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>> today on "matter of fact." they love to poke fun at her on >> it' s a wasserman schultz original. >> but debbie wasserman schultz has a more serious role as chair of the democratic national committee. >> i really just want donald trump to keep talking. >> and, california congressman dana rohrabacher. he hasn' t changed his views on climate change, and he' s not about to now. >> it' s all bogus. we' ve been given bogus numbers. >> plus, arab american stand-up comic dean obeidallah uses humor to challenge stereotypes about muslims. but today' s news from the middle
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fernando: i' m fernando espuelas. welcome to "matter of fact." as chair of the democratic national committee, deborah wasserman schultz is always in the spotlight, whether she is leading the charge for her own party or under attack from the opposition. her strategic decisions will help determine the outcome of the next election. donald trump recently said you were crazy and neurotic. is he right? >> well i really just want , donald trump to keep talking. his misogynistic alienating comments through the duration of this campaign have shown exactly where the core of the republican party is today. instead of the rest of the republican field criticizing him and distancing themselves, they' ve been doing everything they can to embrace his
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with his views because he is clearly attracting the base of the republican party. that is going to be the key to any of them ultimately becoming the nominee. fernando: now as you know, there' s some calculus which say that a republican needs at least 40% to 47% of the hispanic vote to win. at the same time, and this is sort of pivoting to a supreme court case that is trying to decide again what is one man/one vote. the background to that would seem to be an attempt to try to win elections without fully winning the electorate. what do you think about that supreme court case? where do you stand on it? >> the evenwel case, which will be argued on december 8th in front of the supreme court, is one of the most significant dangers to the principal of one person/one vote that we' ve had really since the three-fifths
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s a republican party executive committee member in texas, sue evenwal, who sued to require legislative districts in texas to be drawn, excluding the population of individuals who are not eligible to vote. which includes children. in the hispanic community for example, 55% of the hispanic population are under 18 years old. which would mean that you would have districts drawn without regard to counting children for purposes of representation. people who are legal permanent residents, and what that would do, just in a small snapshot is -- let' s say you have a legislative district that has a disproportionate number of children. in a heavily hispanic community, that would be the case.
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funding based on population. the census uses formulaic determinations based on population. and if your not counting people who can' t vote, then you are discounting from representation a huge percentage of the population. 28% of the american population is not eligible to vote, and that' s who people, the republicans, are trying to discount. they' re trying to win elections through rigging the outcome rather than on the merits, because they can' t win the elections on the merits. fernando: there' s now another attempt to overturn obamacare. i' m not sure of the count now, 60-some votes that have been taken thus far. this seems to be a position with more teeth and capacity to be approved. is there any chance that the affordable care act will be overturned? >> not while obama is president.
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s why it is important to elect another democratic president, so we can continue to expand on access to quality affordable healthcare. i' m a breast cancer survivor. i was diagnosed with breast cancer when i was 41 years old, out of the clear blue sky. one day, i was the picture of health. the next day, i had breast cancer. the thing my parents told me my whole life proved very true. if you don' t have your health, you don' t have anything. and so what the republicans have been trying to do is deny that peace of mind, and ability for illness to be caught early, for people to get the kind of preventative care that they need to keep themselves healthy. so as long as we have enough democrats in the senate or a majority in the senate and white ll be able to stop that from happening. the republicans, what they need to do is just acknowledge that obamacare is here to stay. ve had two supreme court
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we' ve consistently taken 60 votes, and they still have not be able to repeal it. it' s unacceptable that they keep trying to repeal it. let' s work together. no law is perfect. we acknowledge that. let' s sit down and work together to try to iron out some of the problems together, while acknowledging that health care should be a right, not a privilege. fernando: last question. there' s a tendency among the republican candidates to declare that the united states is in deep trouble, that it' s in decline. that the economy' s the worst it' s ever been. what do you say to the american people in an objective package, what' s the state of america today? >> the state of america today is that we have come through, under president obama' s leadership during his administration, the worst economic crisis since the great depression. i would ask the american people to take a look at, over the last number of decades, think about when we have had economic
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s been when a republican has been president, and it has taken a democratic president to pull us out of that crisis. that' s happened consistently each time we have had those waves. fernando: we' re just two weeks from the democrat' s third major network debate in manchester, new hampshire. but there' s no debate about how much is at stake for both parties. >> up next if you believe in , global warming, then you might not believe what this congressman has to say next: >> if you believe that only 1% of the scientists disagree with the co2 global warming theory, then you aren' t doing your job. >> and, he' s a groundbreaking arab american comic who has turned his stage into a platform
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generic drugs. because we've got to get health care costs under control for lynn's family and for yours. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. on-the-job training for president does not work. benghazi, beheadings, paris. our lives depend on a commander-in-chief with experience, who understands the world. time is of the essence. negotiation, ambivalence or delay, are not acceptable. the first with a plan to destroy isis? john kasich. new day for america is responsible for the content of this advertising. some have asked why the world would dedicate our focus to combating climate change even as we work to , protect our people and go
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the reason is because this one trend, climate change, affects all trends. fernando: president obama went to the u.n. climate conference in paris seeking universal agreement on climate change from but he' ll have to use his powers of persuasion here at home to convince congress to support his plans for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. what will he say to some representatives who believe global warming is a fraud? i spoke with california congressman dana rohrabacher, vice chair of the house science, space, and technology committee. >> frankly, i think they' re going at the whole issue at the there' s always been climate changing in the history of this planet. climate has always changed. if they want to help people who are currently being injured by
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things that are changing as they naturally do, that' s a great thing. but if they' re trying to say they' re going to control the climate, i think they' re way out of line and are going to waste a lot of money and a lot of time. fernando: sir, as you know, the consensus of scientists across the world, which is why they' re negotiating, is that since 1900, the industrial revolution has in fact created a shift in how the climate changes, and we' re seeing this pattern repeated over the last decade where each year is hotter than the next with some anomalies. >> it is bogus. we' ve been given bogus numbers. there' s lots of stories now, and people have actually done research. noted scientists have gone in to research how the books have been changed. the figures have been changed in order to make it appear there is more warming than there is.
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from the sun has caused these changes in the temperature throughout the history of the world. fernando: the consensus of the national academy of scientists across the world, universities, 190 countries, companies of all sorts are investing in new actually demonstrated that climate change is a real business. i' m wondering which scientists you' re citing? >> there are thousands of scientists that have signed on to letters. and if you haven' t seen that, that means that you' re not studying the issue. there are scientists on both sides of this issue, but the scientists that disagree with the global warming theory don' t get the coverage. fernando: so what would you say to the national academy of sciences, they' re wrong? >> which academy of sciences are you talking to? fernando: the united states, the american -- >> there are several academies of scientists that don' t agree with this. fernando: which one, sir? >> well, how about the former soviet union, now russia. they have an academy of
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i spoke to the chairman of the academy of sciences in russia on a number of occasions, and he pointed out to me where global warming as being presented to us in the united states is wrong. i know that people don' t want to look at that alternative. it' s not all the scientists are saying that we' re changing the climate. fernando: sir, so let me make sure i understand. so you' re willing to say that the american national academy of sciences is incorrect, but a country, russia, which is a dictatorship, that is an oil petro state which needs to sell petroleum in order to survive, that their scientists controlled by the government, but our scientists -- >> no, what i' m saying is that there' s truth and that your idea about trying to poison someone' s at the arguments that' s being presented and the scientific research, is not the way to
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you can tell me that 99% of all people believe that cows can fly, and i would say ' no, i don' t think cows can fly.' i' m only one, and the fact that 99% of the people say opposite, i don' t care. well, right now, i don' t care if all kinds of scientists who' ve had government grants that have been given to them specifically, to prove global warming by the way, i don' t know that you' re trying to say that government grants have not been given to people specifically to come up with the conclusion that global warming exists? you don' t think that' s happened? fernando: well, lets talk about your analogy. we know that laws of physics do not allow cows to fly, so that' s impossible. but we do know that scientists are working all across the world, and scientists coming from diverse countries including china and india and australia, etc., have determined that its actually a manmade phenomenon. >> and there are other
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to the meeting because they didn' t get the grants from the bureaucrats of those countries to attend the meeting. fernando: so you' re saying that 99% of the scientists are wrong, and 1% of the scientists are right? >> it' s not 1%. if you believe that only 1% of the scientists disagree with the co2 global warming theory, then you aren' t doing your job. s a much higher percentage than that. it is such a miniscule part of the atmosphere that it does not impact on the temperature of the planet except in a very miniscule way. fernando: clearly, the topic of climate change raises passionate feelings on all sides. it will be up to the negotiators in paris to finalize the deal as they continue through the week. >> coming up on "matter of fact," he doesn' t fit any stereotype. as a matter of fact, his job is
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but find it harder and harder to get by, you're not alone. while our people work longer hours for lower wages, almost all new income goes to the top 1%. my plan -- make wall street banks and the ultrarich pay their fair share of taxes, provide living wages for working people, ensure equal pay for women. i'm bernie sanders. i approve this message because together, we can make a political revolution and create an economy and democracy that works for all
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fernando: his unique background provides him with a rare perspective, which he has turned into an unusual career as a comedian. dean obeidallah uses political satire and humor to fight racism. but for this arab american from new jersey, fighting stereotypes is not just part of his act. i spoke with him on skype. fernando: it seems somewhat of a preposterous concept that muslims have to specifically speak up against isis. as if anybody is responsible for isis except isis itself. what do you feel in terms of the generalized pressure in the media to single out muslims? not necessarily accusing muslims of anything, but it seems like there is a broad brush being used here. >> well, there is. and the narrative is -- muslims, we don' t hear you denouncing terrorism. we hear that all the time. and that somehow means we' re complicit in it. first, there' s a bigger question of why should i have to denounce someone i have no connection to. isis are not doing things that are based on my faith as a
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accordance to a political agenda to take land and to take control. that' s exactly why they are fighting al qaeda. if it was really about some true form of islam that isis and al qaeda subscribe to, then they wouldn' t be killing each other. but getting apart from that, we want to come out there and make it clear to our fellow americans number-one victims are muslims. they slaughtered men, women, and children. the u.n. has documented this. ve written about this in articles. we like to be in the media more making the case, but we are not the gatekeepers of the media. i along with many muslim americans are literarily begging bookers at different networks to come on and make our case. to make it clear we despise isis more than non-muslims because they are killing people in the name of our faith. they are killing innocent people and defining islam in the name of isis. it clear isis doesn' t define us. anybody. the number-one victim of isis it' s hard just getting in the media, to be frank. fernando: and these are such heavy issues and certainly they
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how do you make humor out of them? humor is so powerful. satire is so powerful. how do you make that happen? >> well, sometimes it' s more specific instances of issues m not making this up. the idea that they actually ban skinny jeans near fighting, and it' s not for women because women have to cover up. it' s for guys, because some of the isis fighters were getting distracted by men wearing skinny jeans. so these guys are like, "look, i want to fight a holy war, but basalm is beautiful. i have to cover the guy up." so you try to mock isis for not only being barbaric but just it' that' s why there are comedians in the middle east risking their lives to mock isis on tv and in the media because that' s their tools. they want people to be less afraid of isis and make it a cathartic release, and mock they' re barbaric morons. fernando: and as you look forward and we get past this election,
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already happened, what do you think is going to happen? do you think we are going to recover some sense of normalcy and balance -- muslim americans and the rest of society? >> well, if there is a president trump, i might be talking to you from an internment camp. we' s going to happen with that guy. my hope is once we get past the election cycle things can calm down. we can have conversations, reach out to our fellow americans as much as were trying to. only 25% of americans know a that' that' s why on my radio show on sirius xm, i literally start every show with, "hey, i am dean obeidallah, and i want to be your muslim friend." because i sincerely believe in the power of having a human counter-narrative out there to answer your questions so when you see isis, you know a muslim you can say, "what' s this really about?" we can have that discussion, so hopefully in time things calm down. fernando: finding even the smallest amount of comedy in the face of overwhelming tragedy has the ability to bring people together, because it' s one of the traits that makes us all human.
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fernando identifies the most dangerous security risk facing america today. for lynn's family, the big stress is paying four hundred dollars a month in medical and drug costs for aidan. for other families it's higher deductibles, premiums and co-pays that keep adding up. that's why we've got to crack down on price gouging, cap out-of-pocket costs, and fast track approval of less expensive generic drugs. because we've got to get health care costs under control
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fernando: talk is cheap, but the stakes are even higher in paris at the most important climate change conference in history. you will hear politicians deliver florid speeches, but that is not enough. a global consensus of scientists is warning us that unless we act quickly against manmade global warming, we will seriously damage the planet, making it incapable of supporting life as we know it. rising seas, violent weather, and drought are some of the most visible symptoms of climate change today. even the pentagon calls it one of the most dangerous national security risks facing america. will major polluters like china, india, and the united states agree to diminish carbon pollution? to move forward, let' s demand
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this emergency with seriousness, courage to implement real solutions. tweet me and use #matteroffact. connect with us anytime on twitter, facebook, or our website, matteroffact.tv. >> when we return, how you feel affects how you vote. fernando has the bottom line. if you're doing everything right but find it harder and harder to get by, you're not alone. while our people work longer hours for lower wages, almost all new income goes to the top 1%. my plan -- make wall street banks and the ultrarich pay their fair share of taxes, provide living wages for working people, ensure equal pay for women. i'm bernie sanders. i approve this message because together, we can make a political revolution and create an economy and democracy that works for all
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fernando: we are an unhappy nation. even with a rebounding economy and rising incomes, polls consistently show americans are in a sour mood. the 2008 economic collapse shook the nation to the core. and surely the defeatist rhetoric regularly espoused by some politicians, and uncritically reported by the media, has contributed to this collective sense of decline. exploiting fear is much easier than inspiring people, which is why politicians from both
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with predictions of economic mass destruction. but an objective review of america' s strengths undermines the fear-mongering. as citizens, we have an obligation to question these declarations of darkness, failure, and doom. perhaps then, we will elect true leaders while rejecting dangerous demagogues. and that is the bottom line. i am fernando espuelas. have a great week. on-the-job training for president does not work. benghazi, beheadings, paris. our lives depend on a commander-in-chief with experience, who understands the world. time is of the essence. negotiation, ambivalence or delay, are not acceptable. the first with a plan to
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john kasich. new day for america is responsible for the content of this advertising. for lynn's family, the big stress is paying four hundred dollars a month in medical and drug costs for aidan. for other families it's higher deductibles, premiums and co-pays that keep adding up. that's why we've got to crack down on price gouging, cap out-of-pocket costs, and fast track approval of less expensive generic drugs. because we've got to get health care costs under control for lynn's family and for yours. i'm hillary clinton and i
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