>> what's the level of communication within the two countries? >> almost none. right before admiral mom left office, he gave a talk at the carnegie endowment and said right now, there is no communication between the two sides in the persian gulf. if there is -- after 30 years of not communicating, we are misunderstanding each other and we are miscalculating. when you misunderstand and miscalculate, you escalate. >> let me tell the folks at home, our guest is dr. trita parsi, the founder and president of the national iranian council. his background, born in iran, raised in sweden, came into the united states and it is a ph.d.