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metal protection agency approved unregulated material nala a pesticide that according to mint press nudes is currently banned in the in the european union to the unacceptable risk it presents to human health like the people of east texas and florida haven't had enough risk in their lives lately now we're going to start pouring pesticides on them. i think it's time to start watching the hawks. but you get the. real deal with. the plot of. what the like you know i got. the. lyrics. for the watch in the harks i am tired robot
and i talk a lot so i would love to have you had a good cup of pesticide yet this morning not this morning but i have been sprayed by these things years ago living and when i was living in new york city the west nile virus was going around and so they were spraying these big trucks. through the streets near central park where i lived and they were spraying and i got out of a cabin sucked in a whole cloud of this stuff and was very ill the next day called the city and they said it was the least like thing that they could spray because of the west nile so i'm not surprised that they're sort of skirting the isn't safe is it because you know at least least toxic you know it's always about excuse or say well it's always there like well it's the least toxic like you say it's the less toxic but i mean we could spray on people just to kill bugs right malaria is bad of course right you know zico is bad these things are all you know there are many horrible things that are spread by mosquitoes spraying more toxic stuff i don't know that that's actually the best iranian already having trouble with exploding chemical write.
letters or water in the air. in the blood was throw up you moron why an idea of probably you know ok i'm served on the road already but i don't know if doubled. it will be a drowsy interesting thing though it is a good debate because look knowledge and knowledge. for use in the u.s. and hundred fifty nine years old school is sold with the brand name. chemical corporation has been the major manufacturer. here again here's where the debate comes your trust of the e.p.a. . in the u.s. contends that one applied according to label instructions e.p.a. there's not expect the use of knowledge for public mosquito control to raise a human health concern people are unlikely to breathe in the most large enough or touch anything with an open sock decide on it to harm them however the european
union disagrees with b.p.'s was under the european union so they got together and said i don't like this. but the two is just sitting there making plans about how to get a chemical that certain main concern right now apparently it's like everybody else if you're going to side someone it must be part of some larger conspiracy is there complicity how about works the in the european union has very strict guidelines for assessments on certain anything toxic chemicals pesticides in these things and the idea is that they have come up with a system that if it doesn't if they set up a set of scenarios and it's not safe for people all day and they can't sell it what they say is the assessment has demonstrated that bio sidle products containing knowledge cannot be expected to satisfy that satisfy the requirements laid down in article five of directive ninety eight which is what we're talking about the scenarios of valuating the human health risk assessment as well as in the environmental risk assessment showed a potential and unacceptable risk what they said was. look at high enough
concentrations this can cause dizziness they can cause. confusion convulsions and death death in a high enough concentration high enough concentrations but according to the centers for disease control and prevention. these are at levels that normal you know far higher levels than any license person would be able to spray in any one given area or one time however when you're looking at a place like houston are we going to have the e.p.a. and the centers for disease control down there making sure that no area has slightly more than what you're allowed or that the concentrations aren't you know because it's not like the government has made mistakes in the past when it came to using chemicals on people i mean especially those wouldn't be around unless there was people saying no it's fine for everybody it's totally you know it's not ok for the people entering the actuary's and they're dropping like flies it's great for everyone to do you think was used they used to spray it on kids in the streets right namely with those parents and everybody is out of our little mini cans or
just put it on you know but i'm old enough to remember when they actually sprayed us with poison to keep miskito is the way i carry it out there are these elements to it makes you question and it's good to question these kind of things especially when you don't see one thirty jets are going to be like lying over the branston in east texas area drop in this stuff like your classic. it really doesn't have a very the government's going to put chemicals on planes that are bad for people and probably toxic and spray them all over a whole city yes this is what's happening. i mean they're talking about six they're going to spread this a they're estimating over six million acres of war and now the air force says that their system their planes system that disperses this dispersant droplets that would amount to less than one shot got a shot glass for the area the size of a football field so it's not nearly enough but we don't know that i mean look at the end of the day i think it's right to ask the question i hope they're going to do it safe i hope that this is totally you know
a procedure that we're not going to find out thirty years from now just gave everybody in that area some horrible form of cancer god knows what but on the flip side it might not be like leaves only humans now it is lethal to a lot of bugs species is oh oh. we don't have a problem with those going to explore an international university published three papers since two thousand and eleven about this they've talked about toxicology and chemistry of science of total environment and found that butterflies are even more susceptible to this knowledge than so to things that we're desperately trying to save and they're both. for that for. thousands of indigenous brazilians live in the last amazon rain forest this far away from the horrors of modern society as they are from their fellow brazilians these ethnical ethnically and culturally distinct community is known as an active people are lost tribes abound in brazil
a number in the hundreds traditionally brazilians here valued a value their remote neighbors and there's even a government agency called snotty meant to protect them in their native lands but not everyone is on the same page apparently as recent reports reveal brazilian prosecutors and fish oils are bringing charges against a group of coal miners who according to reports massacred ten tribe members they encountered looted and mutilated their bodies and then bragged about their adventurous and a bar so hot washers is this just an isolated incident of road brutality or is there something more here than meets the eye you know that's a great question and i think that if you're going to put that question to me in my own opinion i think the one they do. over and over again draw is human history both in contemporary history today and you know ancient history yesterday that we never you know the invading force coming in to take expensive things from the land is never good to the indigenous peoples never you know when i hear reports like this
investigations like this it breaks my heart because here you have an indigenous people it's proven true here you have an indigenous people untouched by all the crazy how but we're surrounded by still isolated in a forest you know living the way they did brought hundreds of years. thousands and what have you is a how much process of gold miners people stripping the land of its value and these gold miners basically probably eagerly mining by the way. it is called climbers they can kill them and later get caught because i guess it's bizarre they way they the group of gold miners bragged about how they encountered the group of made hips legs and killed them all up some of their clothes and jewelry as artifacts and then chopped up the bodies and dumped them in the amazon river amazonian river so they wouldn't won't bow as their thinking is that if we chop them up in the piece i mean that is what big deal is to me and honestly that says a lot if there is a company behind these people that says a lot about how we train people and how we train people to deal with
native peoples and also the region that you're trying to extract you know well but like i said it doesn't surprise me because we've been in the region that the bigger more advanced society goes into to extract wealth from usually ends up destroying. in just a violent ways the indigenous people of that region and this is you know it's one of those things where how much is politics how much is natural a sort of societal issues and how much is greed and that's the big that's the where you get into the big picture i mean look the brazil the group that you mentioned the were nine. they've lost their funding they've had their funding cut by seventy five percent in the last two years their whole as they go to keep these people save keep these tribes is safe and they've had their funding cut now why i travel why on earth would this group have their funding cut if i told you it was about
a politician wanting to stay in office and for money would you be surprised no matter what i would be surprised if they do tell me how well according to many sources they mean the narratives and one of they even said this that brazil's president is blue. so deeply unpopular. and mired in scandal that he's had to rely on on certain industries one of them is mining mining and agriculture to sort of remain in power and keep him protected from this corruption investigation and as part of the deal he is sort of forced to hire people from these industries and allow land and deforestation concessions so do the do that you know do these tribes stand a chance when industries who would most like to see them wiped out and controlled by the government i mean that's because here you have somebody who's being shady to stay in power so he's getting into shady business for shady people and making concessions that are putting the lives of these uncontracted peoples that are
supposed to stay that way yes that was the point as though we also don't bug them we just stay that way and will preside over and that it was all to do they don't want it don't want that they don't need it they don't need the rest of us. but this is one of those things that's indigenous peoples you come in you take and even in a place like brazil where we don't think about this but a lot of european college is a lot of colonies went in there there's a lot of imperialist stick situations that happen and this is this is how this ends up happening they're still going out there you know metaphorically raping the land and that money that is being taken should be spent to make sure these people and their homes are protected period i mean it's not my country but we we don't do it here either we're not doing enough for our indigenous peoples and clearly this is what happens they want to give away land put pipelines mine it take whatever they can strip out of a little boy why why do we move these ancient peoples it was beautiful. you know why do we need that anymore why russia battles in human life holes of gold and oil
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if you've ever had a desire to see the north pole and have twenty thousand dollars in your checking account you might just be in luck the russian arctic class nuclear powered icebreaker fifty years of victory offers to take adventurous eco tourists on such a rival trip has a storied history having. previously transported the olympic torch back from the north pole for the two thousand and fourteen winter olympics but for those of us lacking in funds or vacation day is despair not because environmental journalists that we're now boxing commentator karen mulvaney made the trip so we don't have to they're going to weigh in on the pros and cons of eco tourism the state of our polar ice caps and the intersection of climate change and politics of any joined our show or earlier take us you know it's really really interesting to talk to because this fifty years of victory there isn't a cruise ship it's a working ship that works in the arctic and much of the year it's trying to carve a path through the ice container vessels and cargo vessels and just for a couple of months a year it does this north pole trip for passengers and so these are pretty hardened
mariners right there russians are not very sort of emotional about these things but the captain himself did say to the cops and i mean you've been doing this an awfully long time i think it's twenty five years and he's been sailing in the arctic and he's not a man who's completely convinced of the causes of climate change he did say look it's very different now than when i started there's a lot more open water the ice is a lot thinner and that's absolutely what we saw you know with our own eyes when we were going up there you know you'd expect slates in the summer for that to be lots of patches of open water but what really struck us was in the ice looks. well then i guess the next obvious question is what are the what are the short term and long term f.x. so this kind of polar ice melting that we're seeing down there which we were more and about and scientists have been warning about mourning about and worry about now we're physically seeing it how can that affect the rest of the world. well obviously well it's very interesting question actually so obviously there are there
are local and regional impacts particularly. go on the wildlife obviously for ice dependent species for polar bears the seals the walrus is potentially very significant in terms of the broader impact. that you can look at them in all kinds of different ways so for example as ice melts and becomes thinner and becomes more easily navigable of course governments of the likes of canada and russia in the united states less so but china also they don't look at this and say what a terrible situation it's that we've caused how can we fix it they look at it as an opportunity to actually transport more goods through the northwest passage of the northeast passage or even across the top of the world so what they're looking at doing is perhaps taking advantage of this and making another couple seaway or of course also exploiting further oil and gas resources that have had to have been beneath the ice and sort of exploiting it that way so that's one possible consequence there's another interesting possibility and ways in which it might be
affecting climate elsewhere so for example there's so there's an arctic circle. that essentially keeps a lot of the cold air in the arctic there is a theory that what is happening is the ice melts then. decreases that is to say there's less heat being reflected more heat being absorbed and what then happens is hot air rises it disrupts that sir that current is going around the arctic unless what we talk about when we when we talk about you know these huge arctic gusts of arctic weather coming down into more temperate zones and that is why for example that you could be in new england and suffering very very cold winters and it being a consequence of climate change. you know one of the interesting in. your article that i didn't really kind of know existed to you took part of it was this kind of tourist trade. as you mentioned earlier of this working vessel but you
know kind of brings. people to the north pole. and one of the elements is the kind of pros and columns. i guess eco tourism. how is that affecting the read. and what all those pros and goes yeah i mean. the obvious cons are really you know whenever you have any kind of human presence in an area where there hasn't been human presence you're going to have some kind of impact especially if you go there in an extremely large ship breaking through through the ice and especially that ice is vulnerable and you have wildlife populations that are hops being stressed already it's a change because of a change in climate among other factors so. i will say i was genuinely very very impressed by the expedition star staff and expeditions they were very. cognizant of their desire to try to limit the immediate impact there is an international body
that regulates the activities of organizations that take tourists up into these fragile arctic environments they do very much try to buy those those guidelines you know if you would say that the produce potentially and this is this is what's often advanced as an argument in favor of eco tourism is that if people see these environments they going to care about the middle of a lot more it's very easy to read an article by the arctic or by the antarctic or indeed anywhere else in the world you think that's pretty cool but the experience of actually being there is something entirely different and one would hope that what you end up creating are evangelists who can then go and talk about how remarkable this area is and how much we need to protect this kind of an intangible benefit though right it's not measurable you certainly just want to hope that that's the case and that's what happens and in many cases you could definitely see that with the people on board that they were really impressed never to be there are always some who are just there to take boxes and then go on to the next thing and you're not going to convince them at all but the sense of what the pro is apart
from anything else that the more that people understand and see something the more they're going to care about it most of the united states this last week speaking of this when you see if i had my understand the united states this week you know we. in the last two three weeks we've been hit by two major herd possibly a third and now the argument is almost immediate of whether it's climate change or whether it's not climate change and what does that mean and what you have is you are saying some of the passengers aboard the victory are some of the sailors on there just don't believe it or don't believe that that's what it's kind of having an effect on that why do you believe that this kind of blinders or denial still is so prevalent and widespread even for those directly experiencing effects i mean you have people who are seeing it where a tourist will see hey i get it there's a change why aren't there some of the people that are right there in front of it
and. you know it's really interesting. you know there's been studies of you know the kind of people who do climate change science some people who don't believe it because the people who they respect. tell them not to believe it for whatever agenda purposes they might have it's also a very frightening concept right the notion that we. it's one thing to be able to say yeah i'm mad we're having this impact on this national park through this building with something that's tangible the notion that we can actually alter earth's climate and that we are doing it ourselves through the very lifestyle choices that we like living and having. i think that that's very hard for some people to take and so consequently rather than kind of address it sometimes it's easier to just put the fingers in the years and pretend it's not happening. often there is not always but often that can be to some extent
a religious component to there are certainly you know evangelical christians for example are among those that have been the most resistant to the notion of this because it runs counter to the concept of of god being in charge of the planet and being able to tell you what happens to the planet but how can we be more powerful than god. you know there are all kinds of different psychological reasons as to why people are don't want to believe it and then of course there's the more practical reasons that you have for example fossil fuel industries you have big businesses that choose to not believe that it's in their interest to have people not believe in the same way as the interests of big tobacco people not believe that cigarettes cause lung cancer. quickly i ask you actually what was the moment in your life when you kind of. saw the oh this is an actuality you know this is it was do remember the moment when you know apart from maybe reading your or whatever and you really kind of fully felt the impact of. climate change first. climate change specifically
i don't know that i do you know it's kind of funny i came across something that i wrote a long long time ago recently about thirty years ago that i wrote just a general kind of environmental piece and it focused quite a lot on what was you know one. the bigger issue is the time and remains an issue tropical deforestation remember and it's funny to come across as i put little footnote in there all almost to the extent that some scientists even believe crazy as it sounds that we're able to start controlling the climate or affect the climate through burning coal and oil and at that point it was almost like a crazy aside and i'm not sure when that came a point that i was ever really struck by it actually. it's just been one of those things i think that i've been fortunate enough that perhaps i've been able to be somewhat aware of it for a longer period of time and i've had the very concerned good opportunity good luck to speak with a lot of scientists who've been studying this for a long period of time i think that's one of the issues top of that to get back to
your point not many people know scientists so if you know scientists you know how scientists operate not even necessary just climate scientists you get a sense that these are not people who go along to get along and make a fast buck you realize these are people who are interested in the truth and argue for sit for a sleep with each other until they get as close as they possibly can to the truth and i think when you're exposed to science it's a great deal and like i said i've been very fortunate that that's what a lot of my life has been you get a much greater understanding not only of specifically climate change but how scientists are able to come to the conclusions they come to on climate change it's not magic it's not a religion it is a carefully pieced together theory. when the imperial college of london discovered fossilized space dust for me only ninety million years ago and the famous white cliffs of dover along the english countryside they may crack the code of long term space travel so it's estimated that twenty to thirty thousand metric tons of cosmic dust enters or up the rabbits for every year on year ten percent is thought to
reach the earth's surface and the ones that do are rarely ever found these micro meteorites are less than a millimeter in size and normally melt into satirical drops as they travel through the atmosphere forming quite beautiful. dendrite den triptych crystals but the micrometeorites founded by the imperial college of london in dover weren't spheres the cosmic dust was an altered there are now coming up with ways to test for clay water and other things inside the dust while you well we could use the info information to track asteroids and comets that down the road human explorers in space could use as stops on long trips and as a kind of natural filling station in space so the glittering extraterrestrial death did cliffs of dover whether there will be blue words over it for that you'll just have to wait and see. and you will end tragically our show has come to an atom so you'll have to tune in and wait and see tomorrow talk about them. over the bay
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