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submitting the paperwork it is demon you have eligibility your committed to keeping the registration in good standing by following the proper rules of not rent out more than 90 days unhosted we want to achieve hundred percent and one hundred percent registration those go hand in hand and a core mission to make those efforts continue and make them more cable and robust. >> following up you have it ideally i know the mayor's office didn't give you that start how long to achieve that goal. >> i can't put a timeline around it i'd like to say as
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quickly as possible again knowing that the picture of the number of listings is changing again, all the things about where those number of listings overall come from i don't think that realistically getting one hydropercent can happen but certainly we're working aggressively to let people know there is conflicts for not following the rule. >> what are the kinds of things that platforms can do to help you. >> under the current set of rules you've touched upon the rules we have in place wear looking at individualizing and individual properties that ain violation we incorporate those into our enforcement process. >> would it help if platforms
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only listed registrations units. >> so platforms are - individuals allergies are riders to identify the registration number once they become registered that did city so that is a in and of itself is a violation if you have a listing on one of the hosting platforms without a registration number listed again, i can't comment or speculate on the procedures that come down the line. >> so okay. so if airbnb is listing a unit that is not rent-controlled units that is a violation. >> it's a violation of the person doing that listing without being recommendations or having a registration new number. >> okay. so but airbnb is not violate is that what you're saying from our position the person is violating but not the
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platform. >> under the current set of rules the enforcement is fblgdz on the enforcement and the obligation is focused around the property and the host whether or not a they've gone through the demonstrateing of the tax clerk and our office. >> does that mean our office has no intention of going after the hosting. >> i'm not sure what you mean by going after the rules in place don't provide us with a mechanism necessarily for enforcing in mass an is hosting platforms but future legislation whether passed by the voters are observing a police radios weight of the testimony incorporate and so you don't have the authority to go after or fine a platform right now. >> no, we have the ability to
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go after individualizing, hosts in vision, folks with multiple allergies across multiple that platforms. >> i know we're going to move the hearing forward i do is are a question about sort of what to expect moving forward what kind of reporting do you anticipate providing the board of supervisors and the rest of the city going forward. >> well building on some of the suggestions of supervisor mar i think we would like to migrate to the overview of the process and upping the website the tax clerk's office can talk about the business world they've launched i'd like to see that
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migrate over that place to kind of get dashboard data kind of gross level the locations of the short-term rentals across the city and running day an open violations and penalties assess and collected all the kind of information the data points we're talking about today more robust place for information sharing not just to the board bow to the general public comment and welcome the opportunities to come to this committee or other agencies to report back periodically. >> i'd like to formally request a monthly report on your enforcement forevers and ankle that today is 30th maybe in a month get a sense of where things are you think that would be helpful to me and sheds a lot of lights on this i want to
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sorts of finish with one question do you feel that you have the resources you need to side your job. >> yes. >> i do. >> so 3 employees, 3 from planning is enough. >> so i do and for several reasons number one as i mentioned the folks that are migrated from the planning department are folks working on those cases really set up a lot of the infrastructure of the details of both registration and enforcement process we've all right a gained a lot of efficiency in that registration process by migrating on the scheduling and stealing our thurnl but a discussion about the launch of the business protocol there are a lot of efficiency in that place and ways for folks to not
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only educate themselves better about what the rules are and determine if fair eligible and get them registered quibble we have mechanisms in place to do our enforcement work more effectively i don't want to delve into the flails and the additional staff breaking and entering on while we enhances capabilities. >> well, i'm actually surprised by that response i know the planning commission recommended 6 employees i'm actually shocked you let say you have enough right now but if i'm one of the thousands of people yet to register i'll feel comfortable knowing that i'll be okay doing what i doing for a while i'm going to turn it over to our treasurers office. >> supervisor campos i think we have a few other explicit
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questions for mr. guy first of all, thank you for being here we need to acknowledge this is a lot of this in the inspection of political discussion we've had over the last year here at board of supervisors insides of city hall some of this feels like da just have you i want to few things to ask with i think that is really important i appreciate people are in line we may have difference of opinion a ballot measure that's been discussed around this topic we need a tack a step back from my prospective first of all, do you recall the most when registration was able to start happening i mean because a lot of the context gosh how many
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people are rent-controlled units tests been open for a few years or 10 years that may not sound like a lot by the registration process was beginning and its been less than a year a matter of months i was eluding to the earlier some of the methods metrological dissolution around the registration process i don't understand in the early days of the registration process the scheduling was a little bit different a surge of application people had to wait awhile to come in and complete their registration process and any graced to an online scheduling system people are typically getting in within a couple of days that's well, the outside edge a week but within a couple of days our support staff has
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been corroborative allowing people to e-mail the information further down the line when it becomes available to verify the residentscy without come in for is another appointment it is natural we'll have a surge of registrations initial and made a good point in the limit amount of time although it is not the entire picture it is a substantial amount of applications. >> gordon's with that the office of short-term rentals the legislation we passed that was created after february the office your heading up now i forget the time summer so further down the line a few months ago the office was created when did you come on the job here. >> 2 and a half weeks ago.
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>> so here's the context of from my prospective we need to talk about i appreciate the differences of political opinion but important for i think in the context of that discussion and kind of grissel i offer the numbers and why have not's you done there more that registration process starting in february that office was creates and you started our job 2 1/2 weeks ago whether it is outside of city government and a city business or inside of city hall and city agency being created i don't know of any others city department been created inns overwhelms we need to understand there are bumps along the roads and you'll learn as head of the office i heard the similar complaints
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come february that's why we set up this office the mayor was the leaders but i also find it humorous to grill people and criticize so shortly after the agency was created and expect and demands all the answers that is really important to acknowledge that the goal here from my prospective is hundred percent compliance is hundred percent enforcement and not so say and any means none receives on their laurltz but close to 7 hundred registrations it is up and running after the for the fierce few months do you know what the run rate do you have a run rate per registration per month renew. >> i don't have that in front of me we have 9 proclamations
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pending that is likely indicative of the applications that were we're reviewing to verify the day or have additional information it with the biggest spike after the adoption of rules. >> many any case i think that again, while we want this to be up and running effective immediately we all needs to acknowledge it is going to act a or take a percent to get the office up and running to have crystal listed opinions if you need resources droerdz and one thing i'm comment on as relates to reporting something that was a priority of supervisor christensen when we debated this they put in there a condition of the legislation we passed posts
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are required to report quarterly that is voluntary not kind of invasive the privacy and those are general tops that legislation has touched on but i think that is important to make sure we know gordon's we'll have quarterly indicate if registrations hosts and, you know, i think that is parts of the importance of that legislation and your discussions moving forward i want to make sure we have that context early in this discussion. >> okay supervisor campos. >> thank you i'd like to call on the our treasurer and let me say that i don't think that the criticism is levied at mr. guy he's doing the best he can in a difficult situation a tested time of and priority this is and the point that if we took this
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you know seriously are a fraction a sooirl as we take parking enforcements that would be a different situation and and it is mardz to imagine 3 enforcement agents properly endorsing parking but 3 folks in the agency to provide context you probably have an easier shot at winning the lottery so let's see turn to the treasurer. >> good morning supervisors amanda from the office of trier i apologize on behalf of the treasurer he couldn't be here today, i want to give a brief update and thank you to kevin
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guy we've met three or four times and probably on the phone for several hours i appreciate that collaboration and hope if continues you mean the first process in the hosts is to get a business host registration and we launched and saw a surge in the pending applications we rehabilitations early on the process was not as easy and worked quickly to fix that i think you've seen we've been chipping away at the issue probably longer than anyone the tax clerks registration in envelope the beginning of all this citing this action short-term rentals was subject to our t ot our hotel tax wife continues to plug away with the balance getting every cents of review that is owed to the city under the tax and balancing the
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needs of smallest taxpayers like the hosts come in and trying to complying with a set of laws wear excited to announce we announced we're the first city in the country i believe the world to come into agreement with airbnb to be a qualified website company the company has provided autopsy all the information we require we've had our requirements posts online for every hosting playroom the company has to get a certificate of the fort authority to remit the form and to collect and remit the t ot in corneas were our regulations that is important we have two potential operators we have hosts on the other hand, and is websites company it is confusing for the
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hosts to have their website company we paid the tax and go to say host you can prove that we wanted to set up a process that is easy for the host to make sure they're in compliance of tax law we can say we have this agreement moving forward and we have worked with the members of the board and thank you to supervisor wiener for sponsoring our small operator legislation that legislation was important for every host in san francisco regardless the platform you they eyed surviving craigslist and putting up notices ever yahoo if you earn less than 40 thousand a year in our t organization to 80 t the reminders is is similar you dwoo
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don't have to get and caretaker of authority and file and pay that once a year instead of every to it sets up an easier way the folks you hear if false imprisonment and i hear from we're trying to comply with the 7 hundred folks that came in when the gate opposite side we really wanted to keep their confidence we are that making the process easier for folks to come into experience on the tax side that's our obligation i encourage everybody to go online to the business portal i can't say enough about the business portal we work to put amp all the taxpayer content online at the business portal that means that is written in english and easy to understand there are nice graphic and a starter kit
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for every host not recommends please come and visit and download our starter kit it will tell you how to comply not only would the tax but the offense of short-term rentals it is easy mates that's myopia invitation we need every hosted to come into and registration the tax situation has cleared come on board no excuses and expect to see a lot of traffic and appreciate working with everyone on the board and in the city family on that. >> thank you. i just have a quick couple follows up with the collection of taxes we heard from mr. guy his presentation only less than 6 percent of hosts have registrations or listing are registrations do you
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collect tax only from registered listing how does that work. >> no, it is our duties in the codes duo to collection the tax due on every taxing transaction if someone is not following the law we need to make sure we collect every penny owed. >> the office of short-term rentals that is charged with enforcing the short-term rental law you have our office collecting taxes including from listing not registrations is interest coordination i mean, you have two thank you you it t two city agrees are you coordinating with them and letting them know that you have collected money from people not registrations? >> we're not permitted to share that information with outlets agencies under our taxpayer confident but we have a team of
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veterans affairs that find upcoming rent-controlled unit businesses and businesses not filing their third party tax the parking and such 15 people in the building of revenue and collaborating with mr. guy since his start and the planning department before that to make sure they send us referrals to add to the enforcements team, of course, our enforcement is focused on and on on business registration and tax that's our commitment to that efforts. >> has there been any violation found through those efforts. >> i'm not allowed to disclose. >> is if governed by local law or is it state of federal law. >> which pieces and your i think ability to disclose.
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>> it is 6.22. >> if we wanted to allow for disclosure we can change that section to let that happen. >> i believe we believe that taxpayer consist confidentiality is one of the reasons we're successful i ask a thorough discussion on the matter and certainly advice from the irs and the tax agencies on that. >> soy understand sort of how this works it is not clear to me so are you saying that as your collecting taxes and you find someone is breaking the law you're actually letting the office of shorelines know or no. >> we're - no, if we find on our side we don't look at any planning department uses in our investigation. >> okay.
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>> that's odd because i know forensic for instance, they get information about compliance with the business licenses. >> true a one-way street we work with the city agencies to help them to understand and wants an odd and a one way it insures that the city receives all the taxes owed. >> i want people to understand the significance of this essentially you have a treasurers office that is essentially not sharing information about non-compliance with registration and all those other things i think this is a surprise to a lot of people certainly a surprise to me let me ask you a question in
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terms of the taxes that your collecting given that the vast majority of hosts are not registrations how do you know you're actually collecting the right amount of taxes. >> so hosts everyone doing any type of business in san francisco needs to have a business registration step one for any business regardless of size we can go out and say you are doing something without a business registration that's a particular type of violation or if one has a business registration and they're not remitting the correct millennium we have several opportunities to investigate or audit observing a
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more severe complication. >> a mechanism for those hosts not using platforms that are not quality in terms of collecting taxes from them. >> until yesterday the hosts were given a monthly reminder to file which is a cutterscy notice to come online all the payments are online they have to report and remit like all hotels in the city now we're scoring every host to come back online to our new portal and tells you whether they're using a equaled website company and be designated as a small operator and we'll collect that bans the schedules. >> i know you can't share specific tax information there are about 60 platforms making
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money in san francisco do you know how many of them are actually remetro taxes. >> the only one we can speak of the one we deemed a qualified website company that's the way that companies have waved in their right to confidentiality. >> how many. >> one okay. so of the 60 platforms that are engaging in short-term rentals in san francisco there is on this one qualified website company a. >> correct. >> one out of 60. >> yes. most website companies they're a varieties of different business operations so we can follow a difference in collecting the payments from a guest directly and remitting it deregulation or serving as a liz agency that's an important distinction that's why we have
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this bye indicated responsibility and a website platform deemed as operators depending on how a website is structured that is you know we need to make sure we're getting the money from somebody and the onerous on the website company and the hosts to thrills. >> is it harder it complex which no website company. >> not harder per say for us. >> uh-huh. >> certainly a bigger list a lot of smaller taxpayers that is challenging for individual hosts to learn about tax laws and keep the business in compliance we moved to make that smart operator and changes to make that easier. >> who has the enrollments responsibility to make a platform a qualified website. >> the tax collector. >> so what's your strategy for increasing the number of qualified website companies from
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one to one out of 60 to 60 out of 60. >> from our vantage point we're responding to adversaries as they arise with taxpayers the first company out of the gate is the first, we building is the first agreement in the country of that type so we would have he had over regulations posted for the last year and do a lot of work to inform companies in violation of the lieu alu and continue to do that and bring them into experience compliance the last set of questions a number of business licenses for the purposes of engaging in short-term rentals that have been issued do you know how many. >> there are somewhere between 7 and 9 hundred and okay. if you have people who have secures
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those business licenses to do short-term rentals in san francisco but not registrations with the city are you sharing that information with anyone. >> all the business registration data is online date sf we post to it regularly so, yes it is contrary you can go on now and see who is registrations and not registrations. >> uh-huh. >> do you have an opinion as to whether the office of short-term rentals has enough staff. >> i'm familiar. >> colleagues ross are the questions. >> ms. reed thank you for all your work and you've been a great partner to establish the office of short-term rentals i think what was lost in a lot of the discussions where it should reside and who should be part of it and the online tool that was featured yesterday's or today in
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the paper thanks for being part of progress here. >> thank you. >> so colleagues that concludes the preservation portion the hearing he know there are a number of people that are here for public comment i'd like to to open that up to them the point i want to make and thank you to mr. guy in a short period of time 2 and a half weeks i think getting up to speak quicken the problem is not with mr. guy and the peep working there they're doing the best they can but the level of resources this city has given this agency and the fact we have jet to make that the priority thus, we have an agency where there is on this 3 employees for thousands of unregulated listing where there is no target goal in
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terms of inclines compliance and no measurable term in terms of the effectiveness you have at the same time at agency that is collecting tax and do a good job this is not sharing information about compliance even though the vast majorities of people that are paid are breaking the law so for me a very, very grave situation and not a very bright picture and that so thank you it for the opportunities to have this discussion. >> thank you supervisor campos we still have a quorum or the; right? i want to share i'm appreciative of the office of sheriff's airbnb feinstein paying it's back taxes this
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would not have happened without supervisor campos and others to keep the lights on this new industry that has arisen i worry about sometimes when announcements like today is announcements on the improvements that it is done so with takes us away from the millions of dollars it airbnb are pouring against prop t we're flooded in over homes with propaganda from one side i worry about pr and other efforts make that sound like that the city is doing something and no where near enough thank you supervisor campos and others for reasonable regulations he have one quick question i know you're not able to talk about mr. heeding e reed the amount of taxes from the treasurers office identified the back taxed ocean side how did we calculate the museum that was
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paid by airbnb after holding out for months and months until communities demanded it including is a matter of fact, feinstein. >> i'll certainly not talk about it in particular to a certain taxpayer but some of the tools our office uses are looking at the codes looking at the various penalties and interest structures that the codes affords us and marking determinations and making tax meetings to determine those issues those are some of the fools for any taxpayer not found in compliance. >> so ms. wong we've ask do question do - and supervisor campos. >> i'll call a few names. >> we'll open this up to public comment people that are here to speak
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(calling names). >> if you can come to the mike and line up to your right our left limit to 2 minutes a buzzer will go off and please could our best to be succinct ms. wellborn. >> we needs information about the number ever illegal and legal short-term rentals and who is paying tax how so the treasurer know it is getting all the taxed owed i haven't heard evidence about that there is so much we don't know i personally observed some of the 15 hearings that were held a couple of months ago and 15 hearings out of 10 thesis or so listing is
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almost a joke and most of those hearings were on violations that were started before the february law planning has failed us short-term rentals under thirty days were illegal anything else february and where was planning what was the city in terms of endorsing the law now we have a few cases where a few people got to have a hearing and awning what the folks bho who were enforcing the short-term law give them a notice in june you've been violating the law since february and any penalties that are assessed on this handful of people were only after that notice of june 30th date it is ridiculous that we have
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thousands and thousands of units individual and corporately run legally and have a tiny number that planning previously to february and short-term rentals since have actually taken action on we are losing housing we need to stop it now. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon i'm doug nielsen a homeownership and live in noah valley and lived in san francisco since 1975 retired i have an in-law unit the house i live in full-time and it depends on the income from short-term rentals to help me pay my property tax i'm strongly against proposition f i've registrations this units i'm with an of the hundred that
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have i have a business license and pay hotel tax and have additional insurance to cover the units if prop f passes i'll losses the short-term rental income i'm will ultimately have to sell any house which sincerely is a house i want to this in for the rest of my life and san francisco and this as well very well could stop me without this income and if prop f passes it will - what concerns me the protection. >> i actually you're not allowed to campaign in the chamber so i know there are people that are here each side of that issue i would ask that you whether i mean to our comments to this specific issue before the hearing without referring any ballots measure.
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>> i apologize if i've been wrong. >> the other issue the issue the privacy that is been brought up and what we need to report to the city and when i'm staying many my house the names of the guests that are staying at my house and all privacy issues are extremely savior and are concerns of mine the february in february legislation was passed we talked about that home sharing was passed he supports the regulation and unfortunately, the regulations i'm against evictions that took place of tenants for the person of home sharing this is not what i stand for . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i have a few more names
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(calling names). >> my name is learning petty i'm a registered voter in san francisco since 1967 i'm very, very concerned there is no adequate enforcements of short-term rentals i'm concerned that time and good intentions can't say stop an affordable housing large number of illegal units from our housing stock without proper enforcement instead of small hosts making ends meet what we have here is corporate commercial hosts taking over the process and making enormous profits and a shrinkage of affordable units down to zero if there's an estimates of 10
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thousand listing and 60 websites that is 10 thousand places that i and and friends and thousands of others permanent residents cannot rents it is vitalityville environmental to have effective - person-to-person relationship will be returned to us and a balanced number ofizing will be established i urge the budget committee and peripheries i think supervisor campos keep the pressure up and the - it seems clear up mr. guy department didn't have adequate few minutes to do the job thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning. i'm teresa from north beach where there are 22 units that have been operating as vacation rentals
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for years nothing has changed in that we have recorded these and department of planning mass come out and dbi has come out and all that was needs was for the rattler realtor that took had units out for permanent residents to do vacation rents is continuing to do that he said to planning and dbi no, i'm not no longer doing short-term rentals i'm no longer doing that just a few days ago i went by there the lockboxes and floods of people coming out of the same additional 22 units for years that have been vacation rentals they continue to be listed they have liens against building a long history of liens and still
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operating another units was add in one building 3 doors down from me so it is they don't have the tools they don't have the tools they need the tools and one is listing actual enforcement and having that data so thank you. >> thank you i'm going to read a few more names (calling names). >> good afternoon my name is tony rob he lives with the manila town and with the senior disability action it is time to rein in the gravy train it was telling how much the communities push back the commentating community had to side to get the platforms to pair their outstanding taxes i find it alarming what is going on in the neighborhoods we're looking want mission with 40 percent of the
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vacant units being used by airbnb and other short-term rental platforms i know that 35 in castro and even larger in the hate you know the people we serve seniors and people with disabilities have been extremely hit hard by evictions that have been fueled by this hunger by any maples toes indicate people from their long term units to facilitate engaging in f this business model a cleaver for some people but meant very dire consequences for sentences and people with disabilities we need to give those departments tools which they can more effectively monitor and enforce the law
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which has been disregarded for such a long time thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> my name is karen i'm a licensed home sharer i'm i'd like to differ with one of the people that said 10 thousand rentals available our rental like even though hosts i have met through all the long campaign can't be a long term register not having a kitchen it as has a bedroom and bathroom i hope this hearing to get a report on tax collection and enrollment a perfectly - many of the questions lead to from the
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city is so concerned of registration why not do a public continental encouraging registration but stops local newspapers we have a lot of local newspapers and website there are places hosts maybe waiting before spending money to register for fear that the tax information will be handled over to - i agree with the supervisor farrell two months 9 violations and final side we should congratulate an office fotsdz not opposed with the speed especially with three staff i'd give more money to the office to do the registration, the public campaign also for people that
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want to file a complaint so i think we should give them time the new office and 86. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> and we have a couch more names (calling names) then any must be who would like to please come on up. >> i'm ashlyly a tax paying sf residents for 9 years and have a subset and short time rented on airbnb a platform that collects and pace tax to the city whether wrenldz or not i pay all the tax and i have no problem sharing my personal information on to say i'm paying my fair share but not for the purposes the taxpayer
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protection sure we pay our taxis without fear and our personal information is not turned over to i cu it is not necessary to change that this information is dangerous thank you. >> hi i'm sarah with the human rights board members it is brother-in-lawly clear that office of short-term rentals is simply a faster not more than a political stunt shortly before an election the reason he know that is because it is become apparent that the whole ideas of actual enforcement is an afterthought i've been to the website no form of where you can
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file a complaint no information as to whether a citizen can file yet today, we found out that the kept is entirely reciprocated on citizen complaints yet at the same time, we know those people are hyde no plan site look at the listing on airbnb new stories of tenants been evicted for short-term rentals and people bragging how much money they make with short-term rentals while they travel throughout europe financing this and teaching classes their outs there you look at airbnb hi, i'm carolyn 13 units for rents why is the city not going to proactively go after those folks another important point mr. guy if they're in compliance if compliant we'll not continue the
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enforcement what does that mean in the past with the department of building inspection that is planet that simply a host can take the listing of the site no matter what he this in the past renting 50 units legally but not doing it any longer their noted in compliance. >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is - we have a small unit we're pga our t o toshgs tax were in the western edition to the sharing of information i want to address myself i career about keeping san francisco a sanctuary city for immigrants you asked do tax collector to share with ice about dumped
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immigrants who pay taxed on a san francisco as to the number of 6 percent and 10 thousand months ago when mr. chiu it thousand suddenly 10 thousand what about the multiply listing on platforms let's cut it down stop with the number of 10 thousand let's going if you keep saying it often enough people will repeat it host are not registering due to activities part of it the honor stuff that was happening i think using the carrot mr. guy i think maximum will be a deterrence and fines i reads something to the effect one person is final side like 7 that thousand dollars if
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you don't think that will scare the hell out of a lot of people and make them go into compliance your not thinking or reading i'm one of the hosts that is rent-controlled units and will work very hard to get the hosts to register especially now that mr. guys office is making it skshl easier i will be working hard to get other people registrations. >> i have a few more names i don't know how to read the last name anyone else. >> i've eir vin hosts on airbnb for 6 years when people didn't know i'm ecstatic that airbnb is collecting my hotel tax as part
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of the million dollars per month their omitting for san francisco on behalf of hosts i watch my other competition on airbnb they've noticed a number of unhosted listing moved from the site disappeared i don't know because of the work mr. guys office or the departments or airbnb is doing but the results is the same bad actors are reechld from the site and fines are levied and selected that was everybody what is hoping for when the short-term rentals laws were passed implemented less than 9 months ago the bad actors lou gehrig's disease they'reizing and hundreds of thousands of fines in 8 months is too this and two slow this is san francisco it takes decades to make a new museum or take down a broken freeway we're a
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deliberate town give the legislation times to work one other thing mr. guy and his staff would be anymore effective if they could staying in the office instead of appearing before supervisor campos. >> i'm loraine i rent an room and baths think airbnb and had a probation officer experience both with the company and with my desk so i'm in february he objected a business license and registered with the planning department and since january i've filed t ot online and closed a note saying the tax have been collected and renot limited to by airbnb several months ago i was concerned about the tax situation that was not really clear what i was sloped
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supposed to do we were reshaurdz the information that we gave to the tax office was not shared with other government agencies i believe that this was the case on the state and federal level with the tax information is not shared with others governmental agencies that opens up something dangerous an urban i unwise i'm concerned about any consequences flowing from any restrictions to it protection we enjoy in our country so i just received notice on my overwhelm that airbnb is now a qualified website company and i just updated any information with that city short-term rental office and that shows me there is progress last week so many people have said give it went to work i've seen demonstrated evidence they're doing something
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so thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm esther a resident of san francisco for the last 20 years i have a room in my house that has been never in the math or market it is mostly empty i rent out to guest any neighbors come to me and ask me if i can rent to their relatives people that go to have medical procedures they stay at my place because homeless are too expensive they come to here to have interviews and rent out my space he have great experience we want to share the good news to everybody san francisco is making it easier for people who rents their homes to traveler to date the 40 percent he hotel
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altercation it is one of the highest taxed in compared with other cities that short-term rental are legal and their collecting hosts that rent inclusive airbnb now free from red tape when it comes to the city's hotel tax are that this news that makes people to come and register is what makes the process transparent you know you have tried to share information from from one agency to another agency it self-happen in any other states there is a federal and local level not going to help to the transcripts of system i urge you not to share information from the tax
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collectors to another agency the places, dates, and times arrested overloaded i don't think that will help thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> i want to thank commissioner richards for being here. >> i'm dennis a planning commission but as an individual i had the unfortunate opportunity to see them i recommend watch i wanted to thank mr. guy and is treasurers office i work with the planning department's and have nothing but respect and haven't worked with the treasurer office i'll put an analogy together we have 5 or 10 thousand riders on muni on 6 hundred and 67 pace the fair or 44 hadn't whatever the number someone excused someone
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of throwing yellow paint only 3 muni officer they stop all yellow people that is the anything else is not doing random missed checks i was hoping mr. guy we have random in his checks like muni people that don't may pa pair in their fair share and i'm it will get other people to pair their fair share for other resources. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm peter the founder of home sharer of san francisco a support group for the exultant of hosts over 2 thousand members we want to share but a couple of things first of all, i've heard by the comments today a lot of the comments at the websites
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companies particularly airbnb i'm tell you what the initial is about how ordinary person like me people trying to earner income from the home sharing this about obvious trying to stay in san francisco instead of putting the proclaim blame at housing units overview hooves for the housing shortage that helps homeowners to live in san francisco that's the first thing the second thing about registration there was a huge amount of interest among homeownership to get registrations in february since then it has changed a lot of interest on the rent-controlled units has been legal this is a politically charges issue in any particular ballot measure but the climate
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of fear and fingerpointing of the members that prefer to stay in the shadows and until the dust settled that put a damper on the hosts the him in to get registrations i'll urge supervisors to let this law work we're in favor of the enforcements in favor of the against the bad actors, and we're in favor of giving me the office of shortly or short-term rentals to resources they need to make sure that law works. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> thank you for the opportunity i'm paula 20 years rinds in the europe sunsets supervisor yee's district the main point i'd like to to make i good as mentions support
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the enforcement of the registration process and permitting process i was number 70 in the permits it was a little bit bumpy i went to the treasurers office but thankfully things worked out i was happy to hear that the states of airbnb but put a face to it we recently had my daughter go to college last year that was an anniversary that year for being an airbnb host we have the availability a ram in our house to share that was a hurdle for us, to overcome sharing with unknown people but helping us to pay the tuition for my daughter a lot of the talk and suggestions are well intend matt haney you have to make the best for san francisco who will be harm's from the proposals overwhelm not only concerned
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about any liability but the validate to send my daughter to college and including some of the proposition proposals will seriously limit my guest and in fact, off market completely we hope you take into consideration and how the harm might occur to people like myself and my family consideration. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> hi, i'm gesture with the san francisco tenants union i have a lot of experience for enforcement issue so two years ago ted air force went to the city attorney's office i create a database of 3 hundred violations i knew in their names and violations and how many units and the da took one case a sexy case an ellis act involved but grdz the other 2 hundred
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blausz plus we emigrate an attorney that helped us bring 7 cases through dbi and went through the hearings kevin is talking about we were told despite the owners saying yes. we've been doing this for two years and presented in evidences and went undercover to pose as guest that because of the day of the hears the lisa was pulled that know no notice of violation was issued compliance is the exact same situation as long as you're not doing it on the day of the hearing that is fine that's going not going to work if you don't have penalties i've checked request the previous cases they're all online i've written a couple of them and there not following the rules we've brought 13 more cases to
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the participating nothing they stopped returning my overwhelms we need to get serious about penalties people will not registration and follow the rules thanks. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello, i live in district one a house on second avenue for me home sharing is viable vertebrae have two kid and an entry room my parents come from developing and other family members we give a gift to my kids having them grouping in a home with other people from around the world's i'm trying to make it through preschool this is greatly helping us that's room that we would never
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rent out it is our house not rents it out you for the truth of the matter asserted and when we travel travel with i a wles for the whole house you count that as the 10 or 12 thousand units off the market that is simply not the case it helps us to go do connecticut i recommended immediately i'm happy to hear about the improvements it is getting easier that increases the rate of residence i'm happy to pay any tax i agree that the info about my tax should go to the tax collector it shouldn't be shared i'd be surprised if you want to opened a can of worms we should let the laws in place
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play out people are been knocking the what are you before it has a chance to work thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm dee reilly i am a native san franciscan junior high school and college short-term rental is let me save my family home my family moved on to higher grounts grounds without short-term rental i wouldn't have this income so presidential don't scare those other people we know they need compliance and regulation if you're going to scare people from registering by sharing more of our information you know big brother is around us every place we have to give this time yesterday they become a qualified website so let things
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develop here he building and not to be rude but some people are calling tension to proposition f and has nothing to do with with the taxes and getting people to comply on this another point to get the people that are really going to pay attention to what this law is about up in arms we need to be able to keep the privacy and not to so we can stay in the city and stay united in short i was aware of one case that went to the appeals that camera they used to approve the airbnb situation went through the sheer united airlines curtains and tell the piece of furniture where everything was
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eyed this will turn people against each other and who knows what kind of violence in our neighborhood please keep this private. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm leslie is a 35 year residents and president of the liability hill neighborhoods association i've been with airbnb about a year i've got a spare bedroom not part of housing stock but it allows me to keep pace with the rising costs of prices i was was first of the 6 hundred and 67 people who hot footed it down to the tax collectors office and is planning commission and rent-controlled units in february when i was supposed to do that it was not easy the forms were o
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trust and not really obvious in terms of adapting a short-term rental to say the business license situation and sfoeshth so that in and of itself has been a problem i guess they're working on it i'm not going to belabor the points i'm all for enforcement i'm all for compliance and it actually many of the people are not registering and i would like to give the city attorney and the short-term rental office to time to work on it after that, the city has to the done anything to address the situation so suddenly a finger is being pointed and an office that is barely months into existence
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should be allot to do hitsz its job and figure out what i where the problems are i'm concerned with the complaint driven enforcement is fine so other departments work i would not want that power given to citizens it leads to vigilantism. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon peter's cohen prosecute from the coincidental housing organization you heard the previous speaker saying she is angry so much lack of experience what you're hearing hearing are from the good person that are law-abiding that is less than 10 percent the listing so clearly the problem is the other 90 percent of hosts that don't want to play by the rules you know the implications not only for hotel tax that might not lost by way of i think the supervisors should think about the tax to mitigate the direct
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impact of the housing we have not that had or had that conversation our losing revenue and this non-compliance having a cow you boy culture it is - i want to tell you about the magnitude of the problem lyft housing how much short-term rentals has been part of that here's numbers in 2014 cartoonish to the rear deck 6 thousand were removed just of the evictions over the course of last 10 years shows 4 thousand and 5 hundred plus rental units relocated and the consensus is where climdz over the last 10 years to have house 9 hundred
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plus what impact hasz has shfrlz been in the housing we need to enforce the rules what is at stake our 3 hundred and 65 housing units are going to be for residents or a playground like paris as struggles we ask you to get this right. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> supervisors ape dale with shared better san francisco thank you for holdings this hearing we hope you holds now since you're the commission of short-term rentals i'm sorry mr. freed left i'm glad mr. guy is here. >> she's back. >> some additional questions they've issues up to 9 hundred business licenses for short-term rentals and yet only 6 hundred -
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67 registrations have been issues so ace understand they'll collect taxes for activities to the legal and business licenses for or that are not legal i don't think so that airbnb is eligible for some sort of privacy airbnb is not the tax pair ax is the conduit so how many people are they collecting and remid-market hotels tax on behalf of and how much are they pca paying and airbnb is claiming they pay hotel taxed until yesterday's they were authorized to do so you can't say take 3 people from the planning department and put them under a banner and say the law will work the law is
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fundamentally flawed you can't get away from the planning department recommendation if so law is going to work airbnb and the other 60 platforms have to have skin in the game and stop listing upcoming registered rentals. >> under the circumstances. >> enforcement all short-term rental special residents are complaint doctrine just like making a - thinking short-term rental not because of how much money from housing making and land use & economic development committee but true personal destiny all practice to having priorities with good manufacture to having destiny 80 percent of chinese people. >> sir any comments on short-term rentals thank you.
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>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon, supervisors aim i'm with the council of communities organizations we want to address a few questions of the privacy concerns that were race a nice web proclamation called ghost tree you can found out who is looking for day if you go into airbnb your data is being shared by double click facebook system and facebook kilogram outlet and google and google tag manager and oils so those of you out there concerned with your privacy betters stay of the airbnb websites we share information on airbnb i looked at a couple of them here one
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ideal bedroom he choose to interact with her gas stoves year around she has an entire apartment and a gardens studio that natalie has in mission terrace with the rates listed year around for that gardens studio matt haney that is not their primary place of residence i looked at a hectic apartment in the sunset that non-in a are renting we live in the flat upstairs but not building in micro hosts we're fully assessable and len in a and alex modern luxury can say a we respect our guests privacy our rental spaces are on a different level not their primary residence and those are the
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types of illegal actives we're hoping will be caught. >> thank you. any other member of the public seeing none, mr. chair that concludes public comment can we continue this to the call of the chair and one quick note i want to congratulate the founders of airbnb who had the distinction of making that time for the first time in the forbidding 4 hundred list 4 hundred wealthiest people in that country their worked out 3.3 employed and from the office of short-term rentals there's no interest in their platform they're okay so congratulations to the new boil nefarious.
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>> thank you so okay first of all, public comment is closed. and second supervisor mar continue to the call of the chair. >> continuation to the call of the >> we'll take that without objection. >> madam clerk, any other business before this commission? >> there's no further business. >>
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>> we came to seven straight about 10 years ago. -- 7th street about 10 years ago. the environment is huge. it is stronger than willpower. surrounding yourself with artists, being in a culture where artists are driving, and where a huge amount of them is a healthy environment. >> you are making it safer. push, push. that is better. when i start thinking, i see it actually -- sometimes, i do not see it, but when i do, it is usually from the inside out. it is like watching something being spawned. you go in, and you begin to
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work, excavate, play with the dancers, and then things began to emerge. you may have a plan that this is what i want to create. here are the ideas i want to play with, but then, you go into the room, and there maybe some fertile ideas that are becoming manifest that are more interesting than the idea you had initially set out to plan. so there has to be this openness for spontaneity. also, a sense that regardless of the deadline, that you have tons of time so the you can keep your creativity alive and not cut it off and just go into old habits. it is a lot like listening. really listening to watch what is going to emerge. i like this thing where you put your foot on his back. let's keep it. were your mind is is how you build your life.
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if you put it in steel or in failure, it works. that works. it is a commitment. for most artists, it is a vacation and a life that they have committed themselves to. there is this notion that artists continue to do their work because of some kind of the external financial support. if that was taken away, artists would still do their art. it is not like there is a prerequisite for these things to happen or i will not do it. how could that be? it is the relationship that you have committed to. it is the vocation. no matter how difficult it gets, you are going to need to produce your art. whether it is a large scale or very small scale. the need to create is going to happen, and you are going to
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have to fulfill it because that is your life. ?oo hi, i'm holly lee. i love cooking and you are watching quick bites. san francisco is a foodie town. we san franciscoans love our food and desserts are no exceptions. there are places that specialize in any and every dessert your heart desires, from hand made ice cream to organic cakes, artisan chocolate and cupcakes galore, the options are endless. anyone out there with a sweet tooth? then i have a great stop for you. i've been searching high and low for some great cookies and the buzz around town that anthony's are
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that's how it all started. >> why not pies and cakes? what do you have against pies and cakes, anthony. >> i have nothing against pies and cakes. however, that was the recommendation. >> you were on the road to be an account apblt. >> actually, an engineer. >> even better. and it led to making cookies. >> in delicious ways. >> delicious ways. >> this is where the magic goes down and we're going to be getting to the truth behind
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cookies and cream. >> this is what is behind cookies and cream. >> where were you when the idea came to your mind. >> i was in my apartment eating ice cream, cookies and cream ice cream. how much fun, cookies and cream cookies. their cookies and cream is not even -- it took a lot of time, a lot of fun. >> a lot of butter. >> a lot, a lot, a lot. but it was one of those things. all right, now behold. you know what that is? >> what is that? >> cookies and cream. >> oh, they are beautiful. >> yes, so we got to get --. >> all right, all right.
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we treat the cookies like wine tasting. i don't ever want anybody to bite into a cookie and not get what they want to get. we're training staff because they can look at the cookie and tell if it's wrong. >> oh, here we go. >> you smell it and then you taste it, clean the plat palate with the milk. >> i could be a professional painter because i know how to do this. >> i can tell that it's a really nice shell, that nice crunch. >> but inside. >> oh, my god. so you are going to -- cheat a little bit. i had to give you a heads up on that. >> what's happening tomorrow? these cookies, there's a lot of love in these cookies. i don't know how else to say it. it
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really just makes me so happy. man, you bake a mean cookie, anthony. >> i know. people really know if they are getting something made with love. >> aww >> you know, you can't fool people. they know if you are taking shortcuts here and there. they can eat something and tell the care that went into it. they get what they expect. >> uh-huh. >> system development and things like that. >> sounds so technical. >> i'm an engineer. >> that's right, that's right. cookies are so good, drove all other thoughts out of my head. thank you for taking time out it talk to us about what you do and the love with which you do it. we appreciate your time here on quick bites.
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i hope you've enjoyed our delicious tale of defendant 93 and dessert. as for me, my search is over. those reviews did not lie. in fact, i'm thinking of one of my very own. some things you just have it experience for yourself. to learn more about anthony's cookies, visit him on the web at if you want to watch some of our other episodes at sfquickbites/ see
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