tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC April 22, 2016 12:37am-1:38am EDT
[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- claire danes, from nbc's "the carmichael show," comedian, jerrod carmichael, u.s. ambassador to the united nations, samantha power, featuring the 8g band with brann dailor. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers! >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how's everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that is great to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. according to a new poll, hillary clinton is beating bernie sanders by 10 points in new york. and there's only one way you can blow a 10-point lead in new york. oh, no, hillary, no! [ laughter ] no!
hillary clinton's campaign is reportedly trying to anticipate what specific personal attacks donald trump may use if they face in the general election. and after considering his options, he'll narrow it down to these -- ♪ [ laughter ] [ applause ] narrowed it down to those. bernie sanders said today that none of the ideas he's proposed in his campaign are radical or unrealistic other than, of course, the idea of a 74- year-old jewish president with a $2 hair cut. [ laughter ] house speaker paul ryan today continued to shoot down rumors that he could be a surprise candidate at the republican convention and said that he's not the fresh face his party needs. i guess he hasn't gotten a look at the other faces in contention.
[ laughter ] 'cause you're looking pretty that fresh compared to those three. donald trump said in a recent interview that the press conference held to announce the candidacy for president looked like the academy awards. yeah. no black people. [ laughter ] [ applause ] hugh hefner's ex-girlfriend, kendra wilkinson, has endorsed donald trump for president, though you'd think she'd support john kasich's campaign considering she's used to pretending something's still alive when it's really dead. [ laughter ] are you sad about hugh hefner or john kasich? a man was arrested on friday by secret service officers for climbing over the white house fence. "i just wanted to see the oval office," said jeb. [ laughter ] [ applause ] according to a new study, drinking coffee every day may decrease the risk of rectal cancer which i think means i've been drinking it wrong.
[ laughter ] the prime minister of spain has announced plans to end the country's universally observed three hour siesta and lunch break in order to shorten the typical work day. meanwhile the president of china has just introduced casual sundays. [ laughter ] i thought it deserved a little bit more but i think we're about right. that was about right. disneyland paris is temporarily shutting down its haunted house after an employee was found dead inside the attraction. but those last few customers really got their money's worth. [ laughter ] [ applause ] an artist has started painting murals around london and new york showing batman and superman kissing to promote lgbt equality. "this is how i find out," said robin? [ laughter ] [ applause ] "down the street like a dope, i gotta see a mural?
" and finally, new simulator has opened in china that claims to show's its participants what dying feels like. that story again, china is finally getting chipotle. [ laughter ] [ applause ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. she's starring in the new play, "dry powder," at the public theater right now here in new york. claire danes is on the show tonight. [ cheers and applause ] he is the star and creator of "the carmichael show," jerrod carmichael joins us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and she is the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. she's very busy. she found time for us, samantha power stops by "late night" for the first time. [ cheers and applause ] we -- my wife and i had a baby last sunday. [ cheers and applause ] we're eight days in. eight days into it. and you get less sleep than you can, than even you think you're gonna get. and it's funny. we finally, he's starting to -- ashe, our baby ashe is starting
to sleep a little bit better. but the early days, the sleep was so bad it really makes you realize, there's no reason anyone should ever waterboard anyone because sleep deprivation is enough. if you had told me that baby would go to sleep, i would have told you any piece of classified information i had. people have been asking about our dog frisbee and if the two of them are getting along. it's nice because they are both the exact same that weight. and here -- the other day we couldn't find frisbee and frisbee had gone and lied down next to ashe. and there you go. [ audience aws ] yeah. that's a -- that's an incredible swaddling job right there. thank you. you get very good at swaddling. the other thing about swaddling is i -- i swaddled ashe last night. sat him in his bassinet. and then i creeped around, got into bed very quietly. and then my wife said, "is the swaddle covering his mouth?" and you just realize you gotta get up and check. [ laughter ] 'cause when it's your child you can't say, "i think so. [ laughter ] i'm like 99 percent sure. i think we can let it ride."
you realize the only thing worse than crying is dead silence. [ laughter ] like, dead silence is the -- like you just sit -- i just sit there, like, staring at the ceiling. i'm like, "just make a little bit of noise." but it is an adventure so far. so, and again, one more time for my wife who's doing all the work. [ cheers and applause ] all right, moving on. hillary clinton and bernie sanders have been engaged in an escalating dispute over the role of fossil fuel money in the campaign as they near the crucial wisconsin and new york primaries. for more on this it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: this latest dispute began when sanders and his campaign alleged that clinton received campaign contributions from the fossil fuel industry. and on thursday an activist from greenpeace confronted clinton about the claim on the rope line at the campaign event and got an earful. >> will you act on your word and reject fossil fuel money in the future in your campaign. >> i do not have -- i have money
from people who work for fossil fuel companies. i am so sick -- i am so sick of the sanders campaign lying about me. i'm sick of it. >> seth: usually when someone is that mad at a rope line, it's because the bouncer won't let them into the club. [ laughter ] i'm on reggie's list. reggie. so the rope line exchange quickly became national news. partly because it's the most finger pointing hillary has done on the campaign trail since this. [ cheers ] [ laughter ] >> seth: wait, where have i seen dancing that bad before? ♪ [ laughter ] >> seth: that's right. hillary is the elaine of the 2016 campaign which explains why she spends so much time arguing with a bald man from the outer boroughs who wears glasses. [ laughter ] hillary, you're killing independent bernie! [ applause ] now as for the actual substance of the argument, it's very difficult to parse, but the "washington post" fact checker suggested that the sanders
campaign may be "exaggerating, since clinton has taken only about $308,000 from individuals in the oil and gas industry, while sanders himself has received nearly 54,000." and just because you're an employee of a company, doesn't mean you represent that company. otherwise, everyone who works at lowe's cinema would have to answer for "batman v superman." "that movie sucked. i want my money back!" "hey man, i just refill the butter thing." [ light laughter ] but sanders is also has also cited a greenpeace report that claims "clinton has taken $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlers, and large donors connected to the fossil fuel industry," although in clinton's defense, the vast majority of that went to a super pac supporting clinton, which she has legally barred from coordinating. voters can decided for themselves how much any of this matters to them. but it's probably not wise to assume that the voters who are concerned, specifically young people, are just naive and misinformed, as clinton seemed to imply yesterday on "meet the press." >> i feel sorry sometimes for the young people who, you know believe this. >> right. >> they don't do their own research. >> seth: well, young people feel sorry for you that you can't get into da club. [ laughter ]
now, there are some in the media and the democratic party are who concerned about what they say is the increasingly negative tone of arguments like this, but it's important to remember that this happens every time there's a contested democratic primary. first, one candidate promises not to take any money from fossil fuel interests, like this guy did in 2008. >> i'm barack obama. i don't take money from oil companies or washington lobbyists and i won't let them block change anymore. >> seth: look how cool he was. [ light laughter ] so young and cool, rocking a trench coat and standing in front of a gas station like he was hosting "unsolved mysteries." [ laughter ] so one candidate promises not to take fossil fuel money but then that candidate opponent attacks them for the relatively modest amount of money they've received from employees of fossil fuel companies. >> barack obama accepted $200,000 from executives and employees of oil companies. obama voted for the bush/cheney energy bill that put $6 billion in the pocket of big oil. hillary voted against it. she'll make oil companies pay to create the new jobs in clean energy america needs.
>> i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> seth: "i approve this message, unless someone uses a similar attack against me in eight years, in which case, how dare you!" [ light laughter ] the broader context here is that clinton has faced persistent scrutiny over reliance on money from powerful interests in this campaign. while the donations from fossil fuel contributors may be a relatively small percentage of her fundraising, she has raised, just as one example, "$21 million from the securities and investment industry." and of course, she also gave several paid speeches to goldman sachs. speeches she has declined to release publicly until the other candidates in the race release their paid speeches. [ applause ] >> and i have said and i will say again, i'll be happy to release anything i have as long as everybody else does too. >> seth: that's right, hillary will release her speeches to golden and sachs just as soon as bernie sanders releases his speeches to the burlington organic food co-op. [ laughter ] "we need more rutabagas! it's an overlooked vegetable!" [ laughter ] [ applause ] now a lot of attention has been
paid to clinton's fundraising. but it's important to know that the role of money in politics goes way beyond any one individual candidate. after all, money doesn't always buy votes or win elections. jeb bush spent $130 million and couldn't even buy a round of applause. >> please clap. [ laughter ] >> seth: so money might not buy elections but what it does buy is access. and the people with the access are the ones who set the agenda in washington. a 2014 study on the influence of money and politics for example found that, quote, "it was easier for donors known to elected officials to get a meeting -- ensuring that if the senator is looking for a fourth for his golf match, they might get a call." although i have to imagine there's no worse golf partner for a politician than a wealthy donor. "senator, would you fetch my ball? it went into the lake again." [ laughter ] so this is an important debate to have. still, some are worried that the back and forth between clinton and sanders and their supporters has gotten too bitter. and that backers of one candidate might not support the other in november. but let's remember, 2008 was actually much worse. >> while i was working on those
streets, watching those folks see their jobs shipped overseas, you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board of walmart. >> lifting whole passages from someone else's speeches is not change you can believe in. it's change you can xerox. >> they are trying to hoodwink you. >> this whole thing is the biggest fairytale i've ever seen. >> i'm sorry. >> well, wait a minute, wait a minute. >> shame on her. she knows better. >> shame on you, barack obama. >> seth: that was eight years ago and they ended up being like best friends. [ laughter ] hills and bam. best buds, you guys. so now the campaign moves on to new york where the contrast will be very clear. as one hillary strategist put it, "he's going to campaign like a brooklynite, and she's going to campaign like a senator who represented the state for eight years and lived here for 16." that's right. bernie's gonna campaign like a brooklynite although he might be campaigning as a brooklynite from different era, because when he was asked this week, how do you ride the subways these days, he responded, quote, "what do you mean how do you ride the subways these days? you get a token and you get on." [ laughter ] bernie sanders thinks we still use tokens to ride the subway.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please give it up for the 8g band over there. [ cheers and applause ] so lovely to see you all. welcome back, sid. good to have you back. also, sitting in with the 8g band all week from the grammy-nominated band mastadon, he's one of the most highly regarded drummers in metal, brann dailor is here. [ cheers and applause ] great to see you, brann. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> seth: and the "white walker" single is available now on 12" vinyl picture disks, which originally appeared on the "game of thrones" mixtape, "catch the throne: the mixtape ii." be sure to check out mastadonrocks.com for more information. so great to have you here, brann. thanks for being here. >> thank you, thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our first guest is an emmy award-winning actress who starred on the hit show "homeland" for five seasons. she is currently starring in the off broadway play, "dry powder" at the public theater through may 1st. please welcome to the show, claire danes. ♪ [ cheers and applause ]
>> seth: how are you? >> i'm very well. >> seth: it's great to see you. >> it's great to be seen. >> seth: and is it nice to be here working in new york, on stage? >> it's the best. yes. it's so great. i mean, i haven't lived in my home town for like three years. truly. >> seth: what a nice reason to be back. >> yeah. it's the best homecoming ever. i'm delighted. >> seth: and, is it true this play came to your attention because mandy patinkin, your fantastic co-star -- >> and agent, it turns out. >> seth: and he's also your agent. and so now, this is interesting to me. that you're working with someone who's obviously known for the stage as much as the screen. and how does he bring a play to your attention? >> well, we were doing a night-shoot. i was wearing some goofy wig. we were in our respective director's chairs. >> seth: goofy, "homeland" wig? >> goofy, "homeland" wig. >> seth: gotcha. >> i was in that thing for way too long. but no, so we were shooting in berlin and kind of barely awake. and we were in some strasse, and he says, claire, you know, oskar gave me this script. oskar eustis, who runs the public theater. he says it is the best thing
he's read in like a decade, and you gotta read it. so i did. and in fact it was very surprising and fresh and hilarious, and so, yeah. cut to -- >> seth: that's great. everybody's gonna start hanging around mandy on set, hoping he hands them an awesome script. >> exactly. so i owe this entirely to mr. patinkin. >> seth: this is a small theater, the public. so, i assume when you're doing a comedy, you know right away if it's working. because it's not like -- if they're not laughing, it's not because they're sitting too far away. [ laughter ] >> yeah, i mean, generally we elicit the response we would like. i.e. laughter. but it's -- on more than one occasion, there's been somebody in a very like central seat who has been having -- the deepest sleep of his or her life. >> seth: really? [ laughter ] >> oh, yeah. i envy the rest that these people get. >> seth: so you go with envy instead of rage. you're a better person than i am. [ laughter ] 'cause it's very well, the first
few rows are very well lit. >> very thoroughly eliminated, yeah. and it's always like that central, like, the exit row seat. where it's just, this beam of light. and yeah, they're having a pleasant experience. [ laughter ] it's just not very connected to what we're doing. or maybe it is? maybe, yeah -- >> seth: maybe, you gave them a thought. you made them think in a way that made them want to go to bed right away. >> yeah. [ laughter ] so we're going for the soporific effect. >> seth: see i've performed where -- i've done stand-up before where it's gone well and there'll be one person, in a well-lit seat who's just -- and when the show's over, i want to say, "thank you it's been great! you! i want to have a word with you!" [ laughter ] "what were your expectations, sir?" [ laughter ] >> no, it's hard not to, like, yeah, sink to that very-asleep level. no, but conversely when mandy came to visit and to watch, he was -- you know, couldn't have
been more antithetical to that. he was just howling, in that very distinctive mandy way. >> seth: see, i would imagine it would be hard to watch a play if i was sitting and mandy potinkin came and sat next to me. [ laughter ] like, no matter what's happening on stage, i would be so fascinated about -- what do i look? do i watch the play, or do i watch mandy watch the play? [ laughter ] >> well, he was very appreciative, so i was grateful that he was just, you know, some counter-effect to man x. who was -- >> seth: you mentioned -- >> in a deep slumber. >> seth: you mentioned this was your hometown. you grew up here in new york. and you grew up here in super cool new york times. and, you had true that you had a trapeze in your apartment? >> yeah. well, my parents were artists, and they moved to the bowery first, in the '70s, and then to crosby street. so i grew up in this very kind of bohemian environment. and yeah, we had a trampoline and a trapeze and swing -- >> seth: so, a loft? >> yeah, a loft. >> seth: yeah, okay. i was wondering, 'cause i have like a nice apartment now and i can't fit a trapeze there.
>> yeah. [ laughter ] no walls. it was basically like a giant roller rink. >> seth: got it. >> on just, flat wood floors. >> seth: could you appreciate it as a kid that you were living -- >> no. i was so embarrassed. and you know, my cousins lived in jersey. you know, this very kind of conventional setting. and every time i'd go to their house it would be in like a cul-de-sac and i would just like lust after their carpet. >> seth: oh, no! >> you know, their like, country club, and -- >> seth: that's such a bummer, a kid with a trampoline in new york city. >> they had stairs and rooms, and a basement in which they played video games. and i was like -- it was so enthralling. >> seth: meanwhile you're living the tom hanks in "big" life and you don't even appreciating it. [ laughter ] >> i had no idea that it was like, yeah, pretty cool. >> seth: have you given your child any -- do they have any trampoline or swing in their life? >> when i had my little bachelorette pad, i -- the one vestige of my childhood home was a swing.
so, i had a swing and that was like my signature thing. >> seth: what -- did you use it? >> ode to my family home. yeah. oh, yeah. there was like puddle of foot prints on the ceiling. we used it a lot. >> seth: oh, so it was a functional like swing that -- >> oh, yeah. it was great! >> seth: so, you did not -- you did not get your security deposit back, i'm guessing? >> no. [ laughter ] but now, we're like grown-ups. and now we live in a fancy town house. [ laughter ] but my husband very sweetly in the transition got us, like, kind of hammock chair. so -- >> seth: oh, that's nice. >> it's not as good. >> seth: we age into our hammock chairs. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: and you sit there with your child and go, "when your mother was younger, she had a swing. she was a very cool lady." [ laughter ] >> seth: with the "homeland" schedule, so many locations. you must have -- how old is your baby? >> he's three. >> seth: he's three. what's his passport look like? has he traveled the world? >> his passport is heavily, thoroughly inked, stamped. >> seth: is he a good traveler?
>> he's a great traveler. but yeah, he was two weeks old when we traveled to toronto were he was filming his series, "hannibal." and so he was like 3 days old. he was like as old as your baby now when we had to get his passport photo taken. you know, getting his eyes, their eyes have to be open. >> seth: oh, no. >> not possible for a 3-day old person. right? we were there for hours. [ laughter ] but we finally managed. >> seth: and then you finally get one and the babies like, "i hate that one." [ laughter ] "can we please take different one? 'cause i'm gonna have that for so long and i hate it." [ laughter ] >> but, yeah, no. he's been many, many places in his little tiny lifetime. >> seth: that makes me hopeful that we can travel with ours. >> oh, yeah. the worst point is when they're starting to walk but they don't have the attention span to like watch a show. >> seth: yeah. >> so they just want to wander the aisles and you can't -- you just wanna rip every hair out of every follicle. >> seth: well, something to look forward to. >> yeah! [ laughter ] but you get past that point. >> seth: okay, good. thank you so much for being here. give it up for claire danes,
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people like you who want to fight back. the truth is you can't change a corrupt system by taking its money. i'm bernie sanders. i approve this message. join us for real change. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. our next guest tonight is a very-funny comedian,
who is the co-creator and star of, "the charmichael show." new episodes air sunday night's at nine, right here on nbc. let's take a look. >> maxine, just face it. talent is more important than morals. >> but more important according to who? >> according to you! the same woman who, despite many accusations continues to listen to michael jackson. >> well if she's listening to michael jackson i can go see bill cosby. [ laughter ] >> come on, give me a break. everybody listens to michael jackson. >> and that's my point. everyone should listen to michael jackson. even his victims should listen to his music. i mean, they probably need it more than we do. they've been through a lot.
[ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome to the show, jerrod carmichael! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: i'm so glad you're here. >> i'm really happy to be here. hey, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i love your show. >> thank you very much. >> seth: i know it's to some degree autobiographical. it's based on your stand-up. how much of it is from your life and how much of it is the sort of conversations you'd be having even if you didn't have a show? >> most of it is those conversations. like, i don't try to take too much from my actual life. because it's named after my parents. and then i'm just releasing family secrets and then everybody's mad at me. >> seth: did your parents get tense in the beginning when you had a show? >> no, they're just excited. they haven't really seen anything like this before. >> seth: right, yeah. >> i called my dad last night. i was like, what are you doing? he's just like, "you know, we're
gonna eat dinner, we're gonna watch a show loosely based on our lives, i'm gonna play playstation, then we're gonna go to sleep." [ laughter ] it's like all right. that's a weird night you're having. [ laughter ] >> seth: you're telling me this is the first show that's been loosely based on their lives that's been on television. >> would you believe it? >> seth: that's crazy to me. >> yes. [ laughter ] >> seth: now, that was a great clip. because i think it demonstrates what's so interesting about this show. it is, there are a lot of people taking different sides of an issue. and it's a nice debate between characters. >> yeah, it makes people uncomfortable. >> seth: it does! [ laughter ] >> i read your tweets. [ laughter ] and that makes me uncomfortable. >> seth: oh, no. >> people are angry on twitter. >> seth: people get angry on twitter. and then it's a cycle. it becomes a cycle. because they're uncomfortable. you read it. you're uncomfortable. >> yeah, yeah. and then no one's comfortable. >> seth: and then you'll probably, knowing you, you'll probably write an episode about it. >> then i rebel, 'cause it's my instinct. like, you look cool and stuff. and there was a lot of debate over whether or not i should wear a sweatshirt tonight. >> seth: oh, yeah?
>> and you look really cool, and now i'm regretting it. because you look very dapper. and i look like i'm on a field trip. [ laughter ] i look like an inner city youth that's just like -- [ laughter ] like, we're going to take you to new york and show what you big city life is like. and you look fantastic. >> seth: well, that's interesting. because much like your show, there are two sides to each debate. i can tell you, i'm sitting here looking at you feeling 100 years old. [ laughter ] and i'm like, i gotta start sweatshirting this up. 'cause you look super cool and i feel like -- >> congratulations. you had a kid. >> seth: i had a baby. how about that. >> congratulations. >> seth: it's pretty exciting. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's awesome. it's so awesome. what is that like? do you feel amazing? >> seth: i feel -- [ laughter ] i feel like my wife is amazing. i feel like all i can do, is she's done all the work and she's built this incredible thing. she made it. i know, i like participated. >> here's the thing. if anyone's watched the beginning of "look who's talking," you should know, you did a lot of work, man. >> seth: thank you very much. [ laughter ] >> that's a lot. it traveled far to get there.
and it made it to it's destination. and it was a rare chance and you killed it. congratulations. >> seth: thank you very much. i appreciate it. [ laughter ] i did, i did. [ laughter ] i'm mostly thinking in all my days, no one has ever used "look who's talking" to make me feel inspired, and good about myself. [ laughter ] >> here's the thing, i know how to talk to the public. >> seth: you do. some people would cite -- >> i literally only speak in john travolta movies. [ laughter ] >> seth: i like that you consider that a travolta movie. it's such a bruce willis movie to me. >> do you think -- really? >> seth: yeah, that's weird. >> 'cause then the sequel had rosanne. >> seth: oh, right, rosanne was the baby. >> she was his sister, and then -- >> seth: was the dog talking in one of them? >> oh, come on. you better believe the [ bleep ] dog was talking. [ laughter ] sorry i can't say that. >> seth: you can get away with it. oh, that's right. we're gonna get to that. but who was the voice of the dog? >> i don't know. i'd like to think it was just bruce willis again. >> seth: probably. [ laughter ] now, it's interesting, 'cause you knew you couldn't say that word. because your show deals with so
many issues like, cosby, islamophobia, issues that other sitcoms don't deal with. >> you know, zany sitcom topics like gentrification. [ laughter ] >> seth: have you, we obviously work at the same network. we're both doing network shows. have you run into stuff with the censors, with the nbc people? >> we did the cosby episode. and i've never talked to so many lawyers before. [ laughter ] >> seth: really? >> it's like a lot -- it's very, very like, all right, we want to be delicate around this. they've been really -- we've earned a certain amount of trust, i think. and they've been really like, you know, allowing us to do our thing. >> seth: and what about, you know, 'cause again the look of the show does look like such a traditional sitcom. >> yeah. >> seth: was that something, when you began this idea. you knew you wanted to it look traditional. but you wanted to talk about things people weren't talking about on modern sitcoms anymore? >> yeah, i just wanted to like treat the audience like adults right? 'cause a lot of times, you see sitcoms and every one's just like, "and this is a crazy thing that happened!" and everyone's like, "what the [ bleep ] are you talking about?" [ laughter ] this cost nbc a lot of money. we work for the network.
but it's not like interesting or good or whatever. so i just wanted to treat everyone like the adults that they are. >> seth: you must have felt like, because again, it's a very small group of you having these conversations. you must have feel like you hit the jackpot with your casting on this. >> i love everybody in the cast. >> seth: yeah. >> everyone's genuinely amazing. >> seth: and it must have especially been burdensome to you to cast people who are loosely based on your parents. >> yeah, i mean, david alan grier, you know. david alan grier and loretta divine, i genuinely grew up like watching and admiring them. like literally all my life, as long as i can remember. so having them as like my parents feels like such a blessing. i feel really lucky to have them. >> seth: are there any issues that you -- i know you have a few episodes left this season. are there any issues you want to address coming up? >> ooh. i'm writing, literally this week, i'm in new york. i'm writing an episode about porn. >> seth: porn? >> and i tell you, i'm doing a lot of research you guys.
[ laughter ] >> seth: that's good. and then that's a tax write-off. [ laughter ] >> wait, you're paying for porn? >> seth: what? [ laughter and applause ] >> i gotta teach you. cut those cameras off you guys, there are websites. >> seth: it's really -- it's really high end. >> you get the best porn. it's like the truffles of porn. [ laughter ] >> seth: when you pay for it, they say your actual name. >> oh, that's -- the girl screams your name? i would actually pay for like a virtual experience where a girl just screams my name and my confidence sky-rockets. >> seth: no, here's the thing. the only thing worse than somebody walking in on you watching pornography. would be somebody walking in on you watching virtual reality pornography. [ laughter ] >> oh, my god. >> seth: can you imagine, having a helmet on? >> first of all, you can't see 'em walking in. >> seth: yeah. >> 'cause as a kid you grew up, like, watching porn, and like, you're trained -- you're like a ninja. you're like, hey mom, what time are you coming home exactly? oh, 4:58? we have six minutes, i think we can make it.
[ laughter ] >> seth: with the helmet. >> with the helmet that's too much equipment, you have to put that on. you gotta sign a waiver. >> seth: yeah. well, we're in agreement on that. so that's good. [ laughter ] so, i wanna see that episode. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: that's exciting. and this is exciting too, you've got a film coming up with susan sarandon. "the meddler." >> lorene scafaria. she is -- >> seth: and lorene directed it? >> lorene is amazing. >> seth: she is a fantastic writer, fantastic director. >> amazing director, amazing writer. it's based so much on her life. and susan sarandon just crushes it. >> seth: that's great. >> it's such a fun movie. i play twins! >> seth: do you really? >> i play two of me. which it is too much of me. the movie is great. it is just too much of me. >> seth: did you have to play, were you different personalities or are you very similar. >> i play it really close to the vest. it's just me and then kind of me again. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay, gotcha. so, you're not known for your range. >> not known for my range.
i've played jerrod in most things that i've done. [ laughter ] >> seth: as a guy who also has his name in the title of the show, i've been there, my friend. >> why would we ever play anybody else? >> seth: because nobody wants to see us play anybody else. >> god bless you. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: give it up for jarrod charmichael, everybody. "the charmichael show" airs sunday nights at nine, right here on nbc. and, "the meddler," opens in select cities april 22nd. we'll be right back with u.s. ambassador to the united nations, samantha power. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] the new money monopoly game is at mcdonald's with 100 million food and cash prizes, 1 in 4 wins! 100 million prizes? that's more prizes than all the scottish terriers in the us! more prizes. more chances to win! just peel, win instantly... hey, i just won $50 bucks! i just won a quarter pounder with cheese! or collect pieces for a chance at $1 million dollars and other cash prizes. what? the new money monopoly game at mcdonald's. 100 million prizes. 1 in 4 wins! you could be the one!
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is the united states ambassador to the united nations. please welcome to the show, ambassador samantha power. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: thank you so much for being here. i appreciate you making the time. >> my pleasure. >> seth: now, i wanna first start with your story, which i find fascinating. you were a journalist, a war correspondent and then you wrote a book about america's inaction with regards to genocide. then senator obama reads that book and asks you to come work for him. that's sort of how this happens, right? >> so it seems, yeah. the only downside was i went and i met him and i was very taken by him. he had just joined the senate. it was a bright spot in the year of early 2005 after the
2004 election. >> seth: yep. >> i will say no more. and i heard myself saying, well, this is amazing. i could learn so much and you're asking all these questions about u.s. foreign policy and first principles and questioning things in a way that i hadn't heard. so maybe i'll just come and i'll leave my teaching job and come down and i'll work with you. and he said, "great. sweet. great. good." and then it was only as i was leaving the restaurant that i remembered that after years of trying to get access to season tickets to the red sox, i had just been informed that i had slice of a package. >> seth: and so then you had to leave boston right then. >> i had to make a choice. do i fulfill my pledge to first term senator barack obama and lose my tickets? or do i stay true to my -- >> seth: yeah. and can you acknowledge now you made the wrong decision? [ laughter ] like that you gave up -- i can't imagine. that must have been a very hard thing -- but i'm glad you did. i'm glad you made that choice. >> it seems i made the right choice.
>> seth: you are the youngest ever to hold your position. and you're also a woman. and you work -- you hold a seat on the security council and i believe -- are you the only woman on the security council currently? >> somehow in 2016, of the 15 members of the security council, i am the only woman. >> seth: now, what does that say about where we are -- [ applause ] >> it's nice. >> seth: it's great. it's great that you have it. but one out of 15 is not fantastic thing. >> no. when i think about my daughter and bringing her to the security council, she's only 3. but it is never too soon to learn about syria, russia, you know, these kinds of things. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> these kinds of things. >> seth: i -- that's what i tell him instead of nursery rhymes. mine's eight days old i'm just like "syria's very complicated issue." [ laughter ] >> exactly. but what's she gonna think? >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, as if 1/15th is the right ratio in 2016. there's never been a woman secretary general. every year there's a different president of the u.n. general assembly. there've been two in 70 years. so it's a little ridiculous. because it's the same organization that's preaching
rightly women's rights and equality and women's empowerment and the prevention of sexual violence and yet itself is a bit of a symbol of the old school. >> seth: and is there any way to enact change there or is it just patience? i mean, what can you do to make that different? >> well, what is challenging about the u.n. generally is it's the sum of the parts. and so, in effect there are 193 countries within the u.n. there are 36 women ambassadors out of 193. that's actually roughly equivalent to women's representation in parliament including in our own congress. so it tends to be a decent representation of how things really are in the world. but those aren't the numbers you want so what has to change is the countries that comprise the u.n., you know, have to better at equality and you'll see then the u.n. be a reflection of that over time. >> seth: this was a very unique approach to your job. "fun home," a fantastic show on broadway right now, and it's about someone realizing they're gay, coming out. realizing their father has been closeted their how life.
you actually brought 17 fellow ambassadors to the show. and now, did you tell them what the show was gonna be about before you brought them? >> i told them it won the tony. >> seth: okay. >> i thought that was a -- >> seth: that was a good start. >> and i said it was a lot of human rights issues were in play. and a number of them read up on it but some of them didn't know what they were gonna be seeing. being gay is a crime in more than 75 countries. and sometimes when you come at your fellow ambassadors frontally on the importance of lgbt rights or human rights generally, they can end up in a defensive posture. but if you bring them into a show where you watch a young girl grappling with her first crush and, you know, seeing life played out forward rather than as a matter of politics or ideology, it can be easier to create of a sense of empathy and community. so the ambassadors were blown away by the show. >> seth: that's fantastic. because then you're letting other people inspire them which is i think very smart on your behalf. >> yeah. >> seth: and music which is always really good. >> exactly. no. they were tapping along. so, you know, maybe it puts us in a better position the next
time we go forward with a resolution where we try to embed lgbt rights into the human rights framework of the u.n. >> seth: obviously, a lot of your colleagues because you work at an international organization are muslim. how has the sort of anti-muslim rhetoric that's been such a part of this 2016 campaign affected your working relationship or just the working relationships within the u.n.? especially being here in new york city where so much of this seems to be happening? >> well, i guess what i can say is the level of political literacy across the countries of the u.n. is off the charts. so i'll come into the security council ready to talk about mali or somalia and one of the ambassadors will come up and say, "have you seen the latest abc news poll?" and i'm saying, "seriously?" and the say, "yeah. compared to pew poll last week. i don't know." i mean, they are tracking this very, very closely because the stakes, even for them as individuals, as muslims ambassadors to this country. they're very, very interested. many are very, very worried. i think what i tried to do, and what other members of the administration do is we try to
lift up all the other voices in our society and show the number of americans who are bringing in syrian refugee families and trying to absorb or cushion the difficulty of coming anew to the united states. and of course, everyone who recognizes that if we're gonna defeat isil, we're gonna do so as part of a big coalition that's necessarily gonna include a lot of muslims who are great partners and allies in the world. >> seth: but donald trump's making your job harder? >> i -- we are plugging along. >> seth: there you go. >> we are managing. >> seth: so is he. [ laughter ] now, the -- i want to ask about this. you -- obviously the normalization of our ties with cuba has been, you know, a big step of this administration. and you have, how old are your children? >> six and three. >> seth: six and three. and now you've been trying to explain the cuba situation to a 6-year-old. how is that going? >> well, what happened was, we had knowledge that this
normalization process was going but we weren't allowed to tell anybody as members of the administration. so i thought the only person i can trust not to divulge is my then 5-year- old. so i tried to say, "this is gonna happen. and it's gonna be amazing. and it's after all these years." and then my son was saying, "but i don't understand, what's an embargo? why do we have the embargo in the first place?" and i said, "well, embargo's where you try to isolate so you don't, you know, do business in the same way. you don't send toys." he said, "no toys?" you know, you -- "we put in place a policy where we weren't gonna be selling them" -- i said, "yeah. but it's about to change. and obama's gonna announce it. it's gonna be amazing." so i basically had convinced him not only that cuban history and politics and everything were important but also had explained the embargo and what it meant. went to the office, had most of the day progress relatively peacefully. and then i get a call from the school nurse. and he's in a little bit of a kerfuffle in the play ground playing an animal.
and he gets kicked in the face and has a bloody nose, nothing serious. so, the school nurse calls just to say nothing serious. and declan, my son, grabs the phone and says, "mommy, i was playing with sawyer. we need an embargo against sawyer." [ laughter ] and i'm like, "wow!" it translates so quickly. they immediately find a way to take the tools in the toolbox and apply them to their daily lives. >> seth: i know -- i imagine since we now know that you'll discuss almost anything with your children, then i'm assuming vladimir putin is a name that comes up at home as well. >> well this is the -- every parent who's struggling with work life balance, as most of us are, deals with the resentment that -- you will soon. deal with the resentment that one's child feels when you're a little multitasking or you're distracted and you're not as present as you'd like to be. but in my house, when i'm saying, "yeah, declan, i'll be right there. really, i'll be right there." when he storms off, as again, most people's children do at some point. he storms off muttering, invariably, "putin, putin, putin, putin. [ laughter ] all it is putin, putin, putin."
and it has such a resonance to it that it's become his go-to -- his go-to complaint. >> seth: meantime, somewhere vladimir putin's ears are burning. he's like, "oh!" >> exactly. i matter. >> seth: well, thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. and i'm such a -- [ cheers and applause ] >> it's great to be here. >> seth: such a great appreciator of the work you do. ambassador samantha power. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ kids, juicy fyeah.gum with starburst flavors? (mmm...) (mmm...)
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks, to claire danes, jerrod carmichael, samantha power, brann dailor, and of course, the 8g band. stay tuned, we'll see you tomorrow! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> carson: hey, what's up? carson daly here with some more "last call" for you. welcome to the show. we're at skyroom in new york city. we've got a great one for you tonight, including the tv debut la