tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC April 29, 2015 12:36am-1:38am EDT
[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- john cleese from "bloodline", actress linda cardelinni former congressman and author barney franks featuring the 8g band with fred armisen and jack antonoff of bleachers ♪ [ cheers and applause ] and now, here he is, seth meyers! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening, everybody. this is "late night." how are we doing tonight? oh, that was wonderful to hear.
that is wonderful. do you guys like hearing cable news polls as much as i do? [ light laughter ] because we're going to open with a joke about one of them. [ laughter ] a new poll by fox news found that 51% of voters are in favor of legalizing marijuana. yeah. [ cheers ] and fox news was very surprised to find that much support for something with a spanish name. [ laughter ] marijuana? marijuana. you guys, hillary clinton has temporarily changed her campaign logo to rainbow colors in support of marriage equality. that's really nice. [ cheers and applause ] it's lovely. of course, her idea of marriage equality is both of you should get to be president.
[ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] i don't know if that's feasible for everybody. while covering the earthquake in the nepal this week, cnn correspondent sanjay gupta helped medical personnel perform brain surgery. he helped them perform brain surgery. gupta said he was excited to work with brains again after being at cnn for so long. [ laughter and applause ] oh. forgot what those looked like. that's how you do it right? [ laughter ] are you all better? he's all better. according to the star magazine, leonardo dicaprio is hooked on the dating app tinder. [ laughter ] while according to some of his dates, that guy was definitely not leonardo dicaprio. [ laughter ] well -- i was in "titanic," "basketball diaries." it's totally me. [ laughter ]
scientists have discovered -- this is fascinating to me, scientists have discovered that tyrannosaurus rex may have had a vegetarian cousin. man, it must suck to have a vegetarian in the family when your arms are too short to cover your ears. [ laughter ] that's great. so you had a good kale salad for lunch? that's awesome. no, i didn't know quinoa had a lot of protein. [ applause ] tofu? you can do that with tofu? that's really cool. [ laughter ] oh, i wish i was extinct. [ laughter ] bud light is facing criticism for its new tag line, the perfect beer -- this is true, the perfect beer to remove "no" from you vocabulary for the night. [ audience groans ] although it's still better than the original tag line, "the bill cosby of beers." [ audience groans ] [ laughter ]
nominations for the tony awards came out today. and helen mirren was nominated for her role in "the audience. " she played the woman who unwrapped hard candy midway through the second act. the most valuable member of "the audience." [ applause ] starbucks has a new s'mores cappuccino, which became available today. it's perfect for those people looking to gain s'more weight. [ laughter ] just a little s'more. [ cheers and applause ] you're not even a coffee fan. you just want to be reminded of food while getting caffeine. and finally, a new dating website called open minded is promising to pair up people seeking open relationships. just go to the website and you can browse profiles from over 100,000 men and three women. [ laughter ]
ladies and gentlemen, this is the 8g band. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: all right, everybody. hello, 8g band. so great to have you here and everybody give it up. jack antonoff is with us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] jack antonoff of one of my favorite bands, bleachers. this is your fifth appearance on the show. you been on the show five times, it's amazing. >> that's so great. >> seth: that's so great. and i believe you've accomplished the rarest hat trick. you're the first person accomplish the hat trick. you've been a guest on a show. you have performed music on the show, and now you're sitting in with the band. that is just amazing. that's a hat trick. >> that's awesome. [ cheers and applause ] is five a record of any kind? >> seth: five is probably a record. i think fred has been here for seven shows. [ laughter ] so you're right behind him. everybody check out bleachers
new single, "like a river runs" it's out now. and this summer, you guys are co-headlining with charlie xcx. that's very exciting. >> yeah, i love her, i can't wait. >> seth: that'll be great. i think she's been on the show twice. >> not five. >> seth: not five. you've got a healthy lead over charlie xcx. >> working on fred. >> seth: okay good. fred, how are you? >> fred: good, how are you? >> seth: it's so great to have you here. it's been such a -- i missed you when you're gone and i'm so, so happy you're back. my favorite thing about having you back is i can talk about all the incredible things you've been doing while you're gone. you were in rome. you were working on "zoolander 2" in rome. that's amazing. i've seen photos of your character. i know i can't talk about it. it's top secret. because you played captain america. [ laughter ] you play captain america the first half and then you play han solo. but no, you -- it looks amazing. you were shooting this show on ifc. you were shooting in iceland. all this incredible stuff. i love telling you -- i have to say your
accomplishments, the things you're actually accomplishing are so interesting to me, but i sometimes worry that you then make up other things, i don't know, because you feel like your own accomplishments aren't enough. and that makes me really sad, because who you are and what you've done is so impressive to anyone that you wouldn't have to make up a single thing. you know what i'm saying? [ laughter ] but -- but anyways i heard you backstage, is this true? you invented a new musical instrument? >> fred: i did. >> seth: you did? [ laughter ] 'cause if you didn't, that's fire too. but if you did, you know, if you did what is it? >> i did. it's an instrument where i get people all over the world to play, like, if you have dentures, at the same time. so it's kind of one instrument. and it's called the denturon. [ laughter ] and so online, we just sync it up so everyone plays them at the same time. you take them out and you just sort of like, they're on springs and you just hit them at the same time. [ laughter ] >> seth: so it's people just hitting their dentures with a mallet? >> yes. >> seth: gotcha. >> yeah.
>> seth: at the exact same time, all the dentures of the world, people do it at once. >> yes, and so i would conduct it. on three, lets all do it at the same time and then they all hit it. and that's the instrument. >> seth: wow. >> yeah. >> seth: and so it's not, like, it's not an instrument i can ever go see in concert, really. >> fred: well, that's what i wanted to tell you about. [ laughter ] this summer in central park, i'm gonna set up some speakers. june 1st, come on out. right there in that middle field. you know that field? >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> i'm gonna set up some speakers, and just come on out and we're gonna listen to a concert of it. >> seth: great. so none of the dentures will actually be there. because these are speakers hooked up to the dentures of the world. >> fred: yes. >> seth: that's great. do you have a name for the concert? >> fred: yes. fred armisen's fantastical denture hum. and please come out for it. it's 200 bucks to get in. [ laughter ] >> seth: how much? >> fred: 200 bucks. >> seth: $200 to get in? >> fred: yes, but you're there for a long time. so you get your moneys worth. >> seth: how long is the concert? >> fred: it's 24 hours.
[ laughter ] >> seth: oh, that doesn't -- i'll maybe be there, but it's so wonderful to have you. give it up for fred armisen, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] such an exciting show tonight, you guys. john cleese is with us this evening. [ cheers and applause ] the legend john cleese. his new book, "so anyway." the book was fantastic. we're going to talk to him about monte python. which, for me, is a big deal. hopefully it's a big deal for you as well. so i'm very much looking for that. also, from the new film "welcome to me," linda cardelinni will be with us this evening. [ cheers and applause ] she also has a great new show on netflix called "bloodlines." we talk to her about that. and former congressman barney frank is here this evening. [ cheers and applause ] he had the new book called "frank." so that's great. now, before we get to all of that, quick question, do you guys read the news? anybody ever read the news? [ scatter applause ] great, okay, good. well, i found, because i read the news -- i found and i don't know if you do this you too, but a lot of
times, i'll just read the headlines and the first couple of paragraphs of an article. i get the gist and then move on to the next one. because you know, there are so many articles to read. but the truth is there's really valuable information if you read all the way to the end of the article. let me show you what i'm talking about in a segment we call "the last line of the news story." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: alright, let's start with the national news. here is an article the other day. "conservatives don't think global warming in their lifetime." so in this article, the first couple paragraphs talk about not only do majority of conservatives believe is not happening, but 40% believed that it will never happen. but lets see what we would've learned if we read all the way to the end -- "to this day, i have seen absolutely no evidence that clearly indicates that climate change is real," said noted global warming denier senator james inhofe, who was then knocked off the podium by a beach ball-sized hailstone. [ laughter ] [ applause ] see what you miss? when you don't read all the way to the end of a news story? very important.
turning to entertainment news -- "x-men character ice man outed as gay." okay, so this article says that in the latest comic, it was revealed that iceman, the long-time superhero, an original member of the x-men is gay. but let's check out the last line of a that news story -- "inspired by iceman's courage, aquaman held a press conference and came out as totally lame. [ laughter ] so glad you finally had the courage. we all knew aquaman. you were never fooling any us. in the all important one direction news -- "stephen hawking has a message for zayn malik's one direction fans." this is an actual article. world renowned physicist stephen hawking says there could be possibly be alternate universes where zayn is still in one direction. [ laughter ] let's go to the bottom of the news story. "hawking concluded by saying that, 'no matter which of the infinite universes you're in, harry is always the cute one'." nowhere else. there's nowhere were that's not true. check out some new york city
news -- "nyc wants to be western hemisphere's cleanest city." this is true. [ laughter ] according to the story, in recognition of earth day last week, new york city has released plans to reduce its waste output by 90%. let's check out the last line of news story -- "and with on last tender glance, manhattan pushed with all its might and watched as staten island floated out to sea." [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] and finally, in "50 shades of grey news" -- "e.l. james' husband writing '50 shades of grey' sequel." apparently 50 shades author e.l. james has enlisted her husband to write the series movie sequel. let's check out the last line of the news story -- "when reached for comment, e.l. james husband turned his back and slowly drew the curtains. i have something for you,' he whispered. he then placed a riding crop at the foot of the bed. 'do you like pleasure or pain?' this reporter responded, 'i don't. i just wanted you to comment on --' 'shh,' he whispered. putting his fingers to this reporters lips, 'i've got my comment for you right here.' he then gestured to his crotch, 'it's my penis.'" [ laughter ]
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] seth: welcome back, everybody. our first guest tonight is a comedy legend and academy award nominated writer, who you know from one of the greatest sketch comedy groups of all time -- monty phyton. they just celebrated their 40th anniversary of their iconic film "monty python and the holy grail " at the tribeca film festival this weekend. and you can also buy his memoir, "so anyway", in stores now. please welcome to the show, john cleese. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome. >> thank you. >> seth: it is a real honor to have you here. >> it is. it is. [ laughter ] >> seth: i'm glad we both recognized it. it's as obvious to you as me. so you guys, the whole troop, the five of you, got on stage in the new york tribeca film festival. >> yeah, we came over on friday,
saturday, and sunday they showed our movies and a very good new documentary. but the documentary is wonderful, because it is so fun. but it seems like it must have been a little terrifying for you guys to get up and do those sketches again. >> well, we didn't know if people would laugh until we did the first night. and the audiences were so absolutely wonderful, i mean, us comics we're always scared -- >> seth: yeah. >> -- that we're not going to get a laugh. >> seth: right. >> because it's humiliating. >> seth: and even if you do it last night, you don't -- you may think that those are the last idiots who are going to laugh at you. [ light laughter ] >> yeah, you never know. you're always scared that they won't laugh. well this was like meeting all of your best friends when you go to heaven. and they were all so lovely and supportive. and the nerves that i usually have, just went completely away. we had the most wonderful time. and i said to eric idle at the beginning, "we've got to behave ourselves. we mustn't start breaking up, well we call is 'corpsing'." >> seth: yeah, "corpsing", i had never heard that term -- so "corpsing" is like breaking up.
>> breaking up when you're supposed to be in a sketch or overplaying a character. so i said to eric, "the first person who breaks up should put 10,000 dollars in the pot." so we walked out on stage. and the orchestra played the silly bit of spanish music and then all the musicians stood up and said, "ole!" [ light laughter ] and i hadn't seen it in rehearsal. and before i'd said a single word, i broke up. [ laughter ] but you see, it helped because the audience kind of got a message. which is, "we're just here to have fun." >> seth: yeah. >> because some of the people in the audience, in the beginning were sort of like "well, what's this going to be like?" >> seth: right. >> and the newspapers were saying "oh, are they really going to be funny, these doddering old twerps", you know? we were kind of a little anxious at the very beginning. but once you get that amount of affection coming at you, you just have a wonderful time. >> seth: also the film documents your early live performances as well. so monty python was first a successful television show and
then you came here and performed in new york city, then went to the hollywood bowl -- >> a long time ago. it was '76 here at the city centre and then hollywood bowl in 1980 and we hadn't been together on stage for thirty-four years. >> seth: wow. >> thirty four years! >> seth: and did all, both the parts you loved about them and you parts you didn't love, did they all come back immediately? >> well, it was funny when he had the read through. we all found it funny. and we were saying to each other, "how could we find this funny when we wrote it 40 years ago?" but it just felt funny. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> it was lovely, it was absolutely wonderful. and i was able to do the "dead parrot" sketch with michael palin, you know, and we just -- [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: now, that i will say, "the dead parrot" sketch is timeless. >> timeless. >> seth: because a dead parrot now is just as bad a thing to buy as it was forty years ago.
>> that's right. and the whole point of choosing a parrot is that nobody likes parrots. if it had been a cat or a dog, people would have said "poor kitty", but nobody gives a [ bleep ] about parrots. [ laughter ] not even people who have parrots like parrots. >> seth: even though it'll be a good idea to have a parrot, two months in, you hate the parrot. >> oh, you hate the parrot from the moment it arrived. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> parrots are only good for telling jokes. >> seth: yeah, but then you have to do all the work of teaching the parrot the jokes. >> oh, no, no. i mean jokes about parrots. >> seth: good, yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: but if you could get a macaw to learn a joke, that's not bad. >> that would be very good. >> seth: but then of course, they only know the one. and that's -- [ caw ] this is, here's -- >> they don't get nervous about telling it. >> seth: that's the thing, so it's always the same. so a talent show, when i was in high school. my brother and i did the "dead parrot" sketch in high school. >> no. >> seth: yeah, and it was just that we were huge monty python
fans. we performed the "dead parrot" sketch. and years later, i had been hired on "snl" and i went back for my high school reunion. and i'm at the bar and a guy i know comes up and he says, "i always knew that you were such a great writer." and i was, "how did you know?" when you wrote that "dead parrot" sketch in high school. [ laughter ] i didn't have the heart to tell him that was one of the most classic sketches. >> it's so fun doing through, because palin and i really like acting off each other and he's such a funny man. he can always say something to break me up. and when we did it on stage, it was always the last sketch, and people would start -- it would become a riot. and he would start changing the dialogue, you know when he comes back on, if you remember. >> seth: yeah. >> he tells me he hasn't got a parrot to replace the one i finally convinced him --. >> seth: it was a slug, right? >> that's right. and he says, "i've got a slug." and i say, "does it talk?" and he's supposed to say, "not really" but one night, he said "well, it's muttering a bit tonight." [ laughter ] and then what was so great was,
this was at city centre, i laughed so much by the time i came back to do -- go on in the sketch, i had no idea what the line was. and i was so relaxed, i turned to the audience and i said, "what's the next line?" and about 600 of them shouted the next line out. and i said, "what is the point of this? [ laughter ] you pay good money to see us perform, you know the [ bleep ] thing better than we do." >> seth: do you mind sticking around? i have some more questions for you. we'll be right back with more john cleese. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ americans...
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which i now find out was not one of your favorite things to do. >> no, well i never thought it was a very good sketch. it was written by jones and palin, and they're not terribly good. [ laughter ] >> but the sheer brilliance of my performance managed to -- >> seth: yeah. well, that again, i made it very clear when i got the poster i didn't want the writers on it. i just wanted the performer. ladies were very impressed when i brought them back to my childhood bedroom. [ laughter ] i would say, "do you enjoy sketch comedy that airs on public television?" >> when we were doing the stage show, they said at the very beginning, the other pythons said "you've got to the silly walk." and i said, "oh, i don't want to do it." you know, it's hard work with silly walks. i had to limber up beforehand. and they said, "do it. please do it." the very first night in southampton, i did it, and it was a disaster. i was delighted. there wasn't a single laugh. there i was, like this the stage and the audience was sitting there going -- [ light laughter ]
and i came off and i said, "i never have to do it again." they said "no, no, no, one more try." i said, "nope." they said, "once more. once more, in brighton tomorrow night. and then if they don't laugh, then you don't have to do it again." so, i went on the next night in brighton and did all this and the [ bleep ] laughed. [ laughter ] >> seth: so you were suck -- >> i was stuck with it. i had to do it. i had to do it. >> seth: i loved that. i was a huge "fawlty towers" fan as well. such a wonderful show. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i really do love -- you know, one of the things i love about your book is you kind of talked about the rules you had for the way basil faulty gets angry. like, it was very based in that he always -- fear was like the core -- >> the core of his -- >> seth: explain that real quick. >> well, it's just that when people get frantic, when you write farce, which is what they are, that little thirty minute farces, it's always about the fact that something that has happened has got to be hidden. you know, got to be concealed.
so, it's always fear that it's going to be revealed that drives people's energy and panic. so, it very easily slips into anger, because they're so frustrated that they can't control the situation. >> seth: it was so lovely to hear. and i do agree with you, that somebody being fully angry is not as much fun as watching someone fighting. >> if i started challenging you, "what the hell do you think you are doing? bloody seth, you bring me on this [ bleep ] show?" [ laughter ] you're not supposed to laugh. i'm just making a point that is not funny. [ laughter ] shall i do it again? >> seth: yeah, please. >> all right. what the hell do you think bringing me on this show and expecting me to be amusing! i mean, it's simply no fun for me! i come out here! you don't even have notes! you have idea of what you're going to say to me! [ cheers and applause ] no, no, no! >> seth: so show me now, how much better the alternative is? >> how much better the
alternative would be? why am i here? there's no point in it. you know, i don't want to be on the show anymore. thank you. [ laughter ] seth: no, no, you have to stay. you have to stay. don't leave please. [ applause ] love it. and we talked about it a little bit, so when you guys first came here and started doing the show -- the live show in the '70s, you had no idea, obviously, you couldn't have known how popular it was. >> what happened was, we finished the television in england before it even got shown on pbs here. it was shown in dallas. would you believe that the first place? >> seth: really? >> after it finished in england. and then, thank god, "holy grail" came out. so people who had just started to watch it here in the states went to "the holy grail" and that was when it started to become more successful. but nobody knew, seth, what a big hit it would become. of course we didn't. you never do, do you? >> seth: no you have no idea.
>> you never know when something's gonna -- >> seth: what i loved was you were playing sort of rock venues and you sort of realized that people were watching a comedy show, the way they watch rock music. >> the first night at the city centre, i went on at the very beginning, and i can't remember the sketch. and i did the first line. and the audience exploded like these lovely people here and i thought "oh, this is growing the be fun." and i did the rest of the sketch to complete silence. and then i did the last line and they exploded again. i came off and i went to the one of the stage hands and i said, "what's going on?" he said, "it's not a theatrical show. it's a rock concert. and he took me to the curtain, there was a little gauze in the curtain and he said, "watch." and i looked at the audience and the audience were doing this --. [ laughter ] they all knew the lines. it was extraordinary. so they didn't laugh, but they were perfectly happy and he said, it's like a rock concert. they got the songs at home better quality then they
actually get in the arena, but they just want to be part of the evening. >> seth: well, it's great, and it's been lovely having you be apart of this evening. it's such an honor to have you. [ cheers and applause ] john cleese everyone! his memoir, "so anyways" in stores now. we'll be right back with more "late night!" [ cheers and applause ] ♪ what's this? a box. it takes worn out things and makes 'em better. wanna see? yeah! [motorcycle engine revs] cool! what else ya got? it's our biggest breakthrough yet! wow! [dinosaur roar] we're taking worn out batteries... ...and making them into something strong. new energizer ecoadvanced. world's first long lasting battery made with 4% recycled batteries.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. our next guest is an emmy-nominated actress who you know from her work in "freaks and geeks," "e.r." and "mad men." you can see her now in the netflix series "bloodline" and in the new movie, "welcome to me" which opens in theaters this friday. let's take a look. >> so how long do you plan on staying? >> indefinitely. ♪ >> do you love hector? >> well, i'm sure we can work something out. do you have a dog? >> no. ♪ >> what's the matter sweetie? >> located in the beautiful palm springs area -- ♪ >> seth: please welcome linda cardellini. ♪
[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: how's it going? >> it's good. it's great. >> seth: i feel like we met once like ten years ago and it's so nice to see you again. >> it's so nice to see you too. >> seth: and congratulations on the film. it's a little -- the premise is a little strange. why don't you explain it for us really quick. >> okay, well, kristen wiig plays this woman, alice klieg, who has borderline personality disorder and she wins about $86 million in the lottery. >> seth: okay. >> and she spends it all too make a public access show about herself. >> seth: gotcha. >> right. [ laughter ] >> seth: because her life goal, she wants to be oprah. >> yes, she is obsessed with oprah. and i play her long-suffering, like, very caring best friend. >> seth: that's great. and, did you enjoy working with kristen? she was one of the best people -- >> yeah, come on, you know her. she's amazing. >> seth: i was just asking to see, because if you said, "no," i'd know you were a weirdo. >> right, right, right. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's was like my test question. >> but you knew that ten years ago when you met me. >> seth: that is true. you didn't want to be oprah, but you are a bit of a game show person? >> yes, yes. i mean i like oprah. don't get me wrong. >> seth: gotcha. >> but i --
>> seth: good way to save your career. [ laughter ] don't pick on oprah. >> but, yeah. no, i love game shows. >> seth: and you've appeared on game shows? >> yeah, i've been on two. it was the first time i was ever on television. i was on "the price is right." >> seth: okay, and how did you do? >> i won a fireplace. >> seth: wow. [ laughter ] >> i did. i bid a $1,000 and i won a fireplace. >> seth: now, that seems like -- i can't quite wrap my head around what you win when you win a fireplace. >> right. >> seth: because if you don't have -- >> it's more like a mantel with fake flames. >> seth: and i'm guessing that you were at the age where you weren't looking to have a fireplace. >> no, i was in college. >> seth: yeah, you weren't, yeah. >> they also offered me a black lacquer bedroom set. i lost that game. >> seth: okay. >> and that was devastating at the time. >> seth: right. >> and you could see me say, "i need that." which, i had a black lacquer bedroom set at home. so i didn't need that. >> seth: always good to have a backup. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> seth: always good to have a backup. >> and it was early '90s, you know. >> seth: and then you were almost on "wheel of fortune"? >> i was. i was chosen to be on
"wheel of fortune," which was a rigorous screen process at the time. you actually have to compete against people in like the ballroom at the marriott or, you know, one of those big hotels. >> seth: oh, wow. >> and i went and i won. i basically won to be on the show. i won out of all the people there. and then it took a year and a half until they called you up on the show because it was so popular at the time. and by the time they did that, i had gotten my acting job on abc so i couldn't -- i was on a kids morning show. >> seth: it was a conflict of interest. >> it was a conflict. i couldn't do it. >> seth: wow, that's heart breaking. >> but, i was also on "the family feud." >> seth: you were. >> not with my real family though, with, "freaks and geeks." >> seth: oh, that's great. >> yeah. we did like "freaks and geeks." [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: what show were you up against? >> there was a show at the time called "popular" which was, you know, the opposite of "freaks and geeks." [ laughter ] so we played against them. >> seth: did you guys win? >> we won, i think, three of five. and the first time we lost, we were playing for charity, and the first time we lost it was just like the most devastating thing. >> seth: yeah. >> thinking you were charity money out of sick children's -- >> seth: right. >> and we were crying. we were devastated. >> seth: yeah. well, "popular" kids must have been playing for a charity as well. >> they were, but we knew the little girl we were playing for
so, you know, it was very personal. >> seth: never get to know your charity. [ laughter ] >> nice. i'll remember you said that. i'll tweet that. >> seth: so, congratulations on "bloodline," which is on netflix, which is great. [ applause ] and then, i know i'm putting you in an impossible situation here, because you can't talk about it, because everything's top secret. but, you are in -- >> everything i'm in is top secret. >> seth: it's amazing! well, "man men," top secret. >> yes. >> seth: and you were wonderful in that. >> thank you. >> emmy nominated for that. and then "avengers." you're in "avengers," but you can't tell us what. >> well, yeah, i mean i guess i could, but i might get in trouble. >> seth: right, okay, gotcha. >> and it will be a surprise. >> seth: it will be a surprise. i look forward to it. >> yeah, i've been keep this secret for so long, you know. i wasn't even sure i was going to get to go to the premiere. and then, it leaked that i was in it and my whole family was angry at me, because i hadn't tell anybody. >> seth: really? >> but, a secret's not a secret if you tell somebody. >> seth: right, of course. and once you tell one person, you can't sleep at night. >> right. >> seth: yeah. >> so, i didn't tell anybody and then my mom finally said, "are you going to get married or something and i'm going to have to find out about it on the internet?" [ laughter ] so, i get in some hot water with them for it. >> seth: well, that's fair.
and parents are allowed to know your secrets or at least try to find them out. >> no, i didn't tell them. they were angry. she thinks she should get to know too. >> seth: yeah. you mentioned "freaks and geeks," which was a show, that i will admit, because i feel like ratings are always an issue with a show. >> oh, thanks a lot. [ laughter ] >> seth: no, i just want to bring that up. and i actually have the testing here that i want to read. >> oh, no. >> seth: no, no. no, but i came to it went it came on dvd. >> it was horrible. >> seth: but, i was like, oh my god, i was one of the many people who coulda, shoulda been watching this show and helping when it was on. and it was such a brilliant show. and you guys actually had to -- like, this is --i love this story. you guys were in the macy's thanksgiving day parade. >> yes. >> seth: when you were on "freaks and geeks." >> yes. >> seth: and so it's an nbc show. you're in the nbc parade. >> yeah, and we so excited and you go there. we're not even with our families on thanksgiving. we go to be in the thanksgiving parade, myself and a couple people. and john daley who played my little brother, he was so little at the time. people were yelling at us, "who are you?" [ laughter ] and some people were flipping us off. and john was so sweet, he was like, "we're on a show called 'freaks and geeks.'" [ laughter ]
and it was so sweet. >> seth: yeah, i think the real story there is, there are new yorkers who on thanksgiving will give you the middle finger for not knowing who you are. [ laughter ] >> i think it's still happening to me. >> seth: yeah, it's still happening. [ applause ] congratulations on all of your success. >> thank you. >> seth: i'm so excited for all of it. linda cardellini, everybody. "welcome to me" opens in select cities this friday. and "bloodline" is available on netflix now. we'll be right back with barney frank. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ whiand repeat themselves..... we choose to carve our own path, in the pursuit of exhilaration. the 306 horsepower lexus gs. experience the next level of performance, and there's no going back. lease the 2015 gs 350 f sport
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. our next guest served as a member of the house of representatives from the state of massachusetts for over 30 years. his life and career are chronicled in his new york times best-selling memoir, "frank," in stores now. please welcome back to the show, barney frank. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
>> seth: so lovely to have you back on the show. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> seth: i'm going to tell everybody what you just whispered to me. >> yes. >> seth: you asked, how many [ bleep ] do you get, and i told you john cleese took them all. >> well, i should have said, how many [ bleep ] do i say, not do i get. [ laughter ] i want to be clear what my expectations were for the show. >> seth: that's a good question. you've always been known for being outspoken. and there's a great story in your book about you met a scout for the yankees when you were very young. you were very outspoken with him. >> yeah, my uncle rosie wrote rosie's round-up for "the bayonne times." he was a sports editor. i was a yankee fan. i was living in bayonne. and he had threw to a scout, i think his name was jackie farrell, and i was embarrassed. i was kind of precocious, politically. and i was a yankee fan and we would have these yankees-dodgers-giants fights. and i was a big liberal. and the giants and dodgers had negro ballplayers, as we then called them, and the yankees didn't have any. and i was introduced to him.
and apparently, i said -- i guess i don't remember fully, but i've been reminded of it time-to-time. i said, "how many the yankees don't have any colored ballplayers?" and i forgot what he said. [ laughter ] but, then actually, they were later accused, you know they were late in doing it. and i don't mean to denigrate anybody who is capable of playing major league ball, because obviously, he's a fantastic athlete. but, when they picked, the guy they picked, they were generally accused of having picked someone who was not very good, because they did not go out for the best black ball-player. >> seth: oh, wow. >> there were some racists in the front office who were not too interested in having him. >> seth: well, the red sox were famously late as well. >> oh, they were. well, tom yawkey, who owned the red sox, was a bigot. he was from south carolina and never left it emotionally and spiritually. and he was an out-and-out bigot and finally, he did hire pumpsie green, who again was not the best ball player he could have found.
>> seth: now, this book, your book, sort of chronicles both your career, but also in a way, gay rights. you came out in 1987. [ applause ] absolutely. you talk about how, when there were whispers about your sexuality, something that helped, was that you did not fit the stereotype. >> right, it was a case where -- 1972 i got elected office and i made two decisions then. one, i'd be a coward. i was not ready to tell people i was gay. but, two, i would never be a hypocrite. i would not shy away from supporting gay rights and i think people who do that, the issue there isn't privacy, but property. but, i wanted to time the coming out. i knew i was going to have to do it. and people began to speculate. i wasn't married. and i was a big gay rights advocate and whatever. and what helped me stay in the closet was the stereotype. essentially, i lacked elegance. [ laughter ]
and the stereotype of gay men at the time, was of a kind of high fashion, and i realized this. in 1982, i was campaigning against an incumbent republican. redistricting had put us together. and i was talking to a guy from swansea, massachusetts, a blue collar town. and he said, "you know, that heckler, she says you're in the mafia." well, in fact, my father ran a truck stop in jersey city, so total avoidance of the mafia had not been an option for him. but, i said, "well, what do you mean? i'm surprised she would say that." he said, "oh, yeah, she says you like the boys in providence." well, new england is -- the mafia is the only organization in new england where providence was the capital. >> seth: right. >> not boston. and i realized, he heard her say, "he likes the boys in providence" and thought she meant the mafia. she had obviously said, he likes the boys in provincetown. >> seth: right. [ laughter ] >> and it was just that i didn't look at all --
i mean that was a campaign in which one reporter said i showed up in an ill-fitting suit. and i tried to defend the guy who sold me the suit by saying, it was actually a well-fitting suit. i just didn't happen to be the person that it fit. [ laughter ] and he got mad anyway so there was no point in trying to do that. [ laughter ] >> seth: you're here on a special day for gay rights in that the oral arguments were heard at the supreme court today. what is your take on what you've read from what happened today? >> i haven't fully seen it. i expect them to side in favor. but, it would no have made sense for the court to have allowed all those circuit court decisions to go forward if they didn't plan to stop it. because you would then have a situation in many states, where there was a window, when some people get married and some don't. and i want to be honest here. i have two very strong reasons, well one strong reason, one a little less strong, why i hope they will come out this way. first of all, yes, i do think, you know, i got married in 2012 to my husband. and i was the first member of congress to do that. there has been no adverse effects. it is, given the state of gay rights and politics, in their relative weighting, my marrying
jim in my last year in office turned out to get much higher public approval then being chairman of the financial services committee. gay rights has now passed politics and is socially accepted. but, i want to see it done. but, also i can't not wait to see justice scalia's reaction. >> seth: right. >> i'm speculating that maybe like rumplestiltskin, he will stamp his foot and go up in a puff of smoke. [ laughter ] >> seth: that would be something to see. [ cheers and applause ] are you surprised at the speed in which in the last decade -- >> totally. >> seth: and to what do you attribute the rapid change. >> reality beats prejudice. i filed the first gay rights bill in 1972 and over these last 43 years, i have been continuously pleasantly surprised. i started out figuring, i could never be successful in politics. because i'm gay and everybody hates gay people and you've got to be popular to be in politics. as i said, by the time i retired, being gay was much more popular than being a
congressman. [ laughter ] but, what happened is this -- i think a lot of the reason for people opposing not having fair rights was that, well, they just didn't like us. but, that didn't sound right. you can't just say, "i don't like those people." so they invented all of these negative social consequences. "oh, if they get married, it'll dissolve marriages here. if they can serve in the military nobody else will." well, there have been a succession of events where they predicted adverse consequences, we won the right, and there was zero adverse consequences. and there's only so long myth can sustain itself against reality. and the other thing was, you know, when we were hidden, we were these terrible people. and then people found out, we were their brothers or their doctors, or their sisters or their cousins and et cetera. so, as i said, the reality just eroded the prejudice and i think it's almost gone. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: well, i hope so. i hope you're right. it's certainly been an incredible decade and thank you so much for being here. we went a little bit long, but
♪ >> carson: well, what's happening everybody? i'm carson daly and tonight we're coming to you from amp radio here in los angeles with "last call." here's what we got tonight. filmmaker billy corben talks "dog fight" and misterwives performs from the troubadour. we're going to start things off with writer and comedian paul f. tompkins who's here to tell us all about his new puppet talk show, "no you shut up." from wood & vine, here's tonight's "last call" spotlight. ♪ >> the people that know who i am know that i am a little dapper dan. i like to dress up. as the years have passed, my