problem in future maybe you today. through everything but tomorrow there will be support of paul were to go to n.p.r. all the time stability. support. this. so for this important close third of terms. per day it's sometimes. problems with these issues. you know we have this russian saying that nothing is more permanent than temporary unfortunately they have this peace is has been proven by our own history of what started as
a temporary often leads to disaster as a consequence as part sample the stalin era is a good example in russia. going back to turkey most of those judges as well as teachers as well as policemen who were arrested on allegations that they were sympathetic to or part of the so-called his math moment. she's being accused by the current government of orchestrating last year is cool and we are talking about tens of thousands of people who have been either detained or whole lost their job because of some suspicions clearly they couldn't have been part of the all of them do you think your country is treating them fairly you talked about the legal standards do they deserve deserve the kind of treatment that they are getting from from their state right now. for. you know. all the facts.
this age. having. incurred ration. can not be acceptable and no one we have sympathy at this time for truth is people there are to do this so it is well known many people they have lost their lives. the trauma for me from the political climate of it with all of us. this was a short for us because no one imagine that there will be any. apparently mr president everything is so precious housewarming what's happening of course i mean. some mergers being taken by the
authorities but. can that be must punishment so that for. a force to police who hold who. it's difficult birth of course the case is that of course i mean really. well mr president you know that russia was one of the first countries that sided with turkey when the call happened but i know personally turkish families here in russia whose kids as young as five had that passports canceled who were denied consular services because the turkish state has some suspicions about their parents do you think children are a fair game when being in this state wants to go after parents but i understand their difficulties aren't. that of course. all
balls there are three at the wrong. of course there shouldn't be. though of course. if someone is. also. having problems so this is not. going to correct that and i understand that this is an extremely difficult question for you and i i really appreciate your honesty and being willing to answer those questions but who do you think will protect these people now because from my understanding being you know the calling somebody girliness is the worst thing you can do in turkey right now what but what does it even mean to be a gillan is is there any legal standard north grows i mean are. you must punish me. the sort of pull that you're off the. shore. of course we have to get off this car.
because many people. difficulties are you know. if i'm not mistaken from your own advisor i show you must was that arrested twice accused of some links of with the feds a moment can i just the last question on this topic do you think there is any legal standard that the prosecution has to comply with do they have to prove the involvement in the criminal activity rather than just accusing somebody of sympathies with the teachings of some clerics well they. prove for the current. illegal communication system. crime in itself communicating with
somebody. charge off to. the side all these things. must punishment and. the term should be also on this through. of course if you know some people are suffering this should be. ok you were one of those politicians who spearheaded turkey's. accession reform we mentioned some of that already it's clearly no longer a priority but some european experts i've talked to believe that if the e.u. were a little bit more forthcoming and accommodating to turkey. a few years back that. these tightening of the screws in turkey wouldn't have happened do you prevent that perhaps this whole situation in turkey could have been avoided i mean.
do this so. many problems. can i ask you the last question and it would be a historical one because turkey is following father's including stuff i came up with that sort of made the case in their memoirs that turkey's entanglements in the middle east. verily and well and that's was part of he's argument that turkey has to be a pro western secular republic i don't know if you agree with him on the secular part but do you think fifteen twenty years from now will remain probe western where is the drafting doesn't see doesn't still see the south as a bridge between the east and west or is a suggestion more in the direction of the east both. mostly. europe. eurasia
occur. so what's important is the democracy in for democracy in fact the. you know our sort of model use. the. rule of law. of course for the north koreans so. strong me. brought this in the process and these are the direction of torquey so why should. relations with russia because of. you are leaving from europe you are writing a story to make your relationship with. this is an indication that you are living from you know these are not the core of their real hundred strong relationship with europe different than the reverse. russia if you think you can help us.
with the war these are not against each other these are not the only charge that mr president it's been a great honor at talking to you thank you very much for your candid answers i really appreciate that cliche opponents are not twitter facebook and you and i hope to see you again same place same time here in all the part. of.
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