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the mission district and i find it -- i think is really in context with that neighborhood. i know the hpc even, mr. martinez, i know you were fine with it. maybe it is the renderings we were looking at, but i am not able to sit here and feel like i can get to the place where i'm comfortable with this design and neighborhood. although i am really supportive of the fact that the developer was willing, and it is a beautiful building to me, but just not here. it is not a criticism of the -- you know, we are subjected in our opinions, obviously. as civilian commissioners, with the exceptions of commissioner moore and commissioner sugaya, we do not have professional experience dealing with this architecture.
on a purely subjective basis, i am not feeling comfortable with the design completely in this neighborhood. i do want to thank the developer and the architect for working with staff and the developer working with the neighborhood. and through supervisor kim and the school district. and being amenable to their concerns of moving the entryway to south van ness. i want to thank you for that. commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i am going to have at the same caveat as commissioner fong. i am going to vote in favor of this because i think it is important that this get done. if we went back for more and more continuances, there might be problems. however, i would like in the future to begin design at the barre beginning. as i said earlier, when profits first come forward, if we could have a look at it, make some comments, and try to find
something that fits the testily we are going to have a project on 300 grant that came out beautifully. while it was not ready to come out at that time anyway, it would be nice to begin this process at the beginning so that by the time it comes before us, everyone is comfortable with the design. i think that, with some of the changes we have suggested, it will help to soften the building a little bit. >> on the motion to approve as proposed, with the following modifications -- moving the parking entrance to saw van ness and continue to work on the details of the building, and specifically the top of the building. commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye.
commissioner fong: no. commissioner fong: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner moore: aye. president olague: no. >> that passes 5-2. if i understand correctly, we will be calling item 17 out of order. president olague: yes, because i am concerned that if we do not, he will not make his -- let's take a five minute break. i'm going to figure out the project sponsors year. we have a project sponsor for 17th? and then the request for is from the other party. five minutes is all we need. ok, he is coming. great. we are good to go.
>> commissioners will be taking item 17 out of order, for case number 2010.0394d, broderick street and a request for discretionary review. >> the product before you is located at 2853-2857 broderick street. a discretionary review has been fought on the building application. 3 feet. the existing building has a three story basement, two-unit building. the proposal to raise the building 3 feet would allow the private sponsors to insert a garage. the concerns are that the project would force easement. staff feels that this is not an exception or an extraordinary circumstance and recommends the
commission to not take discretionary review and to approve the project as proposed. i would be happy to answer any questions. president olague: thank you. dr requester? >> thank you for taking this out of order. i am going release lokke as i got -- going really slow because i got food poisoning to dead. this is not a good day right now. my clients brought me here about 10 days ago and i disagree with some other issues in terms of what is in the jurisdiction of this board. although they are still going to talk about it. the project sponsor is attempting to install a garage, if we could take a quick look on the overhead. he had designed this -- they originally came up with a four- foot racing of the building. the environmental analysis people said if you raise it 4 feet, what is going to happen
is, you these buildings pretty identical. they are going up sloping broderick street. you cannot have one building above the adjoining these if your in a row of four homes built by the same person in 1910. the macs it out at 3 feet, which i believe is still over the eve of the adjoining buildings. at 3 feet, they are required to put a 25% driveway matching the existing sidewalk. i do not think it was considered -- the street requires the curb to be raised and have an upward sloping sidewalk which is going to increase the height of the building. if you try to drive down this driveway right now, a classic car will bottom out.
they are going to have to make changes to the driveway. i believe one of the original tests was, in a was an existing eight-foot planter boxes. we can extend the curb cut beyond the three-foot that the bureau allows. i have contacted your street use and they said that 3 feet 9 inches. the challenge is to get a car to fit are going to increase the height of the building by 3 foot 9 inches. that is their best case. probably the original 40 they asked for is a good number to actually drive down. i do not think the current project -- i do not think a car will fit. if that is not your jurisdiction, i understand. i am asking that if you're going to let them have 3 feet that you recognize that the building department also had a 6 inch construction tolerance for. we should be having construction
tolerance applied to building heights. if they want to raise it 3 feet, they do not get another 6 inches. then you will establish a precedent that building heights are a 6 inch tolerance. the other suggestion is if you want to let them try, you have got to take jurisdiction and say, raise it 3 feet and raise it from an absolute point, not the curb. that would be a suggestion and i will let it step back. we are talking to and our mental analysis about a ceqa appeal. i got involved so late that i find it offensive when people do see what appeals the day before the hearing. i do not like it. we will do that later. i think there are some ceqa issues. even at 3 feet, i have measured it. this building will be above the adjoining. you are wrong to have this funky lot on four row homes.
actually, this is what they have to do. they are going to have to put in a circle transition and create and s-shaped curve. i have done is enough. this is the only way that is going to work. president olague: speakers in support of the dr requester? everyone gets three minutes at this point. >> i am the owner of 2845-47 broderick street. our concern has been not only with the non-feasibility of the garage, as he just described, but also raising the building up to four feet. they would have to come forward with the adjoining stairs in front of our housing so that the
only way they could get into the backyard is to trespass on our property. which means there is no way for the fire department or other services to service their back yard except through their existing garage. if they clapton out or change any of the elevations in the garage, it will not be able to meet the height requirements. it seems to me that it is not only a question of trespassing on our property, but is also access and safety access to their backyard. the question now is, we have asked them, can you take the stairs into your portico? by doing that you would leave a way of entering the step away. they said no, it was too expensive. i ask them what it was. they said it would be $3,000. i said, do you think it is a inconsequential figure in terms of what you're doing to your building? they said, if we have to, we can do that and return the stairs
back to the backyard in without disturbing any other site. any other areas between us. i said, why don't you do that? they refused to discuss it. at this point, where we are is, they're going to raise their building in it is going to essentially kill our privacy. it is going to be almost an identical area. take away all the views of the back. they want to have a change in the back part of their building and, at the same time, they want to kill off any of the walking areas between our buildings and have a permanent easement on their property to get to their backyard. that does not make sense. it seems to me that there is a much better way of doing this. i do not know at all about the height of the building in terms of the feasibility of their cause, but creating garages on hills is not easy. you have to slope the sidewalk
and yet your garage is flat. you need a custom car to get in. what car is going to be able to fit in? that is what i have to say. president olague: is there additional public comment on this item? for those in favor of the dr request for -- requester? seeing none, project sponsor. >> good afternoon. i am the architect for the project sponsor. being here tonight is not an issue. i am sorry the we are hearing this case. an example is the pending dr reform had been finalized, you would not be hearing this case for it does not have
extraordinary circumstances attached to it. i do not know how to respond to the issue of the garage. it will be steep. we did request a four-foot race of the building. because of the ceqa impact on the historical resources preservation, if the commission wishes to grant four feet, we are open to that. it would be a typical, inserted, steeper drops. the plans are just that. it amounts to the house being raised, as the house was up the streets, but much less so. that was raised four-6 feet. the situation with the houses are that there is a tiny, two- foot wide side for the dr
requester's house, and all the people on the south side. the weight pattern goes, there is a separation where the entry to the house is. there will be no impact by the raising of the house and serving for the 6 inch steps to the door. we entertain the recessing this stairway, but it impacts historic architecture and would intrude on the portico and the porch. it would create a railing that would not allow furniture to be brought in. it would not be a smart architectural thing to do. so we request that you do not take the dr and approve the project as it is. thank you. president olague: thank you. supporters of the project sponsor?
>> i am the owner of the property. i am so upset about how the whole renewal of this property, because we had a fire. my husband died less than two years ago. i want to keep on living there. we have lived there for 55 years. but now i do not have a companion anymore. it is important for me that i get a garage. because my husband and i, we would go out together and at night, come back.
we did not care if we had to park outside, two blocks away. now, it is important for me -- i hope that we are not doing anything fancy. as a matter of fact, this neighbor who is trying to make you stop is using the whole entranceway as an easement. the easement we have is that he has grown his flowers. but i just cannot understand -- there is no one else in the neighborhood thinking of -- that
it is going to disturb them. they are asking when are you going to finish the house. everything has been put on hold. thank you for listening. president olague: are there any additional speakers in support of the project sponsor? seeing none, dr requester, you have two minutes. >> i will be very brief. if they want to build their house, i think they have a right to build their house. i think some of the things that the dr requests, are not in this commission. what is is a 6-ins construction. if you want 3 feet, it is 3 feet. not 3.6 or 3.9, and they go ahead and build. thank you. president olague: in rogers
sponsor, you have two minutes. do you want to take them? you do not want to take your two minutes? ok. so the public hearing is closed. commissioner sugaya. commissioner sugaya: given the situation with the relationship of this house to the others, i would like to take dr approve the project, and say that it cannot be raised any higher than 3 feet. as measured from whatever the stable point is, or whatever you want to call it. not one that shifts around if dbi or anyone else says that they have to work the sidewalk or do something else. and the measurement start from there. that does not work for me. i do not care about 6 inches either.
>> and yes, i understand. commissioner sugaya: unless we cannot have that kind of jurisdiction. >> that is what i would like to comment on. i think that falls within the department of building inspection. the six-ins tolerance to the three-foot racing would go either way and possibly be 2 feet 6 inches and be ok or be 3 feet 6 inches and be ok. i believe that jurisdiction would fall within the department of noting inspection. commissioner sugaya: tell them we are pre-empting their jurisdiction. [laughter] then there is no reason to take dr, other than to make it official that it is our position. that should be transmitted to the building department, but it is the desire of the commission that it remained at 3 feet. >> that is certainly to be placed into your action notes. commissioner sugaya: i will make
that motion. >> second. commissioner antonini: i agree with what is being proposed. the other issues, the etr, -- the dr requester is not in purview of the commission. what they are saying is that because they are expanding its someone needed to get back there, they might have to cut through the neighbor's yard. that would be more of an emergency situation. my understanding is there is accessed from the back of this house to the backyard. >> there is still accessed through the garage and through internal connections. commissioner antonini: it is just the extern the connections they are removing. that does not really mean anything. there are instances were up only people can go to the backyards -- probably the majority of houses in san francisco are
attached homes, meaning you do not go outside. you have got to go through the house. it does not change anything. commissioner moore: have you talked about where you each expect to measure the height of the building so that you are on the same point of measuring it? would you please answer that for us? >> yes, we have. it is within the jurisdiction of the planning code. the hike is being measured per how the hike is defined for the planning code. center of the property line. at the top of the curb on the building edge. commissioner moore: correct. that should be very clear. collapse unless the curve is going to be going up or down, right? commissioner moore: existing kerr is a demise in line. i do not have any problem with what is in front of us. commissioner antonini: for my
own identification, i did not look at the zoning. they are attached, correct? >> that is correct. it is a two-family -- commissioner antonini: not necessarily detached. >> correct. commissioner antonini: i know that districts that are rh1 detached, you have to allow a three-foot space in between your house and the property line on either side. but that does not apply here. thank you. >> on the motion to take dr and two approved the proposal to raise the height of the building no more than 3 feet. commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. supervisor farrell: aye.
commissioner sugaya: aye. vice president miguel: aye. president olague: aye. >> that motion passes unanimously and brings us back to item 16a and b. 300 grand avenue also known as 272 and 290 sutter st.. request for the amendments for approval for the previously amended compliance under the 309 and 309 j. >> good evening. this is a request to the amendment of previously approved in section 309 termination of compliance in order to extend the performance. for three years. the project also requires extension of a variance from planning code sections 136d1 and
140, under the purview of the administrator. has approved by the planning commission on june 12, 2008, it would demolish to existing buildings to construct a new 10 story building to contain approximately 45 dwelling units, 16,000 square feet of ground and retail space, and up to 40 parking spaces. with the exception of building height and building ball. the zoning administrator are proved a variant for dwelling units exposure and projections of streets and alleys at the same june 2008 hearing. no modifications are proposed to the design or intensity of the project as originally approved. since project packets were submitted, thousands received one letter in support of the project from the union square of business improvement district. copies are provided for your review.
in the staff recommends that the planning commission approved the amendment to the conditions of approval to the original section 3 of 9 compliance to extend the performance. to three years, to october 6, 2014, with conditions outlined in the draft motion. this concludes my presentation unless there are any questions. thank you. president olague: project sponsor. >> good afternoon. i am steve atkinson. as discussed in the case reported materials, as you have approved before, this would be a 10-story building, eight stories of residential above two stories of retail. it would provide several benefits to the city including improved and retail space, 45 residential units, 60% of which would be two-bedroom.
a contribution to the housing field and building design which would be compatible with the conservation district. finally, the project would contribute to the beautification of harlan alley. many products you have approved over the past years have been unable to proceed because of the recession. we are requesting a three-year extension. no other changes are being saw. we would like to think the planning department to and work with us to bring this extension to that. we would also like to thank the housing action coalition and the union square improvement district for their continued support. in preparation for this hearing, we reached out to project neighbors, including the parties to oppose the project before. we are not aware of any opposition to the extension. we are going to try to keep our presentations brief. i will be followed by cedric
young, the project manager who will talk about the plans for the project and he will introduce alan martina's to review the project. then we will be happy to answer any questions you might have. cedric young. >> thank you, president olague and commissioners for consideration of our request. i am the vice-president for 290 sutter. it is affiliated with madison marquette, a national real- estate development company that manages properties in the bay area. this is across the street from the white house building which houses an interpublic flagship store and is adjacent to the traian hotel -- triton hotel.
shortly after our approval in 2008, the national economy entered a recession for which there is currently no recovery. because of the current on certain state -- on certain state of the economy, we see no reason signs that the economy will approve sufficiently to allow us to secure financing for the project. we are waiting for the bay area and san francisco economy to improve and strengthen. we are requesting a three-year extension for the approved project. we believe this is the most realistic schedule to allow us to be successful with this project. it is our strong hope that with improved economic conditions, we can be in a position to secure the site permit in 2014. i would like to introduce alan martinez to give you a brief
overview of the product design. he has a history of developing x-ray building design and develop the design that was improved -- was approved by this commission. thank you. >> good afternoon. in thinking about what would be a building -- would be a good building, i looked at two things britain the first was standard guidelines for new construction in the district. the second was how the existing historic buildings worked initially when i walked around the district. in terms of the guidelines, they asked for compatibility. noticing that most of the buildings are built to the property line. most of the buildings are also simple, rectangular in volume so i wanted to keep a simple plot shape. i did not want to do some sort of elaborate shapes.