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is doing for jacksonville, they're keeping themselves in third and short situations but most importantly right now, they're not interested in giving the ball back to the miami dolphins. dan: andrew: on the scoreboard, they showed a facemask but it was no call. steve t.: it's not reviewable. the referees can't see everything. andrew: third down and one, one on the play clock, they don't get it off. are they going to give them a time-out? steve t.: bradley called a time-out. andrew: that's now one time-out left for the jaguars. a failed challenge, not being aware of the play clock. coaching staff. they got wrapped up in the replay, thinking they should have had this penalty right here. right there. and they didn't get it. they got wrapped up in that. took them too long to get the throw -- get that play in.
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and they got caught. andrew: another "nfl today" update. james: the shootout in oklahoma continues. bill: the ravens, taliaferro scores from seven yards out. it's now 30-30 with 7:00 to go in the fourth quarter. james: back to andrew, steve tasker and steve beuerlein. andrew: two teams that -- steve t.: two teams that desperately need a win right there. the ravens, who thought they'd be in a dog fight with rethe raiders to get their first game. andrew: this half, jacksonville is 1-5 on third downs. the defensive lineman alualu in at fullback. yeldon. yeldon is stopped.
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leading the charge and it's fourth down. steve t.: losing four yards on the play new york way yoovel can go for this one. you see ndamukong suh ripping through that line. it was kelvin shepard that made that play. ndamukong suh finishing it off there at the end. great job by miami defense. suh stuffed it up in the middle. off to the outside of that gap. andrew: fifth straight punt for jacksonville. fourth and 3. anger kicking to landry. fair catch at the 7-yard line. 3:02 to go. miami has all three time-outs. for those of you expecting to see "60 minutes," you're watching the nfl on cbs, the game between the dolphins and jaguars. i'm andrew catalon with steve beuerlein and steve tasker.
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"60 minutes" will be seen in its entirety immediately following this egame except on the west coast. [captioning funded by cbs sports division] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] steve t.: jacksonville with one time-out, all their time-outs gone, self-incomplicted. one with a bad channel, the other with the -- to keep from getting a delay of game. steve b.: miami has to be careful here, backed up to their own end of the field. got to at least get one or two first downs. andrew: tannehill is hit, ball is out. fox fighting for it on the ground. jared odrick is the one who hit tannehill. we're still waiting for a signal. steve t.: fox did an outstanding job. this ball was baunsing in the end zone. if fox doesn't reach into the end zone and pull that out it's a two-point safety and they've got to give the ball back to jacksonville. steve b.: fox is the one who gai up the sack.
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tannehill has to know better. you cannot sit down there and hold the ball. fox gave up the sack. andrew: he got it back in. it's the former dolphin, ok -- odrick who hit tannehill, forced on the 1. what a play by jason fox. tannehill's pass deflected, incomplete. posluszny was in the area. it was odrick again who made the play. steve t.: we can't glorify fox for doing a smart play. he's giving up a tip pass here and the sack, that was almost disastrous he has to protect his quarterback and keep odrick from making plays. steve b.: maybe now they'll bring odrick to this side and putting chris clemmons on fox.
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this is a critical down. if i'm miami an it's not there, tell tannehill to get rid of it. andrew: tannehill from his own end zone. pass caught by stoneburner, short of a first down. posluszny makes the tackle, that takes us to the two-minute warning. jared odrick the former dolphin with some big players in jags. trophy talk pumping iron, marcus? yeah.
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i'm made of iron too!!-- you mean bronze. bronze is technically iron ... i think ... killjoy. trophy talk fueling up with that footlong, marcus? good, 'cause i think that spiral of yours has lost a little zip. oh yeah? 'member when that thing had some real heat on it- ohh...still got it.
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andrew: tonight on cbs, "60 minutes" with a rare look at pope francis. followed by "madam secretary" and "c.s.i. cyber." nick marshall in, rah shead greene not returning to this one. marshall from the 32. to the 40. marshall with a flag coming in is tackled at the 44-yard line. steve t.: if there's a penalty
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on jacksonville that's going to drive gus bradley crazy. if you made a mistake and give up 10 yards here that's inexcusable. steve b.: especially late in the play like that. that flag came in very late. andrew: john parry our referee today. referee: two fouls during the kick. holding, during the return, number 52, that penalty has been declined. holding, return team number 55, during the kick, will be enforced from the end of the kick, 0 yards, first and 10. andrew: both against the jaguars, that will back them up. coming up after the game time permit, the "subway post-game show."
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coach cowher will have the latest news. jaguar with only one time-out remaining. steve t.: that cost them 15 yards, it's from the point where he caught the punt not from where it was returned. andrew: yeldon next to bortles. bortles over the middle. caught by lee. good for a jacksonville first down to the 42. steve t.: this drive is all about one thing. protect bortles. they're getting guys with separation. if bortles can stay on his feet they can move this football and get in position to win it. steve b.: since he got here last year he's been efficient in the two-minute drills. andrew: bortles, threw it behind lewis. jenkins on the coverage. don't forget we talked about the
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rookie kicker from miami, andrew franks. jason myers is a first year kicker. the reason he's not a rookie is because he played in the arena football league for a while last year with san jose and arizona. but he's very much unproven as well. steve t.: he did hit the long one at the end of the first half from 58 yards. steve b.: that's his range. steve t.: that would be his range. andrew: second and 10. bortles fires. catch by hurns. bortles put that in a great shot and hurns makes the grab for 19. steve t.: if he can make the same kick he did in the first half, they're in field goal range. steve b.: a nice route, super catch and throw by bortles and hurns. bortles has to know right now he is already technically in field
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goal range, he doesn't need to get greedy here. steve t.: i bring pressure if i'm miami. andrew: hurns dropped it, two flags. steve t.: might be a pick play. steve b.: one of them got in the way of the defender and wouldn't allow him to proceed to cover. steve t.: what you'll see is is a classic pick play. a lot of time with young receivers they don't know how to do that legally. referee: pass interference, offense, number 11. 10-yard penalty, replay first down. andrew: now they're not in field goal range. steve t.: marqise lee will come down and pick off a defender. you've got to attempt to make it look like you're in the running into that steve b.: the flags are coming in from every. where
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jaguars. they had three last week. abort tols hurns again. makes the catch. to the 45, out of bounds at the 42-yard line. forced out by brice mccain. 1:06 to go. steve t.: if i'm miami, i say it again. pressure bortles. he's key to this whole thing. when he has time he has the poise and ability to extend the play. got to get in his face, make him throw the football away or get him on his back. can't let him get more positive yards because you run the risk of losing the game here. steve b.: it's a double edged sword. they're not really in field goal range. maybe his maximum number. andrew: yeldon to the 35. now if you're miami you have to think about using your time-outs. steve t.: what are you doing? olivier vernon with a late two-handed chuck after the whistle was blown. that's a personal foul. referee: after the play,
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50. 15-yard penalty, automatic first down. steve t.: that is like handing them a chip shot. steve b.: that's complete lack of poise by vernon he got pushed late at the whistle, he didn't like it. harbor flopped. it's always the retaliator that gets called in a situation like that. andrew: number 50, playing in his 50th nfl game today. he's got to have more poise than that. that's the 13th penalty for 112 yards against the dolphins. now jacksonville up to the 19-yard line with 59 seconds remaining. steve t.: now we'll see pressure from miami. steve b.: and miami will start using time-outs to save time. andrew: yeldon. for the 15. now miami has to call time-out.
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they have two remaining. steve t.: all you're thinking if you're the jaguars on offense two hands on the football, don't do anything silly no penalties, no fumbles. just get these plays down. we'll take positive yards if we can get it but we can't do anything to shoot ourselves in the foot. steve t.: joe philbin, since he's become head coach of miami they're the least penalized team in the nfl. we asked joe about that last night he goes, guys, we bring referees to almost every practice. we watch the penalties we commit during practice. in film. and we even go over the tenden soifs each officiating crew to tell our team what they call the most. joe philbin preaches penalties and avoiding them. they have done a terrible job today with 13 for over 112 yards. steve t.: you can preach penalty avoidance but you can't --
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and that was an unpoised play by vernon. andrew: second and 7 following the time-out. back to yeldon he fumbled 10 times in college he gets up to the 9-yard line. miami calls another time-out. that's very close to a first down. miami stops the clock with 48 seconds remaining. steve t.: it's not going to be a first down but take a quarterback sneak on this one if you can get it. you're going to put this game away with an extra point or less than an extra point these days. steve b.: talk about gus bradley wasting time-outs, i might waste one here to see if i can get the measurement. if he challenges the spot and they move it forward and he gets the first down, he'll keep the time-out plus the game will virtually be over in lieu of the chip shot.
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andrew: can't challenge inside two minutes. steve t.: i think they should review that. steve b.: if they need to look at it again. steve t.: i'm constantly calling if challenges in the two minutes and coaches aren't able to do that. drives me crazy. bernard pierce in at running back on third and one. they give toyota pierce. pierce trying to push that pile forward. that's going to depend on the spot. does look short. miami has called its final time-out. let's take another look. steve t.: miami doing whatever they can do to get the ball back. steve b.: i think he's short. andrew: jason myers, 23 years old, out of marist college,
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earlier today kicked a 58-yard field goal, also made a 27 yarder. i'm fairly certain when he played for the red foxes back in poughkeepsie he never faced a pressure kick like this one. last year, miami blocked five kicks two field goals last year. this is from 28 yards. to give jacksonville the lead with 43 seconds to go. kick is on the way and the kick is good. jacksonville leads by three. 40 seconds remain. miami has no time-outs. jacksonville felt confident enough before the season to trade veteran kicker josh scobee, on august 31 they sent him to pittsburgh for a sixth round draft pick. they believed in junge jason
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myers, undrafted out of marist, played last year in the arena football league. they're rewarded with this kick from 28 yards to give jacksonville the lead. steve t.: walking around town the last couple of days and talking to local people and fans, that was one of the moves they were most upset about, letting go of scobee who spent his whole career here. i would venture to say that making that 58-yarder and that short one here to win the ballgame, or put them in control of the ballgame, might win some of these people over. andrew: 40 seconds left for tannehill. more than enough time even though they're out of time-outs to get into field goal range. do you think that 58-yarder may be the spot on that 58-yarder at the end of the first half? steve t.: that would have made the difference. andrew: mostert will take a
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knee. no time off the clock. miami will start at the 20. tonight on cbs begins with "60 minutes" and a rare look at pope francis followed by a new "big brother," "madam secretary" an "c.s.i.: cyber" only on cbs. steve t.: what we need out of tannehill, he's got to get at least 40 yards in 40 seconds. got to get the ball to the 40-yard line of the jaguars in order to have a chance at a field goal. andrew: and has to do it with no time-outs. tannehill over the middle. pass is caught by landry. but he's spun down quickly by telvin smith. again, miami cannot stop the clock. steve t.: you cannot have a lot
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of those short gains over the middle of the field. those will eat you away out of this ballgame very, very quickly. steve b.: they will but if you've got a guy like landry, you're not afraid to give him one of those early in the drive so he can make snap off a 25 or 30 yard run in the secondary. the secondary is trying to cover the whole field and they're backing way off. so there is room underneath. if you can get a guy to break one tackle you'll have a big play. andrew: third down and one. 26 seconds to go. tannehill. rolling left. and it's knocked down. skuta got his arms all over that one. fourth down. steve t.: now your mentality is you've got to find a way to get the first down and then get up on the ball and evaluate the situation. steve b.: even if you do, if
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them out, you do another play just like the one you just did. then if you can, scramble for that first down or dump it off and line it up and spike it again. andrew: fourth down and 1. incomplete. broken up by telvin smith. steve t.: look right here at landry right there. he's uncovered. if tannehill wants to dump it to him he can get 10 or 15 yards and get out of bounds. he's totally uncovered. landry is veryup set at the top. that's an awareness situation by ryan tannehill. that would have been an idea place to go with that football. easy throw and catch and out of bounds. steve b.: when you're in that spot you don't think plays or play calls, you think players.
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first guy i'm looking for. andrew: telvin smith has incredible spee speed. the jaguars rave about how fast he is he closed quickly on that ball to break it up. jacksonville, which has last lost 10 straight in the month of september finally comes through. steve t.: how big a win is for for blake bortles, gus bradley and the jaguars, not only to get the win, but fenally winning a close ballgame at home. andrew: jacksonville's defense held miami to five punts and one turnover on downs in the final six possessions. credit to gus bradley and that jaguars defense. they win it 23-20. tonight on cbs begins with "60 minutes" and a rare look at pope francis, followed by a new "big brother," "madam secretary" and "c.s.i. cyber."
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>> kroft: few issues have inspired more vitriol this summer than the historic agreement between iran and six world powers-- the united states, russia, china, britain, france and germany. the deal drastically curtails iran's nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of economic sanctions. depending on where you stand politically, its either a triumph of global diplomacy, the best available solution, or a blunder of epic proportions.
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over the past few months, nearly everyone has weighed in, from president obama and the congress, to republican and democratic presidential candidates to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. but not much has been heard from the iranians. with that in mind, we traveled to tehran last week to sit down with iranian president hassan rouhani for the first interview he has given to a western news organization in nearly a year. what do you think of the agreement? >> hassan rouhani ( translated ): a very difficult agreement to reach, with lots of ups and downs. but it's the right path we have chosen. i am happy that we have taken extremely important steps on this issue and are in the process of taking the final steps. >> kroft: were you surprised by the ferocity of the debate in the united states and the outcome? >> rouhani: it was predictable. an issue of this significance cannot be resolved without its opponents. one is surprised by the commentaries, and the commentaries are not very pleasant.
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some groups and political parties may be against it, but the governments of the world, all together, welcomed this deal. >> kroft: opponents have argued that the u.s. has given away too much for very little in return from iran-- agreeing to lift the sanctions on iran in exchange for, what they call, a "temporary 15-year freeze" on nuclear operations, after which iran would be free to resume or begin work on a nuclear bomb, with far more resources than they have now. >> rouhani: if a country wanted, with the technical resources it has, to gain an atomic bomb, this deal would have been a very bad deal for it. because the deal creates limitations from all sides to getting an atomic bomb. but if a country has been after peaceful technology from the beginning, then it has lost nothing. we wanted this incorrect accusation-- that iran is after nuclear weapons-- corrected and resolved, and that the goal of
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iran is peaceful activity. in this deal, we have accepted limitations for a period of time in order to create more trust with the world. >> kroft: the whole deal requires a leap of faith between two longtime enemies. the iranians have always insisted that their nuclear program is peaceful and that a religious fatwah prohibits them from building nuclear weapons. but there is little doubt that the iranians know how to build them and have had the wherewithal to do it. now, they will be required to ship 98% of their enriched uranium out of the country, lock up thousands of centrifuges, close its bomb-proof enrichment facility at fordow, disable its heavy water reactor at arak, and submit to rigorous international inspections. the opposition here has also been ferocious. the deal has been attacked on state television and in hard- line newspapers, and the head of the revolutionary guard has
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said, "we will never accept it." the united states seems to have its hard-liners and iran seems to have its hard-liners. the opponents say essentially that they think iran has given up too much control over their nuclear program to the u.s. and other foreign countries, and to the i.a.e.a. do you see similarities between the united states and iran in terms of the opposition to this? >> rouhani: there are similarities. it's natural that opponents always look for the maximum possible outcome. in an agreement, neither achieves the maximum. both sides must always concede a little bit from the maximum to get an agreement. therefore, the person who seeks the maximum complains. the result of this agreement benefits everyone, benefits both sides because we have been able to reach an understanding, an agreement, on a very complicated issue at the negotiating table and be able to prevent misunderstandings, and take the first step towards trust. of course, for reaching trust
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between the u.s. and iran, there is need for a lot of time. >> kroft: some of the opponents are very powerful. the commander of the revolutionary guards, for example, has condemned the deal. how do you deal with that? that's an important political force in this country. >> rouhani: it's clear that some will be opposed, some will be in favor, will express their opinions. but at the same time, after the agreement is approved by the responsible institutions, everyone will comply with that. the revolutionary guards also, when the deal is approved by responsible institutions, they, too, will respect this agreement. >> kroft: president rouhani's boss, supreme leader ayatolllah ali khamenei, has final say on the final agreement, and has sent it to the iranian parliament and the supreme national security council on national security for a vigorous debate. publicly, the ayatollah has maintained a hard-line stance against the united states, while
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confidence that the deal will be approved. >> rouhani: the majority of our people, in opinion polls, have a positive view of the agreement. and usually institutions like the parliament and the supreme national security council are usually not far-removed from public opinion and move in that direction. >> kroft: you have been very temperate in your statements about these negotiations. you have been trying to encourage a sense of good will between the united states and iran, but some of this... some of the success has been undercut by very harsh statements from both sides. since the deal, the ayatollah khamanei has endorsed, even praised, the chanting of "death to america" and "death to israel" at the friday prayers by demonstrators, and he continues to call the united states the "great satan." do you believe the united states is the great satan? >> rouhani: the enmity that
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existed between the united states and iran over the decades, the distance, the disagreements, the lack of trust, will not go away soon. what's important is which direction we are heading. are we heading towards amplifying the enmity or decreasing this enmity? i believe we have taken the first steps towards decreasing this enmity. >> kroft: do you think the united states is the "great satan?" >> rouhani: satan, in our religious parlance, is used to refer to that power that tricks others and whose words are not clear words, do not match reality. what i can say is that the u.s. has made many mistakes in the past regarding iran, and must make up for those mistakes. >> kroft: i'm sure you realize that it is difficult for many americans to get past the fact that president obama has signed an agreement with a country that
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to israel." how do you explain this? what are they to make of it? are they to take it literally? is this for domestic, internal iranian political consumption? what are americans to make of it, the language? >> rouhani: this slogan that is chanted is not a slogan against the american people. our people respect the american people. the iranian people are not looking for war with any country. but at the same time, the policies of the united states have been against the national interests of iranian people. it's understandable that people will demonstrate sensitivity to this issue. when the people rose up against the shah, the united states aggressively supported the shah until the last moments. in the eight-year war with iraq, the americans supported saddam. people will not forget these things. we cannot forget the past, but
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be towards the future. >> kroft: "death to america" is a very simple concept. three words, not much room left for interpretation. not very conciliatory. do you see the day when that language will not be used? you yourself have encouraged both sides to try and lower the temperature. >> rouhani: if america puts the enmity aside, if it initiates good will, and if it compensates for the past, the future situation between the united states and iran will change. >> kroft: the united states has just signed an agreement with iran to lift the sanctions. is that not a sign of goodwill? >> rouhani: it hasn't been implemented yet. the lifting of the sanctions must be initiated. >> kroft: full implementation of the agreement is still months away, and requires that the international atomic energy agency certify that iran has
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under the deal. do you think the level of trust between iran and the united states has improved because of this treaty? >> rouhani: relative to the past, it's improved. but this does not mean that all disagreements are resolved, or all the distrust removed. in one case, on one issue, yes, we have managed to overcome the problem. >> kroft: there has been speculation and hope inside and outside of iran and in the united states that this nuclear deal could be a catalyst for some broader, if limited, cooperation between the two countries where there are mutual interests. >> rouhani: many areas exist where, in those areas, it's possible that common goals or common interests may exist. but what is important is that, in the nuclear agreement, we see how the two sides behave in action.
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will create a new environment. >> kroft: ayatollah khamenei has said that there will be no further cooperation beyond the nuclear agreement, but there is already some indirect military coordination between u.s. air strikes and iranian-backed shiite militias both fighting against isis in iraq. officially, it's being done through the iraqi military. there is also the possibility of future cooperation in syria. you have said that you are willing to sit down with any country, friend or enemy, to discuss the situation in syria in order to stop the bloodshed. what does iran see as a possible, workable, acceptable solution to the situation in syria? >> rouhani: look, in a county where a large segment of the country has been occupied by terrorists, and there is bloodshed inside the country, millions of people have been displaced, how is it possible that we fight the terrorists of this country without supporting
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that country? how can we fight the terrorists without the government staying? of course, after we have fought terrorism and a secure environment is created, then it is time to talk about the constitution or the future regime. to talk and discuss, opposition groups and supporters sit at the table, but during a situation of bloodshed and during an occupation of the country, what options exist? >> kroft: so far, president rouhani has been the biggest political beneficiary of the agreement between iran and the united states. he is popular with the voters right now, but he's also ruffled some feathers and, no doubt, irritated political rivals. this agreement was a big political victory for you, personally. you were elected president based on the idea that you wanted to open up iran to the outside world, that you wanted to get the sanctions lifted, that you wanted to bring prosperity back to the country, so iran can take its place among the great nations of the world and not be isolated. there are still some things in
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that agenda that are still unfulfilled-- freedom of speech, more access to the internet, and personal freedoms. >> rouhani: i think, relative to the two years i've been in office, i have been successful-- not 100% of course, but successful. our relations with other countries have improved. there is more freedom at the universities, lively debates and greater freedom of the press, compared to the past. of course, there are some issues that are not in control of the government. >> kroft: two of those issues, human rights and personal freedoms, are in the domain of iran's conservative judicial system. two former presidential candidates have been under house arrest for the past four and a half years, and there are at least three americans imprisoned here. as we sit here speak the... right now, there is a dual american/iranian citizen, a journalist for the "washington post", jason rezaian, in prison for more than a year on
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unspecified charges. there has been talk among leaders in the last few weeks that there might be a prisoner exchange. is there anything you can say to clarify the situation? >> rouhani: we have iranians who are imprisoned in the united states, iranians who are being pursued, and most of them are being pursued for circumventing the sanctions. and you know that from the beginning, we considered the sanctions to be wrong and we encouraged everyone to circumvent them. we consider all of those prisoners to be innocent, and consider it wrong that they are in prison. >> kroft: would you... would you support a prisoner exchange? >> rouhani: i don't particularly like the word "exchange," but from a humanitarian perspective, if we can take a step, we must do it. the american side must take its own steps. >> kroft: if the nuclear deal stays on track and the sanctions are lifted, the iranian treasury will soon begin collecting $100 billion in oil revenues that have been frozen in overseas
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banks. and president rouhani says iran will be open for business. >> rouhani: as you know, in iran, we are transferring the economy step by step to the private, non-governmental sector. our private sector and the american private sector can improve the environment. actually, it will strengthen the nuclear agreement. even tourism-- if the people of the united states come to iran and see its ancient history and nature of iran, and the people of iran go to the united states to see america, this can shorten the walls of mistrust and
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tt0w!tx#(g!!%4@%;4 tt0w!tx#(g!!el@%13l >> pelley: as a young man, jorge bergoglio was a bouncer at a nightclub, ejecting undesirables. 60 years later, he's still minding the door. but now, as pope francis, he has thrown the catholic church open to all, especially the dispossessed, the disbelieving, the wayward, and the wicked. recently, he announced a welcoming path back to the church for those who've been through divorce and abortion. and he's declared 2016, "the year of mercy." what can we expect when the pope comes to visit? well, we got a preview at a spectacle that's held every wednesday in rome called the general audience. this month, the vatican invited us to have a word with pope francis, and witness the moving experience coming this week to
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the united states. at first light, wednesdays, st. peter's square prepares for the man that no one saw coming. the first pope from the new world, who had pulled in behind the first papal resignation in 600 years, grabbed his hat, this past week, and went back to work before a crowd of 30,000 or more-- his 103rd general audience. so far, 15 million have met francis in rome. but don't ask them what to expect, because god only knows. good idea? no! he's a pope of surprises. he is so spontaneous, and it makes people feel wonderful. >> pelley: few americans know the new pope like ken hackett, u.s. ambassador to the holy see, latin for "holy seat." >> hackett: first of all, they're going to see a pastor,
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and if they don't know what a pastor is, they're going to learn quickly. because he's genuine. he's intelligent. he moves from the heart. he's somebody who is not afraid. he is about the people who are in need and suffering and going through turmoil in their lives. he is trying to be there with them. >> pelley: and he will be in the u.s. for the first time in his life-- washington, new york, philadelphia. >> hackett: it is such a special moment for so many people, and we're going to see that in the united states in all three cities. >> pelley: those special moments arise because the pope understands what is not obvious. the general audience is not about the pope; it's about thousands of burdens, dreams, hopes and regrets hauled into the square to be lifted by a 78- year-old man. >> david yoder: i have never photographed anything like that before, where you had so much
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front of you. >> pelley: the emotion is captured by "national geographic's" david yoder. >> yoder: it's like they don't have any walls when they meet this guy. it's like finding a long-lost relative is what i see. some of them are euphoric. >> pelley: any moments that surprised you, any time you thought to yourself "did i just see that?" >> yoder: all the time. >> pelley: yoder worked six months, shooting 68,000 images for the magazine and a new book on life at the vatican. what's happening with this man? >> yoder: well, pope francis had just blessed him, had just laid his hand on his forehead, and he's... he's just overcome. he is completely broken down emotionally, the experience was so powerful for him. >> pelley: what do you see in the pope's face? >> yoder: i'm sure that he really enjoys it. i think that he pushes it up to the point where he exhausts himself, sometimes.
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when it comes to meeting people, he'll fluctuate between serious and laughing. it's really been interesting to watch. >> guillermo karcher translated ): it's his style of life. the style of living each moment. but he has this way, maybe a little latino, a bit south american. >> pelley: monsignor guillermo karcher is a fellow argentinean who is the strong right arm for the man that he has known 23 years. ask karcher about the best moment, and he remembers the first mass in the square. >> karcher: he was in the pope mobile, and he hit it and said "we must stop," and he got off to bless and embrace a quadriplegic. and i remember that the following day, i asked him how he had realized that, in the middle of that huge crowd, there was someone with such need to
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receive a caress and a blessing? and he said, "i perceive it." and i can assure you, that morning, i took a step backward because i realized i'm truly in front of someone who is special. >> pelley: special for his humility. because francis forsakes what most people desire, he has the power to give them what they need. he turned down the apostolic palace where popes roomed with michelangelo and moved into a vatican hotel. his room 201 is more sherwin- williams than rafael. he ditched the papal limousine and the traditional red slippers for a blue ford focus and clunky orthopedic shoes. and he works like a man who's running out of time. >> karcher: he gets up at 4:30 in the morning. from 5:00 to 7:00, he prepares
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his interior life, with prayer and reflection, his daily homilies. >> pelley: he gets up at 4:30 in the morning? >> karcher: yes, he's very regular like that, very disciplined. >> pelley: and the day ends for him when? >> karcher: 10:00, 10:30 in the in the evening. >> pelley: karcher told us he brings the pope the news on a tablet-- glass, not stone. and francis prefers the phone to email. >> karcher: many times, he surprises people. maybe he knows of someone who is suffering or very sick, and he calls them. many times, they cut him off because they don't believe him. he says, "i'm francis," and they don't believe it's the pope. >> pelley: has he called you? times. >> pelley: he says "hello, this is pope francis. how are you doing, mr. mayor?" >> marino: yes. >> pelley: before ignazio marino became mayor of rome, he was a
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transplant surgeon in pennsylvania. he'll be with the pope in philadelphia. what do you talk about? >> marino: well, most of the time, we talk about the city. >> pelley: was the pope offering his assistance to you? was he calling and saying, "mr. mayor how can we help?" >> marino: oh, he does, he does all the time. >> pelley: the pope wanted to help the homeless, who also caught the eye of "national geographic's" david yoder. francis set up a clinic for the destitute and showers inside the vatican. wednesday mornings, cleanliness is next to godliness in the 350- year-old square. the piazza is a sundial, pinned at the center by an obelisk that was more than 1,000 years old when jesus was born. on that scale, general audiences practically began yesterday. it was in 1929, when the vatican became a country of its own. everyone can come to the
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and hours before the 10:00 start, the determined hustle for front row seats like competitors at a sale after thanksgiving. they find francis selfless in the age of the selfie. are the ushers trying to keep people back from the pope so that they don't throw their arms around them? >> augusto pellegrini ( translated ): if everyone wanted a selfie with the pope, the audience would last all day. it's the pope who decides whether to grant a selfie not. >> pelley: augusto pellegrini is dean of the papal ushers, who corral the crowd and grab the gifts which francis hands off left and right. you know, i suspect, like with any new boss, the pope might have given you some advice on how to do your job. >> pellegrini: he wants the people who are around him not to tie him to protocol so that he may be free to move. he wants as many children as
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possible. at the beginning, we thought maybe the pope was tired but no, no, he kissed them, caressed them. and so, we learned never to assume the pope is tired, and so to allow a lot of freedom. >> pelley: but freedom is exactly what worries the man who stands at the right fender of the father. urs breitenmoser is a sergeant in the 500-year-old swiss guard, the pope's bodyguards. >> urs breitenmoser: we cannot be like a wall around him. so, as he is a pastor, he loves to be a pastor, he needs the contact with people. it is very personal, very human, and for us, its an awesome experience. >> pelley: the guard is the oldest and smallest army on earth-- a force of 110, all swiss, all catholic, all pledged to give their lives. there are guards that you can't miss, and guards that you can't
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