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the surprise compromise on capitol hill. >> in divided government, you don' t get everything you want. s really in the massive spending bill? there are 1.1 trillion reasons to find out. plus, judging a candidate by their full body of work. how it affects your vote. then, will trying times in baltimore give voice to a new generation of leaders? >> this is the result of a bipartisan, bicameral compromise. and i think everybody can point to something that gives them a reason to be in favor of both of these bills.
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welcome to "matter of fact." deal to avoid a government shutdown. the $1.1 trillion deal funds the government through september, and includes language that will affect immigration law, obamacare, 9/11 first responders what really went on behind the scenes? let' s talk to someone in the democratic caucus chair xavier becerra. doesn' negotiates and compromises. people want more compromise. do you think you got enough for your site to make this palatable? rep. becerra: well the difficulty is the american people want to see us work together and compromise. it' s important for us to come to common ground, but you have to be able to know what' s being done, what' s being discussed and
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s a common ground to reach. this unfortunately is another example of why the american people are so cynical about washington politics. it' s not done democratically, it' s not done transparently, certainly not done openly, and at the end of the day, the 147 million americans who paid taxes, filed tax returns, are going to be paying special interests, whether it' s corporations or very wealthy individuals can get special tax , breaks that those 140 million americans in the majority will not get. so that' s what' s difficult. fernando: and also, though, i understand democrats were able to get extensions for tax credits on renewable energy. do you think that' s positive? do you think it is enough? rep. becerra: clearly there' s always something that' s put in there to make it appetizing for you to want to bite. but as i said, there' s a time and a place for everything.
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certain segments of the population? fine. when times are good, we' ve got the money, we can do those kinds of tax breaks, fine. but right now we' re still making it out of that recession from the bush years, we' re still trying to enhance our safety so that we don' t see san bernardino, charleston, colorado springs, newtown, connecticut, occur where countless americans are senselessly slaughtered, including children. we want to feel safe that if we go to work, go to school, or go to our place of worship, we' re going to be safe. security should be our first concern. so rather than passing legislation that will add $650 billion to the deficit, since we' re putting it on the government credit card to give these tax breaks to mostly wealthy people and corporations, let' s give the money to the fbi and the things that make us feel safer at home with our community policing so that security is what we get. first fernando: if you could explain to our audience, we' ve been in a situation the last few
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lower the expenses of the government, meant to try to rein in the deficit. are you saying now that those caps, i know they' re being moved around, but are they totally gone and now there is an incremental $600 billion expenditure that' s not paid for? rep. becerra: remember fernando, that the so-called sequester law, which i voted against, was meant to be so ugly that we would never let it take effect. it has, and so we have to undo it. but trying to claw back some of those crazy cuts. why would you cut money to the national institute of health, which is trying to help find a cure for cancer? find a cure for diabetes, that' s what the sequester did. it said we' re just going to cut across the board, including nih. so yeah, we have to do that. but if the price of having to undo that is having to swallow $$650 billion in tax breaks? for only special interests?
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you know we' re robbing peter to , give to very rich pauls. and i don' t think americans are saying that' s our number one priority. i think most americans are saying their number one priority is our security. our personal security, homes, places of worship, work, our national security for all americans, and our economic security. make sure that my kids can go to college. help me make sure that i can buy that house. help me make sure that when i retire, i' ve got security. fernando: chairman becerra has one year remaining in his position as house democratic caucus leader. >> it' s not just what they' re saying, but how. can a candidate' s stage presence tell you where they stand on the issues?
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fernando: the 2016 presidential election has already had its share of theatrics.
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jeb bush and donald trump. gov. bush: if you think this is tough and you are not being treated fairly, what will it be like dealing with putin or president xi, for terrorism? this is a tough business. mr. trump: you are a tough guy, jeb. fernando: will style be as s time for you to vote? maybe more than you realize, according to body language expert chris ulrich. there' s some personal animosity. we have seen over five debates , the two of them kind of go at it. in this debate i think with trump, when he and bush are going back and forth, he' s much calmer in his body language. he' s this powerful entity and force. he' s grandiose in his body language. with bush, he' s much more nervous. he comes across as nervous, his facial expressions are nervous and where he gets nervous or when he gets angry rather than , show us that anger, he will reflect this kind of fake smile
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and it comes across lacking genuineness or authenticity in that moment. with bush he' s very active and nervous that there. so in their exchanges back and forth we see this between the two of them. fernando: am i imagining things? governor bush seems to pull back, literally leaning back as trump is speaking to him? chris: yes, and its not the first time we' ve seen it. gov. bush: he' s a chaos candidate. chris: rather than stand back he kind of stays on his assault of mr. trump, and in those moments comes across more powerful. we even see, fernando, the anger on his face. we see anger. the brows come down, the jaw gets tight. he says, i' m talking, i' m talking, giving you a llittle bit of your own medicine that kind of rhetoric. fernando: so governor bush got a coach to help him debate better. do you see that progression? do you think the involvement of the expert that told him not to chris: it' s interesting, that smile, when we see that smile,
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is feeling in that moment. it is better than what we' ve seen in the past. but i think those moments are opportunities missed. if we had seen, he actually shows us what we call micro expressions. it is a leaked demonstration of the emotion you' re really feeling. and by letting us see that, we can connect with him in that moment, versus, what, wait why is he smiling in this? what we see is that smile hiding tension. so i felt like he was much better in this debate but it' s taken five debates for him to show up like this. keep in mind we' re under the , lights, the lights are bright, you' re engaged in this confrontation. turn to them and when we face our belly button in their direction. rule. we face our belly button in the direction of people we like, admire or trust, or going at in a confrontational posture. trump, you see it as he' s being ll do this eye close. s almost like a blocking gesture. he' s trying to block them out. he does a great deal, trump does a great deal of facial mugging. ll see this. he will demonstrate micro
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disgust. where the nose wrinkles, we' ll see the teeth and he also demonstrates a lot of anger in these moments, as well, when he' s lashing out or attacking back. he will explode in his body language, which is kind of fitting and authentic for him. he is this big persona, a big personality. he talks about making america great, he goes into this giant what we call savior' s pose and his arms will be out here like, follow me and he has these chopping gestures. he' ll also do this ok steeple, which is follow me, everything will be ok. it' s power, authority, control in a way that says, "i' m your guy, follow me," and the chop says "i' ll cut through the bs, i' ll cut through the bureaucracy, i will make america great again." his movements are integrated. what i mean by that is that the full body will be engaged in implementation of that. he brings a pressure into his body, you' ll see a downward pressure movement in his upper body to his legs, and that is something you can' t fake. you can fake gestures. you can be coached on how you
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that' s one of the reasons people supporters is, "that' because he' he' he' america great again physically fernando: and in contrast ted obviously but he seems to rub a , lot of people the wrong way, sometimes it' s the way he delivers it. chris: with him, part of his baseline is you see his eyebrows pinch in and up, and he has this it also marks like, sympathy. i' m here for you. but it comes across kind of contrived for him. in those moments, it may affect his likability or whether we' re seeing him very scripted and prepared versus an authentic presentation of what he has to say. on top of that, he will pause a great deal in this cadence. so in those moments we see several things. one, he' s calm as you know, in his demeanor. but you see him speed up. you see his eye blink rate increase. we blink about 25 seconds a minute.
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of pressure for him, we see the blink rate increase very fast. his cadence in which he speaks there' he' s usually very open in his body language. he kind of hunches down as he tries to answer that question, and he starts to point and push down on the podium, indicating heightened stress, heightened anxiety, him deviating from his baseline of calm, cool, collected, the go to guy in a pressure situation. fernando: how do you read chris christie? chris: what i think he did by turning to the camera and speaking into the camera, he took the conversation away from being part of this debate and elevating himself above the fray. literally that comes back to pointing your belly button in the direction of people we like, admire and trust. i' m going to speak right to the american people. that kind of his approach their -- that is kind of his approach there. fernando: body language. an interesting dynamic to watch >> next -- >> justice is about the
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it has nothing to do with whether you are black, white, asian, or latino. >> a conversation with farajii muhammad shines new light on baltimore. and, millennial voters, ignore the big stress is paying in medical and drug costs for aidan. for other families it's higher deductibles, premiums and co-pays that keep adding up. that's why we've got to crack down on price gouging, cap out-of-pocket costs, and fast track approval of less expensive generic drugs. because we've got to get health care costs under control for lynn's family i'm hillary clinton and i
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fernando: when protests erupted in baltimore last april, many people didn' t understand why. but it was no mystery to farajii he' s a native son who co-founded a youth development group at age 19. today, he hosts a show on public radio and directs a youth empowerment program for the american friends services committee. on wednesday, when a hung jury was declared in the freddie gray trial, was it a failure of justice? i connected with farajii via skype. farajii: it' s not something new for us. we have seen, and i' m saying we in terms of the black community, we have gone down this road before where officers have gone on trial and there have been some convictions recently but
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led to a mistrial such as this or a not guilty verdict. i think the big thing about this issue, fernando, is not gray had his spine broken while in custody of six officers but more that the culture of policing is on trial today. based upon what they' done or what they think is good, s right. fernando: well, i wanted to ask because for many people across the country, they know obviously, they' ve heard of baltimore, but may not know the tremendous poverty there is in that city, and the desperation that really has been there for decades and decades. you, however are doing something , about it and have been doing it since the age of 19. you are creating leadership programs. what are you doing and why? farajii: well, i serve as the director of peace by piece in baltimore, which is a program of
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committee. afsc has always been about peace, justice and unity and that work continues because peace by piece is a collective of young activists that are serving in baltimore, to make sure that the next generation don' t fall victim to the larger issues of injustice and inequality and to grow up in , violent neighborhoods. you know, when we talk about violence, you have to get to the root of violence, and violence can come from a lot of different places. but it' s essentially, young people have to see themselves differently. they have to have some new opportunities presented to them, and most importantly they have to be well-supported in growing up in a neighborhood, in a community that truly values them. fernando: and what' s your vision? what does baltimore look like in say, 10 years when all these young people are now grown up and have had this opportunity of leadership and understanding, what they can do to impact the outcome of their own
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farajii: well, a couple of things, one we want to see that the city government has more opportunities and more programs that will teach and train and empower the next generation. do we expect the next ten years for everything to be cleaned up and for us to live in an idyllic world where there is peace and love and happiness? no. however, we do expect it to be a more informed constituency of young brothers and sisters, of latino brothers and sisters. we want more young people to feel like baltimore city and all across the country to have a place where young people feel they are safe, and that they can grow up and enjoy life. and at the end of the day, that they can be what they say they want to be. fernando: i will have more s young leaders in future programs and on our website, >> coming up next, they play by a different set of rules that could determine the next
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fernando: the millennial generation is officially the largest population group in the country. and potentially the largest voting bloc, if they turn out to vote. what are they looking for from candidates this season? we asked them. >> tuition and getting that down. >> the only issue i really care about, seeing that i have family that comes from a different country, is always the immigration topic and how it should be handled better. >> the topic that i' ve cared about the most in the political debates is the black lives matter movement. >> coming together with other nations to find a direction of where we can go in the future. fernando: so how do candidates reach the coveted millennial voting bloc? i spoke with lenny alcivar, director of targeted victory. lenny: the first thing that any campaign on the left and on the right has to remember about millennials is, yes, they' re comprising a disproportionately large amount of the electorate.
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understanding that unlike any previous generation, they' ve seen -- and the first mistake any presidential campaign makes and bigger campaigns make is they pander. fernando: give me an example of pandering? what' s one of the things you see and you cringe? lenny: one of the things we see on the left and the right is campaigns running to the next cool social media platform, right? and it' s a big mistake for a campaign who maybe doesn' t have as good a messenger or a message yet to try and spend tons of money on snapchat and not do it well. millennials, just like any other voter, can really tell autheniticity. so it' s better to be authentic and have a real message that resonates than it is to just be on every new platform. fernando: this is a generation that has grown up in a time of crisis, wars and economic mass destruction a few years ago.
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of people? lenny: number one, they have gone through the politics of 9/11. they' re going through the politics of war now. they tend because of that to not be so tied to political parties that our generations might have. fernando: if you' re one of these big brand name candidates -- hillary clinton, or donald trump -- how does that play into millennials, do they care? do they see value in that? lenny: for example, donald trump and some of the heated rhetoric may be a challenge for these voters on the right. on the left, you would think that the historic nature of hillary clinton would inspire younger women millennials, they' re not really inspired yet. and that' s because i think the messaging isn' t really there so both sides have some work to do. fernando: do these strategies work for you?
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#matteroffact connect with us anytime on twitter, facebook or our new website, >> what do hong kong and switzerland have over the u.s.? better education scores than students in this country. what' s changed? praised as one of america's best mayors who governed as a pragmatist. bernie sanders passed more amendments in a republican congress than any other member. cracked the gridlock to strengthen veterans' healthcare. a consistent, principled, building a future to believe in. sanders: i'm bernie sanders
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fernando: with president obama' s signature, america' s experimentation with federal control of public schools is over. the no child left behind law has been replaced by the every student succeeds act. while washington will continue to have a say, most power is now back at the state and local levels, closer to the students. think of all the innovation that will be sparked by so many people, all across the country, thinking about how to improve our expensive and sometimes mediocre education system. if you measure math skills, we are ranked 27th in the world. and in science, we under perform as well, ranked at 20th.
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with those bad grades. just remember, this new law will only work if you get involved. no one cares more about the education of your child more -- no one cares about the education of the child more than you do. be active with your pta and school administration. inform yourself about how the new standards will be applied and share your constructive criticism. you have an important voice in this debate. use it. that' s the bottom line. i' m fernando espuelas. have a great week. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] people are working harder than ever, but the everyday cost of perscriptions, child care, or even just buying groceries can be a stretch for too many families. hillary's plan: raise the minimum wage, get equal pay for women, cut taxes for the middle class, and new incentives for business to share profits with employees instead of just rewarding ceos. those at the top are doing just fine.
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