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>> what nato leaders have to tack when they gather next week in wales, and a look at the upcoming annual warrior gains. -- gam captioned by t national captioning institute happy l labor day weekend. i am vago muradi and welcome to "defense news." veterans take parin the warrior games, the competitition
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focused on showing the strength and resilience of those who have served in uniform. they will take place in colorado between september 28 and october 24. the games are the top event in the army fred -- army's reconditioning programming for the physical and mental well-being of returning troops. joining us to talk about the games, james rodriguez, a former who is nowt sergeant the deputy in charge of the warrior care policy. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about t program and why this mean so much for the minute women who serve. the bow the warrior games are the combination of year-long efforts -- sometimes longer than veterans going through the recovery process. actually working on that individual's sport, sometimes it helps thets,
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recovery and gives them a venue to showcase the work they have put into the recovery and training. >> this is an extraordinary amount of work as much as any athlete, if not more would have to do, going into t ts, right? ofan extraordary amount work. in amputations and other cases, they will be back up on their feet, learning to use as the static. then getting into a sport ty may have never done befefore. >> you talked about for static whether it is baskeketbalor running. yoare looking at these extremely advancedro-statics -- psthetics. is changed on the battlefiel we have news where and adaptive legs, for example, where in some c the ankles
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of someonee gait who has a normal leg. that is allowing them to do things they have never done before with prostheticss. a long-termtill challenge, right? more and more countries are that manygiven have served in iraq and ghanistan -- so many countries are looking at wounded warrior companies and programs. the u.k., for example. whwhat is next for programs in e united states and d what are soe of the other countries you're working with to develop rooms like this?s? defense willent of be going systemwide th the warrior gagames for 2015. they will continue for 2015 and beyond. we are working with the united kingdo what we're doing with those fofolks is making sure the countries s representednderstand
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what we're doing inhe u.s. where sharing information. we are also doing what is called a mini summit, and we will be aring information with the 13 countries participating. >> and the games start september in london, if i'm not correct. we have the former commandant general of the roy marines. we had another marine on the show talalking about tt. and the defefense attaché, , the u.k. defense attachehé to the united statete what is the next phase -- what are some of the priorities you have for your program going forward? >> the priority is to sustain at the level we need to. we understand there are other wounded warriors who have not yettarted participating in athletics s and we wanant to mae re we have the resources for those athletes to come and particicipate in t event. participate in daily training,
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weekly training. eventually get to the warrior games. to use the games as lo-term recovery. >> 60% of folks do not use sports and everyone knows that involvementn sports is great fofor positive mental outlook.k. how yoyou get those 60% to becoe involved definitely want to get those current servicemembers participating in sports to reach out to eir fellow service members to encourage them to participate in sports. because they can sethehe bow you firsand. get them to reach outo their flow service members. as well as fellow service members inin the military. get them to be sure thethletes get the opportunity to participate. military adapte srts program has helped 100,000 wounded warriors, servicemembers regain confidence as they
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recover from their injurs. why is this so important? >> it is important because it mentaly helps with the rehabilitation, but the phycal rehabilitation. to be coletely well recovered, it has to involve psychological training. there is the mental training, the e physical training. thoskinds of things. it also o includes the family members as well. the family m members have to be pa of the rehabilitation process. >> on the mental part of things, generally that is something that tends to fall through the craras and maybe the most important part o of this is toto bome engageinhink in spite of delitating injuries, you can have a very bright and very productive future. what more can be done on the memental front to help men and women tryiying to recoring get their lives completely back on track? think we're doing a fairly good job a providing resources for them with psychological
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counseling. i think thehere is always room r improvement. one thing we can do is let them know that resources are available so they can always haveccess those resources. and make sure the family members are included in that recess. the family members, the athlete themselves, they are part of the ocess and you have to understand it is a long-term process and there are resources available for it. >> sir, thank you for joinin us. rest of look -- best of luck on the games. >> thank you. >> tnk you. coming up,ato leadersrs prepare for
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>> leaders from nato's 28 member nations rather in cardiff this week. tdestabilizize
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ukraine. and islamic militants have seized a chunk of iraq. beinge, china is steadily more assertive in the pacific, challenging the united allies.nd its regional joining us to discuss how nato should respond our frank cramer, heather connolly, lincoln bloomfield, and husband ike -- hans. i'll have served at the pentagon or the state department or both and the white house. ns served president obama heather and the lincoln served other administrations. welcome to the program. to understanding the crises understanding what is driving these guys. russia, isis, china -- all are performing outside the post-world war ii democratic
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norms. russia is fighting a svelte campaign -- although somewhat less dopey after this week. asna basically wants to grab much terriry they y can without having to fight everybody. tell us strategically what do these three protagonists have in common? >> i think what is in, and what i sometimes called the geopolititics ofof resentment. the basisis is different, but yu can sefor each they really do not agree at all with what i would call the liberal western model. with respect to o china, china s an educational approach that iss built on a four character sloga they call it. never forgrget national humiliation. mr. boudin simply -- mr. putin simply does noagree with the way the west operates, particularly the united states. ices a are anti-modern. that is the basis of their
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entire approach. radical funmentalist approach. they simply resent the way the west comes at things. they resent it structures. they do not feel they have a place in the model we live. >> right now, one of the top issusues anders fogh rasmussen, nato'ss secretary-general, has said are the issues and does try to focus o on that. dedespite sanctions, putin is moving along. how does nato, the united states need to spond to russiand how ist likely to respond to rush i? we're now seeing an incredible moment of testing of american leadership and purpose inhe world. 27 nato o countries will be staring at president obama and saying, what is the strategy echo how do we did surprise it then baltimore -- how do we
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deter president putin? whether it is reflectingn whatputin is doing or w what iss is doing, there is a fundamental critic -- that ability gap. opendeter by keeping options . through this testing period, what we need to accomplish at the nato summit, the president needs to be clear about u.s. intentions and u.s. plplans and brg those 27 leaders together in a show of unity to say mr. putin, ukraine is off-limits. >> it seems to me the e trenin washingt is we tend to b be more and more reactive. each day brings a new nature crisis. the government has become, in some ways, me bloated than ever. there are more decision-makers with smaller portfolios. what that does is, it takes us
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away from a strategic view of whatat is going on. when you talk about syria, mr. putin h has an n important role. hehe is an ms merchant. he is worried about sni fundamentalism. a l lying -- aligning with a ron works for him. he likes the price of oil to be higher. i daresay a five dollar, $10 hike in oil mayay negate the pan ofof the sanctions. what i recommend this, i am not sure i can help them with the nato summit. th first piece of advice i havee always seen presidents get -- you better know where you're willing to go before you start investing in a deter, dissuade, and possibly confront strate. we're goioing to start positioning things further to -- yout, youou better and better know where you want to go. >> i think so far the focus on the summit planning has been on tin from to deter pu
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making mistakes in the nato territory. we see a readiness action land that will be unveiled at the summit that focuses very much on in the regular baltic states, with regard to poland. we wilill see an increase in defense spending. the military assistancnce to ukraine -- another round of ecomic sanctions, arms embargoes. there is a lot of progress made with regard to protecting nato itself. wititheds to be done regagard to ukraine. on top of that, , you have the takakeisis,hich may equal weight at the summit. >> speaking of the isis crisisis -- this is a major crisis on nato's doorstep.
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turkey is and dated with refugees. led campaign to topple gaddafi is coming back with a totally unhinged group. j jetse united emirates striking islamist targets in libya. what collective strategy does the alliance need for the middle east, given that is going to be a chunk of uncertainty that will plague us for many yearars, if t decades more? a a statement and the communiqueué describing the threat. i think you will see a a great deal of coersation about it. i think right now nato does nott have a formal goal with regard to either iraq or syria. administration is going bilaterally to the british, the french, maybe in the canadians to develop a coalition of the willing. to 1990, look back
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1991, when saddam hussein -- president orge h.w. bush created a very broad coalition. he involved not only nato members, but he also involved regional countries. i think the crical thing for the president to do is the sam thing. we're not going to solve the problelem immediately in that area. a couplehink we can do of steps. one wod be to stabilize iq. we shouldd involve the neighboring couountries. we should involve saudi arabia. s who havehe saudi not governmentallyut on an informalal basis supported somef these varied fundamentalist's. we need to enge turkrkey, of course. it will probably be not just natoto formally, but it will be
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nato members plus local arab countries, and putting that altogether, i think we can hahae a coalition that goes step-by-step. i would say first on iraq, and subsequely on syria. >> we have to goor a b break. upext, m more th our roundtable. be sure to head online for more covera
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>> welcome back to our
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roundtable. i want to finish up the syriaa point, because i know linc and hans, neither of you i've had a chance to comment on it. hans, what do you think? >> if you look at the preparations for the cardiff summit, it is likely the heads of state will say this isis phenenoma anis a "grave threat" to all of our nations. you cannot say that anand not te action to follow up on it. while it may be a coalition of the willing, natneeds to be seen as willing to work on this. i do not t think airstrikes will deal with the problem. >> especially with the number of westerners that have been fightingnd dying. much has and made of the fact that fully's executioner was speaking wh a british accent. >> as i look at this from the outside, what troubles me is the
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lack of connection and all of these issues, including be perception in asia of the west's capacity to address the crisis of the 21st-century. for nato, their whole theme is, europe whole and free. afghanistan operation was the first out of area operation. what is the legacy of that? will they ever go out a very again and under what terms? you just mentioned europeans going to point isis and beheading americans. which feeds back into their law enforcement and homela security establishments in a very adverse way. we could be in fighting at levels within nato and playing point defense, if i can put it that way, without thinking about the large it -- larger strategic picture. putin and his volunteers -- >> they were merely going on
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vacation at the crimean beaches and happen to in the neighbhood. >> they are operating off the books in a war and piece way. that is a big de. where would i look for for relief? obviously people in government are looking the tools t that they have. i think they should start to think seriously -- w what coulde do in the media space? i was hearing on a number network today that in russia, nobody knows there are troops in ukraine. nobody knows about it. speech today about the fascist nature of the threat. this is what is being heard inside the information space. the same is true in the arab world. if you look on television, all you see are babies dying in gaza d nothing about corruption and the role of iran. >> they have been very effective playing that strategy. i do want to move this to china reedley. there is a sense that the pivot
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is an american thing. in the event that there is a shooting war between the united states in b beijing, article e e goes up. what is the alliance wide view of asia? perhaps even starting with the summit? six nato members participated in the exercises. that is a really important step. i think the other way nato messages this is a partnership. that will come out next week in the summit. it will not only be partners like japan, australia and the asia-pacific theater, but it is working with nato partners in the middle east. in 2011 certainly true with the libya operati. how do bng g gauge these partners so nato was thfirst multiplier in this relationship? >> i know you have written
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extensively on this. in has been seen in europe as a pivot away from europe. i think the administration has been trying to correct that come in to argue that europe and the united states havve to coordinae much more carefully in dealing with asia and with the chinese challenge we're seeing there. frank was right. there is a commonaty between what we're seeing from china and russia. it is a challenge to liberal democratic values that the united states and its allies have held dear. that is a global challenge. europe has to pay attention to what is going on in asia. that does not mean a lot of force structure there. we play off european strengths. institutions, norms, etc.. >> we have a minute. i want to go around the corner really quickly. this is a pretty nato. isthere going to be -- this
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a threat to nato.. is there going to be collective action and do we see an increase in defensepending by these countries? these have to be pretty much yes and no answers. >> there will be a pledge to reverse the decline. i think the assumptions have been proven false. we will have to see increases and the united states and europe. >> i do purport -- predict a strong statement and more resources. i am not sure there is a strategic pathway to improve things long-term. >> strong statement, strong response from poland, the baltic states about increasing defense spendiding. watch finland. they will be interesting partners to nato in the future. >> frank, you get the last word. >> strong statement. the critical country as germany, spending 1.3 percent of its gdp on defense. it is rich enough. if we can get the germans to up it, we're going to do it. >> everybody, thanks very much for doing g it. we appreciate it. when we return, our pentagon
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reporter o whether the
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>> defense secretary chuck hagel at has said that operations to roll back islamic militants mighght drive the pentagon to sk more money. joining us our defense correspondent to talk about whether u.s. operations in iraq as well as puking crisis could mean more money for geode -- as well as the ukraine crisis could mean more money r dod. thanks for joining us. what have you found in reporting this? >> he pentagon could end up needing to ask for more money. in what cases could that happen? one, the current operation is andely involved airstrikes intetelligence. it escalates. it either spreads over a wider area or escates by sending an something like roundtrips. >> and of course we hahave airlt
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opations -- >> a lot o airdrops. >> spec ops. where would this money come from? we are in a budget terribly budgetaly limited environment. up a fewentt the ones months a asell. they could send up a budget amendment. that is essesentially a a separe bill. contingency -- that is about $60 billion. >> what ththey couldo, they could go back and modify the existing oco they have. that account is not subject to sequestration or budget caps. it would be an easy ple for them to going get money. >> you are traveling with secretary hagel to the summit.
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tell the folks about the coverage they will seehile you're working 24 hours a day? >> you will see me trading. you willll see stories that, blogs at interceptsts blog. at the nato response t to the ice is threat. also getting lost t in everythig -- troop levels in afghanistan. >> inks very much for joining us. thanks for watching. visit us at for more on ththis story and nationals coverage o and international defense, cluding special covera of nato. we will have aook at jan. i am vago madian. i will b
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