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the day lebanese war began which would end in victory over the u.k. back just really all me we speak to the director and star of the new play celebrating a poet whose life was turned upside down on the day plus from palestine to britain we speak to an organization that records. incidents in the u.k. about whether the mainstream media is to blame for a rise in islamophobia tax and this british campaign is lose their bid to block sales to saudi arabia what exactly was u.k. foreign secretary boris johnson doing in comes to mediate the push in gold prices going up and today's going underground but first will schoolchildren understand tomorrow's e.u. talks in ukraine will they understand that the e.u. backed government in kiev as we know allied to far right groups associated with anti semitism after ukraine's tragic world war two history that there is a contextual nazi past to this week's ordering by donald trump of u.s. missile warships and hundreds of soldiers to the black sea maybe not here in the
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u.k. few even realize the historical context behind tourism is billion pound deal with a party recently allied paramilitaries to stay prime minister here for instance is now u.k. school children are educated about northern ireland it says the protestant majority discriminated against catholics and that the ira used terrorist attacks and that the troubles involved many high profile attacks no where is any sign of the word gerrymandering or colonialism if curricular are being attacked for being imperialist attacks on the schools by government austerity are also under attack oscar nominated star steve coogan and campaigner alison ali founder of save our schools accompanied m.p.'s and schoolchildren recently to downing street to protest the slashing of education budgets this even before theresa may said school teachers will continue to face cuts in salary steve coogan a shot to fame with his create. of bumbling right wing chapter of host alan
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partridge won two oscar nominations for his film philomena his latest production was the trip to spain and the rewritten version of the police's message in a bottle sung by protesting schoolchildren. am we caught up with steve in am the founder of britain's save our schools down the somali right in front of the door of number ten downing street what do you do out here when trays i'm a she says is busy balancing the books in there. with the save our schools campaign the austerity measures that have been posing the last seven years i think people have had enough of them and we're here to sort of fly the flag for state the state education system which has borne the brunt of many of these austerity measures and i don't know whether it's because the government don't use the state education system or many of them because education system but it's not a priority for them but over ninety percent of the people in this country used to education and it's a right not a privilege and the government needs to. provide
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a decent education system which of the moment it's not doing. the material facts already even the public accounts committee says the government suffering from collective delusion if you think you can make any further savings by imposing three million three billion pounds a year cuts it's having material that's already teaching stuff being laid off assistance all the all the peripheral support stuff that schools need to operate are being laid off and the arts music sports things a dean don't essential bear the brunt of those cuts and those are the very subjects that enhance the lives of schoolchildren and make a huge cultural contribution to the standing of this country throughout the world alison from graeme felt to the n.h.s. let alone education we are told continually in britain not to politicize all stare as he would he say to the. i say balderdash quite frankly i say as the fifth
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largest economy in the world we can surely afford to provide a world class education system for. all the states as ninety three percent of kids who actually use the state's education system we have had these three billion a year in cuts are coming on top of seven years of funding cuts to schools head teachers are cracking under the stress of their schools a cracking under the stress of it as i've said before class sizes are exploding sometimes forty children plus per class we are not prepared to see all schools to become as steve has described it a safety net for the poorest in the slums while while the all sports and rich subjects become the province of the lucky few who can actually afford to pay for it privately teacher is amazes more and more people are going to school and they're being funded by the taxpayer. that's what the taxpayer should do that's the responsibility part of the. taxation system is that you found
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a decent decent education system a decent health service that's thing that most people agree with that's what most people's country with. fifty percent population would in would approve of increased taxation to pay for these services is part and also because of recent events i think the national debate has changed it's shifted whereas the majority in this country realize that the government's responsibility is to look after the whole community to look after the many not the few and that that debate has shifted now and i think the government on the back foot about it many of the cabinet breaking ranks should ease austerity measures so there's no you there's no. unity in the government ranks about this about any of these issues to do with how education or even the sort of the safety of our our councils and civil servants and politicians behind you are horrified to hear of corbin's proposals that each private schools should be. treated. for taxation purposes in
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a way that is not subsidized by the taxpayer so this is just like the separate issue i mean our views on the i think that we need to basically. if something is a privilege like that then nothing should be should. people who have money should pay more money so that people who don't have money we need to redistribute wealth in this country because of course the system is set up so those who have money make more money on fast system we need to readjust that system so that people have the. equality of opportunity and there is an even better than them in all such a society and can i just start on the subject of graham full time you know which was obviously an absolutely devastating cianci day and made us all just. weep you know from a heartfelt place that the national audit office is such that school buildings themselves need six point seven billion pounds spending on them for those buildings
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to be brought up to a satisfactory standard is the extent to which the which the government has been has been getting away with quite frankly six point seven billion is needed just bring the buildings up to scratch last before that's before you've paid for the paper the books the teachers the all the music all the things that we're starting to see being lost then again and again we hear again this phrase balancing the books we have to pay off the bailouts for the banks because of the twenty eight crash. it's a choice it always is and it's a choice this is where you re appropriate. phones and i mean paul is the problem isn't going to make him like michael go free schools experiment which needs another two and a half billion just to buy the land for the promised five hundred schools he said he would deliver which is the whole the whole project has been seen as a folly but money's like almost. the money they suggested should be cut from
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schools every year. fifty million on the on the project resistance of vanity projects that's just an example of of irresponsible use of public phones the whole grammar school and which is which is a p.r. exercise because certain tabloid right wing tabloid newspapers are obsessed with them and that again is an irrelevance it's a distraction from what we should be doing which is funding our state system properly yet just vitally britain has been involved in wars of course we do have money for that in your most recent t.v. work the trip you see to me being kidnapped by isis israel carried away you know what with the humor in that was that i was there was he read it because i was doing was showing i was trying to talk about the history of islam and i see how historically. more tolerant of christianity historically something's got to the morals and yes that cetera and than my own innate or all societies innate is i'm
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a phobia this is like just rivers its head picks its head above the parapet and the final scene you have to watch it's on the sombong going on about. thank you. award winning actor and writer steve coogan there what he sees as society's innate islamophobia joining me now is he has mogul founder of tell mama and geo the records and measures and team muslim attacks in the u.k. feel like so much for coming back go on the show before he goes islamophobia your reaction to tory m.p.'s marie morris using the n word symptomatic of something still institutionally bigoted about. i think there is certainly something institutionally that has not been challenged around terminology like this and yes i think there is a challenge around some of the endemic racism around language that is still prevalent we can see in this case i mean what does it say where a tory m.p. things that language like this. is acceptable i think in today's world a tory m.p.
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or a labor m.p. any m.p. who makes comments like this can hang on to their job is clear is that you know this is unacceptable and these common should never have been made man she has to face the consequences of this. to tell the statistics having heard about his love of her big attacks since so-called days is. up five hundred percent of the island bridge attacks britons responding in exactly the way it is precisely. a sadly this is you and i know this is exactly what they want to separate communities they want muslim community to feel victimized nice lated and the wider community is effectively to fracture and not connect with muslim communities so you know hate crimes actually feed into that we got a very clear hate crimes targeting any member of the muslim community or any member of a community particularly the muslim committee feed into his narrative the other factor as you mentioned you're absolutely right you know after after london bridge we saw a spike in hate crimes and a incidences same aftermath just a very very large one after manchester and these spikes have been continuing the
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only one we didn't see a spike in was after the westminster parliament attack and we're looking into that as we would we need to do some work as to why society or members of society didn't react in relation to that incident the fact is these peaks these very high peaks are not good for communities are not good for society they're not good for cohesion and actually they may also as you rightly said play into the very narrative we're trying to corrode and undermine which is separation ism promotion of extremist narratives these things we need to corrode and undermine but actually hate crimes and reaction to hate crimes by targeting muslims feed into that which is you started the engine go far right attacks like the one we saw entrance republic mosque treated very differently still blowing through media in this country compared to your absolutely right i think you're an outgrowth of newspaper headlines i think you're absolutely right the denial that far right extremism leads to deaths is really atrocious we know that actually three people have now been killed by extremism far right extremist and narratives three muslim. but in the
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newspapers we see a downplaying of these issues we see a downplaying of the narrative issues of how dangerous far right extremism is and actually then in many instances these individuals are unbalanced they've been you know they've had hard lives and they're mentally ill they may be issues in their lives but we have to get down to the crux of it if we're talking about ideology of isis let's talk about the ideology of it the extremist far right communities small number but they're there in our society and let's talk about it i mean you look at today i had coming into our twitter feeds britain first's activities today reaching out to members of the polish community who i'm sure will reject the narrative but we are how we are allowing this to continue how the newspapers not saying the b.b.c. picked it up so you know or power to their elbow but actually the fact of matter is why we're not challenging this. really because of identity politics or they're obsessed with it and just very briefly no sign of any let up british muslims and being stopped in the streets by prevent officers with their way five business
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skirts to try to infiltrate communities i wouldn't know about that but i would certainly consider. what you've been stopped well i mean i i would have often i would hope i was which is where other parties are against i would say clearly if that ever happens it has a huge detrimental impact on the individual who is stopped and it doesn't build trust in any way shape or form i would say that but i also got to say this that actually if people feel that they have been targeted for whatever reason whether it's whether it's through far right or other movements reported in to us reported in to us we will pick it up we will do case work on this we have to sometimes challenge those people who think it's ok just to target isolate out members of any community particularly in this case because we work the muslim communities as mughal thank you thank you very much after the break as thousands of refugees died trying to cross the mediterranean from a major destroyed libya we speak to the director and star of the new play tough but tells one man's story of the impact of zionist terror that made refugees. of
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hundreds of pounds in the palestinians and off to monday's high court decision in london is britain's multi-billion dollar military support to saudi arabian destruction in yemen all but assured. to him going on the ground. a cia now wants to come out still at the same time ask. who's your mole you know. we might need to move to a lot of holes yet they moved money. magnificent. someplace to singapore food. they may save us from people they're really nice and friendly in my conformance feel welcome in russia it's all. good it was the food
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was dusty a very enjoyable place to be in the military from like a poke. fun time to the losers you. want to be so mason remey someplace you go through a. bunch because they were nice people the last year were very bad the faces of them here which are there still things still. do colin is still exist. ricos treated as one. really toe and then only on the portal three called i see little can i do a lot of. the island is controlled by the u.s. government and some puerto ricans crave independence just a little sealed i mean you can argue no me. either way but i'm going to sort of i make overtaking again with the audience. still. many do wish to join the u.s.
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hundreds more leave every day. on time along. with the country at a crossroads anger of the island is on the rise. about your sudden passing i've only just learnt you worry yourself in taking your last bang turn. your act to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each other. but then my feelings started to change you talked about more like it was again still some more fun to feel those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it's one does not leave
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a funeral the same as one enters the mind it's consumed with this one. i speak to you now because there are no other takers. claimed that mainstream media has met its maker. welcome back joining me now to go through some of this week's headlines is abdel bari atwan editor in chief of arabic news outlet right out of your home thanks so much abdel for going back. to palestinian stars on later in the show i should say it's eleven years since. late to u.s. and u.k. forces in the fight against isis day as well as one that victory eleven years ago in the twenty six lebanon war were to reflections on the i believe it was a turning point in the middle east and history managed to speed fast for thirty two days and he inflicted a huge defeat on the israeli army's because the. move. consider that one of the
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strongest in the middle east maybe the fourth of the world that is really image as the strongest country in the middle east actually was tarnished by that war. emerged as a strong power well arguably. were defeated i go in london your first headline middle east i absolutely shocked british until our arms campaigners. to blocks tools saudi arabia these moms and the machine. is used against one of the poorest country in the words yemen why this truly is actually of a religion or humanitarian international law of the british government who told us that their foreign policy is whiter than white but then i called the secretary of state in britain was a rational dialogue include the saudi that coalition was not deliberately targeting civilians more than ten thousand civilian women must a killed by these kind of i mean now they say it is legal to bomb them it is legal to kill them it is legal to destroy the infrastructure of the eagles as ill weapons
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and training the saudis are going to be certainly good news for britons but when a factual company b. systems let's go next hour of course which has been working with a pseudo yemeni government based in saudi arabia a bit later this. year we are meets with share in latest effort to mediate gulf does he know about the subject. therefore is he experienced enough and actually to handle this personally i believe the war goes through three stages the first is the media war which is already is quality the second is that sanction or economy which is also at its peak and the third state if the two states are not going to work the third stage could be military intervention with two under the pretext of helping internal coup or actually to invade the country and. so i believe there is collusion there is a danger of war and those. foreign minister to foreign ministers of britain united
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states that to diffuse that situation whether they are going to succeed personally i got well arguably trump may be more worried about massive mainstream media in the united states talking about are you going to go to india because of the kremlin is southern southern lord or your lawyer this is from the world's oceans website suggesting it might not be putting the patrol in the way to a new study shows clinton lost election because of growing working class opposition what this report is saying that the casualties highest casualties were in the poorest and least educated there is going to stay yes because a vote of drones merely middle seats people actually supplying the american army with fighters and a very heavy price for that at least thirty thousand people were injured in iraq and about five thousand people were killed so those people said no. this is our red card we are not allowed to do so and we're not going to vote for you or abstain
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from voting and of course we have to mention the millions displaced wounded or or killed your next story from global research quite disturbing about syria or tel aviv pays al qaeda fighters the syrian what was worst kept secret that could actually become. a real nightmare as it is say israel is that it's helping and yes there are there are how do we know this it was documented person we have seen a lot of pictures of binyamin netanyahu the prime minister of israel visiting that syrian fighters opposition fighters fighters a little. bit of how does the israeli public cope with a photograph of prime minister netanyahu the knowing that he is helping and the israeli taxpayers helping soldiers they don't want hizbullah forces or maybe she's all syrian army to be closer to the golan heights border so if those people.
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four there isn't really why not. if they've managed to reach that order with their syrian army. militia financial support the militia i believe is that it will be will be in a very very position. thank you. eleven years ago today israel declared war on lebanon beginning a thirty three day conflict with hizbollah now fighting with u.s. and u.k. troops to combat isis and syria was victorious israel's weapons in the twenty six lebanon war was supplied by britain which bears responsibility for the belford declaration signed one hundred years ago while u.k. prime ministers raise amazes the balfour declaration as a source of pride it led to what the palestinians called day and the displacement of hundreds of thousands of people one of them was the poet and a story is recounted in a new play sharing now at london's young vic theatre i'm joined by the writer and star and director i mean is ours or everything's. going and we're it is amazing
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it's a one man show with it without restoring it and yet it was a double we're seeing hundreds of thousands of refugees drowning or risk in the mediterranean hundreds of thousands obviously a palestinian is a one man it's all distilled in a sense in this in this one poet what is a better way to understand a catastrophe many accept single izing one would be telling a story deep because in the refugee camps elaborate on the arab world where palestinians have been made refugees in forty eight each one of them is a complete person with a complete life and today with the syrian catastrophe looming and happening all around us and thousands of people hundreds of thousands of people being misplaced each of them is that each of them is a complete person with aspirations and dreams and and unsung talents that might be revealed later or not but every one of them is a complete person and we can. to forget that when we talk about big masses so
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actually reducing the prison in talking about one person and in the medium of theatre which is the most intimate of all mediums to tell a story to recount a story because we and the audience share the same space the same air we breathe that means that the audience and the performer are both the same creature and of course as i said earlier though i mean you you focus on one person in the driving history of britain says we should be celebrating the balfour declaration hundred years since the signing of it this year twenty seventeen i think balfour declaration it took the right from the palestinians to to be a nation and to have their state and independence which is you know until today we suffer like we palestinians who are citizens in israel and palestinians in the west bank but as you know in gaza and palestinians in the arab world are of refugees millions we are still suffering from balfour declaration and we we hope that
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you know the british government. would you know would make justice with palestinians and not celebrating balfour declaration because this declaration. was displaced and and was exhausted and here it was living in a you know different place from his origin a village and he got you know he had a very you know hard hard life to rebuild his life from this the killer is in the village is destroyed destroyed the disorder now there is a settlement chords. which is near its own the lands of for myself me i'm and i'm coming from the same same refugee family you know from other village which my grand brother rather my grandfathers was the same story of and this is you know this is started with but for the liberation like the the green line was to you know. about to happen that it was. this declaration which was
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people. maybe maybe their excuse could be ignorance because they're not watching plays like the ones you guys are involved it. talks about the b.b.c. educating them in these daily religion or to be before. before the forty eight and then later actually. what do you think make of the way mainstream media are covering these days i mean the b.b.c. did not cover was not banned even the raising of money for funds from the gaza conflict. recently would you think it made it you know in world press as a general rule our story has been overlooked and unjustified. portrayed for sure you know our narrative is the one that is not being put on the table openly. and i think a play like does big service for retelling our narrative from our perspective.
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you know news or segments of voice bites they're not they're not the reality in any way and the reality is always more complicated than what our t.v. or b.b.c. can cover at the same time. there is there is a need for balanced coverage but this is impossible because there is no balance in nature you know the history is one is written by the victors that was always the case. in today's world in two thousand and seventeen when you have. free press on line and you've got a completely. you know revolutionary way to get informed i think. our story will start seeping through because it's like water you know it will go to the first crack it finds and there's much more information out there maybe not yet in the mainstream media but will it will get to the mainstream media because there
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is there is no way of suffocating that story for so long world. will that really result in change on the ground i don't know we're not politicians we're theater makers. our responsibility is to tell the human stories as honestly as we can and as profoundly and. in the most complicated way to raise questions not to have answers if i'm honest i think having answer is about politics is always a reduction of who we are we are complicated you know. it and me are part of the palestinians who live inside the state of israel our relationship with the other is complicated it's not straightforward but that's great that's not a bad thing we spend our times working in the west bank. we have a very strong relationship with our palestinian diaspora that's who we are. trying to reduce the palestinians to a political headline is bad for the palestinians it's bad too for us. because it's
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reducing the way we perceive ourselves and that's the first thing that we need to fight against when we talk about occupation. thank you very much recovering old before america gives us a rendition of. just trying to tell you about the saturday which variously described as doldrums speak for us are about to go to the european union. leader will see you all saturday for the eleven years to the day of the birth of a rembrandt. revenge by mohammed ali the man who killed my father and raised our own expelling me to our oak tree. and if he killed me i would dressed up lost and if i were ready i would take my revenge but i would not to murder him if it were soon made clear that he had brothers or sisters those who loved him and constantly long to see him or if he
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had a wife to greet children who could into his absence but if he turned out to be on his own. like a branch from a tree without a mother or father with neither a brother nor sister wifeless without a child and without can or neighbors or friends colleagues or companions then i would not a thing to is within that aloneness i convinced myself that spaying him no attention in its soul was a cause for event which. the trump handshake of the g. twenty is now part of history while the reading appear to go well both presidents
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