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we're going underground on the day a representative of the victorian government in syria takes to the stage at the u.n. general assembly after years of combating british backed rebels coming up with. floor speech so far goldman sachs's winning and the british people on losing. his party conference in the southeast of england we. voted against the iraq war former labor cabinet minister lord chris smith outgoing chair of the regulator of british advertising. plus the queen of mean on theresa may donald trump a seventy eight percent increase in hate crime in the u.k. winner of ru paul's drag race insults comedian. what is legal in twenty nine u.s. states to be fired for your sexual orientation and as hurricane maria continues its trail of destruction we speak to the caribbean office building their communities
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through celebration after decades of neo liberal imperial rule from what's been. the symbol coming up in today's going underground well what was u.k. prime minister theresa may all about when she decided to use one of the world's greatest basilicas to outline bricks it plans ahead of tomorrow's german election we caught up with. him about that and what he thought of his friend donald trump's latest broadsides against north korea still being denied talks with the great powers niger you've been warning all along that european countries that all referendums on leaving the european union never get to leave the european union is that what the florence speech is very much i mean look today is a great day for westminster it's a great day for the political class great day for goldman sachs. international business because effectively what the prime minister is saying is we're going to stay a full member effectively of the european union for a further two years and it's a two fingers up to. seventeen point four million poorly educated unwashed voters
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that voted for. the poorly educated. but that's what they told us that's what they told us all the way through we've been told but as voters with stupid with pig ignorant we don't understand the real world and this is the establishment trying to regain control ironic that it won't even be enough as regards european bureaucrats in the negotiations anyway well that's the point isn't it but if she thinks by saying we'll pay twenty billion pounds over the course of the next two years that somehow is going to satisfy mr vanier i mean she's all moonshine because all he's going to say is you've paid for two years access to the single market we want this big divorce built on top frankly i do not think anything she says today is going to satisfy anybody in brussels but when does the so-called deep state start telling brussels be a bit nicer to britain because we want them in well that i think has to come from
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a different direction that i think has to come from member state governments you know the new german chancellor except and i think the sensible thing would be for the member states to say to. you are acting as a european union in your own interests you're no longer representing the needs of individual companies and workers around the member states of europe you know they may have managed to reverse the irish referendum the danish referendum ultimately they can delay this is long as they want we are going to leave at some point in time the will of the british people is strong and we are going to leave what i don't want is this for this to drag out for year after year after year and it looks now little be at least five years. before anything fundamental changes the same old german chancellor arguably so it may not happen it looks if there's if there is no hope if there is no hope. any reasonable position coming from brussels then the
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time comes for us to say you know what this is a there's a great big world out there there's america australia india good those things but they didn't even show you that there were proposals for a single european military and compulsory your joining in the past few weeks i thought your speech was pretty extraordinary last week i mean i mean this is a full state run from the. taking even you know we even i said i did say to mr younger afterwards that actually a huge favor because now ever there was a second referendum after that speech we'd never vote to rejoin just one on a. lot of worries about his response to north korea what do you think about how he's dealing with that is that power in washington again no this is different north korea is different. donald trump has from the time he was elected been genuinely concerned not just for america but for south korea japan genuinely concerned for
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the world about what the intentions of this north korean regime are and what he's trying to do is to rally support from russia from china from everybody to do everything they can to stop this guy getting full nuclear capability and is. as guilty as. rolling back things that was said or things that the electorates want i mean he said on nafta he is leaving it was held back has not been donald himself because i know that he's resolute of those things that he was elected on back is the judiciary was held trump back is congress what's held trump back is the deep state. well if the deep state is trying to overthrow donald trump in the united states it arguably felt satisfied with itself when the british labor party was destroying the lives of tens of millions of people in one war after another under tony blair ahead of next week's labor conference we. also caught up with one of his
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cabinet colleagues on the green it westminster former u.k. culture secretary chris smith well it's with chris thanks for coming out on the green for us before we get into advertising just remind us of why attorney blair cabinet minister would have opposed the iraq war given obviously in the past few days or been so many casualties in ongoing violence in iraq i knew in the period two thousand and two two thousand and three as we were approaching the iraq war i knew that it was the wrong thing to do. the sanctions against iraq would be working the weapons inspectors hadn't finished their work they hadn't found any weapons of mass destruction the consequence is i foretold in a number of speeches in the house of commons we're going to be diet i have never more regretted having been proved right well. you're leaving your post as a regulator of advertising perhaps regulator of fact as regards europe and using
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we need to regulate a very claims made by the government i think we probably do need to regulate the press of course the media. have a look at claims that are made by political parties especially during election time and for example during the referendum when all sorts of wild claims were made specially by the leave campaign but also to a separate extent by the remain campaign the political parties have always refused to accept any sort of regulating the site over the claims that they're making to be clear your role as running the advertising standards association meant you had no remit to be able to control political advertising in there and we had no remit atoll for political advertising and a lot of people assumed we did and got. in touch with this to complain but i'm
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afraid. because of our constitution we wouldn't able to do anything about it to political parties can buy in their advertising political parties can say whatever they want in their advertising at the moment and that's that's the problem and it's one of the things that's made the public very skeptical now i know. in some of the educations by your agency came a lot on down a lot on gambling ironic that a former culture secretary was in a government that basically put casinos and gambling dens all round the country should be adjudicating on gambling the loosening up of those rules generally happened actually after i'd left the cabinet what we are seeing at the moment is a mode of public concern not just about what gambling advocates say but about the sheer quantity you weren't able to do anything about it is. when will the
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able to effect that because the lord of the land commits it to happen do you think i mean the royal society college of psychiatrists cool labour's plans to expand gambling right across britain in britain a recipe for disaster and it's shameful wreck would you labour's on spreading gambling up another country i wouldn't say it was a shameful record i don't think it was the right decision to have made all governments make mistakes that was i think a mistake to open it up quite so freely presumably one of your proudest. achievements as a cabinet minister was to ensure free museum. admittance and it is to some some of them i mean you're obviously very worried about bricks it of and you think britain is going to become one giant museum of to bricks and i'm very worried about bricks that i think do enormous damage to our economy and to society. militarism in florence is saying they can be
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a deal we can still have the good things i would much rather when we see the actual terms of whatever the deal it's. our exit from the european union what the future trade arrangements are going to be when we actually see the terms of the deal then i think we should go back to the public and say now we know exactly what this means let's hear whether you wanted to go ahead but isn't this part of a brand new future for britain. part of the high tech economy you know the german call been previously of course opposed the european union for its present your liberalism the better left. aren't you just being a bit like city khan the mayor now battling these new things that britain has to embrace i think excepting from the european union will diminish britain went in hans but. it will mean that we've voluntarily removed ourselves
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from a number of. a can. a very very important grouping of countries of which we are naturally of course they're a bit sabir ocracy that everyone would want to trade that's on the table and emmanuel mccall is talking very seriously about change with a single you'll use as a three year period when you know me and we will. debate again what's the mood about it in the house of lords. i think that the house of lords is it is very skeptical about the merits of bracks it. will not stand in the way of the will of the people but nonetheless wants it to happen in the right way and will scrutinize very carefully what the government is up to especially of course with this so-called great repeal bill which gives the the government.
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enormous powers to ride roughshod over any sort of parliamentary scrutiny and overlords like you and i think the house of lords will have something very serious to say about that. thank you. after the break. should the trans community be allowed to win this to leave us with a tree we quiz the winner of ru paul's drag race you know. about equality before the law. presidents and love is power we speak the final is just stunning london design week into a call of activism to reconnect with the african diaspora. going underground. nobody got. a marshall and. islamic states claims it was behind the month just a terror attack by the militants front so kill the priest every time
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a terrorist attack happens all these people are out there screaming isis so bad someone needs to do something against them and for me yeah why don't something and . do. it all as long. enough that it will be challenging the. chinese hafiz whom. i was going to. live in misery.
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here's what people have been saying about reject. this. better than. ever heard of. the world bank. welcome back not just class but identities are under attack during the continuing western economic crisis if the spanish attack on catalonia this week was a manifestation. repeated refusals on refugees ahead of her speech in florence yesterday and yet another was arguably mainstream media's privileging of u.s. deaths over commonwealth caribbean nations hit by climate change this hurricane season
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but all the complexity of an imperial past is currently on show in brixton in south london internationally famous for its nine hundred eighty one uprising against them we sent senior producer pete bennett down there to the area where property prices have reportedly risen by seventy six percent since the early two thousand. and. lasting change well i'm here on the revival trail a collaboration between long design festivals independent businesses and create preserving afro caribbean culture here in the u.k. . the. behind the scenes on design organization and the struggle to put. across the country i've come to meet. first generation and the trail. to the power of. transcend class race and
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a type of post crush of steroids for us carnival has always been about celebration and that's very key celebration in terms of our cultural expression of viewpoint and you know carnival i guess in some ways become a political stage which plays out because of the things going on in the background so issues come up like greenville polarized people's minds or focus on a particular point but really what's going to know our community the things that need to resolve a much broader than that so we get on with what we need to do in iraq in the communities and that's created independent organizations independent body and that happened groceries and it was all connected and have longevity so we don't have to rely on whether politicians or whether for insurances or brands come in and change their their groups const consisted in term what we need to do to build a community to begin to to allow the visual loss to express that so the tragedy of
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grand folks how all that really exposes the growing rift between power and the people black visual reminder of the historic fight for equality and independence. it's to make a visual artist a form of caution in the british front groups like mandy you've been sampled by hip hop's de la soul to fiji's we met at brixton front room to discuss growing up in the post slavery society and how activism became part of daily life you know activism it's not just when you look at people protesting or demonstrating activism is. how to survive you know when we first came here of the banks who lend lucky people money. how did we even buy houses to live in the relationship we have will be each other was a kind of act because without it we wouldn't not have survived it's like coming together putting money in a pot and each week one of those persons would take all the money over
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a fifteen b. period and they would each get their put unity to save enough money to put a deposit on our house and that's how we did it and that was actually we didn't sit back and wait for the. but i'm still not it was fine to give black people money for mortgages so be an activist say so for instance record in particular people you know community. with important to us that stood for something else that's going to celebrating our traditional values that's in point as a way of activism so it doesn't mean it's not a political statement in the sense that where opposing something that you know western western idea was done it's more about sellable in celebration at that you know position because the viewpoint of an african centered thought is very different to european so you find people not called gabriel or trying to create
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those elements and keep that expression within the costumes within the mass band parades so that so it's not so it's not lost calling gabriel a carnival specialist but decades of experience a traditional african caribbean sculptures because jeeves displayed all over the world all work is not instead for instance one piece of work depends and if we do in a mosque you know a mosque to take a week to do we. use in natural material you know even touching the material make gives you that sense of for. because you would give it not just the special on a piece a big piece of wood it's more than just me creating something i mean there's a fourth there's a force behind it i almost feel like it is the ancestors guided us to do what we do you know the culture is actually defined by those who call in life and heroes and
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to me that then my members were era of western europe because it was the birthplace of white supremacy and racism in that way for the first time they defined black people african people as not people in the fine arts. is one of the areas that is completely neglected say for instance if you want to go and study for british life you're very very rarely you're going to find black models into if you do is going to be some exotic expression or notion of what black is because this in part class because of foreign autism over close orientated young people in my time going to law school was. a rarity as more than a music radio were down in use not really you would have sports and cetera et cetera but indigenously just like any other culture we have people who want to express themselves in a particular way. and values within our community and they're totally ignored the
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mainstream essentially is the ear for the benefit of those own and control them in the street and it's not in the interest of african people being proud to be african the good friend of mine is actually doing a series of talks at the national gallery. looking at blocks in western art in the national gallery and i was so upset with him when i went on the tour because all he showed me. blocks on the periphery blocks the servants' blocks in a cream statement saying i don't want to see you that i don't want that to be elevated that is the reality of white supremacy and the national gallery is like a futile to white supremacy because when you look at its relationship to. the side of western europe you realise that that's all it's interested in with. hurricane. and hurricane irene now tearing through the caribbean and decimating so
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many of these islands you've had experience yourself you've got family that how important is it that say the arts will play a role now and the regeneration. i've witnessed the role of the you know its order around were around europe and america and the first was on a massive wrong regenerates you know areas so some of the expertise needs to be taken down we're going to have a long period of stagnation in the caribbean off the hurricane and the yachts can be complaints from only helping to regenerate food culture for bringing attention and bringing back first moves and celebration back to different areas in the caribbean to help generate money to generate interest back into those countries there is a dichotomy going on so people know i'm going to invest and take from work with people where they can benefit in terms of trade so me personally i don't take too
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much to know what the government do or don't do because i know people would be you know would it be and rebuilding. senior producer pete bennett well from the tragedies of hurricane maria to the hurricane that is b.s. twenty four hours after president trump visited alabama in the southern united states i'm joined by insults comedian and winner of rubles drag race we had to deal rio's upcoming international tour believe me don't be a good deal rio kicks off in new zealand in the bank welcome to going underground so you're touring britain and ireland in twenty eight we're going to sell a whole new fashion line across britain fashion week no i got the wrong note i think that's the wrong notes i haven't branched out to fashion a lot yet i mean obviously anybody who goes on a reality show becomes famous and then starts talking merchandise like the car dash cams but actually have talent so i could never be a car dash we invite the questions on by the way to. to claim. credit for them oh
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yeah they come in all that great you know but presumably you're going to tell british audiences about the great new leader of the free world all around brisbane doing really great things are sexy as president the smartest president we've ever had genius and i have to say i'm just so proud of america right now but it will seriously look if you think of his travels back in the military i mean should trans people in the united states be allowed to kill trans people in iraq well i think if you pay taxes you should never do whatever how you want to do you know this fires like this how i feel about everything when it comes to gay marriage or banning people if they want to do it let them do it how does it affect your life and so i don't know what that says about the driveway they're pretty well they're a mess they're a mess i mean they're a big mess and maybe you've got your own troubles here too so don't act like it's all good everything's fine you know unless you're exactly l.g.b. d.n.a. crimes are up seventy percent seventy percent of those four years according to one report you think again part of the problem is i mean you know from you know you won this great thing in new people in the media big metropolitan cities think
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everything is liberated and for the never dull totally up to where is actually outside of london after the things aren't quite the same a hundred miles north or south of the studio but that's exactly how tom got elected you know i mean here it was in pockets i mean i lived in los angeles and new york and new orleans and there's normal people there but it's that middle america area that came out and voted for him and that's when you go how the hell did this happen it's kind of insane for those who have seen the film from a couple of years ago would it be different or can be no trying to move to a small town in texas well not in texas no i mean we're actually filming a sequel in october i end up in russia at a science fair because you know of course they hate the gays as well so this is a perfect opportunity for set up you know a really bad situation we're going to fill in. this which is no. shore i'm going to go right over to russia no we're filming some in new york and some in dallas texas yeah but exterior shots because homosexuality is illegal in russia in some states in the united states. it's not it's twenty nine states number and
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twenty nine states and united states that it's legal to be fired for being gay which is kind of insane i mean does that work with the u.s. constitution who knows there's always a loophole for something i mean how how is any of this possible does it make any sense but most people don't realize that that literally if you come out at your job that they can fire you just because your sexual orientation because when it comes to issues arguably a great. i call them has become chelsea manning. is alleged to be in the wiki leaks whistleblower secrets of state do you think that's been the. i mean the good thing for. you to win justice why i think we need to get information from somewhere because if we were not getting it from the news sources i mean everything is you know sensationalized in a reality show that's what we're living in over there now so it's good to actually get some information they're not telling us so i think we need people like chelsea to give us the information that we need you think for a long time the communities on both sides of the united states were getting a bit complacent and the whole job is waking them up actually i definitely think so i don't base a good thing well you know i think i think we need i'm not saying we need but i think this situation has got people i mean look at facebook everyone every day i
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have friends that are constantly posting about political stuff that never discussed it you know the past few years so i think it's a hot button right now which is really important to shake up what's going on like this can't happen this is insane what we're living in you know and i think it's important for people to especially young people who think oh my vote doesn't count obviously it does because what is forty seven percent in america i didn't even vote which is how the how much the blame is the media the statement the b.b.c. here is in a bit of trouble for it medically in debates between and the rights and pro that if . you. ideas in the first place but in the u.s. routinely well i mean i think it. could be the. answer to reports that you know certain channels won't even discuss things that are going on you know like right now with this hurricane situation that's happening and some some of the stations will discuss it fully and some of them don't even mention it so it's quite fascinating they just pick and choose what they want it's either hillary's book that's out or trump did this today or and then you've done it and there was a hurricane and you're like wait a minute wait a minute what's more important here you know obviously not hillary's book but it's
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just trump helping people out with that oh and he did help out anybody rolled his sleeves his wife was down to let it was just with her fancy shoes at this at a flooded area like that's that's typical you're against rules to live as an american but that doesn't make it a big news story already i don't miss your air raiding the ground to actually put water seep in there that would be helpful but other than that you know so you know i'm serious as the results show up at the united states yes. do you think the kind of comedy you do in your tour and so it helps for. you but understanding that well you got a laugh i mean you got something first i'm a man in a way i have to laugh at myself yes this is awake but also not as a hair choice but i am in those moments not realizing that you've got to laugh at something and right now it's so depressing over there you've got to do what you've got to do and so for me it's one of those things where i've been doing this for twenty one years so it's kind of like you get it if you don't some people say oh it's too much you need a good night people don't like look there's nothing that brings people go to more
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than laughter they get to be donald trump and i don't even get political in the show i mean because you never know who's out you know his political i mean we don't get political i don't discuss him on that level i mean because then you never know who's in the audience i mean recently in america there was amy schumer and want to sykes about issues with hecklers in the audience because they made trump jokes and they went crazy and it's like you're really don't know who's out there that might be a gay republican who thinks trump is lovely so i don't want to. you know i'll talk about myself and make fun of that which of course is just tracking from what's really going on sometimes you need an hour away from the madness negatory oh thank you and your touring australia in november then the united states then in britain is that is correct you've got my schedule thank you thank you for that you're with your monday when we speak to legendary british photographer terry o'neill about capturing some of the twentieth century's most iconic figures from the likes of frank sinatra the moment i leave to churchill we feel that even touched by social media was you know monday fourteen years to the day of the death of the demystifying. the palestinian school or the blacklisted from what mainstream media
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has critiques of nato foreign. ministers. this is what happens to pensions in britain. watched. as a report. this with me and many. of the other. but. it was. kind of a. sign of this yes. there's no she refused.
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to. wear the blue. just a good area for immigrants and it's miss we never really know for sure but this has been a. nephew so i. know. when i started going. in a show of military might the u.s. blind to its north korea's east coast while at the un pyongyang promised in ruthless measures if it's attacked. with less than twelve hours to go live in a special election on phoenix's the main cause they found the final.


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