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troop escalation in afghanistan and millions of lives around the world destroyed by climate change coming up in the first episode of this new season of going underground what's u.k. direction secretary david davis doing in washington today we speak to former n.e.p. and the father of british foreign secretary boris johnson about russia secret recordings money traps and attempted murder that might have surrounded the british but for bread and award winning author and foreign correspondent charles glass explains how we came in the past few days to an exchange of fire between u.s. soldiers and cia from the jihadists in syria and from the headlines we reviewed the building brinkmanship in the baltic and the fast food workforce the huge chip on his shoulder all the civil coming up in our first episode of the new season but first while we've been away there's been no letup in the continuous allegations that donald trump is somehow compromised by his relations to the kremlin not an hour goes by on u.s. mainstream media without questions being raised over ties between either trump or
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its closest associates to moscow while britain joins it militarily with trump's continuing escalations in afghanistan and russia's borders though it has been the rhetoric of a north korea that is alarmed many around the world for her part raise i'm a one would think needs tyner as opposed to trade and i decided to implicitly attack the people's republic not any apology for britain's role in the u.s. u.k. killing of twenty percent of north korea's population the communist global times newspaper of china replied by saying may's conservative party lost many seats turning are into a vulnerable prime minister weak people often look for opportunities to show their strength if the british government genuinely wants to protect its business and investment interests in the region it should speak and act cautiously rather than pointing fingers and making irrelevant remarks that doesn't sound too good for tourism a and it comes just as the murdoch sun newspaper splashed with a poll showing that conservative m.p.'s predict that their foreign secretary. boris
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johnson will be the next leader of the tory party a thinly veiled boris johnson appears in the new novel by no less a figure than his own father stanley johnson one of his sons is the foreign secretary another is an education minister and then compromise at the former member of the european parliament paints a hilarious picture of a world compromised by spies and dirty tricks and competing geopolitical power plays and the plan by a vladimir putin character to catalyze rex it joining me now is stanley johnson the wood winning author of the new political thriller compromise at soon to be developed into a major t.v. series stanley welcome back they're going underground to the book sleeve says in a time of fake news could compliment to be the first fake book but the characters in this book seem relatively young fake while as i say right at the beginning any resemblance these characters may be bad really cruel i learned the coincidental and i know as you know suggesting anybody who they might seem to represent you know
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would have behaved in the way these characters someone who needs a being on a reality t.v. station in the united states who goes to the president see a guy who loves something tigers in the russian forests who is the president a woman president of them and they're all based on this is his what you might call historical fiction you know if this is hillary mantell if she if she takes. the h.g. takes over him overcome thomas cromwell and you know just make well i want to think that i'm not using real people i'm doing invented people getting on with things up surely. i mean how did it come to you that president putin though would shoot all trump in the book so instead of a tiger to color it and they would contain the surveillance of us well i mustn't give too much away. on ad i will say that my absolute right evasion come january this year when i started thinking about the plot. i think i
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started writing for the fifteenth i finished the book by round april the tenth so it was a by real motivation was to say to myself look come on do not tell me that they have not and there's some dirty works at across races forest breaks it is concerned and as far as you know the election of the new us president suzanne when i say did it work in the process i'm not using that in a pejorative sense this is just i hope you have read this book african as a fun book i just read it as a it is funny not even to make any although there are so i mean the fact that you take this to the i don't say you because this is a novel it is a work of fiction the german john's like nicholas. says that nato expanding to russia's borders has been running off as been running off to ukraine the way a dog runs. off your bitch on heat i thought i had to get some sex in the book there's more sex than that in the book but that's that's my pro russia as i am in this case putting was in the mouth of my german chancellor ok and i would really
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not reveal to the viewers will have to pull out of now i would have thought that it is perfectly conceivable that a german chancellor might have thought that this constant pressure by the e.u. united to get georgia into nato to get ukrainians in a scare you know just get right up there against the borders of the military maneuvers right yeah you know i mean i don't think that was an un plausible statement and in any event. i have that statement right at the beginning of the book because i want to set up as it were the motive for pop off so launch what i am calling operation tectonic plate r.t. the way he takes control of the vote i'm going to see your pen america because even with the the implicit corruption allegations against the cameron government fiction i think anyone thought he could commit to a bricks and referendum because he could say no often or winning
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a general election all right because he had to team up with the liberal democrats that's the idea in the book anyway well i would not be the only person i who might have thought that yeah let's put in the commitment sort of in the manifesto not a first step because believe me you know that's not want the dems are going to let get through not only not i never lost my second son joe about this issue i've completely forgotten to ask him about this he was actually the man responsible for writing the manifesto by the way the man who sponsored vote writing the last manifesto of hope will bend gumma how to walk. the tightrope and i do mean won't reply and then he'll with the son of the former environment. so i'm pretty sure your son would deny me that kate although i do notice how you take sides in this book what does this mean or take kerry stokes the bully a blown head former mayor of london how he was absolutely living up to the high expectations people had of him wowing the crowds wherever he went he could be
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serious too if it was absolutely necessary who is this former mayor of london character in the books in his tutor who is absolutely as it were we will we will face that reality sometimes we absolutely we have to be serious well you are right . you know i said absolutely nothing of course will be that happy but as a who is this doc i'm not saying that that particular character is a million miles away from another member of my family whom you have. mentioned i'm not saying that and it is perfectly true. that there is a gentleman who was appointed foreign secretary by the incoming prime minister was called mabel killer who johns when taking office is there as a wonderful best of all possible use a tremendous opportunity broadsided up and you know he's a cheery guy he's a cherry guy he doesn't play a major role in the book but come on you know i like to give you would do is you but you do take swipes at this channel in it on t.v. yeah well that's what the f.s.b. video is and within the compliment of the night of the type of the book that some
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of the putin guys i can just put these videos on this channel i don't think that i may have heard and you know what a video has to be put on this and well i'm sure that i will take your word for it what i'm going to say is in real life it looks as. though the russian president has to pop off does shoot the american presidential candidate in the buttock with hypodermic dot but when it comes home and other. media that particular scene seems to have dropped or it's a tiger and then there is an important to put in context of the power not only of world leaders in china and in russia and the united states but the power of the media because you have in this book of rupert murdoch the rupert murdoch the is maybe taking over or. this is a very good point yes i mean in the end you have to say yourself what is there a mr big i mean if a mr peake is not the u.s.
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president if mr big is not the russian president who is the real mr peek in this modern world and maybe it is the murdoch tight fit with global news international and right at the end of this book if you have got to the end you will see there's a scene in which i have a sudden ambiguity as to whether my russian president will stand for reelection next year or not i leave it i leave it kind of in balance. because he's also being offered by mr big a mega mega drop which is taking over global news international it's not called that when he was international in the book is no different to what . you were doing nothing to do remember that when the attacks on the factories a lot of it happens in australia that are at a ranch that has nothing to do ultimately it's about a coincidence and he does the sign of jerry hall in this but there is a limit here that i don't know i first time we were in a program together was many years ago that was when they were representing iranians leaving stalin that but jerry. was on that program and we got him eating
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a lot of him because. in this book you're pretty clear about. washington doubting the allegations about the launch of chemical attack in syria well i know obviously i follow the newspapers i follow the president follow television so i have yes he is i heard she was a very good man he is i mean he wrote a book about kennedy as i recall he took the lead office of the my lai massacre but in this book a very clear that people are saying ok put it out there maybe an excuse to bomb syria but the chemical attack is no i am merely saying on that particular because it it's an intriguing moment when my newly elected president who's called ronald craig called dongs that would be too close to reality all wrong wrong to create he had the florida white house which i'm not calling macho i think i'm calling it has to live easter and to live. free in context is not actually know any of his true
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but it is true that he's not the crack on which i think. he took one hundred percent sure that they had the syrian government. but i did go out right now and he's always being attacked in the mean the president and i believe and not not sort of boring and off i didn't want to buy rachael so
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best try to read such rubbish in the times a couple of days ago complete rubbish this lady which is talking about this was the stuff but he wanted to be leader of the complete nonsense complete nonsense they are literally like having my promise you he's a. star so i'll be on. well if you know which of the people can see read the time you take time and take your time. i want to say it's on the in the bookshops now as well compromise is available at all good. tragic geopolitics thank you after the break why have you. been firing at. moderate syrian rebels and why do. we get the answers from award winning. news minute a minute counts not. trouble.
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this is what happens to pensions in britain. dropping bombs brings to the chicken hawks the battle. to tell you the. most important. thing on the pool and. we. will.
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i. want to. welcome back you don't hear anything about syria from britain's dres m a anymore even though she was recently telling us that the lives of british servicemen and women were a price worth paying to overthrow its government meanwhile it appears the donald trump's troops have just been firing on the cia funded free syrian army championed by drazen may end blairite labor m.p. he's opposed to german corbin who better to get on the line now than award winning
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foreign correspondent and author of syria burning charles glass as the legacy of british support for jihadists in syria manifests itself in the millions of refugees who now live lives of desperation because of nature's policies on syria he joins me now from exon province in france charles thanks for coming back on the show in this season started going underground c.n.n. reporting just recently that in the past few days there's been an exchange of fire between u.s. troops in syria and so-called turkish backed syrian rebels no recognition in that c.n.n. report that those rebels had anything to do with nato bossie what did you think of the. well it was inevitable that there would be clashes between the forces backed by turkey and the kurdish forces backed by the us because the us has been using the kurdish groups one of the main kurdish groups in syria to retake territory from the
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islamic state but the turks are not approved of this because they don't want armed curves anywhere in the region especially in turkey but certainly not on the border or on its border with syria. and no one really talks about what the implications there for nato because that's don't trump actively supporting a group who are the enemies of ankara there always seems to be an understanding that at least in terms of supporting the kurds in iraq the turks simply had to accept it because the u.s. had strategic interests in iraq when it comes to syria where the u.s. has fewer interests the turks a few more able to disagree with united states. and also with issues of course on the ground there was so much news brought to bear here in britain to try and persuade the british public to war to aerial bombardment of assyria by the royal air force do you think there is a may that alone the enemies of german corbin as they were bloody know who they support in syria today where it seems that pretty much everyone including the
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united states britain and france has come to an acceptance that the war is winding down and that the regime is winning and that means withdraw support of the saudis the saudi foreign minister told a delegation recently that saudi arabia is losing interest in syria it's concentrating on its conflict with qatar the two again ians are tired situation it's been going nowhere since march of two thousand and eleven the western powers turkey saudi arabia and qatar have all been trying to overthrow us and syria and they clearly favor trump for for better or worse as recognised as it's kind of the cia training and funding programs for militants who are fighting us many of whom became shoddy militants who all who are just as happy to fight in our states and are to fight us and the program is coming to an end and this is a signal to american allies that there are they too should think about cutting back their support for this cutting of the cia funding does it have
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a precedent of the i mean in effect you think all these assets so-called cia assets have just been burned by this sudden trump policy with the. stroke of a pen to stop funding over many precedents for us dropping allies didn't work out nine hundred seventy five when the us was supporting a rebellion by kurds against saddam hussein when they pushed the shah and saddam to come to an agreement on the shuttle out of water way to the shah's favor and saddam was then given a green light to remaster credit cards henry kissinger said at the time that politics is not missionary activity my fear of the current syria is that as the war does come to a conclusion that the us will abandon them and allow the trucks to deal with them on that without any interference that's a possibility i hope it doesn't happen say the kurds the big aka suddenly in terms of economic philosophy that some people think it's of the neo marxist movement really not that akin to door trail to know it was well behaved turkey traditionally
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it was a communist movement but it is moved on a great deal in those states particularly since because of the fall of communism and also because of a dollar on the leader of the p.k. who is a true christian has and sells come up with new policies new ideas and was very much in favor of a ceasefire with the turkish government didn't want to pursue an armed struggle with the the kurds of syria are not case any of them that have received support from their allied but they are not in fact. ok let's move to iran trump has been very vocal about his opposition to iran but yet all of his policies would you say have basically held iran. well it seems that every time someone wants to freeze the iranians out of a country all they end up doing is bringing the iranians in more deep look for example when the us overthrew saddam hussein the iranians were the main that sure
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is because the parties that they did supporting ears including a terrorist movement called that ended up taking power of the country much further to the detriment to the us in that and. probably to the fury of many iraqis in in in the latest wrangle with one of the things that the saudis were upset about in the us as well was that qatar had a respectable relationship with iran mainly because they share a gas you need to kill with each other. but because the saudis close the border of the countries had to turn to iran for a stronger trading relationship in order in order for their economy to thrive. trying to drive the iranians out is has been counterproductive again and again and again and you don't think anyone in the state above and realizes that cutting no less than the budget for the lebanese army paid for by the us taxpayer is also going to mean a strengthening of hezbollah which of course is allowed to tear on. well i'm sure
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there are people the state want to know this very well unfortunate state department . people who are out of rational view of what's going on in the region have rarely been listened to some people have an immediate logical axe to grind and they see punishing that punishing qatar as a way out in forcing their view of the world that you has no place where iraq although you're on is an important player in the region it's not going to go away it's probably better to understand it and manage its role in the region rather than . if i didn't make it strong i'm assuming there is no iranian secret agent that's running u.s. foreign policy in washington who has an asset is that not been disclosed yet as you say qatar and iran just in the past few days restoring diplomatic relations i mean trump has really been good for terror while he hasn't and obama was as well and so
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was bush they all to your audience are are not are not fools they are they're very clever get asked and name despite the relative weakness of their play their hand out well i mean britain has been growing its relations with with iran but just what about the british backed rebels in syria does britain now face of increased terror threat as the syrian war winds down as you describe it well i'm not sure who specifically the syrian backed rebels are there are western backed rebels and the british and all the training as much as united states has but there are no specific groups that i know. claim to be british born in the area and just on and on turkey this nature member the recent polls at seventy two percent. in a poll said that the united states is the number one security threat symptomatic of this us policy of supporting the kurds. well i think it's partly that you might find a neutral would be reflective why i don't think. thank you. well
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with me now is more culture from a liberal democrat member of parliament member to make them better i got to ask you first of all what you made of bricks it's actually david davis in washington trying to sell britain. britain if united states if you compare the behavior here of people towards him in the way it's going in america i base kind of one way ticket to stay there i'm sure he's got a return ticket anyway shuttle certainly goal in norfolk today to commemorate the repeatedly longest running strike in history to school would be nine hundred thirty nine you've got a strike right at the top of your first paper here this is this is fresh on the oven this strike the guardian says mcdonald's workers to coordinate strike with allies around the world by a group of an. early i think we're trying to do that other burgers are available not great not great but this is a great thing because mcdonald's seems to be amassing the i are not just of its own workers but others coming out in sympathy for
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a ten pound an hour minimum wage they say they're just not being treated right and people are coming to this country from abroad in order to support that strike and it's international i hear but you obviously never eaten it is it a great the cheese on if they use a slice it was a crime of it was a term of expression as the burger as far as i understand it easy and it was recently a film about a complete pro big mac. and i sort of anyway what's wrong with that every country anyway vietnam national day and you of your next piece from time about another successful united states war yes time says the pentagon admits there are a lot more u.s. troops in afghanistan than we thought the statistics have been all wrong five hundred british servicemen and women doing us proud well that's that small drop of the data this what we're talking about here is an official estimate for a specific five thousand. two hundred sixty two troops have been consistently based in iraq around is more than seven thousand in afghanistan they're talking about
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roughly fifteen thousand troops that's what's likely to turn up there. even to lower a bomb or officially have a limit of eight thousand four hundred and the current president donald trump said he wanted to get out of all of that because of the cost in money and lives well it all seems to be changing so two things to explain here why is the most isolationist condit becoming one of the most aggressive presidents of the united states and secondly how could they miscount this badly it's pretty shocking afghanistan very easy water wind and with these in brad pitt in the recent film about sally mcchrystal clearly shows a wonderful u.s. policy toward iraq and it can't win it i mean you can't if he's acting as the person and you're a stony and that's what he does james military spooky story idea what ferentz or indeed a sturdy enough and this story here is nato declares and hans forward presents battle groups for the operation what does that even mean it basically means that enhanced is good there in her because just for president battle groups they'd be uninhibited hans's the literally in the capital f p that's how they write it jane's
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three sixty very reliable source so these figures in my judgment go to your m i six really make your case in this you're so wrong about anyway so we're going to launch a new war with russia if our option if jaynes three sixty says it's true it probably is it was jane it wasn't a person but anyway a go anyway or maybe it was actually. all the old cartoon strip from the first second world war it may or may not be but i think you're probably wrong on the serious import here is that there's a build up of troops along the baltic line between the west the european union states latvia the theory and the stony and the russian state as well this is a real saber rattling exercise and michael fallen says there are going to be typhoon fighters there as well. you know why what are they good thing to do there to start their there validating. there weapons it's just not my copilot assad must go that maybe i don't want to say next putin moscow prince will be scared because
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there are eight hundred troops wandering about on the other side of the river in a town called nada in all seriousness a russia twenty four camera crew this week came under fire from a back ukrainian government good idea how long is putin going to allow this i think some people may be asking you know well he may have something up his sleeve the possible invasion of poland i kid you not that's one of the the rumors now because of the the battle group exercises a rumor going around it well it's not just a bunch belew says well it's all going on their part in the ukraine so when the west sends troops to guard the border it's a defensive action when the east has a practice that's a potential invasion you really don't think russia imminently want to invade and that's what's going on you know i don't ok all right sixty years you know on monday since the wolfen didn't report that to the decriminalization of sexualities are people now realizing actually that report was all of a big deal but something to celebrate but you picked some story here which doesn't seem to show more than day britain in as good a light as it's a sample of one but the u.k.
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says police are searching for this man after a homophobic attack outside of newcastle proper the story itself is another example of the fact that the same kind of things that happened in the past are recurring sixty years on from that a lot of people are saying that they metropolitan media they live around london go to some central london everything's fine they've got the money the rest of the country. well as i say equitable it's a rights and. it's a sample of one here but there is underlying furby in the country as well as racism so britain tries to be tolerant the laws are there the mindset of some way to go including i'm sorry to say in some parts of london thank you that said for office joke of the new season but we'll be back on monday when we speak to award winning playwright drugs or madras university level to say about jim cartwright the road which describes the alleged destruction of britain by margaret thatcher's government till then people. by social media with the olympics forty seven years to the day the socialist leader salvador allende was elected president of chile before
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if the. state department is now conducting a search of russia's trade mission in washington after ordering it to be closed for the move saying that it's a clear violation of international law. we are witnessing an example vandalism you need to match the missions it's an illegal take old michael crushing corporate c.e.o. we haven't been expecting says she's going to give us something we don't flog him down. to the russian diplomatic sites are also to be short the clothes also on the orders of the state department further aggravating the ongoing diplomatic spat between washington and moscow.

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