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as to speak to professor noam chomsky has there ever been an organisation in history which is dedicated to the destruction of the possibility you were going to assume that look that's what we're facing. with chris hedges. noam chomsky is probably america's greatest intellectual who has written on the palestine israel conflict the nature of the liberal capitalist democracy how imperialism works as well as the reconfiguration of the american economy into an oligarchy system that makes war on the middle class this is part one of our conversation with professor chomsky in his office at mit. with chris hedges. so professor chomsky i want to ask you about the ten principles that are laid out and organized in the book requiem for the american dream which was based on the documentary that
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you did the ten principles of concentration of wealth and power and the first one you talk about is reducing democracy what i mean by that i should first come to the. construction of the ten principles is really the contribution of the editors it's there are quite effective console edition of person hours of interviews and discussion which they were going to this form reducing the bucker so it means the gradual marginalization of the population in the. reduction of the role of the general population into the decision making in the public arena which is. an expected. predictable consequence of the introduction of the transition to neo liberal principles in the. seventy's and on were others basically
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to general phases of post war us socio economic history the first phase was sometimes called regulated capitalism imbedded liberalism of the fifty's and sixty's and very high growth period egalitarianism growth some moves towards social justice in the sixty's a substantial increase in democratic participation people became really gauged in the public arena. all of this had various effects one effect was reduction befalling rate of profit which is critical the second effect was people were coming to him to vote engaged in public affair this is what samuel huntington called an excess of democracy excess of democracy and in fact two very important.
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publications came out in the early seventy's both directed this they're interesting because they were opposite ends of the political spectrum but they basically came to the same conclusion with somewhat different rhetorical styles but one was the powell memorandum one thousand says it was all memorandum which. written by the late. a corporate lawyer working for the tobacco corporations and later became a supreme court justice under nixon he wrote a memorandum which was supposed to be confidential but it leaked to the u.s. chamber of commerce business group and in which he the rhetoric is quite fascinating he expressed the view of which is not uncommon among those who really own the world that see their control as being very slightly diminished and in the manner. more of a spoiled three year old doesn't get
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a piece of candy that means the world is coming to an end so you really have to read the rhetoric to appreciate the attack on the american free enterprise system he said the business world is under severe attack. ralph nader and herbert marcuse universities are right on the we're practice barely surviving you know. all of everything and significant in american life and then he says well look after all we business men basically own everything we can we are the trustees of the universities we don't let these don't have to let these kids run wild and become we can constrain the media after all we have the power and calls for mobilization of the business world to defend their silsbee probably in the blueprint i mean for this corporate money the heritage foundation led who had a big impact on the growth of right wing think tanks much of the ideology
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for right so that's at the right end of the spectrum then you go to the other end of the spectrum basically the carter administration liberalism and the the people who staff the carter administration trilateral commission it's and strudel democracies europe japan and the united states basically liberal internationalists and they have a publication called the crisis of democracy and the crisis of democracy is there's too much democracy in the one nine hundred sixty s. too many people who are usually passive and pathetic the way people are supposed to be started becoming engaged in the political arena pressing for their demands and so on the some what are sometimes called special interests meaning young people old people farmers workers in other words. everybody except the corporate
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regional manager there the national interest but these special interests are putting too much pressure on the state so we have to have more moderation in democracy people have to return to being passive than an episode of the american repertory you mentioned in the room with some the referred to the period when as he put it truman was able to run the country with the cooperation of a few will st louis years and executives and then it was no crisis with democracy that's kind of the when they very effectively of course succeeded in rolling back i want to go on to your next point about shaping idiology but you talk about the difference between madison and aristotle in that aristotle you know both of them understood that if there was inequality in the same way that john locke and bentham and others did that there would be tension between the rich and the poor madison
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calling for government to reduce democracy aristotle saying the solution which you obviously support is to reduce inequality and your second point shaping the idiology the we mention the power of them away mentioned the trilateral commission but specifically they targeted various segments of the society indoctrination of the young you talk about the way they actually created architectural plans for ecologists so that large demonstrations would not be possible the use of student debt for debt peonage the destruction of public institutions talk about that process to reconfigure the idiology into a form of neo liberal and. i don't want to suggest to the commission led to these developments it was more or less an articulation of the liberal. elite
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consensus on these issues and for that reason it's quite interesting so the phrase indoctrination of the young is there for is. that there are consensus for is they said the institutions responsible for the indoctrination of the young are failing their duty well that's an interesting way to describe educational institutions kind of like the comment on truman being able to run the country with corporate corporate lawyers and so on but that's kind of the ideal there should be indoctrination students should not be free to think they don't put it this way who remains as they should be free to enquire thing to challenge or just the kind of things that in a decent educational system young people would be encouraged to do and in the schools and universities but it's dangerous because there are questioning too many
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italian. in the soviet union old soviet union you could be condemned for being anti soviet in the brazilian military dictatorship you could be brazilian but aside from the united states i don't know of any other. non to tell a terror and or terror and country with the concept even exist it's a very striking country concept if you're critical of policy you're anti american actually this has an interesting biblical origin the first use of this concept is actually. taking a who is the ultimate king of also medieval in the bible he called the prophet. elijah to him and asked him why he is a hater of his running. the
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a pharmaceutical chills people when a company in the environmental business ends up polluting a river that causes cancer and other illnesses they put all the health risk all the dangers out to the american public those are stories that we tell every week and you know what they're working. your watching and our team haricot special report it is this me is my that's. basically everything that you think you know about civil society have broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be on the normalising. we don't need people that think like this on our plate. this is an incredibly tense situation. what politicians do to. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when
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you want to express an injury. or some want to be. the two going to be close this is what the four three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters about how. i should move. on with chris hedges. welcome back to our conversation with professor noam chomsky . so let's talk about principle number three redesign the economy. i suppose this would have taken off would you say in the one nine hundred seventy s. late began in the seventy's you see the first steps in the carter administration than reagan and what were they doing what did you say well this is the so-called neo liberal shift to try to shift decisions from the public arena
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to what's called the market the market how do you define liberalism it's basically the idea is private is reduce the role of the public institutions. deregulate. permit to infect encourage the growth of financial institutions a. network of policies of this kind as the ideology claims it's increasing freedom so actually increasing tyranny it means that instead of decisions and choices being made in the public arena where the public in principle has something to rule the state to the degree that the state is democratic may be an actual rule shifting it to private tyrannies corporate sector mostly pretty highly monopolized all the gospel and that's when you get this imbalance between
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what you talk about the manufacturing sector and the financial sector you also have a normas growth of the financial sector so if you go to the fifty's and sixty's the regulated capitalism period banks were basically banks you know put your money in and let the people the start of business something like that from the early seventy's it shifted dramatically that to speculate huge increase in speculation complex. jewel instruments by two thousand and seven before the latest of the crashes for which the financial sector was mostly responsible they actually had forty percent of course and this is an economy where a centrally you make money by manipulating money a shift in that degree actually the in the one nine hundred ninety s. is when the decline of the manufacturing sector really begin it and this was a specific policy it's a combination of trade post and fiscal policy. go into the details but that's
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centrally was the high dollar policy the way in which the so-called free trade free trade agreements were structured led to these effects this is all part of the same system and its consequences one consequence is that for the majority of the population stagnation over the climate. but take a look at real wages there what you we should just talk to you to speak about this these free trade agreements in essence pushed the plight of the american worker downward because they had to be competitive with sweatshop workers and. that it was putting the working people of the world in competition right but not but allowing freedom of capital and in fact high protection for little these are not free trade agreements so the. what's called intellectual property rights is just
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a huge tax on the population it's a massive increase in the patent rights which had never existed before means that you know microsoft monopoly can be challenging the mega-corporations of the extraordinary rights and the effect of this is it's like a extremely high terror. it's one of them i like to talk about how workers can but capital can you know that and that the whole capitalism itself if you go back to adam smith is based on the free circulation of labor that is the foundation of athletes have smith but there's nothing like that. but let me ask about that this was this created worker insecurity by design and the phrase growing worker insecurity is alan greenspan's.
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kind of running but edging the system as head of the fed but when he was testifying to congress on the success of the economy he was running he attributed a large part of it to what he called growing worker insecurity saw as a good thing that's the implication because he keeps wages now. the national weather service in the early virginia has issued a special marine warning for chesapeake bay from north beach to drum point marilyn chalk and river to cambridge maryland in the middle child and river banks and river to booms island merriment ten years sound in the inland waters surrounding bloodsworth island intel six forty five pm at five forty seven pm
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economic policies another effect was deregulation starts with with a started actually in late carter but picked up with reagan and extended under clinton that financial and that meant the beginning of a crashes in the fifty's and sixty's there were no fanatic crashes. new deal regulation starting in the eighty's you start getting crash after crash each one worse than the last public bills and now. you know that's the nature of the system let me out let me move on to shifting the burden is another shifting the burden. so that the. oligarchy it's having specially fortune five hundred companies are not paying taxes and it and more of the responsibility for funding the nation falls on the box of the working poor thankfully there's been
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a very sharp reduction in taxation of the wealthy since the fifty's in the fifty's and sixty's right through the new liberal period and all sorts of other devices of been developed so that the corporate sector can avoid them so you take the biggest company in the world. hugely profitable. an office somewhere and. the national weather service in mount holly new jersey has issued a severe thunderstorm warning for morris county in northern new jersey hundred county in north western new jersey southern sussex county northwestern new jersey northeastern rim county in northwestern new jersey mercer county in central new
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counties in new jersey hundred mercer middlesex morris somerset sussex and warren in bucks dana. over the risk to themselves they did with subprime market they don't pay attention to what's called systemic risk that the whole system may collapse that's the public's pro on climate change as perhaps no we have climate change that's an externality which is going to destroy us unless something is done and the position of the savage wing of american capitalism the republican party is quite striking they are really racing towards a precipice haven't you call it the most dangerous organization in world history was that there i think that's as i pointed out that's not religious statement but the question is is it true has there ever been an organization and history which has dedicated itself to destruction of the possibility of organized human life
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that's actually what we're facing and they're pretty remarkable and the trumpet ministration has accelerated they have accelerated it but they're right there at the peak of the republican party shift take a look at the last primaries every single candidate in the republican primary either flatly deny that climate change is happening or else said maybe it is but we don't do anything about it one hundred percent the nihilism of the paris negotiations in this concluded december twenty fifth team were intended to reach a verifiable treaty they couldn't. just keep the promises because they're public and congress wouldn't permit reply no november eight lists november eighth he was just a spacecraft pulled out so isolated in the world literally isolated in racing
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toward the precipice while the rest of the world was trying to do something not enough but at least something to deal with the prob right i guess that was professor noam chomsky. thank you for watching join us next week for part two with our conversation with professor noam chomsky you can find us on our t. dot com slash on contact until next week. it's called the future we don't mean going to. everyone in the world should experience flu and you'll get it on the old with. the
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