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>> chris: i'm chris wallace. congressional republicans are demanding answers from attorney general eric horaled about a sting that went wrong. the "operation fast and furious" in the cross hairs of investigators and what is the fall for the obama administration? we'll ask the head of the oversite committee darrell issa. and then chris christie and sarah palin made a pass on the presidential run. we'll speak with a contender looking to fill the void. former senator rick santorum and the occupy -- wall street spread
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be sold illoolly and they were going to try to track them to catch drug trafficers and hundreds of them ended up in the drug cartel and two of them in the murder scene of the u.s. border agent. now in may, you had a famous exchange with attorney general eric holder. >> when did you first know about the program called "operation fast and furious", to the best of your knowledge what date? >> i am not sure about the exact date. i heard about fars "operation fast and furious" over the last few weeks. >> chris: i understand you are issuing new subpoena to the attorney general. why? >> guest: to the taper general. why are they denying knowing something that they were briefed on. understand we didn't start off going after the attorney general or lenny brower or anyone else
in justice. we started off knowing that briantery was dead. >> chris: the border patrol agent. >> guest: and a lot of weapons were let to walk. we were told by the justice system that we never let weapons walk. now we have literally e-mails in which they are concerned about so many walking and you said something and i don't mean to correct you. but to expand. the whole program is not tracking them until they were found in the scene of crimes. they didn't just allow. they facilitated over 700 weapons. >> chris: what are your subpoenas about? >> guest: we want to know what and when they knew it. and what level of the authorization did it come. it was a joint operation in which dea knew more than atf.
>> chris: atf. alcohol, tobacco and fire arms. >> guest: these are all parts of the department of justice and we are beginning to see, not talking about eric holder, but the people in the top of justice were well briefed and commappeded and controlled the funding of this program. and any law enforcement person asked under oath comes back and said this is not the right way to do it. when did they know it was not the right way -- >> chris: are you subpoenas the attorney general to do it? >> guest: the judicial they have invited them to clear the record. now the question is, what did he know and how is he explaining why he gave that answer. >> chris: the attorney general sent you a letter friday afternoon and i want to go
through those push back. he acknowledged several memos, you can see them, on these dates were sent to his office 10 months earlier and not the few weeks before he testified in may of 2011. he said and i want to put up the comment. i do not and cannot read them cover to cover and no issues concerning "operation fast and furious" were brought to my attention because the information in the reports didn't suggest a problem. i didn't know about the program and i certainly didn't know guns were walking. >> guest: i will take him at his word but let's go back. he answered that he didn't know about it until two weeks earlier. that is disingenious on its face. he had to know when briantery was killed and everyone realized these were "operation fast and furious" weapons, he had to know something serious had happened
and that is months before he said he knew. if we assume he didn't know, the question is he competent. a border agent is murdered and this program went off of the rails. why didn't he know. that is a important question. if lanny brewer knew why didn't eric holder. >> chris: one of the top aides. >> guest: he is involved and works in the same office. >> chris: holder points out that top officials briefed you in april of 2010 around the time he was first hearing of all of this. he writes and let's put it up. i am aware that chairman issa said he was not briefed on the unacceptable details of "operation fast and furious". in other words the fact they were letting the guns walked. if it is true, how do you know he was also not told?
>> guest: the interesting thing he is quoting a story that he plant shopped around to the newspaper. but having said that i will answer it. we were looking into the drug problems and we asked for a briefing and we got one including kenneth nelson. >> chris: of atf? >> guest: he knew about the program but not all of the other things that he ultimately red in a sealed wire tap. and when he read the wire tap and how much he understood this was letting bad gups go to the drug cartel, he became sick to his stomach. >> chris: you are saying you were not told about "operation fast and furious" and the gun walking and so how do you know he wasn't told? >> guest: it was concealed from us by the justice department. they were not allowed to know what kenneth nelson knew and made him sick to his stomach. atf is told that guns are not
getting to the bad guys. the whistle-blower came forward, of course, guns are getting to the bad guys. this investigation is not about an operation that was posed to trace guns. this is about justice department knowing and this is where the american people have a right to know more, knowing that these guns were deliberately intended to end up in the hands of the drug cartels without traceability except if you find a gun in the scene of the crime. that is the reason it is felony and stupid. and i use the word felony deliberately program. it should be criminal to let criminals have deadly weapons. >> chris: i have to point out the bush administration had operation wide-receiver that he said let guns walk? >> guest: eric holder came in wanting to indict people from that administration. i think his standard of the other administration did it, too is not so good.
but what we discover from wide-receiver and we have subpoenas for those and those documents are delivered. very few weapons and well traced and overhead and observation and so on. if you let a weapon start to move, you trace it at every step. this is one where they let the weapons go and never looked until they showed up in the scene of briantery's murder. 92 some are calling for a special prosecutor to look on holder involvement and some called on holder to resign, do you join either of those? >> guest: the president seems to have full confidence in eric holder and something i don't share. when it comes to a special prosecutor eric holder cannot investigate himself. congress is on the way of investigating this operation to find out what went wrong and who knew it and what we have to do in the future to make sure it
cannot happen again. if there is a special prosecutor to look at the narrow issue of top officials and beat political appointees, that is a separate investigation. senator grassly has to get to the bottom of this. and the american people and people in mexico don't trust their government right now. >> chris: turning to the other scandal. solyndra. obama administration had a lot of e-mails dumped. >> guest: i don't know what is about fridays. >> chris: all administrations do it. what is your take away from the document dump? >> guest: they are trying to bury it into the weekend and just as the document dump a week earlier gave us the eric horaled situation, what we are finding it is not just solyndra but a pattern of these sorts of investments. in the last day that the law was there 4.75 billion was thrown
into loans and one of the questions we have for second chu. why that last day you had everything you needed and you didn't have it over a period of time before. the american people have a right to know on the rare occasions in which their money is used in private organizations and take bets on captitalism. it is well thought out. solyndra is a story of politicall interference and picking winners and losers and it is salacious and a lot of people were giving to president obama's campaign. it is also a question of why are we doing this and if a loan goes bad why is it coming in? are they coming in for political purposes to cover up which is in the case of solyndra they were going bankrupt last time they
were getting money. >> chris: barack obama wanted to support clean energiness and there was a eagerness and part of the stimulus to support green clean energy programs, some would say a rush to judgment to put the money out there without doing due diligence. question, do you have evidence of corruption that solyndra got a half billion dollar federal loann guarantee because of political connections. >> guest: if i can explain why the problem gets bad. it is not thal - the original loan. when they got in trouble and we went in and subordinated i loan and put other private creditors in better position. 92 they would get paid back bankruptcy. >> guest: that's where the question happens. why did we breach the protocol and do something that was
strictly prohibited. i have disagreements with the president on policis and particularly what he calls green energy. if a transit bus driver is trained to drive a green bus they call it a green job. i have problems with what they call green, but at the same time once the decision was made. my committee that looks at a lot of broader issue, i am lookking was process followed. the american people have a right to guarantee if the rule of law was done proper this is a problem and this is where we are going to look for political interference. you have to ask why we put the government at a disadvantage. >> chris: you are saying you are not investigating the investigation of solyndra getting the loan and a fundraiser toward obama and he
was an investor in solyndra. you are looking at the tail end of trying to shore up the company and investors at the expense of the taxpayers. >> guest: the american people will judge the overall policy. this was a $500 mill billion earmark by political appointeys. something you hear about from congress but not always from the president. my committee jurisdiction and energy -- my jurisdiction is figuring out how to not let it happen again. >> chris: i only have a minute left. government shouldn't playy venteur capitalist and picking winners or losers. you sent several letters to the federal energy department asking for federal loan guarantees for companies in your state. didn't you do the same thing that they are doing? >> guest: here's the difference.
every member of congress. they almost wave them saying i have somebody in my district that you should look at. i difference for exiting pot of money for a program i voted against and having the ability to pick winners or losers. >> chris: you are saying apterra. federal energy department give them a federal loann guarantee? >> guest: not a loan guarantee. their loan was never processed. >> chris: that doesn't mean you were successful but you tried? >> guest: they have a loann application and give them a yes or no that. is a big difference. these people spent money processing and never heard. in the case of solyndra, they contributed heavilyy to barack obama and they got a loan quecklyy . we are getting a lot of
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palin deciding to sit out the race. which cand date is in the best spot to challenge the frontt runners. we continue our interviews with someone looking to be that candidate from rick santorum who comes to us from dallas. you spent 60 days this year in iowa and that is double what any other candidate has spent and the conventional wisdom is that if anyone is going to pull a huckabee to win the iowa caucuses it is you? >> guest: the strategy is to talk to the people of iowa. i have been to 70 to of the 99 counties and 180 town hall type meetings and we are talking to activist. we are not hitting huge crowds but are hitting the people who are the engine of the iowa caucuss and they are talking and
have influence in their community and the fact that i have been in the community and being in the small counties tharks pays a lot of dividends and obviously our plan is not to peak in june or july but now in january, when the votes were counted; you >> chris: you raised 582,000 by way of comparison, herman cain raised over two million. the quarter that ended in the end of september. there is a report of fund raising numbers this week. what is your number going to be? >> guest: it is more. we are cash positive and running a grass roots campaign. i have no consultants and i don't have anybody telling me what to think and how to think it. we are running a grass roots campaign for president. we are cash positive and make our pay roll and we are building
our last staff, we raised more money than the previous two and half months. we are on an update as a result of the fox news debate and cnn debate and i shared my ideas and get into discussions with the recollect candidates and the people are responding well. we are gaining traction just at the right time. >> chris: another problem besides money and sounds like it is tight for the rest of the year. >> guest: we have enough money to do what we need to do, chris. if you have a lot of consultants you need a lot of money. i don't. i am the candidate that is not scripted and messaged by a group of folks who think reading polls. >> chris: if i can get to one of the other issues. 2012 primary calendar and it is moved up a month. instead of starting in early
february which is the republican party's plan. iowa and new hampshire are moving to just after new years and possibly the last week of december. christmas in des moines. you accuse mitt romney of trying to bully the early states in order to rig the calendar. why is this mitt romney's fault? >> guest: there were reports that romney people were trying to bully nevada to force iowa and new hampshire in the early part of the yearr. governor romney is not doing well in iowa and put all of his eggs in the new hampshire basket and tryying to force iowa until late this year is trying to marginalize iowa in the primary and their impact on the system in order to put more weight on new hampshire it is a strategy that he's pursue if you are not
doing well in the first primary state minimalize it. and we believe we can do well in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina which we have spent a lot of time in. >> chris: it looks and may be silly to talk this way. there are two tickets in the republican primary race. one mitt romney and the other for the more conservative alternative to mitt romney and that is the ticket that you are looking to punch. we'll go through the rivals for that alternative pot and why you deserve consideration and votes. governor rick perry has a decade of executive experience and a strong record as a job creator, why should a conservative pick you over rick perry? >> guest: i think rick perry has a lot of questions to answer about the record in texas. we have seen in the debates, the more people find out his record on immigration and benefits to
illegals in this country which he continues to support and his record on using executive authority to trump parental rights, these are not conservative things. look at my record, yes, i don't have experience as a government. i have national security experience and if you are lookking at the president, one thing he needs to have the reall authority under the constitution is in national security. and my record is strongg and there is no one who knows more and understands the problems in the middle east and a stronger friend of israel than i have been and the track record on the national security side with the experience on the armed services committee, i have the record that compares favorably with rick perry. 92 let me run throughh them quickly with you. herman cain, nonpolitician which is an asset these days and businessman and he is opposed to anyone else has a clear income
plann 999? >> guest: he is a nonpolitician because he lost the race. i mean, a nonpolitician because i failed is not the compelling case to make when you want to win your first race as president of the united states against an incumbent president. political experience, coming from pennsylvania and winning two state wide elections in one of those years where president bush lostt it by five and i won by six. i jab at herman saying a 0, 0, 0 plan. zero is better than 9 and focused on the area of the economy that voters are concerned about and that is the manufacturing sector of the economy. we eliminate corporate tax from manufacturers and eliminate all of the regulation and repeal them when it comes to the businesses that the obama administration put in place that
cost over $100 million. and two tril yob over seas that manufacturers have profits and allow them to bring it back and grow that sector of the economy. >> chris: senator, do you think mormonism is a cult? >> guest: no, i on don't. 92 you think mitt romney is a true christian? >> guest: mitt romney is a true christian. i believe he said christian. i am not an expert on mormonism. every mormon i know is a good and decent person and great moral values and by and large with the exception of harry reedd reed is consistent with the values i share and that's what they should be judged on. >> chris: in the couple of minutes left one last issue. i want to discuss the last fox debate in which a gay soldier
got up in the debate and asked as president you would reinstate don't ask, don't tell. here's what you said to him. >> any type of sexual activity has no place in the military and the fact that they are including it as a provision in the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege in removing don't ask, don't tells try to inject social policy in the military. >> chris: senator, you say sexual activity has no place in the military. heterosexualls have been open heterosexual for centuries in the military without problems and you talk about gays, they shouldn't be given special privilege. all of the don't ask, don't tell and the repeal of it said they are given the same rights as
they have had forever. >> guest: the sexual activity with people in close quarters and happen to be the same sex is different than having the discussion and open about your sexual activity and you are not in that same situation. you are talking about injecting. >> chris: wait a minute. you are saying homosexual gay soldiers are going to sit there and go after the male counter parts. >> guest: i didn't suggest that. >> chris: you said close activity >> guest: they are in close quarters and shower and whole kinds of things that they are involved in living in a barracks and out in the field, those are issues that again, some people, you are talking about the ability for people to have that unit of cohession and work together in a efficient fighting way and also by the way, the affect on retention and recruitment of people to live in
that environmentt. yes, there are people who feel uncomfortable and could hurt our ability to retain and recruitt and put the best fighting force in place. 92 senator if i may follow up and we are running out of the time. you say don't inject social policy in the military. theirr job is to fight and defend. the army is not a socio lodgical labratory and in time of war and moral and ultimate defeat. does that sound about right, sir? >> guest: roughly yes. that is a quote fromm colonel eugene householder in 1941 arguing against racial integration in the military upon. depest guest i heard similar quotes it is very accident very
different. we are talking about people who are simply different because of the color of the skin and not because of activities that would cause problemms for people living in those close quarters. >> chris: senator, i read colonel householders commentary and everything you said. living in close proxxity and sharing bunks and showers, he used the same arguments that you use to argue against racial integration in the military in the 1940s? >> guest: i understand that and i know the whole gay community is trying to make it a civil rightts act it is not the same. you are black by the color of your skin. you are not homosexuall necessarily by the color of your skin. or by a variety. >> chris: it is a fact that your biology.
it is one thing that if somebody is coming on to somebody in a room. but the fact that a homosexuall. they are all volunteers and defending our country? >> guest: they are volunteers and they don't have to joinn in a place where they don't feel comfort serving with people of that issue. that is a problem, chris and the idea that it is the equivalent and being black and being gay is the same is simply not true. there are all sorts of studies out there that suggest the contrary and people who were depay and lived a gay life style and aren't anymore. i don't think that is the case with anybody that is black. it is not the same and people are trying to make it the same. it is not. it is a behaviorial issue as opposed to a skin issue and that makes a difference when comes serving in the military >> chris: safe travels in the campaign, sir.
wall street protestors explaining why they spent weeks camped out in lower manhattan and now in cities in the country. brit hume senior politicalan lift, a.b. stoddard of the ab newspaper. bill kristol of the weekly standard and juan williams fox news analyst. brit, the number of protestors is maul but grow spreading. numbers are still small in cities around the country and as labor unions join in what do you make of occupy wall street? >> it is hard to know yet. it is risky for politicians to aline themselves closely with the movement. although it has manage in common with the movement and a political force in the sense that both groupps object to the bail outs, but i think that it is a different type of demonstration that we are
seeing. this group for example off shoots of the occupy wall street was here in washington yesterday and depot in a scuffle with the authorities and they had to shut the place down. that is the kind of thing that most americans take a dim view of. there is disruption and sanitation issues in new york. and this is the kind of thing that turns ordinary voters off. and perilous for democrats to align themselves with this movement. >> chris: we'll get in the politics in a moment, but as you see the demitration and getting a lot of coverage, it is an interesting development and we are talking about it. what do you make of it and what is going on here? >> i think it is a protest era has returned and as we continue in a troubled economy that doesn't look like it is going to
improve quickly . our government hopefully is going to attack the debt crisis head on. and see cuts to spending and services and see more services. i anticipate it will grow. i do agree though i don't see it going anywhere. they don't have a list of demands or a leader. the tea party moved the republican party way to the right and democrat to the right. i don't see occupy wall street movement changing mines in corporate board rooms and congressional meetings. >> chris: talk about the reaction in washington which has been interesting. the president is walking on a tight rope and saying he refrained from supporting it. and the eric canter called them
mobs. let's watch. c>> believe it or not. some in this town have actually condoned the pitting of americans against americans. >> chris: what do you think of how the two parties are playing this? >> the republicans should be quiet. last i looked. obama hated the current administration are wall street and frank is a dombrowski congressman and wall street is represented by gerald maddler. republican concerns should step it out and let them fight it out. >> they want their own tea party. they need it. >> what was told a year ago that the tea party was the worst thing that could have happened to the republican party and extremist and now they realize that tea party strengthens
conservism and what did the tea party do actually in 2009 and 10? they defeated a bunch of republicans in primaries. and people who didn't win in the general, they had electorial clout and if i were in occupy wall street, they need to defeat the senator in new york or lower manhattan. >> chris: challenge the party to the left. >> otherwise it is just talk. they need an electtorial stratt strat. 92 juan how do you compare the movement to the tea party and could it be that the tea party is a big energizing and mobilizing citizens grass roots movement and how could this benefit the democrats. >> it is an enthusiasm gap and
far left for the first time since the obama of 08 organize putting themselves out and getting the media coverage. you know something is wrongg and people on the left who are finally coming together. they are far more organic than the direct mail groups that were the initial creators of the tea party. this is going to continue with tremendous benefit of president obama and the democrats that it comes in the start of the election year. they were treating obama like a rock star and they are out there on their own and they are changing the conversation. inted of republicans pushing obama to the right. you have groups that are discontected with president and pushing him to the left. >> chris: they don't like president obama over much. he over saw the ball out and they have not put financial people in jail.
they are not reall happy as bill suggest with obama and the democrats. >> it is hard for me to see how it helps the democrats. it represents the far leftt. that commands only a tiny fraction of suspect in the country. what is important about the tea party. on issues that they were complaining about the spending and bail outs. that was issues that americans voted with. and tea party came in and significant public support. i don't think the message from the left and characters associated with the movement so far are likely to stimulate support from the independents. 92 we have to take a break and when we come back, the economy stalls and president obama pushes the jobs plan and is machine in congress listening.
>> i don't think they were better off than four years ago and they were not better off before leman collapsed and the extraordinary recession that we are going through. >> chris: president obama with a startling administration if he had to answer the ronald reagan question of things improved on his watch it would be no. start with numbers of last month. a net of the 300,000 jobs. but the unemployment rate is unchanged. most economist say at least we are not sliding back in the recession. >> it is not in frefall. it is not enough to keep up with the population growth. it is not exactly good news for president obama who pivoted to
the administration and i am the underdog message. and if republicans don't help him, it will go over the cliff. and the problem for him in addressing the jobs, and the unemployment and unchanged at 9.1 and that will dog him in next fall democrats are not willing to push this. they are not rallying around the job's plan as much as he said every day. and they are up for reelection and don't want it to come up for a vote. >> we'll talk about that. >> chris: the president held a news conference and he continued to push for the job's plan and house speaker boehner fired back. >> if congress does something i can't run gance a do nog congress.
congress does nothing it is not a matter of me running against them. the american people will run them out of town. >> nothing disappointed me more than what happened over the last five weeks. watching the president of the united states give up on governing and leading and spend full-time campaigning. >> chris: where does the obama plan stand now and is ab right that the issue against republicans is the fact so many senate democrats are not on board. >> it is not a jobs plan. it is it a tax hike plan and a spending plan and some temporary tax cuts. that's the part that the president are touting. they are temporary. they don't make a difference. republicans run little risk. you want to increase the deficit. and it is a big tax increase on small business and those who have money to invest.
republicans should probably be more proactive in proposing their longger term remedy. and they lay them in one place. and the republicans need to be aggressive critics of the obama administration's management of the economy and this will be over taken when the super committee report in november. this is all-staring and have legislative action is in november and december. >> chris: juan, the president is pushing a more populas line and more democrats say he doesn't fit because he comes off as a cool professor. and republicans are saying look at other demdeps, president dukasis and president kerry. is that more populas and republicans say class warfare, is this a good strategy for him.
>> it is a excellent strategy. look at the absolute numbers. abc washington post poll has 52 percent of the americans want the president's job bill passed. 52 percent. and when we ask people about class warfare which is what you hear fromrepublicans. no, it is a heal bringing the country together. a fox poll 56%. and so in terms of numbers strategiically there is real discontent and the sense that wall street got the bail out and they will have big christmas bonus that is real. you look at the job's bill. people say no chance it will be passed. but democrats are saying they should tax the millionaires . it is a 5.6% tax. overwhelming support among the american people. >> i think you need to step back from the immediate skirmish over
the jobs bill that is going no where and see what the president is getting people to do. yeah, mr. president we know you are jobless and fixing the economy and we know you tried with a stim tim bill that didn't work and we didn't like the composition anyway . mr.c president we know you turned your attention away fromm the economy and passed a health care reform bill. we'll forgive you because you proposed a stimulus bill that is half the size of one that worked and you are depending on congress to pass it if it doesn' pass we'll not hold you responsible. we'll blame the congress, and one-half of which your party controls. my few of - view of that. if that passes everything i know about politics is wrong. >> the republicans would be well
served to back away from the wall street protest and associate. republicans, back away from criticizing the protest and associate themselves with the frustration over unemployment and on the jobs bill come up with a plan and pass it now. and there is too much answering back to the president. and be more proactive on the jobs. they came home after the debt ceiling debate and came back to talk about grass roots employment agenda and they haven't. they are caught up in the sparring again and they are not looking like they are focused on jobs and i think they should be. we have 30 seconds left. i want to go back to the president's admission that we are not better off than four years ago. how does he run for reelectionn when he admitted that particularly if his opponent is main stream as mitt romney.
>> the american people are not stupid and you realize we are trying aggressively and money is spent. and the stimulus is not popular. but it has lowered unemployment and putting more measures in place . congress said no. and i am saying to you yes. >> chris: veryy well stated and gong did not go off. i will see you next week and don't forget to check out panel's plus on the website on fox news.com. and up next. the power player of the week. [ female announcer ] the road is not exactly a place of intelligence. ♪ across the nation over 100,000 miles of highways and bridges are in disrepair. add to that, countless distractions every mile... ♪ ...millions of ill-equipped vehicles...
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c>> chris: too often we hold upal athletes as role models. here's the power player of the week. exciting time and a new baby boy we are proud of. 92 reed doughty was dreeted by the washington red skins and his wife katy was about to have their first child. but micah when he was born something was wrong. he had end stage deceed . there wasa lot of questions.
>> chris: micah had almost total kidney care and put on powerful drugs and reeds became an important part of the redskins . how serious to balance the issues with your little boy and you are in the most competitive environment in the world. >> our faith in got and that gave them confidence of what was going on. >> chris: micah was big enough to have a kidney electronics plant. it is difficult to be in the preoperating room. we'll get back to micah in a moment and even though his kidney disease was not preventible. his dad took on the cause. i i the numbers are staggering.
26 million americans suffer from chronic kidney disease and more than 80,000, are waiting for a transplate. you are at risk. >> reed's message is to use his standing as profootball player. >> i am hoping they will catch the eye and know that name and oh, my dad had diabetes and maybe i need to get tested. 92 and that brings us back to little micah. the kidney transplant was a success. he is healthy and happy. >> he rides his scooters and takes spills and that is the most exciting thing. >> chris: you can see he likes to go down snowy hills with big bumps . they are doing well. micah has two little brothers
and reed has settled in as a valued team leader on the redskins. >> as you look back on the five years, do you think of the hurdles you had to over come or think how luck you you are. >> both. we are doing what i love to do and go through the anniversary. >> chris: little micah is not out of the woods yet. kidney transplants can last months to years . his dad is confident with medical advances and medical care micah will live a long life. that's it for today. have a great week. we'll see you on next "fox news sunday". axmxowtooo