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terror. mourners in paris honoring the dead. u2 among those paying tribute. around the world, shows of support. >> [ speaking french ]. >> at home, family and friends mourn the american college student killed in the massacre. >> this is really happening. this is happening. there's nothing i can really do to bring her back. >> president obama calls this an attack on the civilized world. we're live in paris with the investigation. the stories of survival and a message of hope. today, sunday, november 15th, 2015. >> announcer: from nbc news, this is a special edition of
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erica hill live from paris, and harry smith live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> welcome to to this special edition of "today." i'm erica hill in paris. my colleague, harry smith, sheinelle jones and dylan dreyer are in new york. good morning, harry. >> a story rapidly developing two days after the attacks that stunned the world. >> harry, that is right. it is developing. it is changing. paris, understandably, still in shock this morning. in some way, it almost feels like it is sinking in on this sunday morning. tourist sites remain closed, thousands of french troops in the streets this morning. investigators chasing down leads across europe. we are following all of that for you from paris. >> here are the latest facts and figures we can give you this morning. french authorities now say at least 129 people, including an american college student, were killed. more than 350 were wounded.
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many critically. french officials have just identified one of the attackers as a local known to authorities for his links to islamic radicalism. several of his family members were detained overnight. the fbi is sending a team of agents to paris to assist with the investigation and relay any intelligence to the bureau back home. the nfl is ramping up security at today's games. as a warning for fans heading out to the stadium today. erica, back to you. >> harry, thank you. we want to begin with the latest on this investigation, including the hunt for an accomplice in these attacks. nbc's chief global correspondent bill neely joins us with that part of the investigation. goods morn good morning. >> the city marking the first of three days of national mourning. for the police, this is a man hunt. it's now clear that someone, maybe more than one person, got away. they found a car with several
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rifles inside on the outskirts of paris. guns that they believe were involved in these attacks. the police are also aware of a new video that appears to show the first moments of the deadliest attack. >> reporter: friday night and the band is playing to a sellout crowd when suddenly, gunfire. a band member immediately scrambling to safety. 89 people were dead by the time the gunmen were attacked. french swat teams storming the concert hall. a photo journalist working for "time" magazine capturing the gun battle outside. bullets ricochetting in the street, before the three terrorists were found dead. it was the final act of a night of horror. of mass murder. massacre after massacre, not seen in paris since world war ii.
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bodies on the streets, terror in the air. isis claimed the attacks. seven gunmen wore identical suicide vests. one identified as ismail m., born 1985. known to authorities but no record of terrorist activities. today, they came to pay tribute to the dead. 15 at this restaurant and bar, where people were enjoying the start of the weekend. when charlotte thought she would die. >> there were huge gunshots. >> reporter: among the dead, nohemi gonzalez, 23 and in paris for a semester. it began with an explosion at a soccer game. millions heard it live on tv. in the next 30 minutes, nearly 500 were shot and either injured or killed. 19 dead at this bar. the rock concert was hit four minutes later.
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young people shot fleeing, stepping over bodies. one woman clinging to a window ledge. an injured bad being dragged away. we spoke to helen from new orleans who was injured and cray cradled her dying friend. the gunmen targeted wheelchairs who were near the stage. many here, stunned. >> i'm really sad now. shocked then, shocked now. i hope tomorrow i'll get angry. >> reporter: red, white and blue from the freedom tower in new york to landmarks in sydney, rio and around the world. they displayed the national colors of a country that feels itself at war. it is in mourning today. >> remember, isis claim third-degree athis attack.
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seven bodies were found. intelligence officials believe there may be a specialist bomb maker who constructed the suicide belts relatively sophisticated. one other thing, five arrests in brussels, the capital of belgium. it's clear this is a network and plot that extends beyond french. >> bill, nice to have you in person. thank you. as bill pointed out, all evidence points to isis in the attack. the group has claimed responsibility. the french government said that group is, in fact, behind it, as well. the terror group, however, isn't known for operations outside of north africa and the middle east. so could this signal a new front for isis? let's bring in nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel. good morning. >> goods morning. as bill neely was describing, people here at the french ministry of justice believe this was a larger plot. it was not just the seven or
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were actually involved in the attack, that there was a wider international conspiracy and it spread across borders. arrests have been made in belgium. investigations in greece and sush serbia. >> reporter: experts say the attacks on paris would have taken weeks to plan. simple, but well organized. the attacks prove that isis was being underestimated. >> these are only seven or eight people and, yet, they've inflicted hundreds killed and wounded and dominated the global discussion. >> reporter: how did isis, a group that came to be known to the outside world last year when it took over parts of iraq and syria, manage to terrorize a world capital? it appears, based on early clues, that the mass migration from the middle east to europe may have played a part. one of the attackers identified by french authorities by the
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partial name, abdul akbaq b, appears to have arrived in greece and registered, as thousands do every day, as a refugee. a second factor, the large muslim population in france, of which a small minority is sympathetic to the migrant cause. >> europe has no internal control of borders. very anemic external control of borders. millions of refugees flooding into europe. unassimilated muslim populations. europe is in trouble. >> reporter: the trouble, experts agree, is not going away. intelligence agencies here in france and elsewhere are asking for more resources. as the threats grow, intelligence agencies are going to ask for more people and more money than they have now. whether or not the lack of resources was the reason that the murders in paris went undetected is a big part of the investigation now. >> i think we have failed, of course.
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it's a matter of fact. >> reporter: citizens of this city and all of us will have to get used to, in the age of a glebl global war with isis. this could be the terrible new normal. >> one of the most chilling aspects here being investigated is whether there was a real link to the migration crisis. there are still thousands a day leaving the middle east. most going through turkey, heading their way to europe, trying to get here. many of them, most of them, are absolutely refugees, people looking for a better life. there are few controls over that population movement. officials in france and other countries in europe are wondering if isis managed to slip into the wave of suffering, the wave of migration. >> richard engel, thank you. as we mentioned, in the u.s., the nfl saying it will step up security at games today in light of the paris stadium attack. the league is also urging fans
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not to bring bags. if they must, make sure they're small and clear. this comes as the fbi sends a small team to paris to gather more intelligence. sean joyce is a former deputy director at the fbi. he joins us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, erica. >> give us a sense. you have been in the situation rooms. you have been going through the intelligence in situations like this in the past. how alarmed is the intelligence community in france, in the united states, that somehow, something may have been missed here? >> i don't think so much it's a question of them being alarmed or surprised. i think given the influx of immigrants, 5,000 to 6,000 people from europe have traveled to fight on behalf of isis, as well as 200 to 300 americans that have traveled there, i don't think, as far as that goes, there's a big surprise. what i think they're trying to figure out right now, and as richard mentioned, is what is
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that's what they're working feverishly on right now. is how do we make sure we identify everyone that was involved in these horrific attacks and make sure we capture them and find out if there are any further connections, any follow-up attacks. >> and, obviously, part of the concern there is this network is clearly expanding. in the last two weeks, the attacks we have seen, plane in egypt, bombings in beirut, now in france, leaves people at home in the u.s. wondering, could the u.s. be a target? >> without question. i think we have seen an inflection point that's occurred here. we have to make sure, i think the u.s. authorities, both the fbi and dhs, they have been working with all the law enforcement agencies to prepare for an attack like this. it's called the active shooter plan. they have been working with all of them, including like you mentioned, the sports venues.
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as you know, with the availability of -- >> and -- >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> i was going to say quickly, that's the one side. as richard brought up and we've heard all morning, frankly, all weekend here, there is this concern over whether or not one of the attackers may have made his way through greece from syria. how do you balance that concern for a security threat with this very real, very large humanitarian crisis? >> well, i think you're right. it is a balance. what we've seen here is, ethinki think, we're going to have to increase our vetting of these individuals. we're going to have to do a better job, to make sure that the folks with nefarious objectives aren't going to sneak through and do something like what happened in paris. >> former fbi deputy director sean joyce, appreciate your insight. >> thank you. >> back to harry in new york. president obama spoke out about the paris attacks at the
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>> the killing of innocent people based on a twisted ideology is an attack not just on france, not just on turkey, but it's an attack on the civilized world. >> the president referring there to twin suicide bombings in turkey last month. nbc's ron allen is traveling with the president. ron, this is supposed to be an economic summit. i've got to imagine there are other things that are more -- that have risen to the top of the agenda. >> the terror attacks, isis, it dominates the summit now. president obama said the u.s. will redouble their efforts to destroy isis and find a diplomatic solution to the syrian civil war. turkey is the perfect place for the talks now. they're in the front lines in the fight against turerrorism. the u.s. will be under pressure to reevaluate their strategy.
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isis had been maintained a few weeks ago. he thought they were no longer gaining strength and thought this would be a multi-year effort to destroy the organization. the paris attacks created a new sense of urgency here at the summit and around the world. because they revealed that isis has the available to strike far beyond iraq and syria. the key to the u.s. strategy has been to attack isis from the air. thousands of air strikes, backing local forces on the ground. the u.s. has been trying to expand it in recent years with mixed results. also here, the humanitarian crisis. hundreds of refugees pouring out of syria and iraq unlike any time since world war ii. two critical days of talks in turkey. the question is, what will the u.s. and allies do? how aggressively will they respond to the threat posed by isis? >> ron allen with the president in turkey this morning. thank you. the paris attacks changed the course of the second
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democratic presidential debate in iowa last night, with hillary clinton facing tough questions about isis from her rivals. nbc's kristen welker is in ames, iowa, this morning, with more on that. >> good morning to you. the presidential candidates are waking up to a new reality this morning. the fight against isis is now the defining foreign policy issue of 2016. that was on display here saturday night, when the debate started with a robust discussion about combating terrorism. >> reporter: despite the somber back drop of the attacks on paris. >> we ask you to join us in observing a moment of silence. >> reporter: front runner hillary clinton was on defense from the start. about whether she and president obama, her former boss, underestimated isis. >> this cannot be an american fight, although american leadership is essentially. >> reporter: her rivals wasted no time pouncing. >> this actually is america's fight. >> reporter: vermont senator bernie sanders slammed her for
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voting for the iraq war in 2002. >> i don't think a sensible person would disagree that the invasion of iraq led to the massive level of instability we are seeing right now. >> reporter: clinton's opponents taking every chance to pile on. >> i have never heard a candidate, never, who has received huge amounts of money from oil, from coal, from wall street, all these campaign contributions will not influence me. >> the answer to impugn my integrity. >> reporter: saying her ties to wall street stem from representing the area during 9/11. >> we were attacked in downtown manhattan where wall street is. i spent time and effort helping them rebuild. >> reporter: it is paris that's changing the conversation on the campaign trail, including for republicans. >> our prayers go to the people of france, but that's not enough. action is required.
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>> reporter: many of them, again, accusing the president of being weak on isis. >> barack obama does not wish to defend this country. he may have been tired of war, but our enemies are not tired of killing us. they're getting stronger. >> now, many thought the tone of the debate would be more muted coming in the wake of paris, but the opposite was true. in fact, it got quite heated at moments. this morning, secretary clinton's rivals in both parties are criticizing her for linking her ties with wall street to 9/11. her campaign saying she was expressing her pride about having served new york as a u.s. senator. harry, back to you. >> thank you very much. chuck todd is the moderator of "meet the press." we watched the debate last night with great interest. did you see any policy shifts last night of significance, especially with the democrats saying, perhaps, maybe we really need to be more aggressive with isis?
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preview of what hillary clinton, if she is the democratic nominee, is going to face on the national security front. martin o'malley last night, essentially, was making the argument that many republicans have been making against secretary clinton and the obama administration, and linking it -- he linked it, calling it the last 15 years on the strategy and what to do in the middle east, indicting the bush and the obama administrations. you're getting a preview of what the election campaign would look like on that front. >> this presidential campaign a year away now. what about the republicans? you're looking at front runners, neither who have foreign policy experience. >> i can tell you, everything having to do with donald trump and ben carson looks smaller today than it did 48 hours ago. that's number one. number two, does it change the mind set of the republican primary voter, who has been sort of looking for an outsider, not
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caring about the fact that they are lacking experience. i'll have jeb bush on the show, and he's making this case now more than ever. not just him. chris christie, john kasich, the folks who have experience in crisis. will the voters change their mind set? i think they could. you know what, predicting what the republican voters are going to do with donald trump has been a terrible place to be. >> fool's errand, indeed. chuck, thanks very much. you'll have more on the paris terror attacks on "meet the press." let's get a check of the weather.
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paris is the city of light, and here in new york city, we know that light will never go out. our love and support is with everyone there tonight. we stand with you. >> "saturday night live" paying tribute to the victims of the paris terror attack.
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in both english and french. we are live this sunday morning, november 15th, 2015. harry smith, sheinelle jones and dylan dreyer are in new york. french authorities confirming at least 129 people, including one american college student, are among those killed. more than 350 are wounded. french officials have just identified one of the attackers as a local, someone known to authorities for his links to islamic radicalism. some of his family members were detained overnight. the fbi is sending a team of agents to paris to iassist in the investigation and relay any intelligence back to the bureau back at home in the u.s. let's hand it back to harry smith in new york. >> thank you very much, erica. a promising young college student from california among the dead in paris. nbc's blake mccoy is in los angeles with her story. good morning. >> good morning, harry. in southern california, the game bringing the paris attacks close
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the senior in college was studying abroad and scheduled to come home just before christmas. >> reporter: nohemi gonzalez. those close to her called her mimi. >> she was very warm, very caring. >> reporter: nohemi's aunt said the student was in paris tull fill -- fulfilling a dream. fascinating with the city, she wanted to learn french. the design major signed up for a foreign exchange program. >> very much of a go getter. everything she wanted to do, she went after it and found a way to get it done. >> reporter: a determination shattered when a gunman burst in. nohemi was eating at a restaurant with two friends when she was shot in the stomach and killed. nohemi's cousin calls this a nightmare she's waiting to wake up from. >> it's like, this is really happening. this is happening. there's nothing i can really do
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to bring her back. >> reporter: nohemi's mother gets tearful, thinks about the dreams stolen from her daughter. >> she wanted to have a career and a family. >> reporter: and at nohemi's school -- >> i and the entire campus are heartbroken. >> reporter: classmates pay tribute. the basketball team held a moment of silence before last night's game, and the cal state longbeach website is dark, except for a single light that shines. a light for nohemi gonzalez. >> the school is planning a candle light vigil in front of the student union tonight. nohemi is one of so many heartbreaking stories we're hearing. this sense of loss being felt in communities around the world, impacted by this senseless tragedy. harry? >> blake mccoy, thanks very much. let's go back to erica in paris. >> harry, thank you. as families mourn for their loved ones killed in friday's massacre, we are also hearing remarkable stories of survival.
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those now just emerging. nbc's keir simmons is here with more on those. >> good morning. you've seen the shock this city is suffering from. that is all the more acute for people who witnessed an attack. i've spoken to one man who, 20 seconds before a restaurant was fired upon, tried to get a table at the very restaurant. his are one of many stunning stories of survival. >> reporter: in paris this morning, windows remain riddled with bullet holes. people here haven't even begun to move on. for those who survived, the difference between life and death, pure chance. >> i was next to a guy who got shot in the head, that fell on me. so i was covered underneath his body. >> reporter: among the terrified, some even hanging from windows, fleeing the bataclan concert call, was pierce.
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of bodies and people screaming. because they were very badsly injured. it was a blood bath. >> reporter: after eventually finding refuge in a closet, he decided to make a run for an exit, but stopped. >> many people were wounded on the floor. i grabbed a young girl, a teenager, and she was hit twice in the leg. she was bleeding quite a lot. so i took her and i put her on my shoulder. i just ran. >> reporter: people were seen dragging friends away from the theater. the same carnage at one of the restaurants. >> i grabbed hold of the woman next to me. i had been holding her hand. i said, you okay? i realized she had been shot in the chest. i think she was dead. you're told in the movies that
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in these situations, there's a hero. someone comes out and tells you what to do. there was none of that. >> reporter: memories that will not easily be forgotten. this morning, there are makeshift memorials who those who did not live to tell the tale. >> one of the area ss where the young and the wealthy lived was targeted targeted. they appeared to have known the city, known who they wanted to hit and gone after them. >> impressive accounts, and how they're able to tell them shortly after. keir, thank you. we want to turn now to thomas who was inside the bataclan on friday night. he joins us. good to have you with us. >> hi. >> i know this is a tough morning. you said you haven't watched any of the coverage and avoided the picture pictures. >> yeah. >> this is one of the first times you're back in the neighborhood. >> first time out since that night. yeah. >> you wrote a very moving piece
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in it, you said, i cheated death. that was so close. then said, let's love each other. maybe the world will be a better place. >> yeah. >> why was it important for you to write that? >> i -- it's easy to succumb to hate and fear. when i got out, the first thing i thought was about my loved ones. to have hate there. i cannot -- i don't feel revenge. i don't -- some people say we have to be, i don't know -- i don't know, but i just -- people you care about, you want to see them again. >> you were in this concert hall. you just moved up to the front, one of your favorite songs was playing. i know you say you think that may have saved your life. at what point did you realize you were in the middle of a terrorist attack?
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>> they were playing the song. it was the end of the song. we heard shots but didn't know it was gunshots. it was in rhythm with the song. we watched the band. they were like, oh, this is not in the song. what's happening? people started to, you know, to collapse. >> was it -- there have been accounts that perhaps some people were targeted, even people in wheelchairs. >> i don't know. >> did it seem random to you? did it seem like they were spraying the room? >> i didn't see. i was there for 10 or 15 minutes, maybe 100 shots. it was random. >> then you had to run. do you remember those moments, as you ran out of the concert hall? >> i remember that i was in the middle of the mosh pit. we were maybe, i don't know, i
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would say 100 people there, they were shooting at us. i'm altall, as you can see. i play video games and know there were shots outside and i was not going to survive there. to be honest. i couldn't -- i wasn't -- i was back to the back, so i couldn't see them. i was wait inging but i couldn't see and i didn't want to stick my head out. i didn't want them to see that and shoot me. >> right. and you made it out. you were able to run and your friends were okay, too? >> yeah. >> thank you for sharing some of your story with us this morning. i know it can't be easy, but we appreciate you taking the time. >> can i add one more point? >> mm-hmm. >> i think the message is important, to love each other.
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it is easy to have hate. i love humor with love. it's never mocking anyone. we need that spirit. we need to have fun by loving each other. not having fun by hating or mocking or whatever. we have to love each other. >> wonderful message. thomas, thank you for coming this morning. >> thank you. >> harry, back to you. >> thanks so much. let's go to dylan for a check of the weather. >> we are watching the rain and mountain snow in the west coast. another storm system will make its way on shore on tuesday. it's great for mountain snow but we have high wind warnings into las vegas, where winds could top 70 miles per hour. heavy snow is likely in the mountains. as the storm system moves east, into tomorrow, we could see a
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before these terror attacks in paris as part of our season of kindness campaign, we planned to bring you the story of a group of volunteers who dropped everything to help the thousands of desperate families flowing into greece from syria, forced to leave everything behind because of the war there. five years at war there. now, there could be a backlash. reports of at least one of the terrorists may have made his way to europe, smuggling himself among the other migrants. as one top german official warned, we shouldn't punish the people fleeing the same terror at home that ended up striking right there in paris. so this morning, the story of crystal, a mom from california who wanted to help. these parents walking hundreds of miles with their children in their arms without any volunteer or relief experience, she set up a fundraising campaign with a simple goal. give these parents slings to
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carry their precious possessions, their children. two of our producers traveled to greece with crystal and other volunteers. all moms tried to do their part. >> when i saw the picture, i didn't just see a little boy face down on the sand, i saw what could have been my son. it compelled me into action. to be honest, i started the campaign, setting myself up for failure, so to speak. i didn't think it would meet the funding goal. it was the opposite. people out there, they really care. they do. they just need the right opportunity to get involved. i was here to pass out 2,000 baby carriers. 2,000 families that we're going to have an immediate impact on. it's amazing. what are we doing right now? we're waiting. you can see the blue star ferry here.
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coming from the island, and we have the baby carriers, ready to pass them out. we're all moms and wives and sisters. we have lives, jobs, our own problems. for the people i'm here with, it was not an option to just stay home and watch things unravel. everybody does somebody, no matter how small or big, there will always be a positive impact on this planet. >> to be in a situation where you're fleeing a country or getting off of a boat, or trying to walk 40 miles for asylum, and not having your babies close to you and probably just as terrifying as bombs going off next to you. it's a basic need that no one knew was a basic need. >> carrying even the smallest of infants, your arms are going to get very tired. falling, tripping, exhausted, malnourished. you're going to fall and drop the child.
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best way to get your family into safety. >> do you feel that when you put the carriers on them, they felt relieved? >> i think they were definitely relieved. saying bye to us. blowing kisses at me. she's relieved. hopefully, we can catch her at the camp and teach them how to wear it. the next comes at 3:00 at a different gate. all they're trying to do is get to a better place and protect their families. when i see the gratefulness in their eyes and i see that relief, because not only do they have a problem solved for them by receiving a carrier, but they realize that people care about them. that people want to help. >> it's so hard because you hear it. the kids were scared. most were scared.
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the older ones just want to be help. 7-year-olds were begging for carriers for their parents to carry them. >> they still have so much to go through, and that's just what i was thinking about the whole time. i was like, this is barely the beginning for them. >> it was a little overwhelming, to have a mother hand her 10 day old baby to me. i was thankful that i had the opportunity to be there. >> carry the future, our motto is today's children are tomorrow's civilization. we want to safeguard children. we want to make sure that any time there is a crisis on the planet, where there's mothers and families being displaced with their children, we can be there to help and we can provide a safe way for people to transport their children. >> enormous humanitarian crisis. >> absolutely. this has been a tough morning. one of the bright spots, if any, is the thread of love we've seen
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with people who don't know what else to do but love, and they love hard. our producers saw this story and they wanted to bring it to you. they got on the plane and went there and made this happen. >> patrice is pregnant with her second child, so it regular resonated with her. >> paris rebounding in the face of terror. first, these messatracfone 90-day plans startas low as twenty bucks and give youminutes, text and data with unlimited carryover. that's ninety days of dashing through the holidays for less. america's largest and most dependable networks. no contract. now android smartphones start at $10. or you can bring your favorite smartphone and save even more. tracfone. do everything for less. we stop arthritis pain, so you don't have to stop. tylenol 8hr arthritis pain
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back on this special edition of "today." let's go back to erica in paris with collections on what's next for them. >> hey, harry. good morning again. we were showing you pictures there from the many memorials around paris. a lot of people have flock eded to a huge statue. it's a reminder of the struggles the country fought to regain their freedom. one man said he was there because it's like wearing your shoes. why would you wear shoes? it's just what you do. for many people there, it is a remind of one of the things they hold dear, and that is their liberty.
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>> reporter: the message across paris is one of resilience. we are not afraid, reads the sign, above a heart created from candles. coming together, there is a display of solidarity, of shared grief, of hope in each tiny flame. and there is a determined spirit that can't be extinguished. it is deep in the french soul. this belief in freedom, in liberty, equality, brotherhood. in this country that helped the u.s. win its own liberty, that gave us the statue of liberty, liberty is at the heart of french culture. this freedom to live your life and celebrate each moment. the enjoyment of a good meal, of wine, of conversation, each revered here. in the shadow of friday's events, all the more poignant at a city and a nation pull together to show the world their liberty will not be compromised. their lives will not be terrorized.
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this terror will not divide them. their light will not go out, but shine more brightly, burning freely for all to see. >> those candles have been key, harry. they were put in windows across europe last night. we saw people lighting them inhotel, signs were out, encouraging you to light a to do great things, sometimes you gotta break the rules. surface pro 4. a new screen for new perspectives. a new pen for new masterpieces. new speakers for a new sound. we reinvented the surface pro. so you can reinvent everything else.
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that's coming up in a bit. erica? >> thank you, harry. stay tuned for more on the investigation tonight on nbc nightly news. until then, have a great sunday,
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