tv This Week With George Stephanopoulos ABC September 11, 2016 9:00am-10:00am EDT
starting right now on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. >> we're fighting for every last city and every last person. >> ready for battle. with less than 60 days to go, hillary clinton under fire for her candid comments. >> you could put halff spoerters into what i call the basket of deplorables. the racist, sexist, homophobic. you name it. >> they're not a basket of anything. they're americans. and they deserve your respect. and donald trump taking heat for praising putin. >> if he says great things about me, i'm going the say great things about him. >> he prefers the russian president to our american
>> with the clock ticking, our poll shows she's held back by questions of honesty. he's struggling to prove he's qualified. we talk to both sides. plus -- ? >> how the tragic 9/11 attacks shaped our country. jeh johnson is here live. stephanopoulos. good morning, on this 15th anniversary of 9/11, the deadliest attack ever on american soil. we all remember where we were on that traumatic day. today, we remember and honor the thousands lost that morning. and the thousands more that sacrificed their lives in the wars that followed. [ bell tolls ]
>> that was the moment of silence at 8:46. the time when that first plane hit the north tower of the world trade center. bells tolling across new york city. across the country. and the names of the fallen now being read by family members of the victims. later in the program, we'll go to the pentagon, also attacked that day. president obama will be there to now to the politics of the moment. the top line, hillary clinton has a five-point lead in this four-way race. 46 to 41 over donald trump. gary johnson at 9%. jill stein at 2%. clinton now holds a ten-point lead among all registered voters. holding trump back, big questions about whether he's ready for the job.
on qualifications, temperament. and questions about honesty are helping keep this a relatively close race. a record low 35% of voters find her honest and trust worthy. fewer, 31%, trust trump. right now, trump's backers are more passionate. 48% of his voters are very enthusiastic, compared to 36% hillary clinton. for more, let's bring in rudy giuliani. >> we don't want these cowardly terrorists to have us in any way alter our american way of life. this may go on for some time. we have to end terrorism. i believe the united states government is committed to that. it will retire us here in america to go about our way of life and not have them emperil
now. what is top of mind 15 years later? >> those words are just as true now as they were then. i have been to san bernardino. to the other places that have been attacked. and, you know, after that event, i happened to have been in lond, half a block way from the first bomb that went off in liverpool station. i've lived through a number of these since then. it's still -- i come away with the following lesson. or four best defenses against terrorism. something i never believed would happen. twice as many people live in loir manhattan than on september 11th. i was working hard to get businesses back. maybe threatening a little bit. american express decided to come back. merrill lynch decided to come back. i will always appreciate that because it was like a -- a steppingstone to rebuilding.
safer today. do you agree? >> i have always thought it was a mixed bag. not necessarily today but from the beginning. we're safer in certain ways. not as safe in other ways. here's the problem we have. it's almost true of wars. we're always fighting the last war. and then they figure a new one for us. terrorists are more cunning than that. we're fighting the last battle. the attack of the airplane. is airplane safety much greater? cargo safety much safer today? can't tell you that. are we dealing with a different paradigm? there we were dealing with al qaeda. after going after the mafia and the colombian drug cartels, i can tell you, east easier to go after an organization. this islamic nation that we
in 28 different countries. al qaeda never had the xhasty to do that. these are better educated people. people who know us better. they come from france and germany and england and the united states. the al qaeda people were afghan warriors. great warriors, horrible people. but great warriors. they didn't have the ability to use the internet or infiltrate. >> this is coming in the middle donald trump and his team have jumped on the comments from hillary clinton the other night, where she labeled half of his supporters into a basket of deplorables. she said, she regretted saying the word half but said that what's really deplorable sthat donald trump hired major advocate for the so-called alt-right movement to run his campaign. it's deplorable that drump has built his campaign largely on
your response? >> today, i'm not going to respond to that. i have never done politics on september 11th even when i was running for president. i think the nicest thing and the best thing to say is i know hillary clinton. i know donald trump much better. neither one of them is a racist. and for either one to say that means they're getting a little too excited in their campaigning. both of them are good people. >> how about the nissues of national security. we have seen mr. trump take heat for praising president putin. is it appropriate to do that? >> i doint think he did. he clarified it the next day. he said, i don't want to talk politics. let me just explain this. what he said was, just because he flatters me doesn't mean he gets a better deal. you have to know donald trump. >> he said, if he says nice things about me, i'm going the
gorbachev did. gorbachev was a killer just like putin is a killer. but that ended the cold war without firing a shot because reagan was capable of walking out of reykjavik. trump made clear he's perfectly capable of walking out of a deal if it's not the best interests of the united states. i've known donald for 28 years. generallhe a deal, they come back on his terms, just like they did with reagan and reykjavik. you have to see that in the context with which it's made. he has the know gauche yating ability. this is all prefaced by a day he talked about major increases in our armed forces. going up to 600,000 troops instead of going down to 420 thoux. going up to 350 battleships.
modernizing our nuclear fleet. he'll be negotiating with putin the way reagan did, from a position of strength. rather than the president has negotiated with him from a pgs of weakness. running away from 12 red lines that he drew in the sand giving up the defense of poland and the czech republic. >> to those firofficials that sy your response? >> i would say he's playing hillary clinton and president obama all over the world. he's in syria, brought in by obama. obama is the one that empowered him. not donald trump. donald trump wants to negotiate and push him back. >> you mentioned the strength of isis in iraq and syria. >> i didn't want to do it today. you're making me do it. >> these are critical issues.
11th. >> they do. one of the things that donald trump said thursday was we should have taken the oil of iraq. even if you could do that practically, and most experts say you couldn't, wouldn't that just be theft? >> he said take it so the islamic state would not have had it available. >> he said leave a force back there and take it? >> leave a force back there and take it and make sure distributed in the proper way. >> that's not legal, sit? >> of course it is. it's a war. until the war is over, anything is legal. if that oil wasn't there, we wouldn't have the islamic state. when he says thing like, obama and hillary were the founder of the islamic state, he doesn't mean literally that. he fols it by saying, they would get the mvp award. that oil is what makes the islamic state so rich. had we held that oil, made sure
distributed -- >> he said we should have taken it. >> he didn't say we shoul take it for ourselves, necessarily. he said secure it. we could have some say, some control over the distribution of it. between the kurds, sunnies, shiites, the oil and the distribution of it is the issue. for all the people we lost in iraq. maybe i wouldn't have anticipated. it would have been good if this had been done. if we had secured that oil, we would not be dealing with isis today. >> i want to ask you about a front page story in "the new york times" they quoted several 06 your former advisers saying they're worried about your legacy because of your support of trump. >> i would tell them.
we were in a billing together. we were missing for 20 minutes and governor were missing. we all get together tonight. i'm sure some of them will be there who anonymously leaked the story. as you remember anonymous leaks from your day back in the white house. i'll say to them, worry about my legacy after i'm point of view and what i believe, i'm fighting for my country. i believe there will be major difference between the two of them. i don't like the way this administration has dealt with terrorism. i think they have put us too much on defense. there have been too many terrorist attacks in the last year. san bernardino happened less jan a year ago. you start counting them from san bernardino on into last year.
escalation of terrorist attacks and major proliferation of triflt terrorist attacks. we're sitting back waiting for the next attack. we should be on offense. when hillary said i'm not going to put any troops in, you might as well stop trying to deal with them. now they know you're a patsy. >> mr. mayor, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. we're joined by general john the things major giuliani talked about. let's begin with the 15th anniversary of 9/11. your final years of service track your evolution of this tret. >> it did, george. thank you for how abc acknowledged this day and the respectful manner in which it paid tribute to the families and those who suffered as a result of this attack.
remember and respect mayor giuliani and the example he set for all of us at one of the darkest moments in american history. i have, my career did, in fact, track much of this. on the favorite anniversary, i was on an advanced party in the al anbar province. getting ready for my own 13-month deployment. and today, i'm with you. in the5 president's special envoy to the global coalition to counter isil. three different enemies. 15 years. it's been a long time. >> you heard major giuliani said isis would not exist had we followed donald trump's advice and taken the oil, which he said would have been legal. your response?
separate. there is only the remotest relationship between the two. let me tell you that what we face in the context of the global terrorist movement is a long-term problem with social, economic, and political issues in that region and across the world. it's created a widespread radicalizati radicalization. it's not about the oil in iraq and the o with respect to taking the oil, i seem to remember that the term to the victor goes the spoils. in the justification. you know, we -- we as a community of civilized nations stopped saying that and doing it years ago. we may have been able to help iraq in recovering its oil enter prize and in fact we're doing
but the presence of iraqi oil has had little to do with the emergence of isil. isil did in fact exploit the oil enter prize. it did so largely in syria, lit until iraq, if at all. so the two are separate and unrelated. >> he reiterated what hillary clinton said about ground troops. >> we're not putting ground troops into iraq ever again. and we're not we're going to defeat isis without committing american ground troops. >> as you know, we do have troops on the ground in iraq and in syria right now. setting that aside, sit wise for a potential commander in chief to make blanket statements like that? >> i think, george, we need to be clear on what she's implying. we have not spoken about this.
she's not intending to have the united states be committed into another ground war in that part of the world. you're exactly correct. there are a large number, over several thousand american and coalition partners on the ground today. and knowing her, as the potential and hopefully commander in chief, i know that she'll consult with her leadership and the commanders and will give them the resours necessary to be successful. we have chosen, and reiterated this, we have chosen that we intend to defeat daesh, isil, with indigenous sporss. that's the route to permanent defeat. i believe she'll give the commanders what they need to be successful. >> that forum the other night, donald trump mentioned generals like you who served under president obama. here's what he said.
barack obama and hillary clinton, the generals have been reduced to rubble. they've been reduced to a point where it's embarrassing for our country. >> what did you think when you heard those comments? >> um -- once again, i couldn't -- i shake my head. i don't feel much like rubble. i had the opportunity to participate in a full career. for several commanders in chief. as i look around at my peers, i won't name spend the rest of your show doing it, for some of the finest leaders that america has ever put under stars, whether they're admirals or generals. they're spectacular leaders. they've not been reduced to rubble. in fact, they're some of the finest leaders and national security specialists and authorities that this country has minted. in a generation. i was proud to serve with them. i'm proud to have them in their leadership positions in the
the generals to come up with a plan to defeat isis. if he were to do that, would he get the plan we have today or something dramatically different? >> it's hard to say what the -- what the commander in chief would do. when he calls in his key advisers. would be to offer them his guidance, as is appropriate, as the commander in chief, for how he sees the conflict. of course, he would ask f guidance. and would give them some period of time to come back with their best advice. best military advice. this is key. this is why we have such fine leaders today. and the critical role that they play. they provide the commander in chief their best military advice. my guess would be, if he tasked general dunford and military leadership to come back with him, they would get from them, he would get from them their
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brought down by heroic passengers to save the u.s. capitol. we're joined by homeland security secretary jeh johnson from ground zero. on anniversaries like this, we're so concerned about possible follow-on attacks. are you picking up any intelligence on an imminent threat? >> george, there's no specific credible intelligence around the programs goi indicating any type of terrorist plot directed at these programs today. the point, however, is that in the current environment, we have to deal with the prospect of a lone wolf actor or self-radicalized actor. saying there is though specific credible threat doesn't tell the whole story. that's why you see a lot of security out here today in new york city and in other places
question. are we any safer than we were 15 years ago. i spoke to major rudy giuliani earlier. he take about a mixed bag. safer in some ways. not safer in others. >> george, we're safer when it comes to another terrorist-directed attack. our law enforcement has become pretty good at connecting the overseas-based terrorist directed plot on our homeland. we're in a new environment, however. we have to be prepared against and try to prevent lone wolf style attacks. the self-radicalized act person isil-aq have the ability to reach into our homeland through the internet to recruit and
it requires a whole of government approach. homeland security, aviation security, and the like president that's the new environment. >> donald trump believes a way to keep us safer is to add a new level of screening that he calls extreme vetting. zble should only admit into this country those who share our values and respect our people. ideological screening test. the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the trets we face today. >> what is your response to that? >> george, we actually have a pretty intense form of vetting for refugees, immigrants coming from particular parts of the
program. the president wanted us to admit 10,000 syrian refugees. people fleeing violence and terrorism in syria. and over the last year, we have added a whole bunch of security checks and precautions in vetting refugees. it requires some 18 to 24 months for each individual. we have if place now a lot of security around vetting process. we always evaluate whe threat environment. our vetting, when it comes to refugees is multilaye multilaye. it's thorough the. >> what about the ideological test? >> we always look for indications and we've enhanced our ability to look at this in social media.
radical, violent event. there were some lessons learned recently where we believe we need to ramp up our looking at social media. we always look for indications of extremiextremist, violent na. that's what we do. we're getting better at it every day. we're going the keep working at it. ideology in and of itself, you have to define that a little better. we're determined to root out violent extremism. >> our home sland facing new cyberthreats including from russia. i wanted to ask about that. there's a rising chorus in congress saying the administration should publicly blame russia for hacking the dnc system, hold them accountable. here's ben sass. he said the owe what administration has a reason for not clearly attributing these hacks to russia, it contradicts
they feel that failing co-call out russia now will invite future attacks. >> well, george, the -- there's still an investigation around the dnc hacks. the message i've been sending to state and local e election officials is that there's a range of that are sophisticated. we have to do our best to protect our election system. our election process. and dhs, my department, is in position to provide assistance if they ask for it. we're having that conversation with state and local authorities now. the question of attribution is a complicated one. the investigation into the dnc
>> are we in danger of having a foreign power influence or alter or vote? >> we're concerned about the potential for someone to try to penetrate our election systems to the extent that they're online on the internet. we're very concerned about what happened with the dnc. and it would be very hard to actually alter a ballot count. because our election there's some 9,000 jurisdictions. state and local, involved in the voting process. national, state, and local electio elections. we're concerned to the extent that the presence is online that that be secure. we're out there now telling state and local fiofficials wha the department of homeland security can do to help them.
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what would you do if you were elected about aleppo? >> about? >> al erk ppo? >> and somewhat aleppo? >> you're kidding. >> no. believe me, no one is taking this more seriously than me. i feel horrible.i said aleppo. and, giluilty. it's fair game. i respect the process, for those that believe this is a disqualifier, so be it. >> gary johnson, first big gaffe of the campaign. we'll get to that with "the roundtable." bill kristol, e.j. dionne, the author of why the right went
marsha blackburn. and john heilemann from bloomberg politics and stephanie rawlings-blake. hillary clinton off her peak of an eight-point lead. not a lot of movement in the race. >> you're seeing indicators that people, not surprisingly given the clear choice they've got, have made up their minds and it will be hard to change their minds. you see a couple of things here. where does grow. i was struck in the poll that she's got 79% of the people who approve of president obama. his approval number is high. >> quite high. 58%. it seems hard to believe. >> it's higher than most of the other polls. whether it's 58 or 55, he's positive. she's still got some room to grow there. it's hard to see where trump can pick up but i think the danger
people who are going to jill stein or gary johnson tend now to be coming from her. i don't think trump can win this by building up his vote very highs because i think he's got a ceiling. he's got to push her people off to the third paert candidates or to abstention. she needs to motivate her side. >> that's right. those people with donald trump right now, much more excited about him than hillary clinton supporters are about her. >> that's right. the enthusiasm is on the trump side in this. and clinton supporters are not excited about that race. and think that enthusiasm gap will come into play with this. and it's why you probably will see some erosion to stein and
is happening on the ground in the states. with the state games. basically, when you look at polling, you have to look at the state polling to see what is happening. i was in new hampshire yesterday. trump is doing very well there. and, there is a lot of enthusiasm in that ground game. >> there is a new poll out this morning, a marist poll showing a one-point race. what do you think about and how does hillary clinton prevent the bleeding off to gary johnson and jill stein? >> think trump supporters overstate the enthusiasm gap. i know democrats all over this country that are thrill about the prospect of having secretary clinton as the next president. to the contrary, i meet so many republicans that are ashamed of
with a 2-year-old daughter who said there was no way he could raise his daughter in a world where don't trump is a president. >> bill kristol has not been enthusiastic about donald trump. he's consolidating that republican vote. >> to some degree. i don't think this race is over. the big abc/"washington post" poll is he qualified to be president? 60% say no. you know, 36 pgt of the public thinks -- only 36% thinks you're qualified to be president. on the other hand, people want change. what's hillary clinton's message? that's the thing that strikes me the most. what will she change? i think trump should put up an
to do this. >> up until the deplorable comment the other day, it seemed the clinton campaign was trying to show they were changing. >> look, they are -- there's a consensus among the two campaigns right now. she's ahead. the race is tightening. he has a very, very narrow path to 270 electoral votes. she has a lot of paths. they're lookingve some of those things you're talking about reflect that. they keep hearing it's not enough to just disqualify donald trump. they understand there has to be some degree of personal appeal and positive message. they keep getting drawn into these debates that are mostly negative. >> i don't think she meant to, she wanted to put half of
it was a real sorry/not sorry statement. she doubled down on what she's been saying about donald trump. >> first, any presidential candidate going into a fund raiser should write on their hand, i am a candidate, not a political analyst. you shouldn't analyze the voters. it always gets you into trouble. on the other hand, your point is well taken. she quickly pivoted off that. she ed she moved it to a case that should be made. this is an extreme campaign. the campaign chief is from breitbart. the alt-right is important here. that's the difference with the 47%. romney couldn't go anywhere from that that was constructive. she's trying to move this way. she still should not have said it, and she knows it.
i've got to tell you, when you look at things like corruption, the clinton foundation, her comments about she wouldn't put ground troops in, that is what causes people some concern. and then they say, you think half the country, 50% of the country fits a basket of deplorables, ir redeemable, not america. i think it was so insult iing t so m law enforcement. >> when she insults people, she apologized for it. we never hear that -- >> she did not apologize. she did a half hearted, sorry i got caught. >> she said half the trump sport supporters, not half the country. >> the other half, are these kind of pitiable americans who are suffering, anxious.
there are plenty of people, i don't agree with him, supporting trump because he's the republican nominee. they're willing to forgiver things he's said and done. both candidates, bizarrely, in a competitive election, spend great amount of time on their base and insulting the others. >> i think she apologized relatively in you compare the reluctance of donald trump to apologize about anything. comparatively speaking, it was clean. it's fine the attack your opponent. stay away from attacking the electora electorate. the other thing sthat a problem is that donald trump has attacked her as a bigot over and over again. there was never before this moment, never a time in which you could kind of justify that, where she had said anything that met the dictionary definition of bigoted.
it gives trump a talking point he'll go back to again and again. >> could i say the real cost of this is, if she hadn't said that, we would be talking about donald trump's love affair with vladimir putin or a million other subjects. that's where the news was going. instead, we're talking about this. >> each candidate does a good job every week of trying to lose this campaign. i mean, the other one's says -- >> raising $6 million. this is what is in her heart of hearts. this is what she thinks about people that are out there and fly-over country, if you will. that is why these 50 state polls are so important. >> when you talk about what's in your heart of hearts jourks to look, to your point, about someone who is praising and idolizing putin. we're here having a lively political debate.
end up missing. and no one gets prosecuted for it. to have someone showing you in their heart that is at what happens that consider crew letr leadership, that should affect people. >> others put in difficult positions as well. but donald trump not backing down at all on that praise. >> no, that's amazing. it's pretty di is seeing other conservatives and republicans moving over now. they feel they have to e defend trump. they have to sort of defend his comments on putin. they're rationalizing and defending an anti-american dictator. if the republican party has stood for anything, it's that we're tough in opposing dictators. >> i felt so sorry for giuliani this morning on the show.
>> why does he have to? >> i don't think he was pained at all? >> itd looked it. >> you're being nice to a fellow mayor. you mayors all stick together. >> you keep hearing, they've got the 30,000 e-mails deleted from hillary clinton's server. there's more to come. jeh johnson would not come down and say russia was behind the hack. most intelligence officials believe they were. and with the electronic voting and number of states that don't have a paper ballot as a backup. this is a scary thing. the one thing, i think sub staptively, it's a horrible thing he's doing with putin. politically, it's also harmful because now the democrats have an argument that if something comes out of russia, to discredit her, this becomes a story about why are the
interfere in our election, which is a conversation she would very much like to have. >> john heilemann. >> what about the clinton foundation relationship with frank geestra. >> there's a difference between allegations and evidence. >> there's a lot of evidence on wrong doing of the clinton foundation. >> we're likely to see it come up at the debates. i want to you can that about that. we saw a lots of attention. strong ratings. what did you take away from that looking ahead to the debates? >> i think that there's a -- to the extent that in the moment, it seemed as trump had a better night. then as people started to focus on substance, the clinton cam pain was able to get that conversation back where it wanted to be. i do think that what we'll see is a different kind of
where trump is pressed to sustain a set of arguments that will be more driven by policy and substance. she's got to worry about his ability to bluster his way through anything. and obviously, the stlax be high for both of them. i think that if it becomes a matter of substance. he's in a one-on-one environment. he's never been in that situation. she'll have a strodv >> how aggressive should she be? >> it's tricky. she needs to be aggressive enough to challenge trump when he says things that are not true. but she's also selling herself. this egos to bill appoint. she needs to give voters a comfortable place to go to oppose trump. she's got a tricky path. what was fascinating in the wake of this debate and the critique of matt lauer from democrats, we have spent about 40 years
and saying the media is biased. suddenly you have an take here that puts the debate moderators on a little bit of notice. particularly on the e question of fact-checking during the debate. before this, they might have been reluctant to do it. after the reviews he got, i think the pressure is reversed. >> and the clinton camp, they said it was not a great night. but might be good for the long run. do you agree? >> because they can spin the notion that matt lauer is a right-winger. you have a weak candidate, you blame the media. on the republican side we've done that. we've done it -- totally, and lost those elections. i think the fact that the left fwlamd media, shows trump doesn't know anything about foreign policy. i really think is abhorrent. but in the evening, he looked
she does and does not know about foreign policy. if she got briefings or not. great clarity on what would be confidential or the header but couldn't remember if "c" was for a for a paragraph. >> and you have donald trump who knows more than any general in the world. >> he would listen to the generals. >> which one is it? >> he wouldn't predetermine that he's not going to put ts >> national security is the number one issue.
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