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that's has been on the song the first issue that has been put in society was the need to come back to come back to the. and to put to the. bank in the public space of the debate the second india was a positive. to the technological change and the symbol of this. has been. to the technological. exactly what and where i want to take this conversation forward because many critics of the e.u. have absolutely no issue with europe's past they recognize the enormous success of the european union. conciliation and peace are its greatest achievements most of the people agree with that they take issue with the ability of the e.u. as a system as a mechanism to move forward to be as efficient as it has to be in present times can you really do the reunion without changing the way the decisions on made yes be
done. and the exactly what happens. in these middle age with the amount of innovation. to element of innovation because the good the good in them and creation of. plastic knology should have been closed only that in a close region the region of. the society that i've heard of this time was a medicine and the second. for the new world order mystery or you know that it happened many times in history that something that once was a blessing suddenly becomes a curse everybody agrees that it's certain point of time the consensus model that the e.u. has served it well but now it takes china less time to set up a whole industry for the european union to come up with a coherent policy don't you think that the. mechanism of making decisions by
consensus in this day and age when everything changes by the minute is a bit outdated to say the least. seeing that is a bit. but it. takes you years just to come up with a policy. that democracy is a very critical system. to find. killing millions of people that has been the lesson that you. because there's been a very difficult. and also be. making decisions they don't have to be a drag. you know that people deserve. better from the mental freedom to decide but. to decide to do. what has been promised by the. simple not possible and they know just the very
beginning so they see. the real crucial democratic debate and they achieve nothing because they were. even to. the european union especially when it comes to technology and regulation of innovation i are saying that the europeans have essentially a choice between either having a democracy or have in the. technological society. i think that this is a very good question and this is the main challenge of today because the main. two days. and is challenging to see. is the. reduction in the medium term of the workforce and the second is what is called the human income. they will lucian so there could be a summer following that perhaps tomorrow some will be delegated if. we became
the executor and then just much more in the west that we have to find a new president specified three priorities sustainable development peace and culture and all of them strike me as something that europe does better than others it's good at sustainable development better than many other parts of the world it's good that culture is. peace if you want to if there. is a moving forward why do you focus on things that you. focus on something that struggles. i think that the idea to look to the. is first of all i don't see that today europe is the one that is delivering better because for example china has not been a climate in beijing just a mission but today he understood it is the future and they are investing a lot in this so europe has been the inventor of this concept of being the main event. that has been approved by the. banning goes to the plastic single use the
can create. they created enormous business in producing these other country have understood that these called cities working. the. thinking but there's agenda of change that will be for fun is for enterprise for me . how's that going to drive one of the reasons why china is such a leader in all those areas that you mention is because it has streamlined decision making europe again cannot compete. i keep going to the same question can you deliver that women without changing the way the decisions are made in the european union and the way they're implemented i think that.
we can. foster. some. mechanism and when we've seen that we can bypass in europe. to judge others because also someone a stall to the center moment it was the night of the. market in china with the change the system of china and finally we discover the market economy that is winning the world is another called very efficient as well in raising standards for its people lifting millions out of poverty. in europe we never work and also in some part of the of the west europe when there were because of. the prize the individual to look to the collectivity in their work in chinese working from one thousand is a concept that seems the foundation of china but. is there any middle ground i mean we are talking not about major infringements on human rights or putting people into
concentration. camps we're simply talking about streamlining policy on technical issues. with china which is not going to sit around and. look for example to the agreement the world today you're. of trade agreement or why the united states. members they negotiated. to delegate it to one central negotiator today you are. in front of. the want to negotiate. this one example the second example europe has been through does make a. unique case in the story. and to the. security to is used by many and even the chinese. just.
example of enormous success. because just the few days ago your own country signed a memorandum of understanding with china to become an official. initiative at the time. even agreed formally on the new policy. looks like your own country doesn't have much patience. someone can criticize this. is very difficult. that being counseled between a european. national. playing is no different from the case of. a big.
to china is a by law to make. because there is definitely concern within the e.u. circles that. striking out on its own here because it's. it's not the first country to sign that agreement but it's the largest one of the most important within the e.u. community. i seeing that this is a challenge. i seem to these not all of the i think government that is open to this issue can remember the open of these. laws. and was a. road not all the. european going to china models so there was these delegations if i didn't it was china camming to europe and to visit and we have also to remember there was
a lot of debate the need at the time of the i mean that can be accused to be an anti utopian as you would know for sure but for the role that the u.s. played to continue to play when there was a new plot desist to open an agreement before opening the port of does to cheney's i seem to test to be managed and understood you know european framework and sound. have to be criticised. for my government has done because i'm not so being put into the bed with the parliament that is not open to document such a debate and a public debate but in any case in the agreement the too deep to deal framework with all of the relation with china is very open these betty is very clear so is an ongoing debate i think that we have to find a way to cooperate with china well let me stop you right here we have to take a break now but back in just a few moments. for
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of new. clothes some money into bulimia as a result of style if you believe that easy. welcome back to worlds apart with the president of the european economic and social committee mr i heard you say that those who oppose the european project often do that without offering anything concrete and yet if we look at the euro skeptics in your own country italy they seem to be very resolute about what they want and what they don't want they put. the supremacy on the national legislation
they want to strengthen the tally in culture the italian national identity they don't want more immigration or more isn't that concrete enough i would look to do is. to leave without being part of the european union and that process through the measure prizes can only give the notion of one of the last thirty years or one the world when there was a big financial speculation looked like in ninety two against their leader and they gave the pounds and did the list of why exactly thanks to you if there was you or this time that we doubt belonging to a perspective to go you know that i should know more unification and more but in the glacial demonoid thirty italy will be understand that that's also a matter of debate because there are some who would tell you the. italian gains of membership have been much smaller than among other member states because if i'm not mistaken the average g.d.p. growth in italy since two thousand and one was only
a quarter of one percent compared to the one point seven e.u. average can you really blame the italians for trying to you know look at the alternatives for example cooperating with china. i think that when you speak about the. from the mental distinction to. the mental argument for part of the relation but i'm talking about the current government who has the support and the monday from the population i mean that's what. you were to feel and the demand of people. as well. as of course diligence you must seat because they were voted in the other were the opposition. as many european because that is that is a big transition as i was telling there is a problem of the media classify lost. so that he is. blaming it on globalization
isn't that also part of the problem isn't the e.u. the wage structure the way it's guided their way defines its priorities isn't that also part of the conversation. or the far right parties across europe. to take. people off neoliberal economic perspective have been in power for quite some time everyone has to take responsibility in this very challenging time and of course there is a demand in our society due to the be good the normal that we are leaving and the fact that the past. economic and financial crisis yes we have something. going much more coming back on the show at least six in the wood but we came out the we dial to measure these two options in any case one issue when i am saying that the many of them only say no and they yes. the magic
example and the message they can buy hold the. example. they say no for three they do not succeed. and you see that from one e r. or the. police and the. right wing parties are still despite. in power in italy in hungary in austria in poland there. in france it is expected that there are going to consolidate their presence in the parliament. elections. what is it in the policies of the. driving the support. i am asking you to be critical. because you are ultimately in charge of.
analyzing those trends and you have to take a. not only people also people you associate yourself with. the. keep keeping back. of the media or. simply. from. the speeches they see that the finally. is not working is not even supported. by the voters and this is mainly important describing that they have. to make. the. most of the raising so much.
as not being too. because it. has been in the deepest prizes for you because most of the class is the. europe's own decision joint forces of the united states. been a decision taken by. the consequences. of membership is that fair when you are not partaking. partaking in the decision but you all have to suffer the consequences is it fair.
that's not a question of. opening such as this year. and the clear strategy to build up. any mandate from the international law. and international law. to control and to prevent this. is not been the case in the last twenty five with many of the. great many to be very resigned to international conflicts. saying that we need. to invest a very clearly. as a key to prevent the peace and also to negotiate a measure. of. national.
making its reason since our time is running out i still want to ask a question about value because the european union has long position. based on to about a decade ago many central asian countries for example kazakhstan uzbekistan even russia to some extent wanted to deepen their cooperation economic cooperation of the european union but they were told that you know we care a lot about values you have to build your democracies first then the economic cooperation will depend they all turn to china helping china rise helping themselves certainly do you think it was a smart decision putting value of economic opportunities because china clearly have seized on those economic opportunities something some would say at the expense of the european union. one cannot believe
that is exactly what. you were was accused. conditionality to the aid that because you cannot. say there is no countries being cut off the investment of. the first european union members they. are saying that has not been a mistake because they need more money with conditionality they look china as an opportunity but today. they are. not. but they want to be. sure you are up in the your puter will be fair enough to understand that these new challenge to build up a new will. i seen that some mistake it to be very honest has been done in a certain point not only for the economic issue and values but for the national geo
politics that has come back a very strong international space between europe and russia not only with the euro . europe and. europe and the united states. in this case is much more the responsibility of united states i think if i can say they did . she would decide. that europe is becoming the worst enemy if united states. ask you one more question about values because it's very interesting to me you've been very supportive of president call build a new european. say that you have to kind of. own house in order before embarking on such a grand plans when it comes to values what do you make. that wasn't in. keeping with the value.
of the middle class from my point of view big mistake of managing a major decision about taxation on them specifically asking about. you when you have people that. destroying everything on the other hand also have the use of explosive grenades and. mains and kills people we are not seeing that even in authoritarian societies. not seen in the. at least ten fatalities several thousand. and people losing eyes people losing their limbs. you know. to defend that it's fake news i mean. you know. those protesters have been have
a hand that they can defend. such a violent explosion. that they are very proud of the police is managing this to me as not been the case. twenty years ago where the south thing is up and i want to just exactly do to praise the italian police force i'm asking about the french police force because it's a very important question when you're debating values whenever something some street action happens in other countries authoritarian countries in the european book there is always a very harsh criticism on any use of the police but here we are not hearing that. we have different sorts of information. not. because. of course there are also people who enjoy them. but they're not so you're not a little concerned about how.
that is. as we had in the past for example you need or at the european level. to put in just a. decision that we had over the rules and not the least but i think. that we have also to say that. that it should be overweight aided to prevent. the french and security forces to work a little more difficult. some lesson from the. value. there it's been a pleasure talking to you thank you very curious i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time you're going to worlds apart.
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