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>> and now, "bbc world news." >> this is "bbc world news america." more bodies found executed in syria. the spurts out reach across the world. >> a lot of unanswered questions, but no doubt in my mind that action is necessary now, in the united states needs to be a part of it. charles taylor gets a bit the- year sentence for war crimes described as some of the most heinous in history. in the digital age, bringing back the good-old fashioned bookshop.
er inlcome to our view mirro around the world. 13 bodies apparently executed were found in the eastern part of syria. the killings were discovered even as the u.n. security council held a meeting on last week's massacre that left more than 100 people dead and sparked wide-right combination of the regime. james robbins starts our coverage. >> no sign of the plea for peace in syria being heated. our creeks of violence in different parts of the country. -- outbreaks of violence in different parts of the country. last friday's massacre took place in houla.
>> the syrian government, people are extremely troubled with this heinous and unjustified terrorist killing that took place and houla. today and other massacre was uncovered. -- today another massacre was uncovered. some were shot at close range. the fears that violence could spread through the region. >> in the worst case, which seems the most probable, and that is the violence escalates, the conflict spreads and intensifies and reaches a higher degree of severity and involves countries in the region, takes on it increasingly secretary and
forms, and we have a major crisis, not only in syria, but in the region. >> what are some of the risks of spreading regional conflict? iran could get even more involved, while turkey fears instability so close at hand. saudi arabia and qatar are increasing the flow of weapons to opposition rebels, and levitan, which syria has long tried to dominate has already seen that secretary and violence spread to its streets. syria is facing the bloodiest wars of the so-called arab spring. these pictures show rebels attacking a government position and then beat a government soldier. today the rebels syrian army divided the opposition and gave the receive 48 hours to stop fighting or face greater violence.
signs of increasing polarization and determination from all sides to fight on. >> in light of the continuing violence in syria, some u.s. lawmakers are calling on america to intervene. there is little appetite for military action, but americans are dismayed by what they see in syria. eight americanis the onl muslim and i spoke to him today. if they have been discussing the peace plan for syria. you thin that plan has failed? >> yes, i do. i admire the effort that he has made, but i think it is clear now that after houla the effort has to be described as something that was not successful. i think they are going to stick with the plan, they have to dramatically increase the number of monitors. it has to be somewhere in the four digits so they can be
adequately covering the country, and then reporting back on whatever atrocities or violations of human rights they see. >> you have called on the international community to be far more robust and what it is doing in syria. what exactly do you think they should be doing? >> we should establish an internationally-supported soupcon in turkey with the cooperation of the turkish government. i think we should move forward without the support of russia and china if we cannot secure it. i sink nato and others that are willing to step up and protect the syrian people feed to create a safe zone that would need to be protected with military force if necessary. >> what happens if they decide to violate the safe zone and fire on american planes or american military? what would happen then? >> i think the state's own it should be protected with all
proportionate means, and that includes military means. the syrian government should not get the impression they can attack civilians or a safe zone established by the international community. they should be clear that is a perilous for the -- sing for them to try to do. >> the united states is in the process of getting itself out of two wars. there is no appetite for another conflict in the middle east. >> i am sorry, but when you have it is people being slaughtered, 12,000 or more, it is time for the international community to act. >> including the united states? >> absolutely. there is a lot of things it would take to carry out the safe zone idea, and the united states has an important role to play. international community to talk about how they will divvy up responsibilities.
there are a lot of unanswered questions, but action is necessary now, and the united states needs to be a part of it. >> if the united states did fire on planes, he would be prepared for american forces to fire back? >> yes. i think the forces should know that would be the anticipated response so they would be wise enough not to do it in the first place. >> congressman keith ellison joining me from capitol hill. >> 50 years in jail was the sentence handed down today for the former president of liberia, charles taylor. he was convicted last month on 11 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity for fuelling the war in sierra leone. the judge described his crimes as among the most heinous in history. >> in the case of the prosecutor versus charles taylor -- >> when he arrived in court, he
knew there was no precedent in modern times for sentencing of former head of state at the international tribunal, but if he had hoped that might help him, he was wrong. >> this the trail out ways of the distinctions that might otherwise pertained to the liability discussed. >> the judge spoke of a new era of accountability, effectively saying that because charles taylor had been a powerful man in west africa, he should have shown more responsibility. to go for the foregoing reasons, at the chamber unanimously sentence you to a single term of imprisonment of 50 years. >> the court reminded the world of some of the atrocities submitted -- atrocities
committed by the rebels that he had supported. the hallmark of the rebels was hacking off people's lives as a terrible warning to anyone who opposed them and support of the elected government of the day. there are scars that will never hear. >> the long-term impact on the lives is devastating. haveee's without arms who to live on charity because they can no longer work. young girls who had been publicly stigmatize and will never recover from the trauma of rape and sexual slavery to which they were subjected. >> mr. taylor could only sit and listen. his defense team had never denied awful crimes were committed, and issued they said whether he had directed them. the defense always said it was political theater. that was an argument the judges
rejected. the stories of the victims would be told. the man the judges found responsible for their plight would hear them. to go now to another twist in the case of the pakistani doctor who helped the cia track down osama bin laden. last week he was jailed for 33 years. -- >> now to another twist in the case of the pakistani doctor who " the cia track down osama bin laden. >> the central jail, home to dr. shaquile lafridi. since his arrest one year ago, his family has been silent.
his wife and three children in hiding. but his brother agreed to lead us in his lawyer's office. >> they are very worried about me. he is now speaking out, though he says government officials warned relatives to keep quiet. >> they told the family members not to say anything to the media, that it could endanger him, but now he has been sentenced. he cannot be silent. we have to ask for justice. officials admit he may not be safe in jail. the taliban have vowed to kill him. he is worried for his brother's life and his own. >> something could happen to me at any time. i could be picked up and taken away. i could be made to suffer. >> he was originally detained
after allegations that he tried to get dna samples from bin the cia.ompounds from washington says he was instrumental in taking down the al qaeda leader and once and released. pakistan says he will stay in jail. >> according to any standards, according to law, he has to have the commission permission. that conviction is unjust his lawyers say, but there is little sympathy here for the jailed dr.. >> he may be seen as a hero in washington, but on these streets you find a very different view. for many pakistani is, america is the enemy. everyone assisting the cia, even to bring down osama bin laden will serve trial in pakistan
pakistan has yet to charge anyone with helping the al qaeda leader during his long stay here. >> yet another sign of the disconnect between what this -- between washington and pakistan. david cameron is former director of communications has been arrested and charged with alleged perjury. officers are investigating whether the former tabloid newspaper editor lied during the perjury trial. he was working for the prime minister when he told the court he had no knowledge of illegal activities. for the first time in nearly a quarter of a century, the woman known simply as the lady has spent the day outside burma. she went to thailand -- thailand to speak to migrants.
a historic nightric away, and a chance to feel homesick. thousands were in the streets for the chance to see a woman who's slowly to finance inspired so many. >> this is the first warning that she has spent outside burma in 24 years. it is a typical but she is decided to spend it here among migrant workers. she spoke with the view of the several million workers who live in thailand. they are often used as cheap labor and exploited. she told them the need to be aware of their legal rights and hoped it would return home soon. >> all of them say we want to go back as soon as possible. that is part of our
responsibility. everyone has a responsibility. we have the responsibility to create the kind of country to which all the people could return to if they wish to. >> the dramatic year of political reform will lead to turn into jobs and economic growth. most have decided to wait to see if the new opportunities to a rise. >> life is better and thailand. whenever i go home, i returned to thailand, because i get more money here. >> there will be lots of jobs, and we will not need to go abroad like we do now. >> it will take time, but this trip is further proof that progress can be made. >> you are watching "abc world
world news america." rescue workers had ended their search for survivors after a second earthquake killed 17 people and let 350 injured in northeast italy. survivors are on edge because of the aftershocks, and as alan johnson reports, there is fear of another deadly tremor. >> for many hours a search this great mountain of rubble. they knew three people were trapped in the factory when it collapsed. first they found one body, then another, and then a third. no one survived in the wreckage. all across the region thousands had been forced from their homes, sometimes because of buildings being damaged, and sometimes because it is just too
frightening to be inside while the aftershocks continued. everywhere they are struggling to cope with not one impact but impact of not one earthquake, but to. >> we are all devastated. >> evidence of the crushing power of the earthquake is everywhere. often it was the older, weaker buildings. historic churches and towers that suffered most. many knew were structures could not cope either. >> the task of fully assessing the damage across the region has only just begun. in many places the experts will have a tough decisions to make to which of the worst-hit buildings can be saved in which will have to be torn down. everyone knows even now after this double the disaster --
disaster, there are still more dangers here. more aftershocks could bring down the badly-weakened that structures that are all around. alan johnson, bbc news area and n northern italy. take a return to the top story, at the violence in syria. -- >> now, returning to the top story, the violence in syria. thank you very much for joining us, ambassador. do you get the sense the u.n. is closer to consensus of what needs to be done on syria? >> i think there is a reasonable degree of concern for uncertain elements. the fact that we need to increase the pressure, particularly on the government of syria to provide -- to abide
by commitments it made in previous meetings of the security council. those are agreed elements, but in terms of what extra pressure can be put on the government, whether we can go for sanctions or other coercive measures is to be seen in the next few days. certainly we believe we need to increase the pressure, and most members of the council also believe that. otherwise the plant is in serious difficulties. >> given what we have seen in syria over the past few days, the latest massacre, it this plan is over, isn't it? >> i do not think it is over, get. and we will hear from the president himself when he comes to new york next week, and he will brief us on his discussions in damascus. >> the syrian government did not abide by any points of the arrangement. >> know, and that is a point we
laid out very clearly. efforts by others to pretend it was not responsible for the massacres are bribery. having said that, we still believe the best way out of this crisis, which has some chance of avoiding massive bloodshed is the president's plan, and we will not call crime on it while there is still some chance of that bearing fruit. it may be a small chance, and i would not want to put it at a very high percentage, but there is still a chance, and i do not think it is right to call time on it yet. >> can you tell me what is happening in conversations with the russians, because clearly they are critical. do you get any sense they are shifting the pressure and prepared to put more pressure on the regime? >> we are having dialogue with the regime. the foreign minister was in moscow on monday and had
extensive discussions. there are g-20 meetings coming up. there will be in a tense time over the next week or 10 days for the russians to see exactly what is possible in what is not possible, because they are the run -- the ones that the most influence on damascus and the one so far that have been protecting the syrians from tougher action. >> de to get the sense their position is changing? >> i think the discussions that went on in moscow showed there is scope to work with them, but turning the general commitment to work on making the plan work, getting a political dialogue and political transition in the country, turning that into concrete steps we will have to wait and see whether it works.
>> ambassador to the united nations, thank you for joining us here. >> ernest hemingway once said there is no friend as loyal as the book. in today's world those pages are increasingly being turned on the latest electronic device, a trend that is hurting large bookstore chains. this also recently spoke to us in her new shop in nashville. >> to a huge profit of bookstores have closed. -- two huge profitable bookstores have closed. at the time i thought it is time. i do not care if we do not sell books. i have to live in this city that's has a bookstore, but we are doing really well.
people in communities woke up and said i really missed having a little bookstore that i could take my kids to and see things. to go even i am not want to buy anything, i like to browse. i like to get my hands on things and look at things. >> believe it or not, it is a page turner. we of brilliance that of people that read, so you can come into the store and tell me the last book you read, and i can tell you three more books he will love. amazon has an algorithm that says he bought this book and other people bought this book, and that is not the same thing as dealing with a human being. >> our youngest son we could take into a bookstore, and when he found one, he would say i liked this one. it was a done deal.
with the advent of ebooks and the book's not as an object, but a collection of information, i think what we are attracted to more and more is beautiful books. >> i really value of the physical product. i have a kindle and enjoy it, but it is nice to have a physical book. >> it is a ghost that comes back for a certain person. >> i cannot imagine starting out now as an author, because the landscape is so different than it was when i was coming along. these are the people that took a chance on me when i had a first novel, second novel and no one
knew who i was. take of those are the places where you can sit down and build the readers. build them on line, facebook, twitter. these of the places we get to talk to them. >> what i care about is that people read, just because they are coming popular, does not mean we should do all the other books into a pile and burn them. it is not over. >> books are not over. independent books go -- ookstore owner and patchn patct speaking to us. if you like to find me at twitter i'm on bbc. thank you for watching. i will see you back here
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