tv This Week With George Stephanopoulos ABC September 4, 2016 9:00am-10:01am EDT
starting right now on "this week" with george st stephanopoulos. sprint to the finish. >> mr. president, i call you a friend. >> and that fiery speech when he returned. >> you can call it whatever the hell you want. >> dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours. that is not how it work. and for hillary clinton, record unfavorability. and still more e-mail questions. >> that is just one more clinton lie. >> our exclusive interviews with both sides. vice presidential nominee tim kaine. and trump's campaign manager, kellyanne conway. plus --
martha raddatz is on the front line spps the cold war on the verge of reignites? from abc news, this is "this week." here, now, co-anchor martha raddatz. >> good morning. it's labor day week end. game on. counting the days. 65 to the election. to the first debate. just 19 to the first earl hi voting. but for all the sound and fury of the summer, we're more spring. hillary clinton cautiously nursing a small but consistent lead. persistent questions about her truth worthiness making it hard for her to pull away. and donald trump still stuck around 40%. still wavering between speaking forcefully to his base and reaching out to undecided voters. donald trump at an amp american church in te troit saturday, getting an opportunity to
reading from notes. speaking softly. >> i fully understand that the african-american community has suffered from drim mags. and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right. >> reporter: contrast that to this, last month. unscripted, before a fired up nearly all-white crowd. >> i'm asking for the vote of every single african-american your schools are no good. you have no jobs. what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: earlier this week, another tale of two tones. acting presidential in mexico. speaking diplomatically. >> the bond between our two countries is deep and sincere. >> reporter: but hours late nor arizona. >> i am going to create a new special deportation task force. >> reporter: so how did that message play?
asked voters for a one-word reaction. 67% had a negative one. just 27% were positive. but hillary clinton has her own image problems. our new abc news/"washington post" poll showing 56% of americans now see her unfavorably. up six points in three weeks. she's still avoiding questions. holding just one public event this week. she hasn't held news conference in 274 days. let's bring in the democratic vice presidential nominee, senator tim kaine of virginia. senator kaine, the fbi released more documents about the investigation into hillary clinton's e-mails and a summary of her interview with the fbi. she didn't sooem to know what some classification marx meant. she said she relied on staff to
archived e-mails were deleted even after they were requested. all she's said is that it was a mistake to use a personal server. don't the american people deserve batter explanation? >> and think they've gotten one. to do to what you just said, the reason these materials are being made public is that hillary clinton said i want the public to see them. when congress asked the fbi, give us your notes, hillary clinton said, that's great, b the notes demonstrate in significant detail why the fbi chose not to go forward with any addition proceeding. she did make a mistake. by decides she wanted to use one device rather than multiple devices. she's apologized for it. said it was a mistake. and she's learned from it. but these notes, which hillary urged be made public, demonstrate why the fbi saw no need for additional proceedings.
contrast the disclosure with a donald trump, who won't even allow the american public to see his tax returns. >> let's go back to hillary clinton. this is an issue that americans care about. a majority of americans do not trust her. largely because of this e-mail issue. 66% do not trust her in the latest fox news poll. our abc/"washington post" poll shows a majority, 55% disapproved of the decision not the indict her. isn't this an issue she needs to explain? >> that's why she asked them to be made public. when you read the materials and the articles about them, they go into detail why the fbi concluded there was no need for additional proceedings. i contrast that with a donald
shouldn't she? >> i have to disagree we you. i have sat with her while she's answered questions. answered questions about what she did and why. she said, look, by using one device, i made a mistake. i apologize for it. i've learned something. i wouldn't do it again. i want all the facts to come out. i'll talk to congressional committees. we'll provide the materials. fbi, release the materials to the public. we have a trump who won't release his tax returns. he has openly encouraged russia to engage in cyberhacking to try to find more e-mails or materials. the cyberattack on the dnc was likely done by russia. a president was impeached and had to resign over an take on the dnc during a presidential election in 1972. this is serious business. contrast the hillary situation,
an take that is being encouraged by donald trump on the dnc by russia, similar to what led to the resignation of a president 30 years ago. >> senator kaine, i want to ask you one specific question about hillary clinton's e-mails. let me go through a few specifics. from the beginning of this, secretary clinton said she never sent or received any material marked classified. we learned earlier in summer, that is not true. we did learn this week from her couldn't even identify the "c" classification in an e-mail and consistently could not identify classified information in e-mails the fbi showed her. how could she make such definitive statements if she couldn't recognize classified material? >> remember, my recollection of the jim comey testimony before congress was there were e-mails
information that were improperly marked. when she received it, the material that is classified, which is supposed to be flagged, was in in instance, improperly labeled. i'm on the armed services and foreign relations committees. we do look at classified material. we look at so much material. unless it's specifically pulled out and identified, it's difficult to know sometimes whether a statement or a paragraph is classified or not. unless it is identified in the way it should be, it's difficult to know whether particular material is classified. >> after decades in government. i do want to move on to foreign poll spip you're giving a major foreign policy speech this week, emphasizing u.s. relationships with russia. i was over in that region with u.s. pilot where is the tepgs is escalating. hillary clinton was in charge
russia. can you make an argument that it worked, given what happensed in crimea and syria? >> i don't think you can make an argument that the relationship with russia is in a good place right now. that's not the u.s.s' fault. that's vladimir putin's. they violated an agreement by moving into the acetia they've destabilized the eastern ukrai ukraine. donald trump was not aware that putin had gone into crimea as recently as two weeks ago. he had the to be remind that putin went in and took over c crimea two years ago. this is one of a number of troublingen instances.
>> i want to go back to the -- i want to talk about secretary clinton. poland's minister of foreign affairs said the reset was a weakness. suggested that nato is not as strong of an alliance as it was and that gave russia opportunity to act. they're talking about secretary clinton. >> i don't believe in a russia went into georgia when president bush was in office before president obama was elected. he went into crimea during the obama administration. but to try to say that's the u. u.s.' fault is ridiculous. donald trump is banning journalists from outlets. he's taking lessons from putin
of anybody in the united states is ridiculous. >> let's talk about relationships with the press. you talk about donald trump. secretary clinton has not held a press conference in 274 days. you argue that she's talked to the press on the campaign trail. our campaign reporters and others say she doesn't answer that many questions. is this going to change? >> martha, she's had hundreds of interviews in the last year. i have to push back on the notion she hasn't done a press conference. she gave a speech to the national association of black journalists. she did a press conference there. members of mainstream media outlets, television networks, asked her questions. we're about to switch into a fa phase of dam pains where we'll be on planes and the press will be on the planes with us. we're not banning press outlets from covering public events.
the trail, she's talking to the press. hundreds of interviews. i'm doing the same. the labor day to election day stretch that will ramp up more. we're not a campaign that is acting like putin and other dictators and banning press outlets from attending public events. that's un-american. that's what donald trump is doing. >> swoe can expect a press conference, yes or no? >> um, there's been one in the last month, and you're going to see hillary very, very accessible to the will be between now and november 8th. >> thank you very much for joining us, senator kaine. >> you bet, martha. take care. now a response from the republican side. donald trump's campaign manager, kellya kel kellyanne conway. good morning. you heard tim kaine. talking about trump's relationship to putin and the press.
senator kaine take that tack. you're asking him questions that the american people want answered. 17,448 e-mails were not turned over to the inspector general. that's in addition to the 33,000 that had been delighted. as you very correctly pointed out, if you see the "c" at the classification of national security information, folks know what that means. certainly a former united states senator, former first lady, and certainly the sitting secretary of state should know polling data that you showed earlier tells the the tale. hillary clinton is having a hard time being accepted as a truthful and honest candidate. vis a vis the american people. i watch secretary clinton. excuse me, senator kaine and others who defend them, when you ask them a question about them, it take them about ten words to
that's not how you answer a question. she, they want this election to be about donald trump. the american people want this election to be about honesty and trust worthineworthiness. i thought the fbi revelations on friday were astonishing. >> in that train of thought. let's go to donald trump. because that's who you're here to talk about. i want to tie up loose ends after mr. trump's speech on imgags. he said the priority will be criminals and those two have that amounts to between 5 and 6.5 million people that he says will be quickly removed. the cost estimate for that is between there are 51 and $67 billion. how will he manage such a massive operation? and who will pay for it? >> he'll manage it the way it should have been all along. by enforcing the law and relying on the law enforcement officers and the i.c.e. officers to do their job.
hamstrung in their ability to do their job. he says he'll triple the amount of i.c.e. agents. if you look at everything he said in that plan, it goes beyond that. stopping the job and benefit magn magnet. securing the the southern border. building that wall. having mexico pay for it. at least you have a presidential candidate putting fourth a ten-point plan. i thought it was hear senator kaine tell you that the trump campaign is baning the media when they haven't had a prez conference in 264 days. the media cover the events. they turn on the tv every day and see donald trump taking the case to the voters the. >> back to immigration. he said there will be no amnesty. all immigrants here illegally will be subject to deportation. will they be subject to deportation and removal or will
going immediately. we don't know what that number is. we hear anything from 1 million to 2 million. of course, he has also said this being the most generous country to immigrants in the world, that if you want to come to america, and imfwrat here legally, you should do that. >> and if they're not criminals. he's talked about the criminals. if they aren't criminals, do they have to go? >> he has said that you should stand in line and immigrate legally. once we do things that have never been done. >> >> you're saying he has to go. >> what i'm saying is people can read the ten-point plan. >> that doesn't clear it up. >> correct. but, no, he also said, once you enforce the law, once you get rid of the criminals, once you triple the number of i.c.e. agents, secure the southern border. once you turn off the jobs and
we don't know where we'll be. we don't know who will be left. where they live who they are. gnat's the point. we have actually never tried this. he'll rescind those amnesties and try to work with the congress. he's trying to solve a problem. he's said, he wanted to work with law enforcement and immigration officials to actually see what we have left after everything else is done. >> one more thing to clear up. mr. trump said in his meeting with mexico's president, they wall. mexico's president says he told trump mexico will not pay for the wall. is the president lying? mgts they disagree on that conversation. i think mr. trump chair fid in arizona later that day that he'll build that wall. he's been consistent on that since day one. and he'll have mexico pay for it. his position has never changed on this side of the border or that.
productive conversation. we were very happy to accept the invitation to have mr. trump there, to talk ant not just ill league ill immigration, but drug, human trafficking, and the sovereignty of each nation that is protected once you have a border in place. a prosperous and safe mexico benefits us. a prosperous and safe united states benefits mexico. we look forward to continuing that conversation with the mexican president. we were showed the leadership that a would-be president shows. >> let's move to the ground game and the past to 016. you have said pennsylvania is part of your campaign's path to the white house. you're still down seven point there is. lots of people were turned off by trump's aggressive, angry tone. can you win this race without pennsylvania? >> we can. but we're taking pennsylvania
elections it's gone democratic. we understand that. we know that mr. trump's message has been resonant among a lot of the working -- a lot of the works who feel like they've been left behind. >> can you win without pennsylvania? >> yes, we e can. absolutely. we have several paths to victory. i would point out the growing number of stories just this week about the clinton campaign, how she's being told just prepare for a landslide. run out the clock. don't go talk to the voters. she's tour between hollywood, the hamptons, martha's vineyard, raising money, ignoring the voters, thinking hey, i've got this one. we're taking every state seriously. we're making investments this week with absentee ballot outreach. ads in 11, 12 states. pennsylvania is one of them. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me.
both deeply unpopular. who has the upper hand? i'll check in with the pollsters. plus, it could be the greatest foreign policy challenge facing the next commander in chief. i took to the skies for a must-see view of the growing threat from russia. hey, jesse. who are you? i'm vern, the orange money retirement rabbit from voya. yep, vern from voya. why are you orange? that's a little weird. really? that's the weird part in this scenario? look, orange money represents the money you put away for retirement. save a little here and there, and over time, your money could multiply. see? ah, ok. so, why are you orange? funny. see how voya can help you get organized at voya.com. bp wind farms are monitored 24/7 at our remote operations center,
g of approaching weather. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. because safety is never being satisfied. this car is traveling over 200 miles per hour. to win, every millisecond matters. and thousands of miles away. with the help of at&t, red bull racing can share critical information about every inch of the car from virtually anywhere. brakes are getting warm. confirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. understood, brake bias back 2 clicks. giving them the agility to have speed & precision. because no one knows & like at&t. can't see it. can't taste it. but there's so much more to it. here's how benefiber? works.
upport digestive health. the prebiotic fiber in benefiber? nourishes them... and what helps them, helps you. clear, taste-free, benefiber?. bp drilling teams train in virtual reality simulators in here, so we're better prepared for any situation out there. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. donald trump is the first republican i can remember who is explicitly saying to the african-american community, things can be better but not with democrats in charge. if he has the courage to go to places like chicago and say it, i think he'll get far more votes in the black community than than any republican in modern time. >> a bold claim.
african-american voters support trump. how does he compare on to other republican nominees? romd reagan won 14% of african-american voters in 1980. it's been downhill since then. john mccain
got just 1% in 008. and in 201, mitt romney, just 4%. so where does trump stand after all this outreach? you'll hear directly from
you know your
heart loves megared omega-3s... but did you know your eyes, your brain, and your joints really love them too? introducing megared advanced 4in1... omega-3 power of two regular fish oil pills... so give your body mega support with megared advanced 4in1. with megared advanced 4in1. (wolves howling) when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth and fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum-tum-tum-tum-tums
talk of discrimination and lack of opportunity. is it working? trump needs to do better lack and latino voters, especially in pennsylvania. the key to a trump victory. we have been tracking the vote gnat state all along from blue collar supporters in the west to suburban swing sfloerts the east. and now the minority vote nrs the state's largest city. north philadelphia, in all its rich diversity. this is clinton country. at l do you trust hillary clinton? >> trust. define trust. >> reporter: it's not that she has to worry about lots of voters here supporting her rival. and how about donald trump? >> bad boy. >> reporter: with the candidate in single difficults among black and latino voters, it takes guts to wear this. >> our country is getting lost. in so many ways. >> reporter: daphne is a proud republican.
>> immigration policy definitely affects us in the job area. they act like black people don't want to work. it's like let any old body and everybody including terrorists or whoever is coming, we don't know who is coming through. >> reporter: but goggins is the exception. donald trump reached out and said -- >> we're not buying it. we're not buying it. >> i don't know. i guess i'm voting for her because i'm not going to vote for trump. her. >> reporter: it's that lack of enthusiasm for clinton that keeps her strategists up at night. why? because the philadelphia area provides pretty much the only reliable vote democrats have in this state. with a deep urban-rural divide. a couple of months ago, i went to western pennsylvania to see whether trump could turn out his base there. probably yes e. >> he's no holds barred. he's straight to the point.
pennsylvania. democrats could end trump's dreams of the presidency here. but they need that fire wall of urban minority turnout. that got clinton through the primaries. who are you supporting in the presidential race? >> uh, hillary clinton. i think she's going to be better than donald trump. >> reporter: and you'll definitely vote? >> yes, i'm definitely voting. >> reporter: one down. many more votes to get out. so let's take deeper dive into interviews and a bigger picture look at this race. joining us now, abc news contributor republican pollster krin tin soltis anderson and democratic pollster, margie omero. welcome. kristen, let's start with you. polls don't appear to show minorities are really warming up to trump. his national poll numbers snuck
the campaign talked about the hidden trump vote not represented in the polls the sit credible? >> i think it's pretty overblown. if you look at reports of campaigns over decades, people point to things like large turnouts at rallies and say, we've got a lot more going on here than the polls suggest. there are more supporters and more momentum. there's no way to have evidence that the missing trump voter does exist. we can't really by four or five points in national polls, it's hard to see that big of a swing. >> you >> there may be a difference between live calls and polls. perhaps social bias where people don't want to say to a live person that they're voting for trump. that's not a secret weapon. that's a sign of real weakness.
clinton. a donald trump to be more unpopular are republicans than clinton is among democrats. this is a weakness, not a strength. >> let's talk about the high unfavorability of hillary clinton. you told me a month ago, it's yet to be determined whether clinton had improved favorability numbers or whether it was just a post convention bump. our poll this week showed her favorability numbers are worse than they have ever been and voters i spoke to said they'll vo don't necessarily trust her. does it matter at this point? or can trump keep pounding on that and do mer more harm? >> well, somebody -- one of them is going to win with likely with some unfavorables. no disrespect to gary johnson. he doesn't seem to be taking off. you see now even in a regular election, which this is clearly not. candidates become more unfavorable as they get closer to election day. because ads are going on. you have debates.
day. and, i think there's more openness for clinton's favorabilities to move. given how they were after the convention. given that she's been net favorable up until this past year while at the same "washington post"/abpoll, trump has always been net unfavorable. >> should trump keep highlighting this mistrust of hillary clinton? >> i think absolutely. she has a lead that is commanding, but in some ways fragile. who are choosing between clinton or trump and who really don't like either of them, it's a fragile place to be if you're supposed to be ahead by four or five points. even after that great convention where they got this bounce that's already evaporated and she's hitting record-high unfavorables, that's not the place you want to be. >> let's do what we did last time again. who would win the election if it were held today?
held today. i go back to the same map we had obama versus mitt romney in 201. i don't make many changes. the biggest is flipping ohio back into clinton's camp. >> you would have to do gymnastics to suggest that trump would win. she's clearly ahead in battleground states. even if you give him state where is they're tied or clinton sup one or two, nevada, north carolina, she still wins. >> great. so great to see both of you. we'll have you both back soon for regular checkups. >> okay, thanks. up next, our powerhouse "roundtable" is standing by with insights and nail sis of where the race stands. later, we have seen russia buzzing u.s. warships intimidating nato alice and inching us closer to conflict. i travel to the front lines for
new threat that you won't want to miss. mary buys a little lamb. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of at&t, and security that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever. giving them the agility to be at&t. we could brag about what's in new light & fit yogurt. but we'd rather talk about what's not in it. like no artificial colors or preservative ingredients. and with 70 calories... maybe we're kind of bragging?
i was in shock when my dentist was explaining to me the acidity of foods and what they can do to your teeth. thinning of the teeth and leading to being extremely yellow would probably gross me out! my dentist recommended pronamel. it can help protect enamel from acid erosion. my mouth feels really fresh and clean and i stuck with it. i really like it. it gives me a lot of confidence.
you know your heart loves megared omega-3s... but did you know your eyes, your brain, and your joints really love them too? introducing megared advanced 4in1... just one softgel delivers the omega-3 power of two regular fish oil pills... so give your body with megared advanced 4in1. we wanted to mark an important moment this morning. tens of thousands of people from around the world are celebrating at the vatican. in st. peter's square, as pope francis makes mother ter reen is a is a saint in the catholic
the nobel peace prize-winning nun worked in the slums of india, caring for the poorest of the poor. after the ceremony in st. teresa's honor, pope francis hosted over 1,000 poor and homeless people for pizza at the vatican. back to politics with our "roundtable" after a quick break. it just kind of like, wiped everything clean. my teeth are glowing. they look great. x cleaning. 6x whitening. and at two weeks, superior sensitivity relief to the leading sensitivity toothpaste. i actually really like the two steps! crest hd step 1 cleans, step 2 whitens. it's the whole package. no one's done this. crest - healthy, beautiful smiles for life. hi, i'm dominique wilkins. when you have type 2 diabetes, like me, there's a moment of truth.
better than the leading branded pill, which didn't get me to my goal. victoza? works with your body to lower blood sugar in three ways-- in the stomach, the liver and the pancreas. and while it isn't for weight loss, victoza? may help you lose some weight. non-insulin victoza? comes in a pen and is taken once a day. (announcer) victoza? is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take victoza? if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to victoza? or any of its ingredients. stop taking victoza? and call your doctor right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck or if you develop any allergic symptoms including itching, rash, or difficulty breathing. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis. so, stop taking victoza? and call your doctor right away
taking victoza? with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. the most common side effects are headache, nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting. side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. now's the time for a better moment of proof. ask your doctor about victoza?. you know your heart loves megared omega-3s... but did you know your eyes, your brain, and your joints introducing megared advanced 4in1... just one softgel delivers the omega-3 power of two regular fish oil pills... so give your body mega support with megared advanced 4in1. with megared advanced 4in1. light & fit greek crunch yogurt
light & fit crunch. ? ah, my poor mouth breather. allergies? stuffy nose? can't sleep? enough. take that. a breathe right nasal strip of course. imagine just put one on and pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than allergy medicine alone. so you can breathe, and sleep. better than a catnap. breathe right. and we're back now with the powerhouse "roundtable." abc news chief political analyst matthew dowd. abc news contributor and senior espn writer lz granderson. white house don't julie pace and
steve inskeep. i want to start with clinton's fbi interview that was released this week. you heard tim kaine basically see, nothing to see, she's made a mistake. let's move on. is it damaging? is this week more damaging? >> a shoutout to st. mother s teresa. great day. i think it's really damaging. it feeds two as you noted in material ler segments, the majority of the country doesn't trust her. this only adds to the problem in this. the second problem is it looks like it's just typical washington, d.c., status quo, krupgs. they only do it for themselves. in it for themselves. they're not transparent. both things are not helpful in a race that though she has a lead, is fund mentally going to be very close until the very end. >> stooe, i want to ask you,
afternoon before a holiday. will it resonate with voters? >> it has resonated over time. the clinton campaign is frustrated that we in the media talk about it so much. in your sprir with kellyanne conway, she made a very perceptive point. she said clienten's people want emp to be thinking about trump. and then change to try to talk about clinton. this is an election where each campaign seems to prefer that voters thinking about the other guy. that's a strange place. >> julie, one more thing on the e-mails. the state department is going to release secretary clinton's schedule. that will put a focus on the clinton foundation. if anything was going on between the clinton foundation and the state department getting special access. do you know what that will show? >> it's important to know that
this under pressure. right now, we have about half of her detailed schedules. this will be another fairly substantial period if you look at the information we do have, it shows some overlap between the meetings she had that she had most discretion over and clinton foundation toners. >> lz, let's move to the unfavorability. they're ratings. our polls shore clinton's rating is at an all-time low. now on par with donald trump at 59% and 60% respectively. is the campaign doing enough to try to solve that problem? >> they think what they're doing is not adding to the problem. i speak with people inside her circle. one of the reason this case don't like her in large groups is because she doesn't play well
position. it will make her look more staged, more strategic and less authentic. it's a purposeful strategy. that would on the add to unfavorabilities. the e-mail thing, is just terrible, in my opinion. you start looking at the rationale. matthew and i were joking. she thought the "c" was to help her put things in alphabetical order. but there's no "a," no "b," and no "d." >> and she's been at it for decades >> she is jumged, i have to say, all of the controversy surrounding donald trump and her, she's judged on a ginger rogers standard. the bar is so low for him. ginger rogers, she did everything that fred astaire did but backwards in heels. you let his contradiction to the attorney general in florida drop, both of them have
do they each need to solve their likability and trust problems? yes. more pontly, think they need to solve them. in hillary clinton get es leked with the ma jjority of the couny not liking her, it will be very difficult to govern. >> either one of them. >> either one. >> when you look forward four year, that's our next story. we'll wait on that. let's talk about trump's trip to mexico, steve. his visit to mexico. he was didn't here there. down in mexico, so soft and came back here and just ripped right back into that immigration plan. i want to say here, though, i've watched diplomats over the years. sometimes they stay something very different overseas than back home. >> sure. that is not too surprising. there's a little bit of insight we got about donald trump when
he said if i spoke like i did to the president of mexico to the peek people in arizona, they would have been bored. they would have fallen asleep. who are you playing to there? it raises a question that every candidate has to face. >> does he look like a washington politician, julie? >> i think sthat the biggest risk for donald trump. if you look at his immigration speech, yes, he did clarify mexico pay for it. other pieces about deportations. he left open in way that most politicians often do, the toughest part of his issue, what you do with the people that would be left here who are not legal, do not commit crimes. that is why the problem is so difficult. donald trump casts himself as someone who will tackle the hard problems. tell people the solutions even if they're not what they want to
or no answer. >> lz, your thoughts on his trip down there. different here, down there. too tough on immigrants. how does he attract the minority vote? >> i don't think he will. i think he's trying to make white people feel better about voting for him. white voters don't want to vote for a racist. if he doesn't look like a racist, they can vote for him. last three week seems appealing to plaque voters. he's in a black church. there clapping and swaying. they go, look, he's not a racist. he's there with black people. >> donald trump could bet the lowest level of nonwhite support. the other interesting thing is hillary clinton could win this election with the lowest level of white support of anybody
both sides are appealing to a certain segment of the country dm a certain way to get 43 or 44% of the vote and another, as another part of this thing, that is not going to go well as we go through this and in the aftermath of this e legs. >> that's also part of just the party situation as well. democrats have been hemorrhaging white voters for decade. since knicksen, minorities have been fleeing the republican party. >> i have to give w. bush in 2000 and 2004 set new standards on the latino vote. unlike what the trump people said, it's the first time that a republican has gone to a black church. whites is are problems for democrats. nonwhites are problems for republicans. >> steve, moderators chose thn week. i will say, yes, i was chosen as a moderator. just to get that out there.
>> first and last round of applause i'll get on that one. steve, can the debates reset this race? >> no. i mean, they don't. they don't. >> wait a minute. >> over time, you look over time, polls don't necessarily change that much. there will be drama. it will be a speck tack toll watch. i'll be watching you and listening to your questions. >> hope it's not a spectacle. sflit will be maybe a spectacle not in a bad way. it that everybody or a lot of people sit down and watch these people and think about them. but tease are two swloijs have been in the public eye for decades. so one night is not necessarily going to make a difference unless one of them -- something horrible happens. >> there's probably not been a debate quite like this one. >> singular debates have effects. debates over all don't. singular debates have an effect.
upside for donald trump, potential. and a huge downside for hillary clinton. >> i think it's the opposite. >> i'm not saying he's going to win. >> if she can make him look incompetent rg because of his lack of knowledge of poll circumstances particularly foreign pollpolicy, that will s people. >> if you were tomd trump, what would you do approaching the debates? the has right now? >> i think his biggest weakness in a general election is that a lot of voters don't see him as presidential. his base is loyal to him through and through. he needs to go up there and look like someone that people can imagine for four years sitting in the oval office. ? read a briefing book before the debate. that would be my advice. >> crust read, period. >> all right, all right, all right. enough, enough, enough.
the world's top leaders at the g-20 summit in china, where he's expected to go one on one with russian president vladimir putin. the meeting comes as america's allies in eastern europe face an increasingly aggressive russia. it's a threat our next commander in chief will face. and we took to the skies over estonia for a first-hand look at what the u.s. military is doing
>> here we go. >> reporter: taking off in an f-15 vertically. a backseat ride with the u.s. air force. >> here we go. in the gs. >> reporter: we're flying along the newest front line in a reignited cold war, where tensions with russia have steadily escalated. russia not afraid to flex its muscles. >> we have two >> reporter: the u.s. training with its european partners. >> our main goal is to try to keep the enemy as far away from what we're trying to protect as we can. >> reporter: lii'm one of the t bad guys. >> we're going i.d. you, tarlt you, make you go away before you can get to what we're trying to
>> an air to air missile. a good chance of success. >> reporter: not a real missile. they're trying to replicate real threats. my pilot, major ben leistma, call sign trap has been training for 14 years. >> we're prefired handle that. lucky to this point, we have skated clean. we're going go inverted. there we go. roll in left. >> reporter: back in the 360-degree turn. the dog fight is on. >> fight's on. >> we'll try to target them. they will more than likely target us first and kill us out. >> group bull's eye. 2-0. >> reaper 6 is dead. >> we're dead? >> we got shot. >> reporter: at times, pulling more than 6 gs.
air to hair coair combat. moments later, we hear from the russians. real russian pilots. over the radio. a warning, territory, territory. the russian pilots cautioning the americans about crossing their border. the americans denied that, calling this just another provocative tactic. the mission ending without incident. this american show of force as estonia's american-educated president was quick to tell me -- >> when the world cease aggression, you have to have real exercises. >> what do you think the sbept is? >> there's though rhyme or reason or logic to it, other than perhaps to keep everyone off balance. i'm more afraid of a stupid accident. this is why being in nato is very different than not being in nato.
expect should they do something. that's a big difference. >> reporter: one big reason that exercises like these are continue. for more, let's bring in retired colonel steve ganyard. must have brought back memories. >> you're making me jealous. >> let's talk about what is happening. nato aircraft are conducting up to five intercepts every day of these russian aircraft in baltic sea. back in april, they came dangerously close to u.s. warships there. the russians are about to start their own massive exercises. what are they up to? >> a couple of things. putin knows that the baltics are weak. it allows him to flex his military muscles in ways that appear to rush yarn nabls. it covers for a weak economy. by tying down nato in the north, they provide a smoke screen for
ukraine this fall. >> ben hodges, the commander of the u.s. army in europe said russia could conquer the baltic states quicker than we could get there to defend them. with all the military power of nato, why are the countries vulnerable? >> you look at the trer rain. saw how flat it was. that's optimum tang terrain. it would take tooon reinforce the baltic. the russians could be through and retake the balkans in three days or less. air pow sir the only deter rent that nato has to deter a russian incursion into the baltics. i think put. will make sure that people won't want to call his bluff. the russian people will buy it.
at this point is a bigger bet than mr. putin would be willing to take. >> is this connected to the election? >> i think what we see in the battle ix are more appealing to what is going on in china. >> thank you very much. always great to see you. i know you were jealous about that flight. >> yes, i was.
. the survivor of a terrifying car jacking now sharing his experience and hopes others will learn from his ordeal and not fine themselves in similar situations. >> and a new group is looking in collected in ohio. what that means for those of you battling student debt. and first, a live look outside from the homestead falls area. you can see the blue skies in the trees up ahead. the gorgeous weather weekend counsel continuings and -- weekend continues and happens to be a labor day weekend. i'm nick foley with janessa webb and you walk outside issue you had the cool start and it's warming up nicely. again, another gorgeous day as this weekend continues.