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headline stories this hour washington hold closed door talks on the conflicts in syria and ukraine. with the u.k. media is about speculation over the bombing suspects says c.c.t.v. footage appearing to show the. more than eighty arrests are made during a third consecutive night of violence in the u.s. . not guilty of murdering.
from moscow to the world this is r.t. international always good to have your company i'm you know neal welcome to the program our top story russia and america's top diplomats have met at washington's request for the first time since relations plunged to what's been described as a post cold war low our new york correspondent killam up and has more on what's. during their forty five minute conversation. russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov and u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson held a meeting on the sidelines of the united nations general assembly now the meeting was initiated by the american side the issues discussed specifically were syria and ukraine in syria there are accusations being leveled by the united states that u.s.
backed rebel forces were directly attacked by russia now russia says that these rebel forces were not attacked that rather it was only ice still forces that were attacked but the area in question the issue is the city of darryl's or it's important to know that this is taking place as there have been breakthroughs in the negotiations in russia iran and turkey have actually reached a breakthrough a document has been released and deescalation zones are actually being a stablished in the country and the northwestern regions of syria in the province and elsewhere we're actually starting to see breakthroughs in deescalation zones in the country be a stablished as a result of the negotiations that are taking place in kazakstan between the three parties now it's also important to note that another issue that was discussed was the issue of ukraine and of and rex tillerson discussed implementing the minsk agreement for peace and deescalation of tensions in ukraine there's been ongoing
fighting in ukraine in the east in the donbass region and the u.s. secretary of state and the russian foreign minister did discuss the possibility of implementing the agreement and making sure there were no tension. last week the u.s. secretary of state admitted the level of trust between washington. and new lows but middle east expert risk thinks the trumpet ministration still wants to improve pressure and will too. with develop an suv zero original syria reaching a sensitive thirty years particularly in the eastern region the close of the border with iraq i think that the americans thought that it was very important to focus on the fact that there should be another call in the collisions whatsoever i think it also points out to the facts which is an important issue to trumpet ministration despite the congressional pressures that you know despite the presence of the russian voices in the administration such as. us about sort of to your way to mr
trump doesn't appear to have given up but it seems that misty on his efforts to improve the toys between the u.s. and russia although how much will be successful is something which is open for debate as well as well as the sideline talks between russia and the u.s. focus on the u.n. general assembly this week is likely to be on the korean peninsula last week the u.n. security council unanimously passed the resolution on new sanctions against pyongyang the document was hailed as a quote victory of the pro mysie however donald trump didn't see it that way calling it not a big deal the u.s. president is talking about possible reforms to the u.n. that the general assembly right now. reports on washington is hinting it's pretty much exhausted every diplomatic possibility on north korea really sort of sounds like the military option is sort of becoming the frontrunner for them we've
had the american ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley saying that she feels that the united nations security council has really already done all that they can when it comes to north korea and that she's really already prepared to hand off the crisis to the u.s. secretary of defense adding that in that situation north korea would be quote destroyed and that's something we have coming from a diplomat i said yesterday i'm perfectly happy kicking us over to general man. because he has plenty of military options if the united states has to defend itself or defend its allies in any way north korea will be destroyed and we all know that and none of us want that none of us want war so there we have haley saying she's happy to hand it over to mattis and not long ago we had he himself describing briefly what that would sort of look like what a military option with north korea would look like and very best words saying that the response would be both effective and overwhelming any threat to the united states george territories including. or our allies will be met with
a massive military response the response both objective and overwhelming we are not looking to the total annihilation of a country namely north korea but as i said we have many options to do show and in the same light many remember all of the comments that we've had from trump himself fire and fury and whatnot and amid those threats that we've heard coming from the president he's repeated a number of times that talking with north korea just isn't going to be effective not really diplomatic words that we have coming from the president himself and on sunday trump also referred to the north korean leader as rocket man and the tweet comments that are unlikely to go without a response and it's worth noting that while some in the trumpet ministration are still hopeful for a diplomatic solution calling for it it does seem that the focus has sort of shifted from that as sort of like an afterthought and going more towards the
looming military option we heard from the cold funder of the national campaign to in the korean war who sees pyongyang could be ready for a diplomatic solution if the u.s. presence will. it will not negotiate the nuclear weapons unless the u.s. sends its hostile parle policies toward the d.p. r. k. so consequently you've got two sides in a tug of war and that we're left with very little option other than considering fire and fury and in reality that shows not only a lack of creativity but arguably violates our commitments under international law as well the idea that in a tug of war you have to let go of one end of the road you have to have the courage to do that and then use creative aspects of conflict resolution to get the job done . the ukase media has been left somewhat speculating
after the arrest of a second suspect in the london underground explosion there is little known about the two individuals being questioned london's mayor said he can confirm police have yet to hunt out any charges there have been two arrests significant arrests of the police to continue their investigations or just at the site where the room where the people used to live with the rest of eight but you'd appreciate the suspects no charge she's yes. let's get more on this suspect and cross live to see a churkin who's been following developments in london. well it really hasn't been difficult has it finding information on the two suspects in the media but whether it's true unverified information that's another story. well you can certainly despite a lot of the official information yet to be confirmed we have certainly seen the press here in the u.k. really be of buzz with alleged details on potential suspects now certainly they've
been focusing their attention on two men specifically one of them an unnamed eighteen year old man said to have been for all of iraqi origin the media here in the u.k. have been reporting that this is a young man that had allegedly arrived to the u.k. when he was fifteen years old following the death of both of his parents back in iraq now they've been reporting that he was arrested on friday evening near the port of dover and they're claiming that he is according to them the key suspect in this whole terror related latest incident in the u.k. because they've been circulating images captured by c.c.t.v. cameras where a young man can be seen carrying a little bag which is a grocery store here and this is the exact same bag that was captured in images inside the carriage where this homemade device had partially detonated on friday morning and the second young man is actually being named
a second alleged suspect according to the media they are describing him as twenty one year old for rukh and according to them he was arrested on saturday evening outside chicken shop in west london now the media here have said that they've tracked down what they're saying is his facebook page where the person who is. who has that facebook page says that he is from damascus syria that this was a person who had studied english in london and worked at events company here in the british capital and they have been saying that in the facebook page you can see that he lived somewhere near heathrow airport and that he had arrived in europe via egypt back in twenty thirty and there's also been lots of attention given to the foster care couple that are reportedly were force. having these two men in foster care at certain periods throughout their presence in the u.k. and there are lots of reports about the neighbors describing them as
a beautiful couple they're reported to be seventy one years old they are said to have fostered hundreds of children including migrants over a period of over forty years there are reported to have been honored by the queen for their services in terms of helping children back in two thousand and nine and according to media reports here the neighbors are saying their god it there has been a some social media support page created for them so certainly lots of attention given to the personalities involved in this latest terror incident but more information get to come in terms of official statements as this investigation continues if thanks as always and to see the church now live from the british capital. heading across the atlantic from there there's been a third consecutive night of violence in the city of st louis in the u.s. after a former police officer was acquitted of murdering a black man some of these demonstrations started as a peaceful march but the send it into rioting with property damage done police
officers assaulted also more than eighty arrests were made. for the marches turned into chaos protestors smush windows and true trash cans and officers there are also reports that police were attacked with chemicals on the friday demonstrators vandalized the mers hold on green the city's been swelling since a judge cleared former officer jason stokley of killing the lamar smith in twenty eleven. or order or order or order.
or we were. all dr ben margulies politics and international relations expert at warrick university in the u.k. joins us live now on the program good to have your company. do you think that violent protests were where for seeable as he nears the right word after such a decision. i'd say that they were if it's a historical pattern you often you have a cycle of peaceful protests in the united states which are followed by small splinter groups in gauged in violence so it's not. it's not an unusual pattern no though there's a difference between you know the small groups that break off from protests as we've seen in recent years and the larger. the larger scale more generalized
rioting that used to accompany the. race related riots during the twentieth century for example in los angeles in one thousand nine hundred two but is it it's small splinter groups that we've seen and it's three sustained nights of violence that the police are not able to contain. yes but what i understand from the media reports there are large scale protests and then relatively small numbers of people engaged in violence afterward so i mean there might be. might be because of high tensions during the protests to some people become aggravated might be some element radical elements come along as part of the larger group of protests but that's not uncommon what was so controversial you think about the court's decision the judge has been pinpointed but i've been reading reports he's been described as objective well respected by prosecutors and
defense lawyers are like it's not the money is it it's the decision. i don't think of the the it's not the sort of the personality of the judge so much as the sense among many americans especially non white americans that the entire system is racist at a structural level to the extent that. it becomes almost systematically impossible to hold a police officer to account for violence against citizens especially if they're not white that if you look at the pattern of police violence of the last three or four in this case six years you have a large number of high profile shootings by police of usually non white citizens who in the process of relatively routine police actions. and almost none of the many of these people are not indicted they are not charged to where they are
charged they are almost never convicted implying. not just the personnel of the justice system might be racist which isn't but also that the entire structure is. to protect police officers and to diminish the value in afforded to gap or to citizens do you think the scenes justify. which which a lot of people would agree with what you've said of course but the violence that we've seen is it not country productive given the extent to which they hurt the local community and i'm thinking of block owned businesses being attacked being looted how does that help the situation in any way what we're seeing. well i mean i think that sort of rioting i mean presuming that it has some sort of political goal at all. and it doesn't i think it's more likely.
more likely. i don't think if you were if you believe that the system cannot be changed then that sort of frustrated violence you know there's not really any reason not to engage in it if you don't believe that if you don't believe the system is ever going to change if you're simply running up against a system that has in effect a brick wall i mean in terms of political havior i would imagine it reflects frustration presuming reflects any political motive at all but you know the vast majority of police protests and police protesters demand specific policies and you know be specific institutions for the most part you see an actual engagement. with institutions ok we appreciate your time and your thought i want to play the amount of violence ok dr ben margulies politics and international ations expert at
here's what people have been saying about rejected in the us actually to pull along . the only show i go out of my way to find you know what it is that really packs a punch. yeah it is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same we are apparently better than blue. sea people you've never heard of love redacted tonight . president of the world bank so they. really. seriously send us an e-mail. just coming up to twenty minutes past five pm this monday afternoon here in moscow welcome back joint military drills between russia and belarus are well underway scores of planes helicopters tanks combat ships are involved in defensive maneuvers the first stage of the drills simulated country in direct threats to belarus on repealing foreign fighters.
well the drills which officially end on whedon's they have led some western officials to express concern over what they see a direct threat to european security reporting more on that. in my ads so we finally made our way to keep probably going to lose secure range here in north western russia that's where the military says they will have the main stage of the drills with valorous it's been raining cats and dogs for called day but the military spokesperson promised us a great performance. the joint exercises between russia. and the into the states and well have an invasion of europe so far as i can tell but concerts media expectations perhaps the drills very sitting huge media attention long before the even worse than the us have been a little more resolved in that but just a little bit they're about to do an exercise in russia. it's going to tail up to one hundred thousand russian troops. moving into into the country the great concern
is they're not going to leave and that's you know that's not paranoia that's active concern among among the countries the data from the russian the russian ministry of defense suggests that's a total of thirteen thousand troops going to participate and that's from both sides and the majority of them are from balad respond the way but in the eyes of washington and some european capitals the numbers could be ten or even twenty times higher something must go says it's fine to quote. but let's now see what we've got to. see the more than the eyes. nothing you actually but the south are working horses of the russian army. like me like a piece of the land. russia's president vladimir putin arrived in the living rod
region to observateur exercises earlier in the country's defense minister sergei was also there. well as we mentioned earlier they exercises have seen some sensationalist media reporting some light let's even suggested there are a prelude to the invasion of eastern europe we travel to a lafayette near the russian border to find out what locals there think about the likelihood of moscow invading. i think this is all a generic nothing will happen i know that it's remarkable sort of seriously of course everything. these russian drills are actually an answer to need to drills in the baltics guard no no everything's fine there's no negative information representatives are invited to russian troops so all the dangers of being exaggerated we've got a real double standard here russia and belarus are allies they are carrying out
these exercises they're very transparent there are international observers there and russia and belarus of both got very good reasons to be to be carrying out these military exercises the nato critics are being very hypocritical we're living in an orwellian kind of propaganda framework at the moment where the countries who have done the attacking of other countries the countries that have posed a threat to world peace are pretending to be the countries under threat and but in actual fact it's russia which is acting here defensively with good cause because we've seen what nato has done in the destruction they've caused around the world. the european union's top court has overruled a telling in law allowing a farmer there to plant genetically modified corn and that's despite every region in the country saying they're against the controversial crop in one thousand nine hundred eight the farmer in question was authorized by the european court to use specific seeds that reportedly had quote no r vers effects on human health or the
environment but nearly fifteen years later he faced fines from the italian government who argued that the crops could pose a risk. well italy has previously asked the european commission to bomb the use of g.m. seeds nationwide but was turned down in twenty thirteen the issue the ministerial to create that led to farmers being sued but this new e.u. court decision effectively overrules everything some farmers in italy give us their thoughts on the use of genetically modified seats. i believe that if italy has decided that g m o's will not be grown on its territory that decision has total legitimacy to come to italy have the opportunity to buy and taste a large amount of local products these products are the result of years of work and one hundred year old farming history what will we gain from g.m. most if a sovereign state decides that certain laws are fundamental to its economy i don't think it is right that the e.u.
can interfere with those laws. but. if you produce in italy and you were italian you should follow italian laws not force things that go against those laws we work here and we do not break our laws we respect them we completely reject g.m. seeds we produce high quality products in former ghana. the thoughts of two who work the london and fears over g.m. crops are wide and varied they range from minor food allergies to more serious cases like infertility miscarriage birth defects and even cancer the spy thought the e.u. court approved some g.m. seeds usage in italy and we discussed it with a number of experts. if not these crops are forbidden because we still do not understand what the consequences are so far there has been no proper and in-depth research for this reason we do not know in five years ten years twenty years what can happen surely this ruling creates a president that makes it urgent and necessary to conduct research and experiments
the choice to use g.m. seeds or not should not be dictated by economic political post social parameters but must be dictated only and exclusively by technical choices and scientific analysis there is a very strong conflict of jurisdiction the which cannot be solved because there is no upper or talk about the european union the european union knows will prevail on the town young love from now on so will be certainly allowed every genetically modify farm to farm or we speak a lot about genetically modified organisms because it is a very true and the topic because people are interested in the many conflict of jurisdiction between between the euro and italy i don't see as a positive thing this info enjoyment of italian loans by the european union to remember you can always get stories on the go by downloading our are to stay with
us. as the syrian government pushes to finally end the war washington again calls for regime change also the media war regarding north korea and the so-called russia. time action are times are we going underground three years to the day scotland voted to remain being ruled from westminster coming up to show as new figures show
that only two percent of the u.k. social housing taleb looks have a full sprinkler system we speak to the u.k. shadow minister for five chris williamson about the underlying causes that led to the grim felt tragedy and should the government end their contact with g four s. we speak to the chair of the u.k. justice committee about whether the shadow chancellor calls for no new private prisons is enough to end the crisis was no laughing matter we go to edinburgh to speak to stand up comedian and frankie boyle's writing partner tom state about a new liberal censorship crushing protest in britain all the support coming up in today's going underground but first today as u.k. government targets for the british economy collapse under a government led by a leader who didn't want to leave the european union a former goldman sachs banker mark carney will be delivering a speech in washington strangely it's seldom that u.k. politicians accuse conny governor of the bank of england of being political even called ministers don't much argue that the bank should be the last place to set
interest rates that affect all of society but possible tory replacement to theresa may jacob reese morg isn't any politician this is where you come very lives as if i'm a move on. causation so if you're going with the. obviously carney didn't arguably give a satisfactory answer the subsequent in antecedent to those but more intensively substance subsequent to those about the economic implications how is the economy doing actually i mean of course that is a regular ongoing conversation between any government or any chance or subsequent to that you see to that whatever else the goldmans. x.-man would say we're going to imagine what conversation will follow today's lecture in washington when he publicly discusses things with i.m.f. managing director christine lagarde remember her forget the jail time many would have liked for her predecessors for impoverishing hundreds of millions of the developing world the present i.m.f. m d was up for jail time but she didn't end up doing it was characterized as
a plus side at c.n. we see on the plus side for her she is not going to have jail time there was no sentence handed down so this is a big slap on the wrist and what we're talking about is christine lagarde the managing director of the i.m.f. find once found guilty what you have to say criminal charges what used to resign well if that's unclear it's going to be up to the i.m.f. board no she didn't have to resign which is why she could have a criminal conviction and be chatting about bricks it with canadian banker macone that's connie who presides over one of the most critical leaves in the u.k. economy interest rates while opposing the british people's vote to leave the european union one longtime ally of germany corbin who leads europe's largest socialist party in britain is the shadow fire and emergency minister chris williams and leading light against their liberalism he joins me now chris welcome to going underground so why is it taking so long for the labor party saving lead to come to terms with supporting the trade union movement that created it. well i think the policy was to some extent taken prisoner by neo liberal ideology which provided the
policy for far too long really and i think it led to a situation where party leaders felt they had to distance themselves from the so they do feel wing of the labor movement in order to to win power i think was a mistake of go to sleep jeremy corbyn who was overwhelmingly elected twice always project himself all his support for the trade union movement it was him self a form a new piece falls on organized and i think this only goes to shift to now people have recognised that the sort of attacks on the trade union movement on the mining of the trade union. over the years has actually left people in a policy position and indeed the trade union legislation is led directly to the explosion in low paid in secure employment center i think there's an appetite for something different and obviously generally epitomizes that and that's why when such an overwhelming majority of labor support in terms of the members one of the
things which was contained in our manifesto this time to get a lot of attention in the media was a very significant proposition and that was the notion of a right to vote so that when they company is threatened with a stripping. hedge fund coming in and flog it off and sucking the workers making them redundant or offshoring you know good quality jobs or low wage economies there is now all the would now be under labor governments an opportunity for those workers to be given the first right to refuse or to buy that company out and so what we would do is create a network a worker cooperatives you mention that policy surely it is breaks it that allows labor to make their military commitment arguably that would be illegal the creation of corporate of the kind you just mentioned there because it would be encroached on either legislation about protecting corporations well look the e.u. was in perth i mean breaks it open oh indeed well indeed potentially is an indeed i
gave an interview to my local media on the nights of the referendum when it was obvious that we had lost as i campaigned for the main i was on the wrong side on both occasions in ninety seventy five a boat to come out in this our campaign to remain in the last um both times but you know i mean i think. i think it would be obstacle certainly if you know if we remained in the european you i honestly saw some specific advice on that by the house of commons library as the explicit question actually about the about bringing about the railways into public ownership before last i see in twenty fifteen before it might become back in twenty seventeen and they were very clear that actually. there wasn't any e.u. impediments if you like that would actually be insurmountable in the you know you would be able to what your way around that things are going to the atlantic well indeed of course caldwell of course with artillery absolutely i agree without them to but you know we are we are in a situation now where the labor party is very clear on the point that we are going to come out of the european union we respect the democratic will of the public even
though most of the members voted to campaign to remain and indeed most supporters voted to remove them to the rail you know a vote has been hard and we've now got to ensure that when we come out of the european union that we try to create an economy that works for everybody it works in the georgian people not just those at the top of society if you think that that is what i was trying to bring in through the back door with the so-called henry the eighth bill widely spoken about as well the most important piece of legislation ever to go through the house of commons and that's why a critical germany corwin's opposition to the repeal bill was absolutely i mean i think my worry is that by besting these powers in the hands of the executive the government ministers will make it much easier for them to effectively britain insua deregulated tax haven which triggered article fifty some considerable time ago now we've got what is eighteen months left probably less than that now. i just don't think we can negotiate a deal that would work in the interests of older people so what we've said is let's
solve this transition period i'll give us a bit more time because clearly what we want to make sure is that we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater in our manifesto which i think is probably the best manifesto we produce it's nineteen full somebody it's a very conservative well no i mean a but i think it was one which captured the imagination i've never known i've been a member the last forty four forty one years and i've never known people. because we're talking about the manufacturers' like a bestseller you know it took some of the shadow foreign minister out of it was the you didn't win but are you confident and your the shadow minister for emergency services after all you cover the back door henry the eighth bridge is lation will mean it will be more. billed as an emergency ministry in government under called in the premiership to bring back into democratically publicly accountable power so much of the emergency services which were privatized under new labor and tories we don't just want to kick the profits is out of the national health service what we believe actually is really into delivering public services prophecy it's got no
place at all because when you think about it the profit sector when they take on public services how do they make their margins make the margins often by. diminishing the quality of the service but predominantly is by screwing the workers into the ground and actually diminishing that conditions and what we want to make sure that we do is we create a economic virtuous circle where we see the public services which actually benefit the general public and should we value our public servants we recognize that public services actually define a decent society and actually know by putting the money in the pockets of ordinary working people and paying public sector workers properly and not just seeing as a plaything for you know the private sector as it were to actually create economic growth you know if in fact the labor government brings more of it into democratically well no then you know we are absolutely no labor would it absolutely make it variable the better weather is very conservative about five before going into that for all we know by next easter when the reported to the granville tower
fire emerges from this this night in more. will in the area looking at this report into its become emblematic of. britain privatised britain as it were you have much faith in it given that he's restricting it to the immediate causes of the fire we've said that that should be to stage an inquiry process clearly we need to get to the bottom of how the fire started why spread so quickly why the residents who lived in in grand forks are were ignored because they predicted a catastrophe would happen before they were they were heard but what we want to see a more fundamental inquiry looking at how was it possible that those political decisions could be made you know the whole issue around deregulation externalization i got to tell you in my view dreadful tower is a direct consequence of almost forty years of neo liberalism without the second tier i think which looks up the sort of environment that allowed the kind of whole deregulation agenda probably in
a general cuts agenda to you know permeate our sort of you know public sector discourse that you know my fear is we won't learn the lessons and just very briefly . if you are in government you can guarantee they will be critical of machines of emergency in other words absolutely no i mean we are committed to a fully nationalized national health service not only that we've also said that the challenge of of the day to day is a national care service we have a demographics at a time bomb going off and. you know we've got lots of people who have become infirm people are living longer and they have to sell sell their house in order to be able to pay for the care that's completely on their families a kind of just or me working class people never really probably have a couple in their life many of them would probably encourage them to mortgage fancier it's by their counselors for example so you know put themselves into debt as well i appreciate that i know i don't divert from that no i agree we went along with that but i think the problem was that we didn't actually you know when we were
thirteen years ago but we didn't know so much about the rights of we didn't invest in new council housing and one of things of course of jeremy corbyn. very strong commitment in our manifested to build a million homes half a million bush will be council houses council housing was was a. word which didn't speak their name for the last sort of thirty or forty years it was very much you know the trajectory was divesting ourselves of councils and i think i read some statistic recently suggested that thirty five percent of the council houses which had been sold off a now in the provinces sector and the rents being charged or you know two three four times four times what they would be if they were a council home and that then is being subsidized through the housing benefit system we have a crazy housing policy in this country which is geared to subsidizing high rents both in the sort of social housing sector and put it that way but also in the private sector six or twenty seven billion pounds a year it's been spent on housing benefit it's absolute madness we should be using
a proportion of that money to invest in new homes that would generate new jobs it would talk about social need and you know get rid of the housing crisis is just plain common sense is very absurd thank you. after the break the form of vice chair of the conservative party response to accusations from chris williams and. the. privatization deregulation kills. the saudi arabia stand up comedian frankie boyle is right you can go home state poking fun at . the prison or even the death sentence all the symbol of going up to.
welcome back in the first half of the show we heard from shadow fire emergency minister chris williamson who gave us his views about why the more than eighty people died in london in june in the green felt our tragedy joining me now is chair of britain's parliamentary just a select committee is also a former foreign minister and former vice chair of britain's ruling conservative party bob thanks for coming on the show so. basically chris was very very direct with us more than eighty people died as a direct result of deregulation and privatization while i have an inquiry he didn't say that. but i think chris is just completely wide of them out there i'm sorry to say he's in a particularly ideological view about this which i don't think bears out the facts let's give it a bit of context shall we this is a terrible awful tragedy but the context to it is this over the years over all that
time that chris has been saying there been deregulation done by both his own party and the conservatives can be accused of supporting tony blair i think that's probably right but he does have to take this was sort of why was that done because ministers on both sides are actually acting on expert advice and throughout that period over the last twenty years or more we have seen until the tragic events of graeme for the number of fires to domestic fires and the number of deaths and fires steadily go down until. when we have grown full we had been at all time lows so it's not for nosing catastrophes like lack of knowledge and so for us but actually the total numbers there are very much and any number of deaths is are all much smaller and the keep it to remember is that we had throughout that period had exactly those type of regulations in place but as usual when we get a really catastrophic a.b.c. like this one i suspect the inquiry and i'm not going to prejudge the inquiry
unlike chris is likely to say there's a number of factors that come together around this i simply just simply say it's all down to near. liberal di liberalization is i think just too sweeping and what we actually need is to have the details i suspect you may find a number of failures here taken together and so we got to learn the lessons around how to prevent those some believe the tide is turning on the day when this is going excuse things by saying experts told us this so we've abrogated our responsibility it's the experts all the time do you think it's the government's job to ensure safety oh absolutely nobody results from that but when you draw up the detail regulations around things better fire safety regulations also building regulations absolutely right that you act upon the best very often experts scientific advice and also off the open the best firefighting advice now technology moves all new products come on the market and so you do have to be regularly updating that but again that's why i had to make
a sweeping accusation like that is easy and accurate we've got to think in terms not just of the particular construction regulations. was there enough taken to take onboard this particular combination of products that seem to be unused in the fighting but also things not just wood regulations right but were actually being properly enforced as well local for example having a regulation about fire doors if the doors as he suggested in on some floors here were being propped open that's what we need to have the inquiry to get to the hard evidence about before we come to conclusions david amos just told me the other day the head of your party parliamentary group on fire safety said the review could have saved the lives it may have done but we can't be certain of that either in trees because for example dave this particular issue and concern i know has been around sprinklers now sprinklers can work in some circumstances but the advice that i have been is a minister from a professional fire fighters there's a huge wording there when you said suggestions of the government is putting fires
if you'd risk in tall buildings by potentially removing provisions with sprinklers are factually wrong absolutely right because if you were against sprinklers no. it will be removing provisions as we are not never had done so i think that's completely twisted round there away with it was reset what we had said the advice was that sprinklers can play a part but they are not the only power and that i think you'll find when we look at the detail remains the case and now the details of that review i can't speak to us i've never government by that time i was the minister at the time as the back of our house in quest when it was set up and i ensure that our far advisors gave evidence to that inquiry made all the detail of the you think it was a inclusions i think like in our house conclusions were told proportionate as they say it but there were a number of sprinters can play a role and the government my successor as minister that successor wrote to all the housing providers very specifically drawing attention to that now sprinkled with resumes chief of staff stands charged with not acting on that very report that
you're talking about what actually other you were there was a lot of work that went on after that so again that's right compressing. a number of events the other bit to remember is this a lot of shows that sprinters can be helpful under certain circumstances but they're not the whole picture but of course it is austerity presumably which made the government sack thousands of prison officers when it comes to justice presumed we hear about it all the time when you are just a select committee do you do now recognize that that kind of cutting was wrong at least i'm on record as saying that trying to screenings trying to get republic up to fall we had come into government with a massive deficit i don't quite understand really was to pay off a lot of the city of london that thousands of prison officers. were fired that they headed to prison officers association said on this program you know it's only a matter of time before one of them down there that makes a completely massive a wrong assumption if you know i'm a saying to the city of london it all is a disastrous economic policies of the brown government that got us into this mess
the massive debt was a public borrowing that had been run up the fact we are paying more debt interest than we were on the whole service for example so that was what was wrong of the train journey or a crash the crash was not the cause of the bad brown policies they were already in place the lady the worst of that but there were certainly make it easier but it's background policies that made it worse so they were going to be reductions but i'm the first to say that their doctors went too far given what the government didn't do as he has written the hope to was also put in place measures to reduce the risk the prison population when you're either cut the prison population or you have to employ more officers that's part of that sounds like what do you think about when jeremy corbyn the leader of you know western europe's largest searches body saying prison officers are right to reject the defacto pay cut off what are they got by the two percent rise which inflation running two point nine percent means you are slashing the wages of people in the justices but you usually motive in inaccurate words not the case at all it's not dissing them yeah well let's be accurate so the increase is not as much as inflation so you might say in real terms that trade up
to let's put it in those terms because you know. the street keeps telling us oh no this is. the great thing we've stopped the pay gap what we have to do with the wages the movie we have to do what we have because the economic circumstance beginning to stabilize that we have started to move away from some level of control people ought to welcome that but of course he got hold of socialist and right to call it that he's not a social democrat he's a marxist socialist jeremy corbett so he of course would come from that point of view but i don't think that's responsible i think most prison officers do a good job i think they're entitled to an uplift in their wages as the economy continues to improve but we can do that more as well but he won't. the other hand he won't criticize the approach of some trade unions which could be very obstructive of the workforce reform and i think because it's to show a bit of imagination that it gave management to ministers have got to show mentioned nation around it was so that the prison service have to reckon unions have to recognise that reason movement may not be as much as you'd like. but let's
try and build on that constructively a role in seeking to make them a confrontation out of it jeremy coleman seems to want to whip up thank you. well for privatized justice to public humiliation as we joined stand up comedian actor tom stayed in edinburgh scotland where he launched his new show i swear which was across the u.k. until december while here we are in a noisy gilded balloon theatre in edinburgh to talk to the comedian tom stayed you're going to be touring all this fall or autumn and winter with this show swear i swear under british broadcasting regulations what's the show about well. it started out i was trying to explain the way i punctuate words which. i swear. where when that were it's very much about it. because it also what i'm trying to do is just sort of be
a truthful comedian and how it is without beating around the bush in. is a serious issue isn't it i mean when you are writing this shows where you do absolutely sure you never thought in the back of your head to self sense of the chilling effect of censorship in devising a show like this oh that's too much because you'll get into trouble well i think ok now we're getting serious i think we're living in dangerous times my man my biggest worry is that we live in this name and shame culture so as soon as you have an opinion if it isn't the same as the majority's opinion all of a sudden you get this sort of feeling from from whoever whoever's there to name and shame you everybody's in allowed an opinion whether you like it or not this is this is how somebody else feels about a certain subject so you don't think tasteless jokes so more a borat than selling arms to saudi arabia well. no i mean. that is
a process already. but the british authorities don't see it that way no no the problem is you've got a lot of anger in this world right now for me and you've got a lot of anger and and you may call it isis you may call it you may call it anything you want but to me it's just anger you know what i mean so to try and take the. cell and guns that the saudis or whatever and put some light on it and not take it too seriously you kind of get rid of that anger a little bit you know what i mean to make this world a bit of a better place and that's a that's pretty much the comedian's job is to sort of poke fun you know at the ridiculousness of it all because everybody knows what the right thing to do is we just don't do it you've written of course with frankie boyle and there are serious problems that he got into and but by inference you go into do you think the.
british authorities or british commissioning editors say on television programs we'll look at your comedy and go. you know him little and boil a little another bit that you dangerous right now well they don't like they might do that you know that's that's another part of this they totally might do that but do you recognize that you know we're going to get on the royal variety show and do a comedy in front of royalty when you make jokes against the british military and against nature wars around the world lead yeah. well i mean that's that's something you should have met bishan it was. do that and that is a goal for some people. you know that's a goal for some people for me i just want to i just like to i don't really have too many goals the only goal i really have was to become a stand up comedian and then and then everything after that is pretty much gravy whether it make it on a royal variety program who cares you know what i mean but but i more concentrate
just on the people that come to the show enjoy it and then come back and maybe one day i will make the variety show maybe they'll go that's the best that's the best nato joke we've ever heard for crying out loud demand for of a. somebody thank you york was a canadian immigrant or maybe canadian migrant immigrant that i've migrated over here another of a lot of people that i moved here i'm not a bird a lot of even the liberal media love your photogenic leader mr trudeau i mean i understand that he's allowed canada to exploit massive weaponry to saudi arabia. what do you think about mr trudeau's poll israel and saudi arabia to sell and just selling guns on its own you know just to kind of anybody is wrong first of all big money and a lot of it canada and britain yeah but if you're doing things for money things can
get pretty evil now can't they tell you're not going to be selling guns until you get rid of guns and all that sort of stuff. this stuff is all going to go on so i guess if i was just and you know he's in the he's in a marketplace and he's probably as if somebody else doesn't sell him too well you know that kind of thing but i've never agreed with that selling guns to anybody but is it their own i mean that's the market for justin's probably go on. you can make is a little bit of money here guy giving more and more information about climate change and how quickly it's all happening i mean easier to write jokes about it or hot or i do have one nice joke on climate change and i disguise it but when we were talking about the saudi arabia how women aren't allowed to drive and all that sort of stuff and and in the comics mind you know that's a horrible thing but i my you know you try and twist it around how did you go i
think that's a fabulous idea because just purely for environmental reasons because you have sixty million people now the dr pollute the pollute the air you know it's all there be playing saudi arabia. oh yeah i'm going to. because i love me so i mean yeah of course any you can take on that topic for sure man and maybe it's actually important to take it on but i think i think there's probably better comedians to take on something like that than a person like me i'd just like to i like the human condition more than i then i like topical things you know i like what's going on in here more than what's going on out there because what's going on out there changes but what's in here seems to be universal fundamental kind of thing you know say we're going to put all the details of you know big on our website thank you very much. jonah stayed there speaking to me the edinburgh fringe and you can see it on stage
touring right across britain right now but that's the end of the show and we'll be back on wednesday discussing chelsea manning donald trump and l g b g i q plus rights. the award winning drag queen bee. media will deal with a seventeen yesterday a rocket attack on the london head porches of britain's foreign secret service. seemed wrong. just don't call. me. yet to shape out these days to come out to try and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.
as the syrian government pushes to finally end the war in washington again calls for regime change also the media war regarding north korea and the so-called russian. donald trump pushes for reform of the nation saying the world body reached its full potential your firm our commitment to the united nations report and this was one. of the u.k. media is abuzz with speculation over the london bombing suspects c.c.t.v. footage emerges appearing to show the attacker. within. me during a third consecutive night of violence in the us. guilty
of murdering a black man. just after ten am in chicago eight pm in new delhi and six in the evening here in moscow you're very welcome to our to international the u.k. media has been left somewhat speculating after the arrest of a second suspect in the london underground explosion there's little known officially about the two individuals being questioned on london's. confirmed police . and the charges. there have been two arrests significant progress for the police to continue their investigations are just at the site where the you room
where the people used to live with the rest of eight but you'd appreciate if you the suspects know charles she's yes despite a lot of the official information is yet to be confirmed we have certainly seen the press here in the u.k. really be of buzz with alleged details on potential suspects now certainly they've been focusing their attention on two men specifically one of them an unnamed eighteen year old man said to have been for all of iraqi origin the media here in the u.k. have been reporting that this is a young man that had allegedly arrived to the u.k. when he was fifteen years old following the death of both of his parents back in iraq now they've been reporting that he was arrested on friday evening near the port of dover and they're claiming that he is according to them the key suspect in this whole terror related latest incident in the u.k. because they've been circulating images captured by c.c.t.v. cameras where a young man can be seen carrying a little bag which is
a grocery store here and this is the exact same bag that was captured in images inside the carriage where this homemade device had partially detonated on friday morning and the second young man is actually being named a second alleged suspect according to the media they are describing him as twenty one year old for rukh and according to them he was arrested on saturday evening outside a chicken shop in west london now the media here have said that they've tracked down what they're saying is his facebook page that says that he is from damascus syria that this was a person who had studied english in london and worked at a events company here in the british capital and they have been saying that in the facebook page you can see that he lived somewhere near heathrow airport and that he had arrived in europe via egypt back in twenty third. there's also been lots of attention given to the foster care couple that are reportedly were having these two
men in foster care at certain periods throughout their presence in the u.k. and there are lots of reports about the neighbors describing them as a beautiful couple they're reported to be seventy one years old they are said to have fostered hundreds of children including migrants over a period of over the years there are reported to have been honored by the queen for their services in terms of helping children back in two thousand and nine and according to media reports here the neighbors are saying their god is there has been a social media support page created for them so certainly lots of attention given to the personalities involved in this latest terror incident but more information get to come in terms of official statements as this investigation continues. the american president has made his first speech of the united nations where he spoke about reforming the international body donald trump proposed changes to the u.n.
structure something he's been in favor all. your firm are commitment to the united nations reform and reform is what we're talking about i applaud the secretary general for laying out a vision to reform the united nations so that it better serves the people we all represent. from donald trump's maiden speech at the. united nations r.t.c. recount joins me live on the program so we're a what was it. oh well president try first address the u.n. general assembly for the first time today and many expected him to outline his specific policies on what the u.s. believes to be a threat to international security being iran and north korea however president did not just do so he actually commended be un to maintain international peace
he also highlighted the ineffectiveness of going to u.n. due to quote unquote bureaucracy and he also further and emphasized the need for reform through and maintaining. the united nations commitment to human rights on this reform and. yeah something he's been saying for quite some time but now is the american president seeing it in new york the u.n. samir a similar a come thanks very much for bringing this to dates. well before the u.n. general assembly meeting russia and america's top diplomats met washington's request months relations continue to plunge in what's been described as a historic post cold war low our new york correspondent killam up and has more on what circular often rex tillerson discussed during their conversation. russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov and u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson held
a meeting on the sidelines of the united nations general assembly now the meeting was initiated by the american side the issues discussed specifically were syria and ukraine in syria there are accusations being leveled by the united states that u.s. backed rebel forces were directly attacked by russia now russia says that these rebel forces were not attacked that rather it was only ice still forces that were attacked but the area in question the issue is the city of darryl's or it's important to know that this is taking place as there have been breakthroughs in the negotiations and russia iran and turkey have actually reached a breakthrough a document has been released and deescalation zones are actually being a stablished in the country in the northwestern regions of syria in the province and elsewhere we're actually starting to see breakthroughs and deescalation zones in the country be a stablished as a result of the negotiations that are taking place in kazakstan between the three parties now it's also important to note that another issue that was discussed was
the issue of ukraine and the lab rob and rex tillerson discussed implementing the minsk agreement for peace and deescalation of tensions in ukraine there's been ongoing fighting in ukraine in the east in the donbass region and the u.s. secretary of state and the russian foreign minister did discuss the possibility of implementing the agreement and making sure there were no tension. or middle east expert only risk thinks the trip administration still wants to improve ties between russia and the u.s. the spite the pressure. with they develop and seem see our original syria reaching a sensitive phase particularly in that eastern region the close of the border with iraq i think that the americans thought that it was very important to focus on the fact that there should be no kind of collisions whatsoever i think it also points out the fact which is an important issue the trumpet ministration despite
the congressional pressures that despite the presence of anti russian voices in the administration such as licky halley deal with similar sort of to the un to mr trump doesn't appear to have given up on it seen as an authority on his efforts to improve the toys between the u.s. and russia although how much you'll be successful is something which is open for debate. well as well as the sideline talks between russia and the u.s. focus on the u.n. general assembly this week is likely to be on the korean peninsula and washington is hinting that it's pretty much exhausted every diplomatic boss ability. reports really sort of sounds like the military option is sort of becoming the frontrunner for them we've had the american ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley saying that she feels that the united nations security council has really already done all that they can when it comes to north korea and that she's really already prepared to hand off the crisis to the u.s.
secretary of defense adding that in that situation north korea would be quote destroyed and that's something we have coming from a diplomat i said yesterday i'm perfectly happy kicking this over to general mattis because he has plenty of military options if the united states has to defend itself or defend its allies in any way north korea will be destroyed and we all know that and none of us want that none of us want war so there we have haley saying she's happy to hand it over to mattis and not long ago we had he himself describing briefly what that would sort of look like what a military option with north korea would look like and very best words saying that the response would be both effective and overwhelming any threat to the united states george territories including. or our allies will be met with a massive military response the response both direct and overwhelming we are not looking to the total annihilation of a country namely north korea but as i said we have many options to do show and in
the same light many remember all of the comments that we've had from trump himself fire and fury and whatnot and amid those threats that we've had coming from the president he's repeated a number of times that talking with north korea just isn't going to be effective not really diplomatic words that we have coming from the president himself and on. sunday trump also referred to the north korean leader as rocket man and a tweet comments that are unlikely to go without a response and it's worth noting that while thumb in the trumpet ministration are still hopeful for a diplomatic solution calling for it it does seem that they focus has sort of shifted from that as sort of like an afterthought and going more towards the looming military option the co-founder of the national campaign to end the korean war thinks that north korea is ready for a diplomatic solution but that's not something washington has so far presented to pyongyang it will not negotiate the nuclear weapons unless the u.s.
sends its hostile parlak policies toward the d.p. r. k. so consequently you've got two sides in a tug of war and we're left with very little option other than considering fire and fury and in reality that shows not only a lack of creativity but arguably violates our international law as well the idea that in a tug of war you have to let go of one end of the rope you have to have the courage to do that and then use creative aspects of conflict resolution to get the job done . there's been a third consecutive not of violence in the us city of st louis after a former police officer was acquitted of murdering a black man sunday's demonstration started as a peaceful march but the send it into rioting with property damage done police
officers assaulted more than eighty arrests were made. i i. i. well by nightfall the marches had to send it into chaos protesters smashed windows through trash cans and officers there were also reports that police were on known chemicals on friday demonstrators vandalized the most famous will anger in the city's green swelling since a judge cleared former officer jason stokley of killing anthony lamar smith twenty eleven. or order.
a lot of there's a lot of frustration and there's a lot of people felt that he would. not be hurt. that they couldn't sell used to violence is never justified on the end these circumstances even though people may say there was a mix in fact in this case here but personally i don't think it's acceptable particularly when you say it's. your very own community. that's been on the money for. some big hardware and show us russian ballet research conducting joint military exercises we've got the details on the footage from there in about ninety seconds time on more stay with us.
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in the waters at. sixty minutes past six pm here in moscow you were a welcome back joint military drills between russia. scores of planes helicopters tanks combat ships to name but if you're involved in a defensive maneuver the first stage of the drills have simulated direct threats about a risk repairing foreign fighters. well
in northwestern russia that's where the military says they will have the main stage of the drills with belarus it's been raining cats and dogs for called day but the military spokesperson promised us a great performance. the joint exercises between russia. and that went to defeat state and well haven't signed into invasion of europe so far as i can tell but concerts media expectations perhaps the drills very sitting huge media attention long before they even start to western the fishless have been a little more reserved in that but just a little bit they're about to do an exercise in russia. that's going to tail up to one hundred thousand russian troops moving into into that country the great concern is they're not going to leave and that's you know that's not paranoia that's active concern among among the countries the data from the russian and i would say that the russian ministry of defense suggest that's a total of only thirteen thousand troops are going to participate and that's from
both sides and the majority of them are from balad which by the way but in the eyes of washington and some european capitals the numbers could be ten or even twenty times higher something must go says it's fine to quote. but let's now see what we've got here. b.m.p. see the more than eyes the seventeenth seat nothing new actually but these are the working horses of the russian army for military gear found like me like a piece of the land. russia's president vladimir putin arrived in the leningrad region earlier to observe the exercises the country's defense minister sergei showed who was also there. as we mentioned exercises have seen some sensationalist media reporting some even suggested they
were pretty good to the invasion of eastern europe we travel to a lot near the russian border to find out what locals there are think about the likelihood of a moscow invasion. i think this is nothing will happen i know that it's. sort of pretty seriously of course everything will keep these russian drills are actually an answer to major drills in the baltics no. no no everything's fine there's no negative information representatives are invited to russian so all the dangers of being exaggerated we've got a real double standard here russia and belarus are allies they are carrying out these exercises they're very transparent there are international observers there and russia and belarus are both got very good reasons to be to be carrying out these military exercises the nato critics are being very hypocritical we're living in an orwellian kind of propaganda framework at the moment where the countries who
have done the attacking of other countries the countries that have posed a threat to world peace are pretending to be the countries under threat and but in actual fact it's russia which is acting here defensively with good cause because we've seen what nato has done and the destruction they've caused around the world. the european union's top court has overruled to tell you in law allowing a farmer there to plant genetically modified corn despite every region in the country saying they're against the controversial crop in one thousand nine hundred eight the european court authorized the use of the seeds in question saying they had quote no adverse effects on human health or the environment nearly fifteen years later the farmer was fined by the italian government which argues the g.m. maize. health risks. literally has previously asked the european commission to bomb the use of g.m. seeds nationwide but was turned down in twenty thirteen be issued
a ministerial decree that led to farmers being sued but this new e.u. court decision effectively overrules it some farmers in italy give us their thoughts on the use of genetically modified seeds. i believe that if italy has decided that g.m. owes will not be grown on its territory that decision has total legitimacy come to everybody have the opportunity to buy and taste a large amount of local products these products are the result of years of work and one hundred year old farming history what will we gain from g.m. most if a sovereign state decides that certain laws are fundamental to its economy i don't think it is right that the e.u. can interfere with those laws. but. if you produce in italy and you are italian you should follow italian laws not force things that go against those of us who work here and we do not break our laws we respect them we completely reject g.m. seeds we produce high quality products in former ghana. all the fears over g.m.
crops are why down they are varied they range from minor food allergies to more serious cases like infertility miscarriage birth defects and even cancer the spy felt the e.u. court approved some g.m. seeds usage in italy we discussed it with a number of experts. if not these crops are forbidden because we still do not understand what the consequences are so far there has been no proper and in-depth research for this reason we do not know in five years ten years twenty years what can happen surely this ruling creates a president that makes it urgent and necessary to conduct research and experiments the choice to use g.m. seeds or not should not be dictated by economic political post social parameters but must be dictated only and exclusively by technical choices and scientific analysis there is a very strong conflict of jurisdiction the which cannot be sold the because there
is no upper or toits above the european union the european union knows will prevail on the italian law from now on so with. every. modify farm out the farm we speak a lot about genetically modified organisms because it is a very talented topic because people are interested in the many conflict of jurisdiction between between the euro and italy i don't see as a positive thing this infringement of italian loans by the european union. this hour to remember always new stories being added literally by the minutes on our twitter page i'll see you again around half an hour's time or r.t. programs right ahead. but nobody off yes no marshal in the. islamic state claims it was behind the
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oh and welcome to cross talk or all things considered i'm peter lavelle as the syrian government pushes to finally end the war washington again call. for regime change also the media war regarding north korea and the so-called russia threat. cross talking just some facts i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have exact game a row he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis trap poll and we have dmitri he is a political analyst with sputnik international all right gentlemen as always crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it first i'd like to talk about the tantalizing piece if i can say in
the new york times our team sputnik and russia's new theory of war how the kremlin built one of the most powerful information weapons of the twenty first century and why it may be impossible to use. sounds like the opening of a twilight zone episode mark i read the entire article it's a big investment in time. i don't really know what he was trying to say well i mean some of it i think it's pretty clear that. because of its counter narrative approach to what liberal mainstream pro-american publications like the new york times put out there is no greater threat to russian civilization then well you peter i mean are you know already yeah me as well oh if they're watching in your part of the problem to your right are all or all or all guilty here then this is standard in
full war screed. it was not standard because it's quite exhaustive it is twenty four pages long i printed out and you have printed printed out printed out twenty four pages long it's it's it's quite amazing. as the headline as you pointed out our teaspoon nick and russia's new theory of war basically doing back to the western mainstream media what they've been doing to run a. new theory of war demon. is saying something different is that a new theory of war please note that the russian never says what war first it's always that west you know in ukraine would have war with russia you know in information week of war with russia well the point is that all of that divides the history of our d. into two the good one before two thousand and nine two thousand that and the bad
one which is now. and the author jim rutenberg break i think we're getting there the whole time i didn't know it was a good or bad as he has praise for the period when we could meet valuables and all and what were seen as. the russian media for foreign audiences who hired professionals from b.b.c. and radio. europe well jim wilson burke if you read the american press all the time you will see that american press that record in rio was to do with the russian government and most peaceful putin all the bad wars that you are now using forty eight so maybe in a few years i'm sure he's going to have a few words of praise for us and and the game he will find in are going to perfect example of projecting your values onto a foreign policy conclusion of this is what mistakes did he find that will be a story of a girl of russian origin even in germany who first said that she was raped then it
should have been this is a story that originated with german media local media was picked up by a russian language television network and i believe mistakenly picked up their story ok yes in january two thousand and sixteen which means almost two years ago they quit and find a better accusation against us well it's a massive structure in iraq or you know it was largely so so i mean you would see in new hampshire that's all you got ok that's what you got. there isn't an important point that there is no more difference between the peace time in the war time it's a good do you know the state and the worst are always a poor it's completely new because even during the cold war you have some you have the cold war but it was the cold war you have the second world war and though we are without poor and it's a. drugs war on terror it's own words so what's really interesting to me is that i've been here for the entire history of this television station and i would say
the first time we made an impression was during this crisis of two thousand and eight people started to tune in and then it was really the so-called arab spring i call it the sunni winter we had a different narrative and then it you sort of ukraine in syria and we presented a narrative about those conflicts right there it was starkly stark. different and this is what really really angers them the freedom of speech in the west is a complete illusion and you know i saw in france and depending on the current us contending the opening of all tea in french and so i mean this should be in december i think and there's a real panic because they're going to last. in france you have only one idea in on all the tunnels and during the last campaign it all different it's all the private one we're supporting him of course and so just the idea of having it and
there's a tentative. we are going to support him and mccall for instance even if. you want to put any nobody in and it's a panic. this clearly don't want any competition they don't want their monopoly to be broken but i think the timing of this is interesting i know a little bit of the background story of this is that this was an article that was in the in the making for a while from what i understand stan but its publication now the illegal seizure of russian properties in the united states the assault on the consulate in san francisco and other things is there a pattern you know mark in what to expect here i mean it also comes of the same time as is that they are pushing our t.v. and sputnik the f.b.i. investigations are pushing russian media to register under the foreign agent registration which is a very slippery slope media as foreign agents. of course will be
a mediately met in russia by dentical critics in the west have long critiqued russia's foreign registration act which if you don't get your quote has not made you want to be a media which is a copy of us now they're using this politically and they they have no problem with it being let me know just because you know that when russia. introduced oh foreign agents registration act the western side said but it's not used any longer in the united states so no use for a pack in israel that's for sure knowledge that would you look more excited arabia and we'll see how it works i can assure you that. times will continue in france in some days because usually when they start to complain again it could be any. interest you have to or to. be a week and it would starting from. to protect the public spirit quote unquote by
the powers that be i see there is a pattern here i see this. brush in meddling which have not been proven at all no no ok and not at all. the starting of saying sions taking a property in the united states now this campaign against our team sputnik i have i think of one individual very often julian assange because if you have embassies that are being violated under international law. he could be told picked him to the same procedures in attacks of the united states is done he gets all the same the us were given the ok so it's a deal so every scene is a little against it what you're talking deviance you're talking questioning. the new york times represent the right main decision. that is they have big problem with. question more it drives them to question how dare we question what they say
how dare we quit because we saw their authority if. it was in my service in the u.s. military that made me question more the u.s. government sorry guys but we do question more if we look at this or we look at this twenty four page screen there is one important paragraph in it this is the. where they work the headline is about russia's new theory of war the media and everything page eighteen out of twenty four sixty five paragraphs in we have this in lightning paragraph and our tease coverage of trump has not been wholly uncritical chris hedges the former times times correspondent said trump had a penchant for lying and deception and manipulation and edge schultz pleaded with his guests who's going to stop donald trump i did show called they don't need to maintain the same any oh yes many times right but even though the classified
intelligence assessments seem to the struggle what exactly made the russian out flutes influence on the election so nothing various it described sputnik is sitting at the center of a sprawling social media network all my friends on facebook that included third party intermediaries and paid social media users or trolls but it provided no detail about how that money did and i would point out to everyone watching if you want to blame me you can blame me i gave donald trump the benefit of the doubt because i agreed what he had to say about foreign policy which he has thrown to the wayside but if you want to blame someone at our team for electing donald trump you can blame me because i'm the only one who gave him a fair shot r.t. america very liberal and progressive ok go ahead you well i think salvia raised a very interesting issue in no way that the us propaganda machine be davening
certain people where there is a great american noble bolt it would be deep you know my cave even looks like to not cool enough to moby dick you know which is russia and and and and we just recently had the great story you know down the road try to break convince them you can public that deal with jordan us on which we could. exchanged missed out of hand by the cia exactly in exchange for show you know us all giving us proof that he didn't have his information from russians that came i was moved from you remember ops eight starbuck telling him captain my captain let's return to coleman said let's return to the shoals we don't want to die but one has to go after that moby dick so this is the story with which it with this is what i think the crosstalk is a demon bomb which always brings in the literary angle here gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on just
iraq as a slogan maybe an approach will for the politicians but in reality on the ground iraq is not one and we recognize united and we as kurds are not the ones to be blamed school what is happening even can the rest of iraq and the direct wrong directions that this group. thank you to the game this is how it works now the anime is built around corporations corporations run washington washington media the media over voters elected the businessman to run this country business equals power you must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before . well you know the pirates they were kind of adopted because we were called pirates
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ok gentlemen let's switch gears here let's look at a look at the north korean story here i'm holding here a an article from anti-war not com which i encourage everyone to read gallup poll u.s. majority backs attacking north korea most don't believe the u.s. attack will happen in the next six months. i took interest in this example going to you is the media establishment did it get again did it again you know oh it's. just it just about to come about that tour and that kind of guy is a war and in my opinion you know when you use to us to people where is ukraine. i don't know what. one is and. is not some career i'm not sure they can find where is it but then they know that it's a three and that's what. in my yahoo no it's a threat yes. see this is this is the you know we discussed on this program the danger of the r t but you know it's the it's new york times it's the washington
post they're the danger here they are the danger because they are the drum drums of war and they follow the message they get from the state department from the intelligence community from the deep state you know you can't neglect c.n.n. m s n b c and fox you know the big networks and this sure they're all pushing they love war because it brings them profits right and the hype to war i don't think at least in the short term there is going to be any military action in north korea i think the u.s. is just going to have to accept that north korea now has a strategic deterrent unless they negotiate their way out of it which will mean compromise which they're so loath to do. simply because north korea has far too strong a conventional deterrent so all in the way of artillery pieces on the other side of the d.n.a. at the end. the day they have a so-called ally with china will not allow the regime to go to me the most important thing about this poll numbers i take
a slightly different stance we see that number has increased from forty seven percent in two thousand and three who want military action against or or were willing to accept it to fifty eight percent now but. partisan divide you have eighty two percent of republicans now backing the war whereas thirty seven percent of the democrats backing the work if we go back to a conflict like libya. or any of other obama's military actions we would have seen reversed numbers americans are so partisanly blindly divided that as long as their candidate is leading the country to war they will back the but with those numbers that you see democrats protesting against any of oh i don't know what happen to the anti-war movement in america is right here it's very interesting because. we presumably supporters say they want something something must be done we've heard before here you know this is putting he's putting himself not only into
a strategic corner he's been himself into a media corner is well ok we don't have time to talk about daca and immigration reform but it looks like he's led or be interested apparently clipped my base down again ok and he's getting stuck with this north korean thing that has been turned into a media hype story well you are right i think they have defeated himself when he didn't resist your withdrawal from the stop when he allowed basically you know he's age to be to be fired all of the anti-war people you know if you really mean he will get out of giving up my from the get go absolutely and we have another example i think a positive one rand paul you know congressman from kentucky made this speech when he asked the question you know we're starving seventeen median yemenis you know or they're on the brink of starvation there is an outbreak of cordura what what will they give me is think i. suggest all of our viewers to go to youtube to look
at that speech on the floor of congress it's a brilliant speech specifically on the renewal of the use of the a you m.-f. the. continuing resolution since two thousand and one updated in two thousand and three has been used to justify military action u.s. military action all around the world on the orders of the executive without any congressional approval of versailles on the grounds that it's against al-qaeda or against terror and this is the forever when isis didn't even exist when when he was there when he came into so we would not agree with the libertarian rand paul and everything but he deserves credit for this which everyone should know and i think this speech is also relevant for north korea because rand paul was talking about seventeen media in yemen just starting well because of the new sanctions which presuppose not just their arrest of ships carrying weapons to north korea but also their raft of ships carrying fuel to north korea they're going to freeze twenty
five million people in north korea this winter would not going to save albright say about something like that when it came to iraq i just was this is what. it was worth it if that's what she said a gentleman nikki haley again i'm absolutely convinced that she has advanced degrees in hillbilly studies i'm absolutely convinced that but not satisfied not satisfied i'm reading from an art now i'm satisfied till aside u.s. pushes for regime change as war in syria winds down so the u.s. and nikki haley are not satisfied everyone we all know the words. no no no no no no no no no the rolling stone will have to pay some kind of copyright but i will be pushing. ok it was a good point because they tend to weather the meaning of the advisory opinion and then you are interesting it's exactly the same in france because it was told that
we don't need anymore to have any. of our first. i don't remember the country of iraq newspaper. we need a said that couldn't be part of the transition but what they want school will get is the last this is the first visit on form two which is not so friendly and went through this over the last three don't compromise exactly wordsworth to talk they don't want all of us know because if they compromise they see compromise as weakness ok yes and that's what they do that is end of political to the internet because we're sure they're going to feel you can compromise you have to destroy him completely because the same sort of david the show has during the last six years and so in most be destroyed there is no i tell you there is a league because the west was wrong in everything that it's done in syria they have to have assad gone to justify there is lot more ridhima well i think it's what's need to be caught and for i just loved it well not going to be satisfied until we
see a strong and stable syria and that is not with the police so we're. going to stand a libya syria one other one and we want to throw in there some ali you know yemen syria and his father was not a perfect place but can anyone say that it was not stronger that it was not more stable than it is now when you know when parts of it that controlled by the friends of the united states rand paul i think was right when he basically said in his speech that we were on the same side with isis in syria i could times in place and actually in my opinion it would have some consequences on the rest of the u.s. but it to can the world because they lost in georgia you know sitter lost with assad. in libya russia will be a part of the solution and there was you know. victory in ukraine exactly in my opinion in ukraine within maybe two years it will be more or less or maybe it will be you know it's a little bit earlier but. you're far more optimistic number at the. top of the
question is what the us are going to do further because it usually is a cunt promise the poor to any kind of terrorism sure i'm sure gangsters in. the world and they give the poor it what happened in kosovo for instance to give they could have. been in a no that can do that's a promise the world to the opposition in syria for instance and some very close people to us that they left their lives to paris their lives to work on camera close to langley. says they were sure they would there would be a president and minister in the in some months is a lower there would be an interesting in the very life it was a lot and not on one side he had just set the bar with ukraine i was a pessimist until saakashvili got back to a few days ago these days kelly no socks no everything explained who is go ahead saakashvili is the former georgian president who was hired by does hold a share of the hold of georgia. and while it was here george you know therefore i
don't know for embarrassment for our biggest political prisoners he organized to deal with the ukrainian citizenship by the great democrat president poroshenko he was the point that the governor about their son after fifty people were killed there brought into live finale nationalists which other corruption and and i like that they can take out of corruption and when secretary baker all want what i brought but are shank or stripped him off he has ukrainian citizenship that great democrat who of course will never agree to bring your strip in sorest top of each or they were seated at your right and now. by chance with their parents of the biggest greenie and factions from the bottom and illegally across the border back to your green and some call he is now growing into the main overtone and you have to push a force to his way back in after him of some right wing ultra nationalists absolute conclusion conclusion i was a pessimist i saw it at last for many years now that sort of saakashvili as bad as
it is going to have some things in two hours we know it will take is a good one i really don't understand is that i thought saakashvili was going to be groomed to run venezuela after the forced regime chain. yeah i mean what you're learning say is that i think that your friend is saying you know i guess he is a part of the international elite who was built by the us you know to to to to go in all the countries are going to have to try to control you know you don't so he says it was a poll fake politician that's yet to be this is also a fake politician and it was interesting when he was you know this is a vice governor who was a. young girl you won't. see him are you going to get the ball so you don't know if there are you or a few of you have such you know. elite were able to lead any country you want to give them ok after the ukraine it would be as you say maybe even israel and after
they can go back you know i'd only been friends you know maybe you know there are the you know it's not such it's going to criticize him thanks to saakashvili. streetcar south of the russian citizenship so that and saved us from a lot of trouble so. i can't really talk is really is the right dime a dozen he's a typical neo con neo liberal he's one of mccain's proteges clients the strong man he well you know by the night however is going to take on his his story there jake. trapper just loves john mccain you know mimics anything else to say i bet he's going to be a big supporter of president is the problem with the ukraine is a bow to good losers of course from russia and i think and i had you know i was you know generally really going to. run out of time but as part of the program many thanks to my guest here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here argue see you next time and remember crosstalk problems.
what politicians do you should. we do. they put themselves on the line and they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or somehow want to be rich. that you'd like to be for us this is what before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters about how. things should be. done but i got a lot of muscle and. islamic states claims it was behind the manchester terror attack by under the dash to the north front so kill the priest every time a terrorist attack happens all these people are out there screaming and i says so
bad someone needs to do something against them and for me it was like yeah why don't something. that. gives a result as long. as that is the case that. the challenge of a channel for policing channels hafiz whom hope you sound has got a. blue cloak room isn't. moving. the international community continues to be emphasize about what the iraq or united iraq as a slogan may be an approach will for the politicians but the reality on the ground in iraq is not one and we recognize united and that has courage that was to be
blamed school what is happening in the rest of iraq under the direct wrong directions that iraq has gone through. here's what people have been saying about redacted and this is a. real early show i go out of my way to you know what it is that really packs the . yampa is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same we are apparently better than. the c. people you've never heard of love back to the night president of the world bank. sent us an e-mail.
the lovely woman. who knew she had no idea. this headline stories donald trump pushes for reform of the united nations saying the world body has not reached its full potential. in recent years the united nations has not reached its full potential because of bureaucracy and mismanagement . also at this hour the u.k. media is abuzz with speculation over the london choose bombing suspects c.c.t.v. footage emerges theory to show also. more than.