conferences, one of the reporters said, what can you tell people about what donors to campaigns can expect? in exchange for their donation? i said i tell you what they can expect. nothing, they're making a donation, it's because they believe somebody should be a good public servant. >> but the candidate said this is part of the problem when you have private sector people donating to public sector candidates. >> ultimately. not only overturn the decision of the supreme court, we should go even further and to a pure public financing system. which has been done in other countries. where the only money in the process comes from the public side of the equation. and individuals don't even get to give donations. that's world i'd like to create but until we're there. play by the rules and disclose all donations. and don't make governmental decisions because of what donors want. those are the standards i hold and i'm very adamant about those standards. >> thank you mr. mayor for that explanation and thank you for joining us on "up close." predictions about tuesday?
>> i think a strong hillary clinton victory. whether i like him or not i think trump is going to win and i think he'll win jersey and connecticut because of course he's from this part of the world. but i think hillary -- big victory tuesday and more to come thereafter. and i think she's well on her way to the nomination. by the way right today, she's up 2.5 million votes. >> no -- no open convention like it appears the republicans are going to have? >> i don't think so. if she's ahead today even before new york, she has a clear delegate lead. and a lot of great states for her up ahead. i think she will cleanly be the democratic nominee. >> cleanly in terms of number of delegates, how about being bruised and battered as they go to philadelphia for the convention? >> i believe that a lot of primaries, this is age old question, i believe primaries can actually strengthen a candidate. in this instance, as in '08, remember? hillary and obama went down all the way to the final primary. >> duking it out. >> and then the party unified there was a lot of energy a lot of people have been mobilized. it led to that great obama victory.
i think the primary made her stronger in many ways. '. >> okay. mayor merchandise merchandise thank you. when we come back, we turn to the republican side with donald trump enjoying a commanding lead. what do the other candidates need to do new mexico coming day -- in the coming days? >> what sparked this reaction? >> of course not. it'd be a zero chance of that all across america families are coming back to time warner cable for a whole new experience. that's because we've been working hard to give you better service, and it shows. we came back for internet speeds so fast even the kids are impressed. oh she's impressed. we're catching up on movies and shows on demand
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i approve this message. welcome back to "up close." we now turn to the republicans and donald trump looking to score big in his home state on tuesday. ted cruz in third place in the polls. new yorkers perhaps still stinging from his new york
which brings us to john kasich. the governor of ohio. former congressman. part of the republican takeover of congress in the early 199s and always a conservative but now seems as a more moderate alternative to mr. trump and mr. cruz. josh. >> i'm the only one who beats hillary clinton in the fall. consistently in the polls. trump and cruz get smashed. who can win? who can actually be president? and i mean that should matter as well too. who in other words can give us some sense that our jobs are secure? that our wages will rise and that you are o children can have a -- our children can have a better future. >> a new poll today mirroring something that the bloomberg administration -- the bloomberg news organization put out earlier this week and it shows that cruz and trump with huge negative factors opinion opinion polls and you have a positive. you are going to use that i assume as one of the arguments in the convention. which is going to be likely an open convention.
well, look, i mean the deal is, when you have high negatives, it's kind of hard to win. and that's translating into a significant defeat for both of them. cloudy not only threaten -- the white house but the supreme court. and the united states' senate and state and local races. so look, we got a long way to go. and when you are running positive when you have an ability to attract the blue collar and the independent voters, you know i have blue collar in my dna. where if the wind blew the wrong way, people found themselves out of work. i understand all of this. and it will be my job to convince the delegates that i get them and i understand their concerns. but we also have a positive way in terms of fixing them. >> he is way ahead in delegates and the polls and also in the total votes cast. bull donald trump this week, talked a lot about the system being rigged by the gop. i want to play a soundbyte for you. and then get your reaction. let's listen to donald trump.
tell you what, the rnc, the republican national committee. should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this kind of crap to happen. i can tell you that. they should be ashamed of themselves. >> he says it's a rigged system. your reaction do that governor? >> i don't know what he's talking about. the fact sufficient to get a certain number of delegating to be the nominee. if he falls short all the complaining and whining and threatening doesn't get him the nomination. you know what you need to do. you know how many you need to win. so go win them. if you can't win them you can't win them. that's the way it goes. if i don't win enough guess what? i'm going the say i did my best. but i'm not going to take my bat and ball and go home and sulk and whine. i'm not going that. you have to be a -- to do that. you have to be a man about these things. >> if mr. trump became the nominee and asked you to be vice president, would you? >> of course not. that's not going to happen. you don't need to worry about it. >> what's not?
nomination? >> neither. neither. i have to make a decision like that and i'm not interested in being anybody's running mate. i will not do that. >> do you know there are many your party in the republican party who are surprised and shocked and appalled that the situation has gotten to this -- place with donald trump ahead? you seem to be one of those people and many of them describe themselves as moderate and conservative republicans, the establishment republicans. you are among them. how did it happen? how did it get to place and do it over again would you change the way it started? >> oh. i wouldn't change anything. but i will tell you this. you know, i read a paper yesterday that said that i'm the last best hope of the establishment. it made me laugh because i've never been embraced by the establishment. i'm not against them but i've never been a part of them. you deal with the cards that
positive experience. my life chaz changed as a result of this experience. there's a guy who are that used to live in -- here that used to live in new york, he used to say something very interesting. it ain't over until it's over. peace, yogi berra. >> mature and pragmatist and say while they don't agree with your politics that you are the most moderate candidate in the republican party. who is running for president right now. if the republicans had fought back against the tea party a little bit. would this have been a different situation? that the party finds itself in now? >> oh i don't know. i mean, fought back against the tea party? i was in the tea party, we wanted a balanced budget and to be responsible and extend power back to where we live. i still think that's the
support the whole thing. >> a lot of experts thought the candidates were at their best this week last week when the families were on. i thought your daughters gave you a pretty good time and a rough time about being a bad. play two clips from your daughters and get your reaction. >> just tries to tell jokes that i think he thinks funny. but -- [ laughter ] they're mostly just funny to us because they're dumb. >> how about you? >> he also thinks he's a really good dancer. >> that's right you tell bad jokes you think you're a really good dancer. what were you feeling when you answered the questions and you saw your daughters just expounding there? >> well, you know, to be honest with you, i have so much pride. not just in my -- my daughters but my wife did such a great job. and you know, i love my family to the tips of my toes and the top of my head. and i'm really, really proud of
and i'm proud of how they're -- they conduct themselves every day. they're doing a great job. and of course my wife deserves enormous credit. and i get a little maybe. huh? >> there you go. finally, governor, the primary 48 hours from when this interview airs, what's your message to the people of new york? is this the first time new york has been in play in four decades. as an important primary state. >> yeah. well, look, i mean if you -- mommations make a lot of promise -- politicians make a lot of promises, you have to figure out what they've done. in washington we balanced the budget, when the debt started to go down, the jobs went up. we reformed welfare. you know in ohio we've gone from a basket case to a state that's doing very, very well. and we're not leaving anybody behind and those are the same policies that i would take to washington to help solve the problems of job insecurity and the lack of rising wages and whether the kids can actually get a better america than we
experience and would just love to have people in new york consider me. and vote for me. and lot me have the momentum to move on with a very positive and unifying message. >> governor john kasich of ohio clearly a lodge shot. but clearly, his heart is still in the race. the republicans likely to have in a contested convention meaning trump will not have enough delegates to clinch the nomination before the convention in cleveland in july. trump imzests he will. all the republicans losing in the polls to both clinton and sanders in hypothetical match- ups but november is a very long way away. especially in politics, trump and cruz like kasich are running hard. they were in new york this past week and they made themselves heard. >> something incredible is happening all across the country. all across the state of new york and all across this nation. people are waking up. >> a lot of people everywhere we go, you know what it's called? make america great again. that's what we want. that's what we're going to be doing.
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welcome back to "up close," we have doug muzzio professor at cuny. what an interesting development. new york now the center of the political world for the first time really in decades. >> yeah, it's a must win primary for trump. if he's going to get 1237. and it's important for hillary because it will stem the momentum of sanders. and propel her i think to the nomination. >> sanders does have the big mojo going. he won eight out of the last nine primaries and caucuses and clinton had the lead in the polls. not just a win but a resounding win right? >> ten points is a resounding win. sanders can't finish second.
candidate. in states that count. >> right. >> so big win for hillary. >> you don't see an open convention for the democrats. >> no. no. and out of the delegates that remain he's got to win 69% of them. virtually impossible. >> and that's for the republicans, it's a lot closer for trump to get to that magic 1237. >> yeah. and people saying between 1150 and who knows? so -- >> for delegates the number of delegates. >> for delegates and that means the convention could be a disaster, it could be zoo. >> you know trump talked about it kind of appallingly but maybe jokingly but not really. he says if he doesn't get it there's going to be violence in the streets but that's not an outrageous possibility. >> no. it could be the closest thing to chicago in 1968. >> when in fact there were demonstrations not just because
because gene mccarthy got shoved out. >> humphrey got the nomination to run in the primary. >> john kasich has won one state. what is he hoping to do here? >> become vice president. >> i asked him that question and he said absolutely not. >> well, i don't see a -- a path to victory for kasich. >> the there's no delegate -- if there's no delegate, none of the delegates for either cruz or thump. in cleveland in july, kasich is poised to be the sort of quote unquote moderate candidate. >> yeah but then trump is poised to vote for a third party. >> and then? >> and then, it's a free for all. >> all the -- the latest polls show that either trump and obviously the hypothetical months if november, but clinton and sanders, both of them, beating tall other candidates. >> yep. and sanders beating trump slightly more than hillary does. >> right. so what does that say? >> well, it says hello
>> and any way around that do you think? that's where this is headed. >> it looks like it's inevitable. >> so what's that mean? any hurting -- does clinton go into the philadelphia convention bruised and battered? or like bill de blasio said, stronger both? >> it's like boxing, you want a good sparring partner and it toughens you up. so yes, it hurts because the specific charges, but all in all, i think it's -- an advantage to have a good primary. >> okay predictions for tuesday very briefly. >> trump in a blowout. and hillary between -- 10, 13 points. and it could tighten. but it's -- it looks like in that range. >> then on to pennsylvania. >> ooh. see pennsylvania is really strange because they have i
bound by the vote and have 54 uncommitted delegates. so that could go either way. half of them said that they would vote for the candidate that won their district. trump's got to know the rules. >> we got to get past new york first. doug muzzio thank you for joining us this morning. >> my pleasure. with so many people headed
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new york has would have been the most -- one of the most onerous rolls in terms of registration and it -- rules in terms of registration and it required us to register almost close to a year ago and we didn't do is that. >> it was our first kind of foray into politics and we didn't realize how the whole system worked. >> ky imagine the trump kids two of them at least not voting for their father on tuesday's primary election? because they're not registered republicans. this is a complicated system. not sure it's onerous, like she said but new york voter registration process we're talking about. so we thought we'd have and the man who -- and the man who come tuesday will be busy. michael ryan is the executive director of the new york city board of elections, she said it's onerous system. is it onerous system? >> well, there's competing sets of rules. if you're bread -- >> yes right? >> a little bit. if you're a brand new voter to the system. you had until march the 25th to
vote in the april 19th primary. >> brand new. >> brand new. >> okay. >> if you were previously registered to a party, or unify ailuated as -- affiliated as was the case, you had until october the 9th to switch your party registration. so it's -- it a little bit confusing to folks. but the rules have been the rules for a quite a long time. >> but the october 9th date is the one that is the sort of big bug aboo here. >> that's a floating date. actually 25 days backwards from the general. so last november the general election was november 3rd. this coming november, the general election will be on november 8th. so since the election date floats, the cutoff date also floats with it. >> right. but more specifically to miss trump's suggestion, wasn't a year ago, but did that -- they were not aware of it. a lot of people are not aware of it. you are aware of it and i'm aware of it. >> yes. >> but a lot of people aren't
here where new york before for decades hasn't really mattered. so it didn't matter. it does of course. but it didn't really matter for the outcome of the presidential election. >> not gotten quite the attention it's getting this go around. >> here's the question for you, what's going to happen come tuesday? there's a lot of buzz out there that a lot of sanders' supporters in particular, who are independents and have not registered in a primary only election in new york, are going to go to the voting booths and say okay i'm here. and -- they haven't been registered and it's going to be a little chaotic and you're worried about that. >> yes, what adds to the confusion is people look at the tv and they see what's going on in other jurisdictions and they assume the rules are the same across the board. state. so new york is a closed primary sate. which means -- state. which means only registered democrats can vote for the democratic choices. and only registered republicans choices.
just i don't know the executive director of the new york city board of election which is you are and you are trying to prepare your workers for an onslaught of people who want to vote and aren't going to be registered. is there any way for them to vote? >> well, the folks that aren't registered if they come and they insist on voting, we will provide them with an affidavit ballot. that affidavit will state that they are a member of the party that they wish to vote in. if we after the election is involve and we check the records, if they're not registered to that particular party, their vote will not count and they will get a notice theying is that -- saying that your vote didn't count. and for the reasons why. >> statewide there's three million independents in new york state. that could swing on election some way right? >> it could but we don't count the ballots on election day. they are separated between the valids, so for example, if you registered and for some reason the name wasn't in the book as happens sometimes, but you were in fact a registered republican or democrat, your vote will
but if you don't belong to either one of those parties, your vote will not be counted and you'll be notified it didn't count. >> there are people on the street you heard it. say it's going to be kind of chaotic. >> it? >> we're expecting first of all there's five folks still in the contests. three of them have varying degrees of ties to new york city. which in and of itself is unique. we want folks that are eligible to vote to come out to vote. but everybody else stay home. and you'll have three more potential opportunities to vote in the remainder of the year. in june for another primary in september for a primary, and of
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