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curtis "50 cent" jackson. curtis "50 cent" jackson. nbc news correspondent katy tur. music from k. flay. featuring the 8g band with fred armisen. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that is -- good to hear. in that case let's get to the news. butterball turkey has set up it's annual thanksgiving hotline, where customers can call and ask for help. said one caller, "uh, how do you run a country?" [ laughter ] president obama pardoned two turkeys for thanksgiving today. "thanks, man", said the turkeys. [ light laughter ] donald trump yesterday formally offered ben carson the position of "secretary of the department of housing and urban development", which is the first time trump has ever tried to get a black person in to housing. [ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] the macy's thanksgiving day
parade balloons were inflated this afternoon. said one macy's employee. [ breathing heavy ] [ light laughter ] "can i go home now?" [ laughter ] that's right, tomorrow is the macy's thanksgiving day parade, and if there's one thing that can cheer hillary up right now, it's balloons. [ laughter and applause ] one of tomorrow's -- thanksgiving nfl games will feature the redskins taking on the cowboys, in a rematch of a rivalry that dates all the way back to the original thanksgiving. [ light laughter ] according to a new poll president obama's approval rating is at it's highest in seven years. also at it's highest in seven years, joe biden's collar. [ light laughter ] and finally, cheerleaders at the university of kansas were suspended yesterday, after sending a snapchat spelling kkk with their sweaters with the caption "kkk go trump." however they've been hired as the cheerleaders for the kkk basketball team which is currently 0-37. [ light laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] he's a grammy award winning rapper. curtis "50 cent" jackson, is
back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] she is an nbc news correspondent for "my money" and nobody worked harder during this election, katy tur is joining us. [ cheers and applause ] and we have a fantastic genre defying musician with us tonight, k. flay will be playing some music for you. [ cheers and applause ] very, very excited about tomorrow night. it's our thanksgiving show. it's our third annual thanksgiving show, and just like our previous two thanksgiving shows, the only guest on the show will be my brother josh, and my parents hillary and larry. and we figure it will be late on thanksgiving night. you will have been home, you'll have been with your family, you'll have been talking politics all day probably, so the other promise to you is we will not mention politics at all tomorrow night. [ light laughter ] [ applause ] it will just be me and my family, welcoming you and your family. but that's tomorrow. [ light laughter ] as he prepares to take office, president-elect donald trump is continuing to make progress appointing a cabinet, but at the
same time he's also deflecting questions about his bunesi ss empire. for more on this it's time for a "closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: trump has already received criticism for some of his cabinet picks, like his nominee for attorney general, alabama senator jeff sessions. sessions was actually rejected by the senate once before. he was turned down for a federal judgeship in 1986, over comments he made that were seen as racist. and mind you, this was 30 years ago, when we were all okay with this. >> oh, sexy girlfriend. [ laughter ] bonsai! >> seth: so 30 years ago, that wasn't considered racist, but sessions was. why? >> sessions has been accused of calling civil rights groups un-american and communist inspired. criticizing the "voting rights act" and it's impact on southern states. he once said he was fine with the kkk, until he found out they smoked pot.
[ light laughter ] >> seth: and you can always tell who's high at a kkk meeting. [ light laughter ] now sessions has said he was making a joke, and also to be fair that was 30 years ago, but sessions recent record is also troubling. he's been a hard-liner in everything from immigration to voting rights. and along with his picks for chief strategist and national security advisor, trump's early personal -- personnel choices have received glowing reviews from white nationalists, who are psyched. >> it's like christmas. white nationalists are cheering trump's choices, calling them a dream team and exactly what they want. >> seth: it's the dream team, or if you're going by skin tone, the cream team. [ light laughter ] in their defense, it is kind of like christmas. the day that a middle eastern family was denied access to a hotel and basic health care. [ light laughter ] but trump still has more positions to fill, and on monday he met with former texas governor rick perry, who is reportedly being considered for energy secretary. of course, the department of energy was actually one of the three federal agencies perry
wanted to eliminate when he went in for president in 2012. but famously, he could not remember it when asked at a debate. >> the third agency of government. i would -- i would do away with the education, the um -- >> commerce. >> commerce, and let's see -- i can't. the third one i can't, sorry. oops. >> seth: that's right. trump wants to put perry in charge of the department, that he couldn't even remember that he wanted to get rid of. [ light laughter ] and he had notes. [ laughter ] every day is going to be like "50 first dates" with him. [ light laughter ] "oh, man, department of energy. i hate this place. wait, i work here?" [ laughter ] really the best part of rick perry being considered for a cabinet post, is that he was also a contestant this season, on "dancing with the stars." and on tuesday, the same man who might run our department of energy djayed for vanilla ice. ♪ >> rick perry!
♪ [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> what was more surreal? performing with vanilla ice here tonight, or your big meeting in new york yesterday? >> oh, can i take no comment on that one at the moment. >> no, you can say performing here right now. >> being with vanilla ice is always number one. [ cheers ] [ light laughter ] >> look it's vanilla twice. [ laughter ] rick perry looks like he should be secretary of energy drinks. [ light laughter ] and then there are those who took themselves out of consideration for cabinet post, before even being offered one, like former presidential candidate ben carson. whose spokesperson issued this statement when it was rumored that carson was being considered for the department of health and human services. >> dr. carson feels he has no government experience. he's never run a federal agency. the last thing he would want to do, is take a position that could cripple the presidency.
>> seth: aw, poor ben. no one has the heart to tell him he ran for president. [ laughter ] let's at least give carson credit for knowing he's not qualified to run the department of health and human services. that was the end of that right? >> mr. trump has reportedly offered the post of secretary of housing and urban development to ben carson. >> seth: ben, you're a neurosurgeon, would you like to run department of health and human services? no, i'm not qualified. what about housing secretary? well, i do have a house. [ light laughter ] while trump continues to assemble a cabinet, he's also facing a barrage of questions over his foreign business ties and the conflicts of interests they could pose during his presidency. for example, trump promised throughout the campaign to get tough on china, but a major chinese bank currently pays for office space in trump tower. meaning that, the president of the united states will be pocketing rent checks from a state run megabank, owned by the united states' largest military and economic rival. now, to be fair to trump, he
might not have realized the bank is actually owned by china. what's the bank's name? "the bank of china." [ light laughter ] "i thought it was the plate kind of china. [ light laughter ] you know, like a bank for your plates. [ light laughter ] you would deposit plates, and then if you had a dinner party, you would take out -- the number of plates for the guests you had. and then if you didn't have room for the plates at your house, at the end of the meal, you deposit the plates. [ light laughter ] i can't believe this. they're a chinese bank." so we keep getting more reasons to worry that trump could use his office to benefit himself, and yet, in spite of all this mounting evidence, that trump's sprawling business empire could pose a massive problem for his presidency, he continues to insist everything is fine. >> donald trump told "the new york times" the law is on my side. the president can't have a conflict of interest. >> seth: "the president can't have a conflict of interest." that statement raised a lot of eyebrows, especially because it echoed the words of a previous famously corrupt president.
>> so what in a sense, you're saying is that, there are certain situations and the houston plan or that part of it was one of them, where the president can decide that it's in the best interest of the nation, or something, and do something illegal. >> well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal. [ laughter ] >> seth: trump and nixon, just a couple of tricky dicks. this has been a closer look. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] guys, give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also very excited our band leader, fred armisen, is back with us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] i've been so happy to have fred here this week. we've been friends for so many years, and as any of you know, friendship is hard work, and frankly fred and i have some issues. and when we come back, fred and
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so fred, it's been great having you here this week. >> fred: thank you. i'm so happy to be here. >> seth: and along with being our band leader, we have been friends for a very long time. >> we have. >> seth: and sometimes when you have such a long and close relationship with someone there are moments when feelings get hurt. >> fred: that's true and you don't always have time to stop and say you're sorry. >> seth: so i thought with the time we have together right now, we would make amends for any past indiscretions we've committed against one another in a segment we're calling, "seth and fred clear the air." [ applause ] i will start, fred. >> fred: yes seth. [ light laughter ] >> seth: i'm sorry that things have been so busy this week that we didn't get to go out to dinner even though i said we would. do you forgive me? [ light laughter ] >> fred: i hear you. [ laughter ] i understand. i'm angry, i'm hurt.
i'm insulted. but seth, you are forgiven. okay. my turn, seth. >> seth: yes, fred. >> seth i'm sorry that instead of baby sitting your newborn son ash and taking frisbie to the dogpark, i baby sat frisbie and took ash to the dog park. [ laughter ] >> seth: that was bad. >> fred: that was very, very bad. [ light laughter ] also i didn't tell you i took ash to the vet, okay? [ light laughter ] so, everything is fine. he has worms. [ laughter ] probably contracted from that pomeranian he was playing with at the dog park. >> seth: my baby has worms? [ light laughter ] >> it's fine, okay? we're going to get him on some new kibble and it's going to be fine, okay? do you forgive me? >> seth: fred, you are forgiven. my turn, fred. >> fred: yes, seth. >> seth: i'm sorry that when i
was in l.a. last month i didn't give you a call. i was only there for two days. >> fred: wow! [ laughter ] i actually wish you wouldn't have told me this. >> seth: i was in town real fast for a wedding. >> fred: will you give me a second to process this. [ light laughter ] you know, you caught me completely off guard, seth. >> seth: i'm -- i didn't think you would take this so hard. >> fred: you need to back off and give people the space they need to deal. [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay, take all the time you need. >> fred: you're forgiven. [ laughter ] my turn -- seth. >> seth: yes, fred. >> sometimes i just feel like -- i feel like it's not really a feeling. it's a sense. and i get a sense -- this sense that there is an underlying -- it's not me. it's not just me, you know. and it's just the way that -- it's how one would -- i think
everyone, there's not, look -- it's not -- [ light laughter ] it's not the chewing. it's bigger. it's bigger than that. it's like, overall. i'm trying to say i don't know, but i do know. and i want to know. i really do. you know what i mean? [ light laughter ] >> seth: no. >> fred: you see, this is what i'm talking about. >> seth: well, i'll try to be better. >> fred: i guess that's all you can do. [ light laughter ] seth, you are forgiven. >> seth: fred. >> fred: yes, seth. >> seth: a little while back when we were both at snl, you asked me for help on a sketch. >> fred: oh, seth, i don't think it's your turn. >> seth: no, it's my turn. >> fred: didn't you just go? >> seth: no, you just went on a really long one. [ light laughter ] >> fred: i went on a really long one and then you went and now it's my turn. >> seth: no. that's not what happened. [ laughter ]
>> fred: i disagree. i just really disagree, man. >> seth: well, i'm sorry about this misunderstanding. >> fred: well, seth, you are forgiven. [ light laughter ] >> seth: oh, well, i feel like i didn't get one. >> fred: my turn. [ laughter ] seth. >> seth: yes, fred. >> fred: seth, i am really sorry for that time that i broke into your apartment and i trashed everything. i set all your books on fire and stole your tv. >> seth: oh, fred, that wasn't me. >> fred: that wasn't you? >> seth: no, my apartment is fine. >> fred: oh, who did i do that to, then? [ light laughter ] >> seth: i don't know. >> fred: you're right. it wasn't you. it was angela lansbury. [ laughter ] >> seth: the woman from "murder she wrote?" >> fred: yes, and mrs. pots from "beauty in the beast." >> seth: oh, she is so great. >> fred: she's great. an american treasure. anyway, do you forgive me for burning down her apartment? [ light laughter ] >> seth: oh, i don't know if it's my place. >> fred: it is your place. so, do you forgive me?
>> seth: sure, fred. you're forgiven. my turn. >> fred: seth, stop, stop, stop. there's an elephant in the room here. >> seth: okay. >> fred: okay, and i don't think it's that big of a secret that i haven't been here as much as i would have liked. >> seth: oh, fred, it's okay, really. >> fred: no, no, not really. i want to apologize and i want to tell you that i am here now. i am present. i'm not going anywhere. and -- [ phone buzzing ] i've been expecting this. [ light laughter ] >> seth: that's fine. >> fred: hey. i'm not really doing anything right now. [ light laughter ] a denny's commercial, okay? it pays little money, okay. where do i travel? omaha? okay. [ light laughter ] when do i go? tonight, now. okay.
wow, thank you very much. very exciting. okay. i'll be there very soon. oh, seth, that was my uncle. [ laughter ] i got some very, very sad news and i really have to go. >> seth: fred, i was here for the entire call. [ laughter ] you're lying to my face. >> fred: and i apologize for that. [ light laughter ] do you forgive me? >> seth: fred, you are forgiven. and even though you're not always around, fred, i am so happy that you have been here this week. nevermind. [ laughter ] this has been "seth and fred clear the air." we'll be right back with curtis "50 cent" jackson. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪
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series "power." his limited edition line of men's undergarments frigo crown is available through iwearfrigo.com and at neiman marcus starting in december. please welcome back to the show curtis "50 cent" jackson. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> i'm happy to be back, seth. >> seth: and i'm happy to have you. i forgot to ask you this last time you were here. which is, you sold over 30 million albums. you're known worldwide. when you walk into a club, how soon into your entrance do they start playing your music? >> like a song -- like the song is playing like a song or two after and they realize i'm there, they'll start to play the music. and i'll be having conversations, like me and you. >> seth: yeah. >> and the song will just go, "go shawty, it's your birthday." [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> and i'll be like, just trying to stay focused on you. you know? and people are like, "so he
doesn't dance to his own song?" [ laughter ] "what's the matter with him, you know?" >> seth: yeah. i think it would be bad if you dance to your own songs. and if we were having a conversation and your song came on and you said "i'll be right back." that would be weird. >> seth, if i just broke off into a move, like "hey." [ light laughter ] in the middle of the conversation. you're in the middle like -- >> seth: and then -- does that, i mean i would imagine that anyone who missed the fact that you entered, now everyone knows you're there. >> yeah. that's the thing that kind of queues everyone. he is here. >> seth: yeah. do people then approach you at the club? da club. >> unfortunately -- [ light laughter ] recently, the weirdest thing happened to me. like, a guy, like asked to take a picture, like at the urinal. >> seth: no. [ laughter ] >> yeah, because people communicate through photographs now. >> seth: sure. >> so he's like, you know "so you, can i get this selfie?" and i'm like, "yo, a what?" [ light laughter ] like i'm looking and i'm like, "you don't see what i'm doing?" [ light laughter ] >> seth: that's one of the last locations where a selfie doesn't mean that. >> that's not a selfie. >> seth: yeah. >> that's inappropriate. >> seth: there you go.
i'm glad you're able to be honest with people in those places like that. >> i said i was going to come out here and stop you and tell you, seth. >> seth: what? >> you got to give trump a little break. >> seth: i got to give trump a break? >> yeah, because you have been on him before it was in style. like, be on him. >> seth: i have been on him for a while. what do i have to -- >> you're just busting him up. i'm just saying now he's the president and they're down the block messing up traffic. >> seth: oh yeah. >> and they will come get you. i'm surprised. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, i see. >> listen. >> seth: i see. >> i thought i was going to come to your show in toronto. [ light laughter ] >> seth: well keep checking. because i would just check every month. next time we have you on, make sure, if we say bring a passport you're probably right. [ light laughter ] so i want to ask about -- obviously, we know you as 50 cent now. this is not your first nickname. >> yeah. >> seth: and i know it's thanksgiving and this is a time around family and sometimes you hear old family nicknames, you had one before 50 cent. >> yeah, my aunt, may aunt geraldine, she came to the door and she just was like, "boo boo!" [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> and it was like haunting. >> seth: did it stick? >> it stuck for like, all my
life. even when i started to write music it was, like you know, "boo boo raps. he calls himself 50 cent." [ light laughter ] like, it stayed there for awhile. >> seth: oh, no. and -- >> and there's people --there's the people that go, "no, i don't know 50. i know boo boo." >> seth: oh, yeah. [ laughter ] you don't want that and i -- boo boo, it seems to me, that -- because you were pretty hard when it came to be a rapper. you'd have to be a lot harder to carry off boo boo. [ light laughter ] >> yeah, you gotta kind of have this like, this got to be your permanent face, seth. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you have a son. your son,sire. >> yeah. >> seth: 4 years old? >> yeah. >> seth: and you posted an instagram that i want to ask about. he seems to be pretty convincing when he wants something from you. >> he thinks everything's a negotiation. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> so he's like, "can i go to the --" like he says "i did good in school. can we go to chuck e. cheese?" like he'll say something he did that was right, when he asks you something. >> seth: so, he wants to go to chuck e. cheese just because he went to school that day? >> yeah. [ laughter ] "i did good in school." "i did, good. you told me to do good, right? can we go to chuck e. cheese?" [ laughter ]
>> seth: well now the instagram here shows, he wants -- where is it that he wants to go? the apple store? >> yeah. he wanted to go to -- >> seth: and the apple store -- and it's very -- it's a great negotiation because always asking, and you're a very mean father, always asking. he just wants to go in for one minute. let's take a look. [ inaudible ] >> to the where? >> no, to the app store, just for one minute. >> the app store? >> just for one minute. >> what you want to do? you want to buy stuff out at the app store? [ laughter ] >> seth: he's cute. >> just for one minute. [ applause ] >> seth: i'd take him. i'd take him to the apple store, just for one minute. all right. i want to talk to you about your line of underwear. frigo crown. these are $150 pairs of underwear. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: and -- >> you see how he says that? now, extreme for a man. >> seth: yeah. >> how much can you buy underwear for a woman? >> seth: that's true, it's pretty expensive. >> like you can buy it instead of cars, you can buy those. [ light laughter ] >> seth: right, yep. >> you know -- >> seth: so this is finally a man has a way to splash some money out for his undergarments. >> or the woman has a way to splash some of his money out for him. [ light laughter ] >> seth: so this is what you -- you would recommend this is a good christmas present then.
>> it is, it's excellent. >> seth: what are the times where you would wear the frigo's? >> you should be past the "i'm not sure this is going to happen" stage into the "i'm almost certain tonight." [ light laughter ] >> seth: i see. don't waste these on a night where the next time your pants come off is at your house. >> not a regular night. she sees you when you bent over, you wear those all the time. >> seth: yeah, so these are the special ones. >> yeah, these are the special, look what i got for you, girl. [ light laughter ] >> seth: and, yeah i get it. look, at this one's got a lion. i don't know if people can tell that's a lion with a crown on it. that is -- >> crown, that's right. i used the hierarchy of living for the design inspiration. [ light laughter ] >> seth: and you actually, you model these -- so you're on the cover of muscle and fitness. this is the first look. >> yeah, it's exclusive. >> seth: so, you obviously got in shape for -- i mean, you're in shape. >> a little bit. >> seth: but this is -- i mean, just bravo. i mean -- [ cheers and applause ] that is -- that is, i wouldn't call him boo boo. [ laughter ] i would imagine though, as you're talking about this
underwear, it must be tricky because you had all of these other jobs. you've been an actor, you've been a producer, but when we talk about underwear, certainly on tv, there's a lot of words you can't use. >> yeah, yeah, like look. i say like, man apples or like -- >> seth: yep. >> the plums. [ laughter ] >> seth: the plums? >> because you say look -- you say "genitals" or you say "balls" and women start to go like, "did you just say that?" [ light laughter ] like, "why did you have to say that, that way?" like, your tone of voice is off or something. >> seth: but they are okay -- women are okay with plums? [ light laughter ] >> it's a little better. >> seth: yeah. >> like they go, "wait, wait, wait, what is he talking about?" that split second that they don't know exactly what you're talking about, saves you. >> seth: you come home with a girl and she says "i want to go to the farmer's market." >> there you go. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: so, we had gayle king was on the show last night and i heard, is this true? that you had a dog named "oprah" and cat named "gayle." >> cat named gayle, yeah. >> seth: so you're obviously a fan of oprah and gayle. >> oh you know, at first i didn't like -- i didn't like
her, because every time oprah would make reference to what was wrong with hip hop culture. >> seth: yeah. >> it was something that was like on my cd. >> seth: yeah. >> it was like the largest --largest debut in hip hop album. i said, "i'm never gonna go there. like, she's never gonna have me on her couch." >> seth: right. >> so i was like, "if we can't be friends at least let's be enemies." >> seth: sure. right, exactly. that's the second one. >> you know, so the fans don't feel like you're laughed at for not being able to be there when the a listers are. >> seth: right, of course. >> you know, so when we did come around finally and i was on the show i was like, "hey, you know, all that stuff i was saying, i didn't mean that." [ light laughter ] so, you know -- >> seth: so you got on well when you met. >> yeah. >> seth: and you guys are in a good place right now. you and oprah. >> and i met gayle at, strange enough, i met her at a --i met her through bette midler. >> seth: so you met -- i would not have gussed that. >> yeah. [ light laughter ] >> seth: how did 50 cent meet gayle, bette midler would have been my millionth choice. >> yeah. [ light laughter ] her organization, nypr, like they kind of are responsible all the green in the city. >> seth: right. >> so i redid a park in my
neighborhood, because i did it, she had me come to like a banquet and it was really interesting because they give you -- they gave me tables for free. >> seth: uh huh. >> but the tables were like really expensive. >> seth: they are, at those charity events. >> at the banquets, like you'd be there like, "how much?" [ light laughter ] and then, they -- she had a spotlight. she knew what she was doing. like there was a spotlight, up there. boom, like a big batlight. and it was like, " so how much are you --how many cherry trees are you going to buy?" [ light laughter ] >> seth: right. >> and then the cherry trees are like $2,500 a piece. i was like, wait. i want to know where my trees are so i can go carve my name in each one of these. >> seth: yeah, i'll give you a cherry. [ light laughter ] and so -- and then did you tell gayle? does gayle know that you have a feline gayle in your home? >> yeah, she had already heard. >> seth: okay. was she happy? did you take it as a compliment. >> well no, but she was like "well, what is he doing here?" when bette said -- >> seth: oh, when she saw you at the -- >> she was like, "what is he doing here?" like you know a gangster rapper, at the banquet for trees. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] and then she found out you built a park, and she was probably pretty happy. >> she was like, "oh he built a park? so what else don't i know about him?" >> seth: there you go.
>> and then this is what opened the doors for the communications between me and oprah. because she went back and she told her. >> seth: that's great. well, everything comes full circle. well, it's always so wonderful to have you here. can i keep these as a christmas present for myself? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. you're supposed to use those. >> seth: okay, i'm gonna use them. >> when you feel like something's gonna happen. >> seth: okay, great. [ laughter ] i might like call you and say, "alright, 50 here's how the night's going. does it sound good?" >> listen, listen, i think she's ready. [ light laughter ] >> seth: curtis "50 cent" jackson, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] frigo crown underwear is available through iwearfrigo.com and at nieman marcus starting in december. we'll be right back with katy tur. ♪ ♪ [ applause ] you are gonna love this place. i'm more of a milkshake guy. then i'd say expand your horizons. i'm very open-minded! no no, expand your horizons. it's the name of a smoothie. yeah, i see they have bee pollen.
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>> seth: and there's something glamorous about being on a plane with all of your colleagues and you celebrated your birthday on a plane. >> i did. >> seth: and here you are with a little champagne. and it looks fairly glamorous, plastic cups, but still. [ laughter ] >> yeah, it was -- i think the best champagne they could provide. >> seth: there you, go but then is this the food you ate for your birthday? >> yes. >> seth: that is less glamorous. [ laughter ] that i think shows us the underbelly of when we see press loading onto a plane. >> that's about as far as i got through it and then i put the cover on and i cried a little into my meal. [ laughter ] >> seth: so part of covering donald trump the way you did, is you were actually on the scene. you were at the rallies with these incredibly passionate supporters and because you were so close to it, did that make you less surprised than the rest of the media at the outcome of this election? >> i was not surprised at all. >> seth: not surprised at all? >> no. >> seth: okay. >> i mean -- when you went to his rallies and saw the excitement that was there and the enthusiasm that was there, you just knew that every single person that went there because they liked donald trump, was going to go to the polls and pull the lever for donald trump. he just had this momentum behind
him. they weren't listening to the day in and day out of some of the more controversial things he said. they were taking him seriously but they weren't taking him literally like the media was taking him so as it came in, i certainly wasn't surprised. we thought maybe like -- my producer and i thought maybe we had stockholm syndrome because we kept saying, "no, we think he's going to win" because the polls didn't agree with our opinions. >> seth: this does -- this idea that there are people inside a bubble and outside a bubble. part of going out with trump is you guys did go outside of the bubble and is that a fair assessment that you -- >> i mean if you consider the bubble to be new york city, washington d.c., and maybe the coastal cities and the more urban areas, then yeah, i mean we definitely did go outside of the bubble. the rest of the country would say, "well, you know, you're not in our bubble." >> seth: right. >> and what we saw was a lot of frustration. and a lot of frustration not only with the news media. there was a ton of that, but also frustration with washington and what was going on there and a feeling like they hadn't been represented. they hadn't been taken care of and they wanted to find somebody that would go in and change
things. and donald trump, even though he isn't a perfect messenger, he was a perfect messenger because he was imperfect. >> seth: and you mention sort of the negative attitudes toward the media. donald trump did as much to stoke that as anyone. and he would -- he called you out by name a few times at his rallies. >> little katy. >> seth: where he called you and he told you to be quiet, i believe, at one point. >> he did, yes. >> seth: and did -- were people -- how did people treat you at his rallies? and did they know who you were right away or did they find out when he called you out? >> well they knew who i was i think from early on. the people that would go to the rallies often times they would come up and say, "god, i saw you on msnbc with chris matthews, great job." and then as it kept going and he kept calling me out, then more and more people started to know who i was and there would be a lot of jeering, but one-on-one a lot of the supporters would come back and take selfies and were excited to meet a lot of the members of the media. some of them. others would go by the press pen and yell at us and call us liars. >> seth: and is it true you had someone actually help you before a rally with your hair?
>> i did. this is a good story. >> seth: so is -- what happened? >> so we were in grand rapids, michigan. this was late december -- no, early december. it was right before christmas. and we're at this basketball arena and i'm in the bathroom of this basketball arena. i am curling my hair for "nightly news" over a trash can and a dirty sink and there's just like woman after woman is coming in to use the bathroom and i'm just trying to mind my own business. don't mind me, i'm curling my hair, it's totally normal. and a lovely lady stopped me and said, "you know, i'm a hairdresser here in town, can i help you?" i said, "sure, of course you can help me." so she curled my hair -- honestly, it's the best my hair ever looked. [ laughter ] i looked great on "nightly news," then donald trump took the stage and this was around the time that people were starting to notice his relationship with vladimir putin and his affinity toward vladimir putin and they were bringing up the accusations that are out there against putin, that he had something to do with the murdering of journalists. >> seth: uh-huh. >> those are the accusations that are out there and
donald trump started talking about it on stage and started joking about killing journalists. he was saying, "oh, no, no, i wouldn't do that." but he's joking about it/ and the entire arena, remember the press pen is like the tiny little, you know, enclave in the middle, this circle in the middle. the entire arena starts booing and cheering at the idea of us dying and in that crowd is that woman who was curling my hair. [ laughter ] i didn't think that was very nice at all. i mean -- >> seth: she turned on you. >> she turned on me. >> seth: she has beautiful hair, but she got to go. >> yeah, get rid of her. [ laughter ] >> seth: so i want to ask, because you mentioned his message and that he was the perfect messenger for this time. where will his support be if he fails to follow through on some of the bigger, maybe sort of harder to achieve things, like a wall and like a sort of muslim registry? how patient do you think his supporters will be? >> that's a really good question. it's a question we're not going to have an answer to until that stuff actually happens. but what i can say is when we were on the campaign trail and he started to waffle on these
things, waffle on the idea of a muslim ban. waffle on a wall even, talking about fencing or a cyber wall. we thought maybe his supporters would take issue with that because they were the core issues of his campaign. and so we would ask them, you know, "what do you think? is this is going to change your support? are you going to get upset if he doesn't follow through with this." and 99 times out of 100, they would say, "oh, no, no, it's okay, we give him the benefit of the doubt. we believe that he's going to do what's right and if he feels that's not right at the time then we're okay with it" or they would assume somebody is trying to stop him. so they gave him the benefit of the doubt in a way that no other politician has enjoyed and i'm sure every other politician wishes they had. >> seth: yes. >> but if he goes on and say these policies aren't as affectual as he wants them to be, say he doesn't bring as many jobs back as he has promised, we're going to find out if the support that he has cracks but as of now it seems like the people that voted for him voted for the person rather than the policy. >> seth: now, i wanted to give you credit, something that we
really appreciated from you is obviously we have been looking to you guys for clips throughout this campaign. and -- >> i know, i've watched. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you -- you've covered this incredible campaign that was like nothing you've ever seen and we always spoke of you as someone who always kept her cool and one of our favorite clips from the entire campaign, you were giving basically a report in a hotel ballroom and this happened behind you and we were so impressed at how you reported it. take a look. >> it's important to note that hillary clinton has given -- and the stage is falling apart behind us, if you can see this. >> seth: ice cold. [ laughter and applause ] >> you missed the best part though when i kind of rolled my eyes and said, "anyway." >> seth: yeah. >> as if we couldn't see anything else. nothing is going to phase you. >> seth: well, thank you so much. and you're working on a book about covering this campaign. >> i'm working on a book. yeah, a memoir that documents the wild ride i had in this campaign and everything that i saw and it help -- hopefully help illuminate why donald trump was as popular as he was and
also i might be entertaining along the way, i hope. >> seth: we were lucky to have you there covering this campaign and we're very lucky you're writing a book about it. thank you so much for being here. [ laughter ] >> thank you for having me. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: katy tur, everybody. we'll be right back everybody with music from k. flay. ♪ ♪ look how big my hands are. yeah. ooh. rawr. how much am i making for this again? hundred k. win or lose. total cake walk. ooh oooooooh! her last opponent is still in a coma. what? i should go walk my cats. no. no no no. amy, get in there and fight for your life. isn't there an easier way to make a hundred k? sure. old navy's giving away a hundred k everyday through black friday. plus it's 50% off your entire purchase. 50% off!?! you keep in touch with me, girl. i'm going to old navy. ahh! it's 50% off wednesday through friday only at old navy! this year at t-mobile the holidays are on us. get a free samsung gs7
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