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i give you those examples just to say there is a serious amount of intentionally making sure that any time there are opportunities for jobs, that we will be maximizing those opportunities and setting us up for success. vice president torres: i have confidence in you and you have done an incredible job. it is impossible to get everyone to know what is going on. communication is key. no matter what you do, people will not give you credit for doing what you have done. many of the people who testified today do not know what has been going on. they have not been informed. it is not your fault, just thus making sure that we reached out as much as we can. >> definitely. i appreciate the feedback. >> i have asked this question before and i cannot remember the answer.
is this going to be a bond issue? >> multiple bonds. >> it seems to me that our interest should not be, and this is going to sound not correct, but are interested should not be the feedback from the rate payers. i think our interest should be an hour process should be the education, getting those people to one of the treatment plants or something on television to educate. anyone being educated would understand that this has to be done. that is going to be our main pursuit. >> the broader education thing makes perfect sense. a lot of discussion whether we thought we should have focus groups with everyone or just ratepayers. we are anticipating having bonds. this commission can propose the sale of those bonds and the board can approve them without going to the voters.
we thought it was much more reasonable to take a look at what the rate payers think as opposed to all of the renters who do not pay the bill directly, who would have to vote on something. if that strategy changes, then i think we have a different outlook on some things. we want to find out the ratepayers' attitude on these things. as commissioner torres said, there are some who do not care about some issues but care about things like seismic safety and public health. >> with a 20-year projection, that is five mayoral elections. and 10 board of supervisors elections that are out there. if those folks start running against rate increases, that
will be a problem for all of us. >> we did a five-year rate increase last time. we could do a 20-year increase this time if you would like and get it done in one fell swoop. >> if you are educating people who are in middle school today. by the time rates hit the fan in 10 years, they will be in their mid-'20s. prime voting time garrett it ends up being more important within the spectrum of things you can do. >> thank you very much. we are now at the tail end of the workshop. i want to thank you for your active participation, not just today but the prior workshops. several of the commissioners have met with us and had additional briefings. the program that we presented to you today brings our system to a
state of good repair. employees, state of the art technology, it hits all the marks that we are trying to hit. it makes our facilities good neighbors and enables us to increase our level of community benefits. it does take a robust community outreach program. i think julia and her staff have done a great job. they have brought on a communications person specifically for the ssip. they are working with me on a day-to-day basis. we will have a team of communications people who are assisting us. what is different about today is that we have a resolution and potential action for the commission. we are recommending that you approve the resolution. this would move us to endorsing the ssip revised goals and level of service. it would validate the $6.9 billion program and authorize us
to move forward with planning and development of the projects there were included in the phase one slides that we talked to you about at a cost of $2.7 billion. president moran: that resolution is in front of us. i know we have people who want to talk to this item. before we get to that, can i have a motion. it is in front of us. on our speakers, i have -- >> can i say one last thing? i want to also thank -- it is hard to express the amount of teamwork that has gone into this. behind me, we have a whole bundle of people who have helped and the leadership of general manager harrington has been so incredible for us. i want to a knowledge that. that was my last slide.
thank you. president moran: thank you for doing that. >> difficult to get it all into three minutes, but i will try to be fast. i am really excited. this is really important stuff. i commend karen and the entire gang. thinking about several things, the rate impact, if it really is that dramatic, i think people are going to be much more cautious and careful than they have been about use of portable water for portable purposes. i suspect there will be more of a push towards water systems and roof disconnects, which will impact water demand. taking these rate impacts and rebalancing our water demand projections is going to be a little difficult, but that will probably be necessary. we may not be at the city water
demand 10 or 20 years from now that we have projected with these cost increases. people will find ways to do the most appropriate thing. on the r & r program, it is important to bear in mind that as we increase our sewer inspection and repair at the same time we're doing this major capital work, there will be more investment in waste water and it will have beneficial effects. getting to a state of good repair is good, but there will be more construction impact in the neighborhood and at the plant. there will be a lot more work and we have to be sensitive to that. i appreciate commissioner moller caen's concerns about cost and speeding things up. at the same time, there are enormous real-estate challenges to deal with central shocks and to move things around it in the
southeast in particular. we cannot do too many things at once and keep the system running. i think staff is challenged in trying to figure that out. there are some very real issues with how to phase it. very briefly, on the green infrastructure, i think that will have impact on water conservation. as there is more water infiltration, that will have portable and non portable offsets. we should look at water conservation and green in separate boxes but also in the crossover impact's going forward. in addition to these projects, if $7 billion is not enough, there will be more in the future. possible nutrient removal, all of the future regulatory drivers. this is all the stuff we need to
be doing now. we need to continue to invest in the system. it is not a system that invests in itself. we need to continue to follow that. just to end, although the costs are significant, i hope will be -- we will be looking to grant sources, federal, state, other opportunities to minimize the impacts. thank you. >> commissioners, over the last 40 years, one of the instruments that best gave me an idea of our system, we talk about new york and boston, los angeles, a very good documentary film. we have a very good documentary
film on hetch hetchy. when we are talking about education, we need to invest in an instrument such as that so that huge amounts of people can get the best type of education from the best type of experts presented to them so that it can be repeated again and again and again in our schools, in our high schools, in our middle schools, in our colleges, in our universities. having done that, then we can thensfgov or some other pbs to reach the general public. we need to think about that so that if we have a media expert onsome of us think about outreah
like going to focus groups. that is all good, but that is just the tip of the iceberg. as one who represents the first people, my concern at has been stated by some of the speakers here is that we cannot afford to use hetch hetchy water, good water, to flush our commodes. that is a crime, so as these new buildings come up, we have to emphasize gray water. we are now embarking on an education, and out there, we have a lot. the ability to discern and get
the best information is education. that is what we need to do right now. do we have people, astute people in the bay area, that can discern and bring the best education to form these types of models that we can use in a digital world. that is our challenge. it is not a huge challenge, but it is a challenge. we have the best people in the entire world right here in the bay area. thank you very much. president moran: thank you. ms. jackson? >> thank you. espinola jackson, bayview hunters point. i listened very carefully to some of the statements that were being made. i remember when we were getting
our sewage, this commission was talking about raising the sewage years ago. what we stated at that time, and i am going to state it again, because i know you were not here. one of the ways that you can get information is through the sewage bill. everybody gets a sewage bill. and put it in the different languages so they will know what is going on. that is the best way in the world. that is old hat. now, we talked about the .e. -- th e -- the e.r. less than six months during the america's cup. now, i know you can do the same for bayview hunters point.
my good friend, commissioner caen, we can talk about as low- income -- i get $991 per month social security. a figure that out by 12 months, that came to $11,892, i think. do you know what? we have a lot of old people in the community, older than me, that get less than $20,000 per year, and there should be away like at&t do or those of us who are aging, give us a lifeline, so find out what the income is so that we can then be on a lifeline.
if you send me something and say, "what should i pay?" i would say, "nothing." i am serious. because you have been here 50 years, and i have been paying and paying, so do not charge me anything. i would say the zip code should be exempt. thank you. president moran: espinola, we are not old. we are chronologically gifted. >> ok, sweetheart. about the sewage bill, everyone get one, so that would be a way of getting information of getting something out, and thank you so much. you have a blessed evening, and i am going to go before they close the front door. president moran: thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. first of all, a want to let you
know that i am definitely in support of the project moving forward. i am not only a native san franciscan, i was also born and raised in san francisco. my parents came from another area and bought their first house about a four-minute walk from another address and about a six-minute walk to the plant. i have been exposed to that aroma, and i think as we move forward and the proposals have been presented here, there are a couple of things i want to stress. as a community, we are not looking for jobs anymore. these people need to make sure that they have a career, especially when the construction industry jobs are very short.
i've always tried to remind people that these are temporary jobs. when you think you have made it, then the jobs are cut. i am definitely supporting fact that we should started in the middle school. i am also asking that the consultants go back and if they have not done that, make sure they implement aid internships program -- an internship program. the other thing i would like to echo, as ms. jackson already mentioned, please look at the rate increase in the next year. there are going to be a lot of people who are not going to be able to afford that, and i think it is important to revisit the construction schedule. my district that i represent, the district that i was born in, and the district i have a business in, we have waited long
enough. i really feel that we can step up hope for the construction process and give the community while we have been waiting for a long time. thank you very much. president moran: thank you. yes, please. >> commissioners, i am -- from bayview hunters point. congratulations to them for putting together a long anticipated plan, and part of the moving forward that we mentioned earlier is your endorsement of the resolution moving forward again, because there are projects, are dependent on some of the actions because of their sequencing, so from our community perspective, we would like to unanimously endorse this project. president moran: yes, sir? >> i thank you for the
opportunity. my name is -- first of all, i want to thank mr. harrington for his involvement with the city. he has been a great supporter. i hate to see you go, but i know you have got other things to do. and i want to congratulate everyone for making mr. kelly the new representative. i know personally, i am and american samoa and have lived here all of my life, and bayview is my home, too. i grew up on the hill, watching the things change. what i am really looking for, the new years to come, you provide directions and policy for him, because i see us growing out there. i see more people getting involved, and for those people who do not know, bayview has become very divorce, so we want
to keep that in mind, and we want to thank you again for making him the new general manager. we hope everything works out well. thank you very much for your time. president moran: thank you. miss? >> thank you very much. jennifer, clean water action. i apologize i did not come to the private workshop, probably why i was so confused with the presentation, but i would like to say that i support the resolution. i have a couple of changes i would like to suggest. the first is just a little typo, saying that the bill is less than the average household income. epa calculates that on median household income, maybe you can just change that? as i stated before, when you
adopted the level of services, there is nothing really environmental year, and one thing the sewer system has done, it has pretty much destroyed the environment by channeling it every creek in san francisco, which analyze it -- channeling every creek and san francisco -- in san francisco. a policy that the water enterprise has in adopting and implementing batch as part of the sfip, so that would be one suggestion, and it could be something like implement the stewardship policy and the implementation of the dream projects. something basic like that. and next, i would just like to support what david pilpel said,
about it going down, and i think it will be more dramatic. i am going to be on social security by the time this is implemented, and i will not be spending of four $200 per month on my sewer bill. i am going to have composting toilets and rainwater harvesting on my roof. i am going to do everything i can to conserve water. i want to congratulate the sfpuc, because you are ahead of others in looking at this. i want you to continue looking at that as this program comes in. as you increase your alternative water supply program, that is something that you should think about expanding to those communities, as well, and finally, when you talked about integrating green and gray, i am not really sure what that means. i am not sure what the percentage of green and gray is,
and i will leave that to the eir to figure it out. when there were talking about the ipad survey they did for the waste water enterprise, you know at the same time, you were doing one for the recycled water program, and did you need to do that? my time is up. thank you. president moran: thank you. any further comment? ok, commissioners, what is your pleasure? it has been moved and seconded. no other comment, all of those in favor? opposed? the resolution carries. [applause]
the next item is for public comment on matters enclosed session. i would just like to say that we would love to stay here all evening. we have to get out of the room though at 6:00, and they need it actually ahead of time so they can set it up for the entertainment commission, so i would ask forbearance and brevity in the public comments, but, mr. pilpel, you had a public comment? >> david pilpel, just to comment on wages, benefits, and working conditions. i think something in he 255 to 275 range would be something for the new general manager and benefits in terms to a department head 5 and the related provisions in the agreement i think makes sense, and looking very much forward to him as general manager, and
thank you all for your diligence today and continuing diligence on the commission. president moran: thanks. secretary hood: did you already speak, or did you have a card? >> in the bay area, there has been a big population, and we have been out there, too, so when you do the consideration, please throw us in, and we have got a high unemployment rate. we are about almost 70%, so if you can keep that in mind, i would appreciate it. president moran: thank you very much. item 12, can i have a motion on whether to assert the attorney- client privilege on matters during the closed session? moved to assert?
any comments? all of those in favor? opposed? the motion carries. >> commissioners, i mentioned earlier, i do not know if there was any damage due to that sinkhole, but there was damage, so we close the school, , so there is more damage, and we are working on it. president moran: thank you. madam secretary, if you could please call items 13 and 14? secretary hood: item number 13, pursuant to government code section 54957 for the hiring of the general manager of the san francisco public utilities commission and pursuant to government code section 54954,
and 67.8 (a5), and 54956.9 (a) and 67.10 (d1). >> we are back in open session. the commission took no action with respect to item 13. item 14, approves. do i have a motion whether to approve the discussion? >> a motion not to disclose. >> second. >> all those in favor? >> that motion carries. other new business as a commission? >> if you will indulge me just for a moment, earlier today, we
heard about the southeast community facility in the city college. i thought it was a little interesting that all of the other facilities of city college have an admissions desk. i was hoping we could get somebody on staff to check into that and figure out why there is not an emissions desk at the southeast facility. >> i believe there is. i will check, but i believe there is one. >> that stuck out to me. >> it may not be as obvious as in some other places, but i will check. >> any other new business? seeing none, we are adjourned. thank you.