so i think we have to explain to our viewers this is a. partitioning syria permanently. shootout and an american at the same and at the behest i would say the saudis and the israelis here there is again we our viewers have to understand it's very clear the united states has no geopolitical national interest in syria and the american forces are there or are there illegally under international law there was no united nations security council authorization and. turkey is violating the sovereignty also. is making things was because they will provide economic aid only to the areas which are lost on the control of the syrian government that border. the presence of refugees in the countries like germany france so next time while merkel will be telling to you all when there was simply no way i couldn't accept that if
you geez i hope the german vote does. not financing the parts of the country that are on the control of the sea that all that turkey is invading and attacking the kurdish canton of african which african which has actually been russian protect it well that's ok with a lot of us and we have. to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on real news with art. in order to overthrow the regime it does take popular discontent and popular mobilization but all. also requires actors with in the leadership of the regime who
feel that the regime is no longer serving the national interest you need people in the military or the bureaucracy or both who are willing to see the regime change otherwise they would be able to put down a popular revolt that did not have support at higher levels. yes i was but with a large couple of it you put something. in the last election i. would say well mostly we don't and we will all soon but you know one of the of them stood up and we will push it out so. thank you for coming on the scene and do the. scots move you to coax police nancy a g e b u z showed reason to judge. you and was
a good bench. the prosecutor though i machine you can you get other cronies up on you the mob boss may be a good thing that's all but you're using my suspicion of us. welcome back to cross talk or all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok mark you want to finish up on the syria has a basically what we've got with this turkish attack on our friend is we've got a mexican standoff a three way mexican standoff between russia and the syrian government on one side
between turkey and its proxies which are al qaeda and the thirty one flavors of jihad its support of the whole war including the formerly u.s. backed free syrian army on the other and the u.s. and its kurdish proxies on the other and they're in a three way face off russia would like turkey of the united states to fight to drive a wedge between turkey and nato the united states would like the turks to fight russia over african canton because that would help destroy this very fragile essentially falling apart agreement for the stabilization of syria with the austin our agreement and it further destabilize syria and this is where we're at it's an extremely tense situation the writing was on the wall long time we've long argued it was going to happen and that the hours and days ahead what erdogan actually does and how much damage he does in syria and whether he will then turned on the american backed kurds is is is up in the air you know the interesting thing
is is that one has to wonder where turkish soldiers go do they stay or do they you know do they have you know it's like that the russians went in had a mission said mission accomplished very limited. did what they wanted to do and basically with true will the turks stay and again we're looking at as they do their part to say well the turks are more likely to be as like cyprus looks like my impression is the crush i kind of acquires to the fact that. there will be turkish influence in the north of syria russia agrees that there is a turkish minority there so they have their interest we cannot save syria a little right let's be realistic about it and i'm not sure russia really wants to grab a wedge between turkey and need to i think we would like to be in peace with everyone i know where they want to go i mean. maybe they want to but they don't really have to worry about it because it's already happening in a way it's another question i think another question to ask is who sanctions the
u.s. to be in syria for so long i mean go back to what mark said this goes against everything that we're at for. i don't know you just in time if you just tell us what you know this is a first a series that actually an interesting precedent for regime change this is the first time that the united states has sent in troops illegally to a country and then decided. it's a nuance and regime change so who wants and what happens to the u.s. forces there once turkey does go away and set up a permanent camp in the north where does the u.s. go where the troops go what are they doing there what's their purpose what's their goal what were salt that they look in to get all the hell you want it is why is that even when i say i always have. that report it's always about a random idea that it's point. they've lost they know that military presence there isn't going there and hit iran in any way shape or form and they're simply acting out of spite nature at this point they want to play they can't do anything
spoil against play the spoiler so that's what they're going to ok well i was just you know from the russian point of view we were going to the states with the e.u. so maybe our last you know transit country or probably for the oil and gas to be sold to europe so i think russia would try to maintain good relations with turkey despite all the news to him he has shot down a russian plane every russian soldier that has died in syria has died because the. erks r g harvests ok. but they couldn't do it without turkey's border. everyone's going to pay a high price for this i just want to touch real quickly gentlemen there was a new national defense strategy i think it's the first one since two thousand. and its focus is the greatest security threats for the united states is china and russia i mean an interesting chain change because it before it was trans.
transnational threats like terrorism even the environment and now we're going back to a very kind of simplistic manichean world where it's the russians the chinese it's like the nineteenth century again absolutely right i think it's much worse than the cold war and the funny thing is that trump accused russia and given off on isolating north korea economic and it while they're not just a squander a support russia in the same group. north korea and iran so we're going to do we have to we have to point out here is that russia was saying and then they asked the u.s. asked the russians to saying north korea i mean that's a really rich gentleman and the recent talks you know there is some discussion in the u.s. congress on each one is threat russia and north korea that the russian propaganda that sounded to me like a rag tag and we're going to discuss this threat north korea and russia ok you go in the direction i want to go to let's talk about what's going on in social media i
suppose all of us got that little note from twitter i did want you to get one i didn't get one while i was neglected. wow they probably gave up on me i didn't get that well i was. under snow but you know what it was you know what i would suggest to our viewers anyone that i think almost seven hundred thousand seven hundred thousand people i suggest to our viewers all of them just go to the internet. look up the u.s. constitution and copy the first amendment pasted and send it right back to twitter thank you very much i know what my first amendment my freedom of speech rights are i don't need a company like twitter to tell me what free speech is what i should read and what i shouldn't read twitter and facebook are no working in unison and i think we know the forces behind twitter and facebook that are pushing them to do this and so twitter is basically saying look we know that there is we know from all the evidence that there are russian trolls and russian influence what it's telling to
surely professionally so they're so their best it was a warning to people that was it was very creepy very big brother actually very creepy you know it's like we know that you're following certain russian troops you were watching you be careful you may have liked something that a russian or potentially russian line person face may help you know their heads facebook on the other hand is going to do this they're going to write that they're going to rate reputable quote reputable news sources and they're going to make sure that our readers get to these reputable news sources while the other reputable news sources the ones they don't want you to read just kind of howard fade away just want to disappear they tell us how this is this process is going to be done i mean is there any transparency here or is it just algorithms. this is hoping to. kind of knock that and then turn the investigation into the russian influence on the u.k. to defend them and found out that russia spent oh jesus zero point seven cents on
that adverse targeting of the u.k. to frown don't so russian middle twenty just one euro and that was terrible meddling barack obama went to london spoken for a bit of a stable word and it was not meant he was just there well obviously all western media and i look at europe and i look at the united states and canada all of them supported hillary clinton but that wasn't meddling that wasn't meddling foreign meddling that he should be. came out and said she supported hillary clinton and burke said it multiple times twitter ok fair enough to send out a letter to everyone you may have liked something that a russian posted on the internet that's fair enough jack. what i want to know jack is will i get an e-mail that will tell me that i may have potentially liked something that an american propaganda agent of influence posted maybe an israeli the e.u.
saudi i really do know sort of maybe george soros pierre omidyar the other technical jeff bezos jeff bezos influence did he get anything on my twitter feed that may have influenced me i want to know this you know already just the us government we are concerned about this because we are in media here what is the impact is it just impacting people like us that are very rigid in constitutionalism incomes of freedom of speech or because my concern i mentioned this a number times in this program is that they're damaging their own business model and i'm right am i wrong or does it really matter you know i think there's a debate there how much damage going to do to their business because if you take twitter not even so much twitter i would say facebook and google we haven't mentioned google is doing a lot of the same practices that facebook is doing they're actually much more advanced than facebook is to be honest they and they own instagram they own what sap your facebook and google lots of a right of properties and they control eighty percent of the advertising facebook
and google alone. globally now what they what they do to a website an alternative website a website that's just getting started or is not as big as say the new york times or the washington post facebook and google have the means to either make your site grow very large very large or they have the means to completely shut you down and no one's going to be able to find you if you can't find the website via google or facebook you're writing in the dark you're lost you're lost so this is a very serious issue of course you can say they're private companies and they have the right to do whatever they want and have become you to look exactly i was going i was going but they've got gotten to the point where they become utilities and if they continue this they need to undergo some sort of regulation because alex you know we had standard. and there was a whole populist progressive movement to break up this very damaging monopoly i don't mark two maybe i'm missing it where is the talk about breaking up the non-police eighteen t.
that that was a concerted effort this google and he spoke to some of the most powerful entities that if they ever existed before company on the planet why would they want to pick them up when they're right now operating as u.s. government schools i mean the idea that you would break them up why they're fully cooperating hand in hand with the us deep state there's no reason for them to do. and i think this brings us. to the very good point of what the end goal here the end goal here isn't even not letting you hear what our t.v. or chinese media has to say that the goal is to suppress internal internal dissent it is to strangle the ultimatum both well to right all right far left either way the progressives or anything outside the mainstream anything you know but what like the new york times and the washington post which is by the way also owned by jeff bezos the washington post what they want you to know right i mean the very slogan question more offends them because it really means question them and
question they're there and the second is well it's like i can call it the american officials when they used to you would be he was also they sat there so we indulged same bad thing so these amazing country but wasn't so indulged a european thing seems that the times are so critical it's called the enlightenment that's went down that's what the whole of it was about gentlemen we're going to jump in here i want to thank my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here this is the end of our broadcast segments stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember cross talk rules. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or
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turkey expands its ground operation against kurdish militia forces in northern syria pentagon says it was warned of the move by ankara which had this message of. america do not encroach on our borders not provoke. patients. must be careful what you say a report based on documents leaked by edward snowden claims the u.s. national security agency is using voice recognition software to spy on people. and germany's political deadlock could be broken after the social democrats agreed to start formal coalition talks with party effectively making the anti migrant party the main opposition in parliament.
you're watching out international live from our moscow studio with me in india today welcome to the program turkey's a military operation against kurdish militia forces in northern syria is now in its third day and co is seeking to drive the groups which it views as terrorists out of the area that comes after washington once it would establish a new border force in the region which will include kurdish y p g fighters. let's look at how power is distributed in the border region the areas on yellow on
the map that you can see here are held by kurdish various militia groups and on the left is the african region the latest flashpoint in syria where turkey is carrying out its military operation it's receiving backing from syrian rebel groups in the area shown in green here turkish tanks have already reportedly penetrated as far as the exiles district in the east of offering turkey then intend to turn its attention to the kurdish controlled city of land bridge that you can see over here on the right the syrian kurds have already asked the u.s. led coalition for support. america has acknowledged the difficulties posed by two of its allies in the syrian civil war being in conflict with each other but the u.s. defense secretary said turkey had told washington about the operation if the trying coke takes a look now at the hostilities. unbelievable is this real a nato member telling daddy you know i mean i mean come on behave yourself oral
point a gun at you am i exaggerating a bit mr aired on didn't say these exact words but turkey's got a prime minister who pretty much did anyone who gives logistical support to the white is turkey's target for the record the white b.g. equals the kurdish army and for all these years who's been giving the kurds all kinds of support right. over the weekend the kurds were extended in all of branch that's what ankara calls its military op the kurds say they repelled an attack on sunday but where does that wipe e.g. get its guns. tapered on couldn't care less why washington's been helping the kurds to destroy eisel for this man the kurdish militias are no better than terrorists that explains his latest messages to america because u.s. is in the process of creating a terror army on our border what we have to do is nip this terror army in the bud
america do not encroach on our borders do not provoke us or we will run out of patience does anyone from the u.s. government have anything to say we urge turkey to exercise restraint and ensure that its military operations remain limited in scope and duration and scrupulous to avoid civilian casualties some very restrained counsel there to be restrained think about it mr aired on rants that america u.s. officials don't hit back turkey rolls up the tanks flies out the war play sends soldiers over the border washington basically keeps after all this isn't about kim who's sly this week makes donald trump for one war so perhaps the turks and the kurds have succeeded in one thing together we're. using america to baffled silence shortly after u.s. military officials announced their intention of creating
a thirty thousand strong border force washington backtracked the u.s. secretary of state says the u.s. had no such plan and that the situation had been misapplied trade however russia's foreign minister has disputed that claim. the contradictions followed the recent u.s. announcement of creating an armed force along the syrian turkish border though in fact america continues its actions to stop this control of a parts of serious territory. border in the meantime the u.s. scares the kurds away from the dialogue with damascus washington is encouraging separate a sense meant among the kurds there's been plenty of reaction coming from europe too on the conflict in northern syria germany's foreign minister has said any military confrontation carries potentially and forseeable risks while france has called for an emergency un security council session it will be held later on monday . we heard from a former turkish foreign minister about the situation he believes that despite all
the warnings from turkey the u.s. has been a major catalyst in the conflict. if you notice this was not going to our church church wouldn't they were ok look don't worry to. try to draw the attention. that you can you should not follow the trail don't provide allusion to the terrorist group which is linked to the. do injuries. kills organization but. using several excuses continue to lie and this is were really no small rallies against the military operation have been held in europe in turkey demonstrators were met by a heavy police presence with reports authorities use force to disperse the crowds at least twelve people have been detained but keeping
a watch on the situation along the turkish syrian border so stay with us. america's national security agency has the power to identify people by the sound of their voice they are thought to be using technology much more advanced than a lot of apple or allison that's according to a report based on documents leaked by the agency's former contractor edward snowden tracking vica picks up the story. probably based on my voice there isn't much you can gather about my identity sure you can tell i'm true now. that i'm american and that. the n.s.a. however could do a lot more easily using my voice to identify who i am what language i'm speaking my gender and my dialect according to classified documents from the snowden archive the n.s.a. has been developing technology to identify a speaker using just their voice for years when sigyn to transcribers work the same
targets for a long time they sometimes can identify a certain individual in recorded conversations just by the sound of his voice and by his unique way of speaking this process was traditionally known as voice identification now rapidly improving technology is available that can do the same job mathematically the technology works by analyzing your voice as unique features to create an individual voice print and once the n.s.a. has that a single speaker can be almost instantaneously pinpointed even among massive databases now in two thousand and sixteen alone the n.s.a. corded more than one hundred fifty one million records of americans phone calls and that was after their bulk collection abilities were limited by congress so there's no telling how many boyfriends they could have at their disposal and theoretically a person could be instantly located and tracked down as long as a microphone is somewhere nearby and as edward snowden pointed out there's almost no escaping mix these days i don't think anybody would argue that the police.
chase terrorists paedophiles who we don't talk about so it's just told it's heat surveillance what we're talking about is everybody everything piece of data by everybody being collected and scanned by software thinking that looks deviant and he could stop talking to people who are involved in very legitimate things like demonstrations stroy eggs even you know people who vote for the wrong way this was the american government is concerned another fear is that speaker. recognition could end up discouraging people from speaking out it has the potential to unmask anonymous sources or tracking journalists or whistleblowers and according to the intercept this technology isn't only in american hands either it looks like interpol the european union and china have their own version as well among others so you can run but you definitely cannot hide. from collecting information and to losing it the u.s. federal court has revealed the n.s.a. deleted crucial data connected to illegal wiretapping carried out by the george w.
bush administration the agency responded saying the data was from the move to simply free up space on its hard drives the presidential surveillance program that's. most criteria broadly used to delete dates of a certain type in response to mission requirements to free up space and improve performance of the backup system the data in question was controversial collected after the nine eleven terror attacks in the u.s. in two thousand and seven it was initially ordered by the court to be preserved for further examination but has now been raised along with the backup tapes the information was deemed important to a number of pending lawsuits a former n.s.a. director and whistleblower we spoke to says this sort of data tends to disappear far too often it's a way of covering your backside so that. they just get to be exposed and so it's just more evidence.