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you that what we gossip the public by itself of the most important news today. i'm off the back as he tells me you are not cool enough and let's not fight their products. beasts of the hawks that we along with are on the watch. hello and welcome to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle drawn alltime peace making history again this time in the middle east russia has banned from the two thousand and eighteen winter olympics is this politics on steroids and do neo cons and how saakashvili have no shame.
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cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have exclusive for he's the director and writer for the duran dot com and we have victrola which is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics or a german crosstalk roles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated the review of the ricochet effect of the donald trump recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel continues and we all expected that here mark i understand you've been mining the pearls of wisdom coming from that woman that has a ph d. in who believe studies nikki haley at the united nations i have to say that this stand up comedian that the u.s. is sent to the security council is even funnier than the last one although i know she's largely taking her crib notes she's got some some singers that she's extemporaneously advice or some ringers here so. nikki haley the u.s.
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has done much more to the u.n. i'm sorry. has done much more to damage the prospects for middle east peace then there were vents them we will not be a party that the us no longer stands by when israel was unfairly attacked in the united nations when has the us ever. and the united states will not be lectured to by countries that lack any credibility when it comes to treating both israeli much of credibility i think those are the key words so i guess the u.s. is not going to lecture itself being as the one that it lacks the most credibility when it comes to mediating between the that it's the transit parent here is that you know. there was the security council was called an emergency meeting everyone discussed it and we had. one country one united nations defending it i mean it's been roundly criticized as we all expected it would be it is very very rare that an
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american president makes a decision that has absolutely no benefit for his own country and this is exactly such a decision this decision is not beneficial to the united states in fact it's very detrimental to the u.s. diplomacy in the middle east into the u.s. position in the middle east and the overall in the world i think you can even go further alex i think you know when. put into a precarious position i mean like it or not the united states and israel are close allies here but trump is actually endangering israel in much the same way that the american ally in the in asia south korea is being threatened because you know it donald trump is making a decision over their heads as it were in really defining with their security interests are which they are not. aligned is donald trump seems to understand how the world of the world works and sure i mean he set the middle east on fire with
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this announcement and i just can't imagine how they're going to move the u.s. . embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem without billions and billions of dollars in security i mean it's just going to be a complete mess it's going to be a complete mess but more than that i think we should focus troops decision that it was very much a populist decision we may all criticize it but when you look at the mainstream media and you look at a lot of the u.s. population there for this decision they don't know that the new idea when i do this is going to say they don't understand that you political absolutely but when you look at even obama even clinton they were for moving the embassy to jerusalem they just didn't have the guts to do it and here comes trump who just comes in and says let's do it and so i mean people in general the u.s. the public and a lot of the political class the mainstream media are behind this decision and they've expressed that they're behind the decision are we see something about why clinton and bush and so forth who who made promises of moving the embassy and then
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do it the weighed the pros and cons and decided not to do it based on the ones where they can't because that's why they don't have that waiver it was it was a great a get out of jail free card why did they make those promises they wanted to please the israeli lobby in washington but at the same time not do not make their financial decisions to the decision that their menfolk to the u.s. foreign policy but what does this decision see about washington to be it says a lot about the rising to the front of the israeli lobby in d.c. this is the only first and foremost reason why this decision was made now there's also the hearing is going to determine if there's another lobby that's up and coming there and it's the saudi one here how does this work mark here because i mean rhetorical e of course the saudis have come out against this ok i'm not sure they're actually committed to it and maybe this is all part of. a big plan for peace in the middle east which we know nothing about yeah i think this is just the trump administration stepping over its own feet and managing to unite the entire. so you have the world
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outside of the us and israel against it even in this case saudi arabia even if mostly rhetorically now i'm going to borrow from both. victor and from the us government officials on playbook they love to lecture other countries officials from other countries that what they do is not in the interests of their own people well this move is not in the interests of the american people but it is in the interests of donald j. j. trump and this is why it may be. because he's in a political one right now i've got if you'll bear with me here trump's twelve steps why this was done all right so trump won it distracts the mainstream media from the russia gate witchhunt to it placates and pleases the foreign policy elite on both sides of the aisle remember chuck schumer the democratic minority leader in the
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senate encouraged to do that and he's quite proud about that number three it plays to trump's domestic base number four and finally ends the longstanding fiction of the us as a neutral middle east peace in the good mediator number five it forces the arab regimes to remember palestine they'd all rather get really really number six it benefits russia at the end of the day as the whole world looks aghast at the us number seven it fulfills obama's campaign declaration that jerusalem is the undivided capital of israel i'm old enough to remember when obama promised to declare that during his campaign number eight it has the neo cons ready to declare him the second coming number nine it has at least some potential to make the fragile palestinian political roof occasion a reality number ten it's pretty much sure that restart a new into fatah eleven it will result in the deaths of many israelis lebanese and
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even probably more. stinney ns and last but not least it's even further destabilizes the middle east or north africa powderkeg just like everything else the us does in the region. thank you for that comprehensive list of let's talk about the russia being banned from the year the two thousand and eighteen olympics and south korea in my introduction as it is politics is poisonous politics on steroids this is part of its worst it's a combination of it's an injection of. politics into sports into international sports it's very obvious that the russian the russian team being banned from the olympics in south korea has everything to do with the new cold war being waged by the united states and its allies against moscow and very little to do with the actual booking scandals let's remember let's go back to the nineteen early one nine hundred eighty s. now in one thousand. more than fifty countries boycotted the olympics in moscow
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but back then they were more honest they didn't talk about any other use they honestly say everybody politics it easily is political they don't like that the soviet union was in afghanistan and they didn't like that moscow was challenging the u.s. wouldn't you know wouldn't listen to american orders and they boycotted the olympics in four years in only so you must go to the scene with its allies and boycott the olympics in the u.s. and then the cold war ended and for for about two decades the olympics went on fine but then you called the war erupted and we see this it again it seems to me this is like desperation throw in sports right now ok to isolate russia i mean i'm not expert on this doping scandal or scandal if it's real or not but it for me when i think of the more winter olympic games i can't i can't think of it without what
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the one of the winter games superpowers russia being there it changes the. dynamic completely wall for politics no politics changes that have a completely and i think politics has has found a way to destroy just about every institution in orchestration that we once thought was maybe neutral or was about peace or you know a fair playing field it's not and i think that's that's kind of the what sums up the trouble presidency to me is even with jerusalem even with with hollywood now and the sexual abuse scales even with the olympics all the masks are off we're starting to see everything very transparently and with the olympics anyone that thought the olympics was not about politics was not about doping that the athletes were not doping all the athletes were doping is a fool we know that the athletes a dope we look at tyson look at justin gatlin carl lewis marion jones the u.s. had balco instill the convent feeding drugs to every single athlete olympics. baseball players football players everyone was busted from barry bonds to mark
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required to all of them were busted doping nothing but the media will tell you the russians are genetically prone to doping that we were just quoting the james clapper the for you former us the net is director of national intelligence who said russians are genetically predisposed towards to see things can you imagine if it was a different being waged against any other ethnic group like in the u.s. and what would happen to an official you are exactly well it's different for russians because most of phobias the anti-semitic exactly right but. but let's be clear there was doping in russia like there is in most countries right there is evidence of that but this politicized move to give and the russians i mean what you all know why isn't it in common sense would be if an individual is caught don't i mean that person should be banned or put put on some kind of timeline to get back in what why is it an entire country because it because of geopolitics of course because the u.s. is angry at syria and the u.s. and blocking the u.s.
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is pushed from seizing control of at least all of ukraine but this is this is very specific this is all based on a report by this kind of security contractor agency the world anti-doping agency which formed out its report to one canadian lawyer who based all of his report on the testimony jump in it sounds it sounds like we're talking about other fakery dossiers a special education in the u.s. a bit of a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news staying with our team. so there's no the all important as a person but he is important in those far as this leaving would cause a risk in the regime falling apart so indeed the americans are americans so much
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less to have him leave old oil from time to time they keep saying at the again so in the end i think most countries are accepting that he will stay. the we have a great team but we need to strengthen before the free float world cold and you're better than a legend to keep exploited. back. in ninety ninety two that my qualify for the european championships at the very last moment no one believed in us but we won and i'm hoping to bring some of that weighting spirit to the r.c.t. . recently i've had a lot of practice so i can guarantee you that peter schmeichel will be on the best since my last will call that. thousand zero zero zero zero hitter.
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left left left more or less ok that's really good. welcome back to cross talk we're all things we consider on peter ball to mind you we're discussing some real news.
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ok gentlemen serve our attention to some recent events with yemen we just recently we had a president run by asking through intermediaries the saudis to break the blockade of yemen as far as we know u.n. agencies report that that hasn't happened why what's is this just optics here or because i mean you know i think some of our viewers saw this really. lack of responsibility from c.b.s. on sixty minutes a few weeks ago by watching america's role in the probably the worst manmade human humanity humanitarian disaster in the world today look at the asli media optics of play. the obama administration reaction to the bombing. in the here and then
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a couple years ago when the white house essentially. they're going to look over the military cooperation between washington and going to see how they can influence so if you read it to stop or to modify it but it doesn't see if it's campaign against yemen well where did that go nowhere why and we see the same thing happening to the united states supports saudi arabia and its allies in their in their fight against who he is in yemen the united states government knows full well what is happening here something that is close to genocide. mass. mass killer diseases exact i don't completely know and that book and you know when the united states once it's a waste to do or not do something it calls them and it tells them what to do or not to do and usually it has an effect. it's really interesting i existed when we had
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to listen come out in the last few days a. century telling the saudis they should be more thoughtful about how they behave in the middle east when they're advocating you know. when i read the law you know maybe i'd like to see the entire transcript but i read that line i was really kind of taken about coming in about the the the degree of this tragedy going on in yemen in the having that kind of rhetoric come out of the secretary of state i think it was complete optics i think you're right i think made that announcement moments after he made the announcement about jerusalem and i don't know what was going through his teams his communication teams. when he made that announcement i think he made it knowing that they're not going to push to pull back there so it's just going to check and i said i just it was just kind of throwing the arab world a bone after he just made a bombshell announcement about what. i didn't expect yeah you know but it was just i don't think anyone expects you know how to rip the poker let's change gears here and when i have to cover so much here we had the russian federation i think as an
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intermediary for north korea telling us that the north koreans are interested in direct talks with the united states i bet you didn't hear that in mainstream media it's very important very interesting considering the saber rattling that we have and media every time. something happens in north korea well we also have the ruling bombastic statements between twitter feed and kim jong on through his state media representatives insulting each other back and forth but. there are serious people starting to be worried about you know how tense things have got in this situation and that is revealed by discussions through select national security reporters in the mainstream media this week that have pointed out that whatever our politicians trump and many others before him and right now have tried to present the north korean leadership including kim jong un as
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a madman is insane you know like trunk himself that is being now dismissed by the cia and the pentagon's own assessment which is now being brought forward and highlighted that they say that he is a rational actor acting in his company's national country's national security interests and that he intends to use a nuclear weapon only as the current to protect his family and. north korean programs for years and he said to move direct the. programs that every time we do it it's the same program because the demands of the north koreans have always are the same they want security guarantees. and we start as far as negotiations let's remember what the north korean approach was one became president they were rated to come and north korean delegation was ready to come to washington called direct negotiations with state department representatives there
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were visas almost issued to the north koreans but then at the last moment the visas were involved they that in the north korean american negotiators never came to you now just in the last several months there was. a report to. the united states tells me that their message to pyongyang saying that if north korea holds off making again you a missile tests conducting getting new missile firings for two months then that you know. what sort of go into a negotiation mode well north actually if you notice before the last picture of yourself in that number if he'll go off for two months exactly that week and then they understood that the united states has not kept its word yeah you know but one of the into alex one of the things i think is interesting is that the russian angle on all this i think believe it or not the russians are trying to convince the americans you better wake up there's still time for
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a collision because we have two leaders that are spoiling for some kind of fight for p.r. and i think trump is foolishly got himself into a mess these babies don't think you're going to make it i mean what mark said earlier i think i think you're starting to see some pockets of the mainstream media start to recognize that korea north korea is acting in a very sane matter i mean you had talked across in due to a five minute segment on north korea where he admitted that a lot of what north korea is doing. can be attributed to what hillary clinton the obama team did to libya and what the what happened to saddam in that the minute you get rid of your weapons were coming after you had pat buchanan write a piece about how north korea is acting in that they are acting in a very predictable the very same matter so you are starting to see pockets of the media starting to speak out and say wait a minute not everything is as it's being presented here you know mark. kelly former
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president of georgia the fugitive as well as a lot of other things and part of his title here he's in the news again why well. after being deposed by his own people this u.s. backed neo liberal strongman. he was briefly a hipster for a while floating around with him as a bird and then when the putsch resumes backed by the west seized power in ukraine he was brought in to be the proconsul of odessa. a russian majority city in southern south central with a mandate to do what the mandate as a whole area says this is to stop corruption at least publicly even though he's wanted on corruption and abuse of charges power towards his own country well he stepped on some wrong political toes in ukraine it got a little bit of a big head. tried to imagine himself as prime minister of ukraine was removed from that his ukrainian citizenship was removed he had renounced his georgian
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citizenship in order to take ukrainians engine ship he was without state he managed to force his way back into the ukraine. through the border against the wishes and east end resident and threatened to jump off of a building to block his behavior is definitely bizarre this isn't the first time i hear that kind of behavior there are some issues with his tie but that's of the from the story c.n.n. and i think what's. really good imitation ok so. another interesting. view of this from lee senior fellow of the plenty council. who just. wrote in his social media account he protests that the u.s. taxpayers are actually playing for his activities in ukraine and essentially funding that protesters are protesting in his support in kiev so it's an
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open admission. by a member of u.s. think tank organization close to the u.s. government the u.s. government actually funds political activities but second street and his supporters in ukraine we might not know every one else would you. know it all traces back to john mccain if you ask me i mean it was all about we're all georgians now when it was. raining the students were all you created out so i think you know you're the more you see mccain start to lose his mind and go a little crazy the boy who's the patron of us as we see him also start to lose his might and go a little crazy this is the real problem is that the neo cons in washington and also in europe now because we're starting to see carl bildt all this to mess with their own brand of exceptionalism neo cons in europe they are grooming these proxies in the former countries of the soviet union who are so on hinged part of the reason they're so on hinged is they're selected and groom the by these neocons
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unexceptional who are themselves so unhinged and this is you know pushing towards confrontation with russia this is not going to stop we're going to keep seeing figures like mikhail saakashvili like like. be the neo nazi speaker of the rada in the ukraine. but it's interesting you know i mean i notice that you know bloomberg you know not the most friendly towards russia they don't openly questioning. the. the the idea of continuing to back some people like saakashvili commutes the wrong guy to back meaning there could have been someone else there but you know so long the darling of the neocon saakashvili is not being groomed to be the president of ukraine he no he is he actually the us never considered him somebody who could become president of ukraine if he is not ukrainian his psychological. stance sort of outlook is somewhat
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different than the ukraine is what they expect so he is being used as a pressure every tool as leverage against the current government of ukraine which is also controlled by the us to make them do certain things that washington wants resist this is how the us and they're getting pressure and pushing to essentially this is the way the united states government operates its different colonial states it uses different partitions puts them against them against each other and then uses that situation to get the policy of the washington once you have elections. right about one thing the west controls who took power in ukraine and who maintains it now and that's and that's from gentlemen that's all the time we have many thanks my guess you know moscow many thanks to our viewers for watching us here on t.v. this is the end of our broadcast segments stay with us for the extended version on you tube see you next time and remember cross talk rules.
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we felt like when you all know us coming to inspect our property if somebody would invent told me that i'm going to spend my life for two plain committees are a little disturbed person of the sultan was clearly seen. every night over we were attacked by the arabs oh or we will attacking them and we will extremely shocked and saying but that's not possible i'll make those move to such scenes and then the soldiers and myself from the work all sleep in that there is no one palace in the house without a prison or we've all dealt with over the day ali. really much second class citizens in the on call. it was like and i think in my head
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that there is no way to be able to live together without tearing down the street odds. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then.
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a terrorist attack in manhattan new york a suspect is injured after an explosion rocks a central bus station three other people hurt. president putin visits three middle eastern countries in one day his planes touched down in. syria as the withdrawal of troops from the country and then stopped off in cairo for talks with his objection counterpart. israeli prime minister is traveling around europe trying to rally support for recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital but foreign policy chief makes it clear that europe won't followed suit.

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