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additional founding provided by: the colcom foundation the charles a. frueauff foundation and by the sanofi aventis foundation. >> this week on "to the contrary". sarah palin and frontier feminism: something new or same old same old; behind the headlines: latina entrepreneurs help build wealth in their communities and conquer the recession. >> hello, i'm bonnie erbe. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of news and social trends from diverse perspectives. up first: the women of the tea party. former alaska governor sarah
palin claims that armed with "mama grizzlies" they will "take this country back" in the november midterm elections. palin says maternal activism is an "emerging, conservative, feminist identity" and it includes young mothers and grandmothers who are upset with federal spending, the government's handling of issues such as health care, immigration, and abortion rights. grounded in the tea party movement, these women make up about 45% of its grass-roots activists. and some media outlets are warning politicians not to underestimate their voting power. in a turnaround since 2008, when president obama won the presidential election courtesy of women voters, this year many women are expected to support more social and fiscal conservatives. so, debra carnahan is frontier feminism really something new or does sarah palin give it a new charismatic face?
>> i don't believe sarah palin is the leader of frontier feminism. frontier feminism was and is real. sarah palin is the leader of something, i'm not sure what, but i recall it, snake oil. i think frontier feminism is anything that shatters perception about where women should work, what they should believe in and how they should behave. >> well, if sarah palin wants to talk how she wants to give voice to the millions of women who want it all, who want an education, career, and a family, then maybe that is something new. it's not clear to me that that's actually what she's fighting for. >> i think the underlying principle of em power of women not being dependent on others is absolutely the same. i think she has just added dependence on the government to that list. >> well, first let's talk about the tea party women. when i first heard about frontier feminism and the grass roots female activist in the tea pennsylvania i thought of feminist for life which was a group that actually started in
1972. we're talking about almost 40 years ago, except, yes, her focus is more on taxes, another important conservative issue. lesson the abortion issue. >> i agree with you on that. i don't think it is about abortion i think it's about concerns about what mothers have always been concerned about. what women have always been concerned about. health care, education, quality of life. and i think that's what finding the tea party members together these women together. >> we're also interchanging here, tea party, glass roots activists and sarah palin version of sort of social, biblical and financial -- some would say arch-conservatism. are they the same thing? >> no. i don't believe they are. from my experience that i've seen in st. louis, on my husband is a member of congress, we had a lot of people from the tea
party movement come to our health tear counsel halls, our aging town halls. they're concerned about what is the future for us for our children. is this going to be a good plan. is this going to drive the deficit up even higher and wreck this economy. i don't think it's democrat. i don't think it's republican. if that were the case then what we just saw happen in kentucky would not have happened in the senate republican run-off that we had there. >> i think it's interesting that sarah palin is symbolmatic and almost gone full circle, if it hadn't for what happened in the '60s and '70s, women wouldn't have the freedom to pick and choose and expression themselves. before we were i am on holed, we try to break through that and we have made a lot of progress, i think it's em blame attic that we've come a long ways, now we can focus oop not just on
equality and inclusion we can focus on the kinds of issues that you're talking about. >> nicole, are you close -- do you to go tea party events? are you involved with that at all? >> i went to the one september 12, i haven't been to a lot of the events since. but i do, i work with the polling firm that has -- that does biweekly polling that is one of the questions. we've been able to aggregate a lot of data about it. >> are tea party -- were these tea party women who again, primary concern seems to be, if you listen to the media reports anyway about fiscal conservism. both bush administration, republican administration first, went from a surplus, a government surplus of 300 million to a deficit of only a trillion dollars. then of course much expanded by president obama and the democratic congress. >> lutely. their top three issues are the economy, deficit and taxes. definitely president bush was a big problem as well as some of the current things going on. looking at sort of overall --
disillusion with both parties what's interesting. the republicans have betrayed them on spending. democrats have not lived up to their expectations on spending. it will be interesting come november to see how they are mobilized and going forward. >> but heather, there are enough of these women out there to do what women did for obama in '08? or are there not enough this i read a statistic something like 18% of republicans are tea party members or they make up 18% of the republican party. even if 45% of those are women are we talking about a big enough cohort of voters to throw everything to the republican party this november? >> well, it does seem to be that they are still a fairly small segment. what is really interesting is these new reports that there are a lot of women taking leadership rolls in these organizations. what i'm seeing is, what are they actually going to focus on? we have these big picture things, the economy and deficit but what does that actually mean? some of the things that sarah palin is talking about with her
mama grizzlys and things that women care about. women have risen up to push for things that affect families and children and the things that women and men of course compare about. so the interesting to see when they start putting some meat on it, it starts saying, what are we going to pro-actively fight nor what kind of agenda will it be. >> as debra pointed out about the election, primaries both in kentucky and arkansas and elsewhere this week, was was that is signal that this growing, rising movement of throw the bums outl they're d or r bums is what is going on in november. >> i think there's a real possibility that that is there. anybody that is incumbent you can bet on capitol hill is thinking about that all the time. there's a long time between here and november. but i think what you are seeing is a dissatisfaction and fear. if the economy continues to do well and go on an upswing i think you'll see less of the
throw the bums out. i think that is the fear that's driving this movement right now. >> let's not forget the motivated voters. in terms of motivation, democrats are far behind what republicans are which are behind what tea partiers are. in terms of who will get out to the polls is important to watch as well. >> is that more -- we talked a moment ago about how they're relatively small percentage of the party. but because of the energyigation if you don't mind my bastardization ever the language. particularly the women and the women tea party members and women mama grizzly, are they the soccer moms of this coming november? >> quite possibly b. would also saw really motivated voters in pennsylvania as well. look what happened in the pennsylvania area. that is very hotly contested democratic senate vote. really it's anybody as game of
who can mobilize and get their voters out. >> who can speak to them. i think one of the interesting things here as you're seeing, not speaking to me that's what i see when i'm reading about these tea party women. you're not talking to issues that we care about. there's a real opening there for folks on both sides of the aisle to step in say, we know that you care about jobs, we know that you care about the economy, here is what we're going to do to bring jobs back to your communities and give you the kind of services that you need to take care of your family. >> i would just like to say, let's not assume that every woman that supports the tea party movement thinks that sarah palin is her idol and her leader. there are a lot of women in that movement that don't like her. i think we need to also address that, not assume because you're a woman the tea party, you are all about sarah palin. >> all right. thank you for joining us for this segment of the show. behind the headlines: latina entrepreneurship. starting a business is tough enough, but starting one in a down economy is even tougher. that hasn't stopped many latinas who are building skills so they
can rise from being employees to employers, wealth-builders and esteemed members of their communities. this is national small business week and we take this occasion to look at one nationwide nonprofit organization, helping latinas to make the critical transition. washington, d.c.'s vibrant and colorful adam's morgan neighborhood is where those inside the beltway come to play. but for the women gathered here on a friday night, it's all business, literally. with the assistance of the latino economic development corporation, or ledc, these women will soon open d.c.'s first worker-owned daycare cooperative.
>> for the last year, rosemary diaz and her six future business partners have been learning how to start and operate a small business. there are many barriers to that goal for recent immigrants and the most important one is language. >> it's a barrier because if you don't speak english fluently, it's difficult to navigate the formal legal systems of the united states, figuring out how to license your business, how to get the right permits, how to navigate that system and really access that financing you need to get started for your small business. >> as a member of the national association for latino community asset builders, or nalcab, ledc is one of many non-profits across the country, providing, culturally, and linguistically relevant training services to
would-be hispanic entrepreneurs. these women are part of a nationwide network of hispanic entrepreneurs who have produced striking economic growth in low-income neighborhoods and during a down economy. >> when it comes to latinas what you see often is that importance of affiliation, who they're working with and the fact that they're helping their community beyond themselves. so you also see a greater distribution of wealth, when it's wealth obtained by latinas. i think there's more of a stronger sense of social responsibility. >> a recent survey of dc hispanic business owners found 44% chose self-employment because they needed flexibility to take care of dependents or other family obligations. and while running a childcare center may seem like the perfect opportunity for a woman with a family, it can be difficult to make such a business profitable. >> whether they have children or
not they're trying to make a living. if they can't survive financially they can't stay home and take care of other people's children. they will have to go and find a different type of work instead. >> teresa garcia runs the family childcare program at san francisco's mission economic development agency or meda. located in the mission district, the heart of the bay area's hispanic community, meda helps residents, who are generally poor and unable to access loans through traditional banks, secure funding through microloans. >> we will help the client with a business plan, with financial projections, with project budget and kind of guide them through the process. we also then connect them to lenders who are more likely to lend to them. >> a few years ago, elena ramirez was a struggling home-based daycare provider using an outdated record keeping system. >> i have to write everything on paper and sometimes because i
lost some papers, so it was misplaced everything and when i get the help from meda, it was everything in computer, so they gave me, they teach me how to use a special technique to have my bookkeeping in there. >> in addition to setting up an accounting system, teresa garcia and the meda staff also helped ramirez secure funding so she could expand her business. >> i increased my income double, and my clients also doubled, and i still have a waiting list. i have license for 14 children, but i just have 12 because i think it's more than enough, i definitely feel that after getting help from meda it makes me feel more secure of what i'm doing. >> for small business owners such as elena ramirez, technical assistance and business training has never been more important. in this tough economic climate, meda and ledc are hearing from
many more entrepreneurs who need help to keep their businesses afloat. last year 550 small business owners in the d.c. metro area received one-on-one coaching. about 17% were latina entrepreneurs, including gladys esparza, whose hair salon took a big hit during the early days of the recession. >> esparza left ecuador eight
years ago with years of hair styling experience and the dream of one day owning a salon, but lacked the skills and money fulfill that dream. that's where ledc came in. ledc and other nalcab organizations help entrepreneurs understand their credit report, and teach them to separate personal finances from business finances, ensuring they can properly manage cash flow and cover operating costs. >> halfway across the country in minnesota, other latina salon owners are launching businesses, helped by the lati economic development center based in minneapolis. ledc minnesota worked for a law that would require all
cosmetology exams be available in spanish. that alone helped eight women become salon owners and create jobs within their community. and, last year ledc minnesota helped launch 34 new businesses. proof, community activists say that if replicated in more cities, these programs could greatly improve the financial standing of america's latino community. >> latinos lack is access, to individuals, training, access to capital, they just don't have generations of people that have been through the system in the united states to navigate the financial map, if you will. so they're navigating for the first time, they're charting their course. >> something the latinas forming the daycare cooperative in d.c. are counting on for their own children and for the generations to come. evident in the future daycare's name: semillitas or little
seeds in spanish. >> so, lahti -- leticcia hudson, welcome to come in from chicago. tell us your story how you got your immensely successful small business now to be a big small business and what barriers you faced. >> thank you for having me. well, the typical barriers, which is a lot of things that a lot of women that were mentioned, the self taught, starting a by, the challenges of financial, being a minority is very difficult to get financial support. and so a lot of things i've encountered is like the school of hard knocks, as i grow in business, i'm also trying to learn more so i can make better decisions for my company so that moving forward it will succeed because it's the legacy for my son. >> how is it -- i think i know the answer to this question. there were many generation of -- generations of immigrants who came here before who didn't have the support system. why is it so much more important
to have them now? >> well, i think it's because as hispanic women, we're the backbone of the hispanic community and what we do within our families. we're creating the future. i have a son, he is the future, he's going to have children and extremely crucial. when i look back in time my mom -- i'm puerto rican, my mom went to a college and had great studies, then married my father and stayed home to raise the children. she tells us that, learning and education was so key. so we move forward, here i am trying to create the path for other future women as well as my son. it's important for him to get these lessons to see what -- i see from where my mom was, my dad went to 6th grade. we're creating a future. everybody knows that the hispanic community is growing so rapidly. by 2050 we'll be very prominent in new york. >> it's a different era, too in the sense so much more you have to have hi-tech, you have to
have knowledge 6 hi-tech which 50 years ago didn't exist when you were starting a new business. you have to know how to fill out loan form applications, they didn't exist. you went to your neighborhood banker and shook hands, that was the deal. your other thoughts. >> i have to tell you, i love her story. she owns a bus company, nontraditional business sector for women and she's very successful, congratulations. >> thank you. >> i think, you got it, that that is more complicated now you have to provide health care to add to the complication. if that's what makes a difference, i love the stories from chicago, the stories from california that you were telling. right now, what's happening is the talent is there, the capital is there, what you need to match it. in order to match it you need technical support because it's very complicated. but once you provide 'is tans look how it flourishes, it's a beautiful story. >> i also think that a lot of, for the start-ups in particular, i own a consulting firm for awhile, i still do my own
consulting, you have to have the relationships, you have to have the network. it's become a very complex process and the minute you have 15 glow he's all these laws kick in, you have to do reports. people get overwhelmed a. lot of these businesses start in the kitchen, ideas. just a concept, all of a sudden it's grown, how do you catch up. you have the skills, you know what you want to do, but how do you then access to venture capital continues to be very challenging. small business administration, you have to have an -- i did a lot of sessions with them, you have to have two years of profitable success before you get federal funding support from organizations like that. >> what -- you were eeoc chair, what percentage of latina small business -- own small businesses actually get sba support? >> very little. it's growing numbers now. and we work very closely with
the sb arc to make sure that they kicked in with the knowledge that, all of these other requirements depending on the laws, five employee, ten employees it's a growing number because that's -- as you said, it is a growing segment of the population. small businesses is actually as you know employ most people than all of the other forefun 500 companies. we're still four or five percent, something of that magnitudea lot of room for growth there. >> one of the interesting things that we haven't touched on yet is, we see a lot of small businesses especially women-owned business start up, they are significant. but we also see a lot of them fail. we talk how they're the drivers of job growth, of course i'm the economist, i have to be a little bit dismal. they are also -- see high failure rate. what can we do to make sure that those business stay in existence and ramp up. one of the interesting things about this segment is how many of these small women-owned
businesses are in services, especially caring services. these are services where it's hard to make a lot of money, it's neighborhood ramp up. a lot of women do this so that they can better balance work and family. and that's not necessarily, we need to be more supporting them so that this isn't just their only route to do that but we can prop them up and see them grow. >> what is your advice to women-owned latina-owned small businesses who are struggling through the economy and might make it until the economy really turns around or might not? what should they do. >> mentoring is key. i think a lot of hispanic women don't reach out and ask for mentoring. if i need someone, i see some type of relationship building, i see that they have so much knowledge i need that mentoring. i'm not shy any more i ask for assistance, because i need that. i think what's -- >> wait, we're about out of time. the message is, not only ask for mentoring, provide it, too, if you know people. that is it. next week federal government's
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