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gulf war talk receives like bahrain and of course saudi arabia it is national security that is often actually invoked take this prime ministerial response to a question about u.k. arms sales to saudi the security of the gulf is important to us and i would simply also remind the right on of the gentleman that actually saudi intelligence the counterterrorism links we have with saudi arabia the intelligence speak it from saudi arabia has saved potentially hundreds of lives yes minority government u.k. leader to resume now in defiance of the european parliament arms embargo resolution continues to allow the export of lethal weaponry to saudi and it apparently protects us here at home from terrorism even if it continues to threaten tens of millions in yemen the u.n. calls it the world's worst humanitarian crisis joining me now is the former vice chair of tourism is party the u.k.'s former sex your state for international development and you michel under thanks for joining us in the studio you're going underground i should just ask actually given the amount of abuse the stations
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getting at the moment why you as a conservative m.p. appear on r.t. at all well i should make it clear i never take any money off you for doing so like a man of my own free will and the reason i do so is because when the russians were destroying the city of aleppo one of the great cities of the world in syria you let me on you let me have my say and you brought cos what i said and i thought therefore you were standing up for free speech and for that reason i've never had any qualms about speaking out on r.t. and i'm sure the russians and those living in west aleppo would have a lot to say about what you said about east you and i have debated this in the past of course were a bit more of this great civilized city is now lying in ruins. yes but presumably i says days have less of a less of force and they did when you were grieving over obviously the mass casualties occurring in the celeb you probably best leave it there ok let's go to
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jerusalem obviously we're hearing now of drone strikes by the israelis killing palestinians alarming footage of children being rounded up do you think that washington's decision to regulate through islam is the capital of a jewish state is helpful as regards middle east peace but we've also seen reports of rockets being fired from gaza into border is ready towns like strawbs and so on so it cuts both ways but obviously anything that leads to greater violence is to be regretted and although to be first to president trump i think he is the fifth united states president to has said they would move the embassy to jerusalem i do not think it's helpful in bringing about a lasting peace in the middle east i don't think it assists towards the two state solution which still remains the declared objective of international policy so i regret very much that he made that decision last week even though of course some ballast syrian activists on the ground perhaps secretly welcoming it as it has united the palestinian resistance movement finally who've for
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a long time not believed the british government or the american government when it comes to a two state solution or on any assessment or judgment it is an unhelpful decision in securing a lost in peace in the middle east does british policy yemen make britain safer. well i think you have to disaggregate the two points you made earlier one is about the arms sales so we can deal with that and the other is about the humanitarian crisis that has developed in yemen the saudi led blockade of which britain as us is loosely a part although our prime minister has spoken out against the blockade but there is no doubt if some humanitarian supplies been which is what we have called for in the british parliament we have called for a lifting of the blockade totally both for humanitarian supplies and for commercial supplies because of course on the humanitarian side we're feeding about seven
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million people in a country of twenty seven million of whom many others are starving and you won't be able to save yemenis from starvation just by lifting the humanitarian blockade you've got to lift the commercial blockade you've got to allow food and medicines in through hard data port data port is where eighty percent of the supplies come through in normal times in a country where nearly ninety percent of all the food that is consumed is imported so the absolute critical importance of the data simply you can't get round that and we need the blockade both for commercial and for humanitarian who is giving aid while exporting lethal weaponry to kill. the very same people that we're trying to save i think you have to disaggregate the two points and let me explain what i mean by that saudi arabia is surrounded by enemies and is extremely rich they will always buy weaponry they always get the weaponry and the weaponry that britain sells them somebody else will fly make the point that therefore it seems to me
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that the selling of the weaponry is a second order issue if it is if it is legally sent from britain under an under an export licensing regime when that is the toughest in the world and it is not your that isn't clear as those hurdles then you know you can take a decision of whether it's right or wrong to supply weapons but that is a second order if you cause they will get those weapons anyway the first order issue is how you stop the attacks on yemeni civilians how you address the humanitarian situation for you into this second point you just said someone else will sell it to them i'm not sure the golden rule actually that was most a one in geo humanoids in yemen is already writing to the attorney general jerry wright saying you know this is in contravention of any kind of international law so that is that will not be an excuse no but if you alan obviously we cannot act outside the law there's been a judicial review of britain's weapons sales
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a judicial review found that they were perfectly lawful but my point is that i don't believe for a second that the situation in yemen will be improved to britain today dick has an arms embargo because the weapons will still arrive and they will still be used and arguably britain has some influence over the way the weapons that we supply are used in making sure that they are used in accordance with the rules of war my deep concern about yemen is not only the blockade it's also the attacks are taking place night after night which are killing yemeni citizens and we need an urgent lifting of the embargo both the humanitarian and the commercial and bug and we need to re. ignited a re invigorated peace process bringing all the parties to the table without preconditions because the saudis previously asked for preconditions to be set to learn and that won't work we need no preconditions and we also need urgently the updating of the resolution twenty two sixteen on the on
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a briton holds the pen at the united nations and my great concern in the aftermath of britain failing to win the seat on the international criminal court the i.c.j. at the u.n. is that if britain doesn't face up to its responsibilities to bring a new u.n. resolution to the united nations security council and relies on twenty to sixty then another country will do it and we hold the pen on yemen we have a deep historic relationship with the yemen i mean a difficult one but we know the area very well and britain should be leading the efforts to get a united nations brokered peace between the combatants and the yemen which is killing so many people this christmas albeit that would washington veto it anyway as it seems to be in making a deal with saudi arabia israel and other parties seeing iran as the biggest enemy in the region well i'm not one of those who thinks that iran is the. is the bad guy in all of this i think we need to bring iran into the comedy of nations i think
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that it's very important that we stand by the iran nuclear deal and i think we should be doing everything we can to bring them in and that's why i'm very pleased that boris johnson went to iran over the weekend to hopefully revive britain's relations with iran a move them to a different level i think it's very important for peace or at least you will resume with our brothers in washington what do you make of seeing the fact the president has a position of diverse because short it seems to be and all these years and all these millions hundreds of millions of pounds with the british money we did it all go the british tax. money has been absolutely vital in keeping alive and sustaining one of the world's other worst humanitarian crises millions of people who have been absolutely dependent after britain has provided more support for the refugee camps around syria in jordan particularly lebanon iraq
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and turkey britain has provided more support in the whole of the rest of the year i believe united together. money is better not to see vital that are to be prevented in ground zero give ability to be preventative i mean we have a report here we have a league member of the conflict stability security fund talking about two hundred million going to also all manner of different activities which don't seem anything to do with trying to create peace they seem to be supporting islamists in syria by about though they be returning home to do in britain that is a highly. highly doubtful statistic britain has been working i have a leaked memo here eighteen million in peace with thirty two million being given to moderate armed groups fifty four million to the white helmets which is now been linked to aces and al-qaeda linked groups were white helmets very nearly won a nobel peace prize and white house that i know that the russian rick is in china i know i know the russians think that the white helmet is the most front but actually
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the clear evidence that we had in britain was the white house that's were incredibly brave men and women in syria going to the rescue of people under attack from russian and regime bombs. i think i think what you're saying about the white helmets is extremely contentious and i'm satisfied from the work that joe cox and i and others have done on the all party friends of syria group that the work of the white helmets was enormously valuable in humanitarian terms and yet now we know it's not about geneva it's all about the stronger talks turkey russia iran. the syrian government it's over isn't it for british policy of the. well over this government of britain british british policy on syria british humanitarian policy provided brilliant support to desperate people but in terms of the policy of the british government and the american government on. syria it was always fatally flawed because the americans with our sport undermined the kofi annan plan that the
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united nations secured which would have addressed the issue of assad remaining at the negotiating table but not subsequently being a president the deal that kofi annan put on the table which was rejected by the americans and i'm sorry to say also by the british government today it will be a. deal that we would leap towards because it was such a good one but unfortunately was heavily undermined so in terms of the macro policy on syria partly because of the actions of the british parliament back in two thousand and thirteen partly because of the decisions of the obama government partly because of the decision by the obama government in america to say that there were red lines which couldn't be crossed which were then crossed and america did nothing to have anything warming to have an intimate they have a they haven't really they haven't really you know britain america haven't really been a a big force in the politics of syria over the last few years under mitchell thank you. after the break always be closing we tread the boards of finance capitalism
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and corporate sabotage to the style as a director of david mamet's award winning play bengali general i'm from the news the cults and corporates who love to fake a coles the breakfast at sac planes down over the poles over civil coming up about two of going underground. it's a. wonder when they get
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a call on this it is leading. in the mood to going to say. there's a row reserved in your chair and following me you know we meant enrique when i come up with this phenomenon up on the u.s.s. iwo jima looking on they want us and they've been intimacy and. welcome back within the next twenty four hours official u.k. homelessness i think it's all set to show a spike in people sleeping rough all across the country but while for some they're a testament to bank bailouts and austerity they'd likely be ignored by the protagonist of a play glengarry glen ross says in a us estate agency david mamet's award winning drama follows the wolves and sheep
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of one nine hundred eighty s. new york real estate tearing apart modern western capitalism and the american dream the fast paced sales batter and dialogue dark humor could arguably not be more relevant today in an era of fake news donald trump and brutal inequality we went down to the set of a west end revival of glengarry glen ross of the playoffs theater in central london to talk to the plays director sam gates and members of the cost stanley townsend and daniel ryan the play is running until the third of february twenty eighth. it's the relevance of glengarry glen ross says the twenty eight banking crisis destroyed that glamour of the fat you're right bankers. i think so i mean suddenly it wasn't a sexy profession anymore and there's a fair bit of hate thrown in that direction for these reasons they were always hated estate agents anyway but in the end the main salesman who's not here because i come to you do it is good and. all of the characters using language to mystify
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people rather than communicate absolutely gay or to to trick someone or to bomb someone else or. you know to wear them down or to sell an idea what have absolutely guys of must if using the word to get what they want and i know you said donald trump of course was in the real estate business the state agency business as it were extra perils here but language well for sure i mean that's why he cut his teeth in the sort of eighty's and if anything what he did twenty self. sworn in was to sell an idea and go for a very strong impression and yeah i think it's all there in his rhetoric he doesn't hardly knows what he's talking about most of the time but manages to keep their words coming out somehow subtly downs and your character shelley levine what happened to him he started with so much hope he's a bit like except good help later on because when bankrupt was really your
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character to show you were surely time moved on. circumstances he was the most successful estate agent the machine shelley the machine and he talks he talks a great game but times have changed what he was is now not what he's selling today and he's using the same methodology these guys have a great ability to talk the talk or die and they say south this confidence for this group should because he doesn't get the right tips that the christian slater character gets this year's model of the new salesman yeah if you're successful you get the newly. leads you get the prime premium leads to success breeds success but if you're not successful how do you become successful and meanwhile then you'll run your kind of us the general public being sold to or sold out yeah i love the way you've come to me on the not successful because. of
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the money to buy you guys yeah absolutely i mean you know if you meet ricky romero in a bar and yeah it's only now that i started trying to decipher some of what roemer is saying as a link trying to you know he is he's a bamboozles you know i mean it's it's a phenomenal scale to to get under somebody's skin and find out what it is that's going to tickle them you know what i mean that's and that's what these guys are absolute experts at and also finding who is the pray who is the mark who is the most gullible who's going to buy into it and i have to be this to everybody made of the loads of people here who have denge in misselling and so many other things yeah it's pretty obvious resonator what what was we what i mean you john on any t.v. morning shows that you know on t.v. are all about miso old product it's it's you know it's it's everywhere we were all
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buying into a dream we're buying into bitcoins with it we don't know where that's going to go but people of people are searching for you know what is the moment that the wife character comes to your rescue we never see you know exactly there's some wisdom in that you know the the only woman who we ever what we refer to you know living refers to his daughter you know but we don't learn anything about her but we hear about this the only woman character and it seems to be the sense behind the kind of you know even within the of this premise of greed you know even the mark is someone who's greedy for something and hopefully the wife is that is some kind of voice of reason this. is it as you say as your cargo but people audience is coming here can recognize the events here is if it's really seventy i think so i mean i think that the language that uses is as fresh is as fresh as a daisy really but the characters that we know we've met just because they're from
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america absolutely i mean quit talking crooks with a great sense of humor and they say outrageous things just raise anything here in london for a show and it's really the language of the city of london before everything went. everything had to be bailed out by the taxpayer well i mean it's you know it's guys fighting to be top of the office and i've been saying this is our situation where the top guy wins a cadillac the second guy gets a set of steak knives and the third and fourth guy fired so i think we can all remember times of competitive workplaces and people being you know pushed and pushed and pushed target monthly reviews etc etc also ruled by faith on some level executive don't trump was a buyer and seller of property no longer will the police to the white house only the time of this broadcast here and. here the police turn up yeah but that's not going to happen. so we don't know but seriously just explain why the police because
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there are stratagems are trying to get out of the misery there is yeah there was a robbery which is very simply where the police come in i think in many ways to get shelley has reports a great great successful and there is a parallel between what shelley in that act sells he sells real estate but he's really selling the american dream i think mama is pointing to her saying listen the american dream it's a pop you're all buying pop because to be successful you need to be successful and if you're not successful whose fault is it. it's your fault that success breeds success pronounce successful like you become successful then obviously the play was written quite a while ago now we have jeremy corbyn leader the labor buddy saying this kind of thing actually has a politician do you think this resonates with the with the times politically in that way because most politicians would still say no you should be striving and
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surely living your character is just a failure and as we should have read up a bit more only into there before we start buying probity. yeah i mean absolutely i mean a sucker's of me and everywhere there every where you know what but way and you know the thing is the there's a great feeling of regret to the thing that seems great one day the next morning doesn't look quite so rosy you know and i think we're living in a time where where you know politically constantly shifting all the time and you know someone makes one slight come and we're with it we're all you know we're on them that's why that's what happens in this play as well you know the federal pounces these guys that they're looking for the floors in people's personalities you know even with themselves in the office you know and i think we are living in
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an equally. full. there's a lot of pouncing going to. people frightened some of the audience members maybe the ones who were rattling the jewelry or a bit frightened of seeing their language being deconstructed in this way little. the american dream the british capital street yeah i mean maybe maybe. when your son the safety of an audience you can kind of just enjoy and you can look on in horror and not have to be assassinated on stage by someone else sort of thing so i think people more enjoy it really i mean it is a ton of laughter through the evening audiences really get on the plates at. so they had this surely shocking at i but i think we've been really surprised about how the but the laughter is so huge i mean certainly in the rehearsal room we knew what we thought was funny but the what's happening in the auditorium on a nightly basis is like wow it's that for me it's that they're all so obviously
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resonating even far more than we could imagine to cope with the pain from. that we do not cry. down your own sam yates sandy downs and thank you. well now to go to the week stories is broadcaster for liberal democrat member of parliament and bit opaque today president britain's most senior police officer updates london local government on the ground feel criminal investigation you've sure. there you can see why you should be here it's. a call here let's go to the murder of the irresistible i said there it is the times reports russian t.v. wanted to start class on the rest after grand fall it's you are said you've made the news just as i questioned of state back neglect corruption and guts to serve as lead to social cleansing and gravel what did you i think i mean it is that you did it i want zero zero not mean obviously the russians off
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a mentoring class revolt in this nation no doubt about it last one on the case apparently all around us the careful action ok you next again lots of things happening in jerusalem terrible atrocities of course we have to say both sides called too often but we've seen children being beaten up by i.d.f. soldiers grad rockets from the palestinian side chair we call being a big supporter of palestinian rights he's being bugged and there's an inquiry pitchford inquiry currently going on. what on earth is this story about bugging in the vault let's look at the headline first here option the guardian reports surveillance found spied on campaign groups the big companies leak shows this goes back to the fact that we all know that police went to extraordinary lengths to infiltrate campaign groups to the point where at least one of them had a child with one of the campaigners some margin going to those lengths it also now transpires that various large companies may have been doing the same thing in order to get information about things like demonstrations against them and potentially to
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help them suppress stories which are uncomfortable for those companies as illustrated article of the great blows to interact with rachel corrie. march sixteenth two thousand and three killed by an i.d.f. bulldozer and arguably didn't get the sort of coverage it should have got because of all of this and they were bugging her bereaved relatives that's when it gets serious because arguably this makes it very hard for campaigns to get justice in a corporate and surveillance obsessed world let alone what it means version orwellian state your next story i mean i'm sure that story won't get much play on state mandated media let alone an independent broadcaster in this country which has pooh poohed this big story yet you heard some of the previous harry the previous story got a little bit of coverage this cover actually none the canary says jeremy corbyn wins in a war for world peace and the silence from the mainstream media is deafening leave aside the fact he didn't get much coverage for his pretty well received speech at
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the united nations it turns out that he also won something called the let me get the name of it was right short ride to the peace prize the response to this is well we never really covered this but hold on a ninety and channel four when survivors as they sure have brad was a member of the old ira so well that you know so it doesn't count doesn't seem to be hurting his poll numbers perhaps one reason why it's not hurting his poll numbers is this story from the from the buckley brothers telegraph yes i love this one option the telling. i don't have to be very clever to do my job says secretary david davis later on he said he'd been misquoted but he says it's more important on the radio yeah but he but he's not so he said he says it's more important to come and he tried to reengineer what he said but maybe suggesting a jocular fashion he claimed that it was not important to be very clever or to know that much to go through that perhaps he's saying to force doesn't involve much intelligence because it might be the dumbest thing to do that's not how he put it
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you might call and say i've misquoted then the international trade industry spokesperson for the secretary of state liam fox said it's easy this whole brooks of thing is he's a man over thank you that's over the show will be back up that they believe in the european union renewal of a five year license for the use of controversial you kill a guy for say using monsanto products or w.h.o. said it was probably governor jennifer who till then he would talk to a social media will see what's out there three hundred twenty ideas to the day since the english bill of rights arguably thrown into confusion by cia whistleblower an expose of mr bale and edward snowden in twenty fifteen. plus in the mainstream media is an all time low but no one should be surprised in the media has itself to blame this sad state of affairs is a self-inflicted wound and actually a conscious business model the media no longer has
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a morning news media today propagates ideology. about your sudden passing i've only just learnt you worry yourself in taking your last bang turned. me onto it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last rites and helps to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. and we first met my life turned on each. but then my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was again still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral in the same as one enters my mind gets consumed with this reply to friends i speak to now because there are no other takers. claimed that mainstream
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media has met its make. this a fair. price. i'd
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. argue. readers of majority muslim nations condemn donald trump's move to recognize jerusalem as the culpable of israel on all the world to accept the eastern part of the city as polish times capital. violence and hunger continues over washington's decision on jerusalem we speak exclusively to. the driving force behind the protests the islamist group hamas. movement that we are calling for the armrest to be escalated in the west bank occupied jerusalem and the gaza strip against the israeli occupation also ahead the news our international c countries are complicit in the horrific abuse of migrants coming from libya in the program this hour we get reaction to those.


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