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first. moscow says it may retaliate against washington's continued refusal to return seize russian property in the u.s. or allow more russian diplomats into the country artie's daniel hawkins has more. diplomatic scandals are as old as time itself and tit for tat expulsions of diplomatic workers are usually part and parcel of these events though this story dates back to december last year on the presidential election the outgoing obama administration allegedly to punish russia for those allegations of meddling in the u.s. election decided to expel thirty five russian diplomatic workers alone only that also to seize their diplomatic compound that's quite a big move in the world of diplomacy now at the time quite unusually president putin decided not to retaliate at all he said he'd rather wait and see how things would develop with the new incoming administration in fact he famously handed an olive branch to washington inviting the families of u.s.
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diplomatic workers here in moscow to celebrate christmas the kremlin it seems now that moscow's patience is finally running out today the foreign ministry spokesman there is a horrible made a statement describing what could happen next it's really near the problem of the border it's been half a year but we do not see any concrete steps from washington to resolve these issues however nothing impedes the new administration from showing independence and taking steps time is running out we do have ways to retaliate the personnel in the u.s. embassy in moscow greatly exceeds the number of our embassy staff in washington you know both marias are of r. and b. thirty percent off the presidential spokesman who have made very clear that this potential move is unrelated to any other differences political disagreements that the u.s. and russia may have it's linked purely to this ongoing scandal and they've also tried to very much emphasize that these measures this issue rather is flexible it's not set in stone. next on r.t.
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crosstalk chants with survivors of the unprovoked attack on the american naval ship u.s.s. liberty two years ago. hello and welcome to cross talk were all things considered i'm peter lavelle fifty years ago the american naval vessel u.s.s. liberty was brutally attacked by israeli forces the attack on the liberty was one of the worst assaults ever carried out on a u.s. naval vessel in peacetime and committed by an allied country since then the survivors of this unprovoked attack have been seeking justice.
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crosstalk in the u.s.s. liberty i'm joined by my guest ken o'keefe in new york he is a political analyst and the ex u.s. marine who renounced us citizenship in greenville we have philip nelson he is the primary author of remember the liberty as well as author of two books on lyndon johnson and in lake jackson we cross to daniel make out and he is the executive director of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate phil if i can go to you holding the book there in greenville you've written about this. just real quickly i know it's a there's a lot of detail in the book is been told is very good but a lot of our viewers have never ever heard of this event so could you in a nutshell tell us what happened fifty years ago in the mediterranean go ahead.
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well it's a long story and i'll try to condense it as best i can but it had to do with an attack that had been preplanned i believe for many months maybe two years in the planning yet it was it was portrayed as being a spontaneous war and that egypt had attacked israel. that was anything but the truth and and in fact since then most of the subsequent leaders of israel admitted that menachem begin for example admitted that others you talk are being admitted that that it was that it had been provoked by israel against syria jordan and egypt for many months the us everything came up the track when when the war commenced ten days early it was scheduled had been scheduled for months to start on june the fifteen it started on during the fifth because of all these provocations that works so effectively there was beyond there expects
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spectator ok ok ok but let's let's talk about the attack itself what happened how this ship was attacked by israelis give this you know five major points what happened on that day go ahead ok on that on that day after surveilling the ship for several hours about six or seven hours starting at six in the morning. up to thirteen at least twelve or thirteen overflights of the ship some as low as a thousand feet. by by different israeli aircraft. they were doing that for a purpose and i believe the purpose was to map out there exactly where the strategy where there was a poll that is what what vulnerable points ok additional data for ok phil so i want to get i want to get everybody in here because we got a lot to talk about here you know can.
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county in southern new jersey western gloucester county in southern new jersey until six thirty pm at three thirty two pm doppler radar indicated there are storms producing very heavy rain across portions of the warren area rainfall rates up to two inches per hour have been reported expect one thing in the areas of heaviest rainfall through the afternoon commute turn around don't drown when encountering flooded roads most flu deaths occur in vehicles. saying i'm not going to go to war or embarrass an ally for a few sailors so that was obviously from the top on down you know admiral admiral of the father of our great senator from arizona it's obvious he was involved in the cover up as well but make a good point earlier most of america doesn't know what happened i have to be honest i have to confess i didn't know anything about it until i was up on the hill probably fifteen years.
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a mistake this was an intentional attack and the implications of that attack so we feel to this very moment go ahead ken. yes indeed and there are court transcripts there are transcripts of tapes between israeli pilots and the command centers in israel in which the israeli pilots are actually squashed i mean the orders which are to attack because they understand very clearly that they are attacking an american ship and the orders are repeated by the command centers in israel to indeed attack the ship there is no accident here and where this becomes really relevant is that for a long time israel and the jewish supremacists how would it say tannic mass media that we have which pushes agendas like weapons of mass destruction which results in the death of a million to two million people in iraq a country completely devastated that same power structure remains in place from one nine hundred sixty seven to this day and the cover up of nine eleven and israeli mossad agents involved in nine eleven which is indisputable by any serious
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investigation remains the same in the real point here is that israel can do anything including murdering thirty four american service members in cold blood and attempting to murder every single member of the u.s.s. liberty so as to justify a policy which would have sucked american sons and daughters into a third world war because israel does not have the integrity nor the courage or any kind of author whatsoever to go and attack its enemies itself it uses america and continues to use america as lambs to go off and fight their wars so that israel can expand this is the bigger issue and the u.s.s. liberty as long as the american people refuse to face this and actually make sure that justice is served we're going to continue to get more of the same but these false flag endeavors to sacrifice more and more americans and let us not forget the twenty two american service members a day that commits suicide because they've been sent off to fight israeli wars and you know daniel and when i when i understand the lyndon johnson's reaction the president the time he was a coward he was simply a coward. he was
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a politicians don't take extra that saying sorry i mean that's a repetitive yeah go ahead. well you know there is their business unfortunate taint you know and i think it's one way of keeping the conspiracy of silence there's a taint of some sort of anti semitism if you bring it up you know i just met a liberty survivor in april he was at one of our conferences here and you know this man had not an anti-semitic bone in his body what he cared about when the people he served with on that ship when he cared about is having some acknowledgement of what happened some validation of their experiences for the historical record to be corrected that's what he's looking for and that's what's normal and that's the grotesqueness of this entire cover up is because it didn't allow these soldiers and these sailors to have closure that's why they suffer from p.t.s.d. times one hundred they couldn't even talk to their wives about it and that's the most cruel injustice i think of all ok gentlemen to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the attack
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on the u.s.s. liberty fifty years ago stay with our team. and it is i would not be here. if. you. paid. by then got a session on the nod that they know. by then is a shift the long. term not instead of. going on more. so.
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then the most of the was revealed to the multiple injuries among current america so for them to keep sophie hold the rope but shows real your mercy on the phone to the goldman book on the if you can book a political symbol to the sister you're welcome to book in a moral sense of what my. own admitted nothing of. off allowed me. somethin to work. on long enough something not set it. aside and lead to problems look ma that's what i can now maybe i maybe i'm a bit who are just so. in
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the us a child can choose a school. physicist teaches we don't. recruit well sister if the cadet is interested in going in the military or we don't recruit ourselves. the pentagon is funding a program to boost interest in the military among teenagers a chance to step up to an apollo so that also they point comfortable with yourself . things about yourself you can't go wrong with the military it's a great stepping stone for whatever creative you want to do but some veterans are willing to tell enthusiastic children a little more they ask me call of duty is very popular first your video game. it's play an ask me is not sound like call of duty can turn off the oh yeah well you
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can't turn off what lot of these kids just don't hear. the darker side does the pentagon allow them to be told or does it just need more recruits. the national weather service in mount holly new jersey has issued a severe thunderstorm warning for northwest and atlantic county in southern new jersey central salem county in southern new jersey camden county in southern new jersey gloucester county southern new jersey central burlington county in southern new jersey until four thirty pm it's three forty two pm severe thunderstorms were located along a line extending from point continue would step this way this borough moving east
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the severe thunderstorms include laurel springs valley glendora blackwood stratford pine valley collings leaks james bro clinton and hina prepare immediately for large and damaging winds one side should move immediately to shelter inside a strong building stay away from windows intense thunderstorm lines can produce tornadoes in widespread significant wind damage although a tornado is not immediately likely it is to move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building. that that israel could possibly benefit from such an attack a lot of things have been projected in that article you one of you mentioned and iraq's just two or three days ago. it was written by by people who and quoting michael oren who had been the previous ambassador from israel
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to the u.s. . he had written a book as well as a jay cristol both of them are filled with lies and deceit that were planted at johnson's order fifty years ago. and i'm going to go here i'm not understanding the president i can i please ask are you are you suggesting are you suggesting that israel was simply manipulated by lyndon johnson and that israel wasn't very much having a huge interest in getting america into a fight with egypt are you concluding that lyndon johnson manipulated israel or am i mistaken here forgive me if i am. i believe that that part of it was or was primarily advanced by johnson and johnson himself for his own personal reasons the by the way you have you have to remember that it was the fourth day of a six day war the war was essentially over that already. egypt they were they were
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having peace negotiations at the un well i mean phil you're the expert on it but it really is a lot of people would say is that taking out the u.s. is u.s.s. liberty we didn't i the americans knowing exactly what the israelis intended to do as that war was coming to an end ok and like taking illegally seizing arab territory palestinian territory the golan heights i mean there was a lot of the israelis didn't want washington to be listening to what their plans were at all it seems to me logic would dictate that. ok let me go to daniel but what i really like about it i have to. that is a theory that has been proposed ok i'm right and there are others and daniel let me go to you again i kind of want to stress you know that this is kind of a ground zero moment here because ever since one thousand and sixty seven we've been able to see you know it's wag the dog dog i mean our eyes do not understand
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the how america benefits from its bizarre close relationship with israel what does the u.s. get out of it what has it ever got out of it except for a lot of pain a lot of blood and a lot of wasted treasury go ahead daniel. well unfortunately you're right i mean the liberty liberty attack was sort of ground zero and what has become a very unhealthy relationship between the u.s. and israel it's a one sided relationship as you point out what i think the israelis learned that if they can do something like this go test with impunity they can do literally almost anything and unfortunately i would blame israel less than i would blame the cowards in congress the cowards in the administration the cowards in the media who are too afraid to question this for fear of being tarnished with some bad words they're afraid to do this you know members of congress have said behind the scenes you know gosh israel lobby is so strong they'll never go out in public and say you know it's
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it's it's it's toxic on a government and i think that's where the focus should be why are they so afraid they might lose their job they might get voted out of office you know it's pathetic you know you know can i i received a recall of congressman running for reelection saying you could never be too pro israel in a congressional election i think he's probably right. the i really need to pay my respects to the u.s.s. liberty survivor's guilt or any and all of those who know damn well that that attack was carried out by israel and i don't for one second that lyndon baines johnson is a first class traitor on many levels and a pervert to boot so i'm not in any way defending that traitor however to suggest that lyndon baines johnson manipulated the israelis into wooden tack for his own personal gains is insulting and absolutely contrary to the facts as i mentioned earlier their radio transcripts which are now a matter of public record in which the israeli pilots themselves are saying or
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questioning the order to attack what is clearly an american ship and the order is repeated to attack that ship so please don't tell me or anybody else that lyndon baines johnson manipulated that it is insulting now i'd like to get back to another point as well which is that of course as soon as we talk about the jewish state of israel and the jewish supremacists talmudic ideology which effectively pits all of us the rest of us the glory as cattle to be used and we look at the actual pattern the lavon affair the u.s.s. liberty and direct direct involvement in nine eleven in fact it was a joint operation between us intelligence and military and its rating mossad agents lists audience who were arrested on the day with explosives in their bands celebrating and high fives all of this on record israel has continued to get away with their false flag but it would order to use american sons and daughters as cattle to be sacrificed for their war and i really seriously resent the idea that
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lyndon baines johnson did this and manipulated israel i find that really disgusting and borderline treasonous myself no serious historian can seriously put that board and i imagine that book has one hell of a lot of tap dancing in it if indeed that's what it says phil not i don't know what percentage of the documents that have been released do you see that ever happening were yourself another. writers would have access to more of the documents because because it's made a long conspiracy i know that in two thousand and three that there was some kind of investigation it was admiral moore that was involved with that i mean when with do you think the public will ever have access to that or are you even convinced those documents even exist anymore well there was one document that does exist and it was discovered by accident by james innes when he was at the l.b.j. library of all places. which which was a document dated april the twenty seventh one thousand nine hundred sixty seven
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almost two months before the attack the clearly showed that that operation the larger operation not the attack on the liberty but the plans for the six day war which was called front let's six fifteen were discussed and somehow that document was misplaced and a virtually put into a file the liberty file that was at the l.b.j. library and missed by everybody until about nine hundred eighty eight when james arness discovered it he showed it on that video the b.b.c. video dead in the water and it shows that that that committee the three zero three committee it was called was discussing. the operation and that someone noted on that memo memorandum it was it was basically the minutes of this meeting. handwritten on there is that there would be a submarine and u.a.r.
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waters and the public that's egypt. and so how i mean that is positive proof that there was there was something on the agenda that was a continuing agenda item and who knows for how long because the rest of the documents have never been. released probably never will be and it hides the fact that it was that three o three committee headed up by walter ross dow and there were a number of other people of course this have the cia helms mcnamara they were all on this committee it doesn't mean necessarily that this other piece of it the u.s.s. liberty attack was was ever known to all of the people in that committee but certainly some of must have and then he had to let's talk about no it is that i have my resume together you have the other where we brought rapidly running out of time here daniel. what do you think give me your assessment here let's say somebody in
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middle america is flipping the stations and they suddenly see us talking about this what do you think the average response will be they'll probably think it's a movie or a docu drama i suppose go ahead daniel well they probably won't see it because to prevent arche from being seen in the in middle america but if they did they probably feel they were in a minefield that something that they've never. the national weather service in mount holly new jersey has issued a severe thunderstorm warning for southwestern newcastle county in northern delaware northeastern kent county and central delaware cumberland county in southern new jersey southern salem county in southern new jersey southern
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