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news continues . from washington, the mclaughlin group, the american original. formed over three decades with the best sources and the smartest talk.>> moderator: hillary on the hill. >> mr. chairman i have said it before and i will say it again and i will say it as many times as necessary to respond. chris stevens communicated regularly with the members of my staff. he did not raise security with the members of my staff. i communicated with him about certain issues and he did not
he raised security with the security professionals. i know that's not the answer that you want to hear because it is being asked in many ways by the committee members, but those are the facts, mr. chairman. >> moderator: hillary clinton, the front runner for the 2016 presidential nomination was on capitol hill this week. this is clinton gave testimony on her for your service as secretary of state between 2009 and 2013. specifically in relation to the september 2012 terrorist attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya in which four americans, including ambassador chris stevens were murdered. it is believed that mrs. clinton did not have the opportunity to tell the whole story including the time leading up to them benghazi attack. democrats say they are playing politics -- the republicans are
the clinton campaign.>> i want to draw your attention to an this is informative. should we pass on in white house. if you want to pass something onto the white house, why would you take off the identifiers? because it was important to evaluate the information. from a lot of intelligence that i have reviewed over the years, you don't often have the source of the intelligence. you look at the intelligence and you try to determine whether or not it is credible and can be followed up on. >> i'm going to accept that you
backgrounds. i'm going to tell you that an unsourced comment cannot be used in any courtroom. >> we are not talking about a courtroom, we are talking about intelligence. >> we are talking about the ability to assess what a source is and if that source has been to libya or knows anything about the be a or has business interest in libya. all of which is important if you are going to determine the credibility. which i think is probably why i think you took the information to the white house.>> moderator: who is blumenthal and why did he feature so prominently in the benghazi hearing?>> cindy blumenthal is a classic figure who is now -- sydney blumenthal is a classic figure. he is hillary's annoying friend. she would pass on some of his intelligence higher up as that benghazi thing was showing.
secret email servers while top state department officials like investor stevens did not. -- ambassador stevens did not.>> they are trying to's -- to turn sydney blumenthal into a figure whispering strategy into hillary's here. >> she withstood the 11 hours of bad debt -- of badgering and i can't remember another man or woman being subjected to that over that amount of time and doing as well as hillary clinton did. they chose several people on the republican side and they hammered away at her as though they were in a courtroom and they were going to create reasonable doubt in the minds of one juror.
different. in tone and in style. republicans really felt on their face. one more time, republican clinton. this is another hurdle that she has gotten over on her way to likely capturing the democratic nomination. >> moderator: who was senate -- who was hillary clinton's main advisor?>> i think there are a number of things to come out of this. the republicans clearly on the panel and it was obvious. there was change of frederick -- of rhetoric. there was a terrorism concern going up to the 2012 elections. also the caveat. i thought it was ludicrous what she said.
she didn't want his name on their -- there. if you are doing human asset protection for a covert spy, you put the name on there so the president can see what is going on. i think since the mccarthey comment, the mccarthey -- the republicans of shown their face on this and everybody is saying, look at the coverage. she is campaigning on that. she delivered, at least in performance. kevin mccarthy made a comment that it was political.>> moderator: for the president and the bill clinton white foundation. given political and policy advice to secretary of state, around libya.
interesting figure. a well-respected journalist for that. he is still a respected author lincoln biography. rankin is a politician. he is quite an interesting figure and he was therefore the clintons at their darkest moment. the clintons are nothing if not boil and they have stuck with him. one thing that has been -- has not been talked about by either side. and buster stevens was a particular type of ambassador. i will stay this in the best way possible. -- ambassador stevens was a particular type of ambassador. i would say this in the best way possible, he was a cowboy. he would jog around benghazi without security protection. he was trying to let the local people know that he did not
when you take risks like that, terrible things can happen and that is what happened here. there -- hillary clinton does not want to raise that issue because it sounds like you were blaming him for what happened. >> if you are the assistant director getting me up -- getting the briefing, somebody really did screw up. i agree. let's agree. the one thing that came out, which hopefully will agree on [ indiscernible - multiple eight -- >> there were seven or eight stood role. it is difficult to do in and whatever. unless you change the civil service rules. that has all happened.
that is the point. this so-called investigation by the committee is just a rehash of everything.>> a few heads rolling is not the problem. part of the reason there was not security there is because obama and clinton wanted to make sure there were not boots on the ground. they were going to do everything change, but unlike -- a reaching change -- regime change. it was all part of a bad decision.>> you are comparing military boots on the ground and embassy protection [ indiscernible - multiple speakers ].>> moderator: there was a difference between the emails in the terrorist nature of the attack. which is more newsworthy? can you reflect on that?>> the
rehashed. she told people in the middle east and her daughter that there had been an attack on the consulate and people had died. subsequent to that, she said this was related to a protest. it was portrays as a gotcha moment is portrayed -- portrayed as a gotcha moment. some did not like that. but you have to remember is that it was -->> chaos >> she claimed responsibility when she said this was now cater like attack -- and al qaeda like attack. the person who was eventually captured and to let this attack has since said, yes, i was ticked off about the video. it is not as if we were talking about [ indiscernible -
having her personal email or home address is not the most efficient way. email? >> he was only in the post for four months before he was killed. unfortunately, he was in touch with a lot of people at the i don't think it is unusual with hillary. in retrospect [ indiscernible - multiple speakers ]. >> what we know about his private life? we know he loved his job and wanted very badly to go to libya. he never asked the consulate be shut down. we also know the outpost was a cia installation. why wasn't david petraeus well? why not leon panetta, the former defense secretary,
because there were intersecting lines of authority. hillary clinton played a minimal role.>> moderator: the source is that there were more emails to her than any other source of information.>> the only other thing is, why was his input a little sketchy? did he have business interests? that is something the left is good at reminding us of. when somebody has money at stake, sometimes you want to take what they say with a grain of salt. it seems like hillary put a lot of credibility in blumenthal. >> the only kate -- the only thing that came of her -- of his memos, there was no change in policy. so what is all the ones we haven't seen? it strikes me that you pass along something as a courtesy and you get it off your plate and put it onto somebody
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he will also and canada's military involvement against the islamic state known as isl an isis. he will also work on the keystone xl pipeline project. what does the victory mean for u.s./canadian relations.>> the outgoing prime minister, change denier. justin trudeau says he will be the delegation to france later this week -- this year. on the pipeline, trudeau supports it, but not in the way that harper did. deficit spending and infrastructure spending, we would love to have that in this country as well.
meeting of the minds between the leaders. he is pulling canadian planes out of the airstrikes, but he said he will continue canadian involvement in training fighters on the ground. the planes are a miniscule part of the u.s. led mission.>> i don't think we turn to canada for their defense power in most operations. the keystone thing is big. for trudeau getting up big part of the party without needing to team up with the democratic party, that is part of the democratic party. the stock for the keystone went up after trudeau pulled out the majority. >> if the u.s. is pro-keystone, that will form the relationship.>> moderator: you like trudeau, don't you?
>> no, i think the spending is horrible. where canada goes into socialism [ indiscernible - multiple speakers ].>> i think that is right. we do have to debate. deficit spending. canadian taxes at the higher rates are very high already. we will see what happened in capital flight. it is a great experiment.>> moderator: and the structure spending and higher taxes on the wealthy and economic growth, will it work? >> yes. make the case. >> it will work. it's not rocket science. this stuff is easy when there is slack in the private sector. the public sector steps in and makes investments and the company -- the country grows. in the long run, the deficit ends up going down.>>
and hillary clinton's proposals to raise taxes in this country. >> ryan makes a good point. with the country going through a recession with the oil revenue, they are in a different economic point. what ryan is making and what trudeau is making does not apply to the u.s. at this point. >> there something going on between the uk and canada and the rise of bernie sanders with income equality. interests in various places are saying, things are out of hand. [ indiscernible - multiple speakers ].>> are you crazy? >> moderator: where is the gap between the u.s. and canada likely to widen?>> we are still great friends with marijuana policy. >> i think it is interesting as we talk about the inequality and moral issues. the new liberalism seems to
abroad who are being oppressed.>> moderator: the economy is in a mild recession that is going up. what will that mean for the u.s./canadian trade? i ask you.>> i think trade relationship -->> they are still a trading partner, but trudeau is not keen on the latest trade back -- package. he is aligning himself with the progressions -- the progressives in the country. it is time the wealthy pay their fair share, john.>> one of the problems facing the u.s. industry today is that china and other countries are reducing their to made for u.s. made stuff and raw materials. weather agriculture or things like that. is that teams up -- keeps up in canada, there is no joy in the
canadian recession that is going on. i think that trudeau had to campaign on something. it is polite anti-americanism where the have to not hate america, but sting wish themselves from america.>> and an opportunistic way, he talked about all of that.>> moderator: in this country, political dynasties like the bushes and the clintons -- bush's and the >> i would not say the clinton dynasty is falling out of favor. and klatt -- in canada, they are glad to have justin. >> justin will be judge closely in the coming months.
geouofheas g fs. m? york mets will win the series in five games or fewer. dealing with the gun issue, gun safety advocates will turn to smart guns, personalize guns and child safe guns. the nra will resist that, but it will happen.>> moderator: -- >> paul ryan plover stork unity in the republican party.>> i will say that paul ryan will survive an entire year as speaker.>> moderator: i predict that paul ryan is destined for the political scout as next speaker. ryan will become one of the
players in washington as the next president's agenda is enacted. do you want to respond anything i just said?>> i think he is popular and we unify things. he is important for the republican party in terms of the intellectual part that he brings.>> he will be a player, even if there is not a republican president. he will be speaker of the house. >> he is smart because he tells be true.>> moderator: i can't
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