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i voted for burning the spring and is against northern pass and the death penalty. i'm the only one with a pan for -- plan for paid family leave. this is a progressive state, i represent the future of new hampshire. >> and let's go to the executive counselor, colin. >> ben ostrom came to new hampshire to work for jeanne hampshire to work for jeanne shaheen's first bid for u.s. in firm and was brand manager at the farm. he is in his second term on the executive council and lives with his wife into children. colin: im running for governor to keep new hampshire moving forward. i am a dad of two young boys. i have been working on the
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investing in renewal and clean energy. josh: let's get a quick biography from mark connolly. mark connolly is a native of bedford and has an mba from northwestern. he was elected to the new hampshire house, serving bedford. he worked in the business world and served as assistant secretary of of the bureau securities regulation. he lives in newcastle and is engaged to be married. mark: honored to be here i have fought for new hampshire families. it is the kind of leadership i will bring.
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for the concord monitor. first question is going to go to steve march and but it will be directed to all of you at one point. roughly three quarters of the electorate don't know enough about the candidates on stage tonight to form an opinion. with that in mind, tell us about personal sacrifice that has helped you become who you are. generation american. a bankruptcy from a health care crisis when i was in high school, it helps inform public policy. if it wasn't for great public education at cost for clark elementary school, i wouldn't you here today. if we had medicaid expansion back then, we wouldn't have the crisis. realize you can't do it all by
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conduct my campaign. we include folks that may be don't start at the top on day one. josh: can you name a personal challenge? steve marchand: i'd -- colin van ostern: i don't view it as a sacrifice but i was mainly raised by a single mom. we moved around a lot. when i moved to new hampshire for a job, it it was the 18th home i ever ve i'm so passionate about how this can be for me. the best place in the country to live and work and raise a family and grow business. when talk about restoring planned parenthood funding or the vote that i cast the deciding vote in extending medicaid health care coverage to 50,000 fellow citizens. i think about what it's like to
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views. mind in the private sector working his counselor and as a democrat. mark connolly: i can tell you i'm a new hampshire native and my parents divorced when i was five years old. my brother and myself, we moved every year. and i was told i was a remedial learner. and a great schoolteacher picked up the fac that so many kids, i went from the remedial last to the advanced class. whole life has been about understanding what it like not to have much. i remember one time we were living when i was nine years old inside of new hampshire. we had to hide the car in the woods because the mother could not make her car payment. these of the kind of things going on in the country today where people don't have a lot. i want to give back to the people that have done so much for me.
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government can help people. they can really make a difference in people's lives. josh: let's go to the panel. john: the first question is on the opioid crisis. a question for each of you. the state alcohol fund which is supposed to provide money for treatment and recovery programs has been rated almost constantly since the inception. this left critical ic ability to deal with the ongoing abuse epidemic. what you commit to ensuring the mandated 5% of all state alcohol sales go toward fighting addiction and if so, how will you do that? colin van ostern: i will. i have. it was part of the opioid plan i put forward in this campaign and one of the key five points from a nonprofit and nonpartisan group that is put together a plan for how to stem
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funding. one is the alcohol fund and another is making it permanent. i talked about access to health care coverage. part of that, 50,000 of our fellow citizens. part of that coverage includes substance abuse disorder. an area where we have had a low treatment capacity in the tide by bringing access to treatment. en brought $608 million of our own taxes back in new hampshire. i have met individuals and recovery counseling others about what life without heroin is like. we can commit to overcoming this crisis. john: the police chief stepped in to state politics last year, calling out the states drugs
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wozniacki resign until he eventually stepped down seven months later. should they have mostly on -- more closely monitor that work? mark connolly: this issue is a big issue. i can tell you my plan, basically, get the drugs are and emergency management head and come up with short-term meetings for a long-term plan. we try to it and that's not working. it means rehabilitation. i would increase the tobacco tax by $.10. and the drug and rehabilitation substance abuse fund. this is not a six million dollar problem. as a $25 million problem. we have to stop politicizing this. >> state officials have been criticized for failing to
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implemented much sooner. in response to this question >> we all have to admit that we were a little slow a few years ago to realize the magnitude of the challenge and some of the options that might be available. the second thing i would say and this is predating any t at the seacoast and developing operating budgets. it really good job of recovery with a dose of prevention as well. i came up with an $8 million plan. it is remarkably little additional money but it has to be hyper targeted locally. one thing i would note whether it is the alcohol fund or
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want things that matter and what you will hear outside of a $.10 tobacco increase is not mu about the need for increased revenue. but we needed to deal with them of these issues. >> i have a difference of opinion on that. i have come up specific ideas of bringing revenue to the state. i've talked about the tobacco cat -- tax, gasoline tax, i've talked about reasonable compensation. transfer pricing, county mechanisms. i believe it is $20 million to $30 million. i did say that the rates should be kept where they are. but to bring them back up is not good for business. that is the wrong characterization.
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do with throats and bridges. i would bring it back to the rate it had been prior to last year. we call it a big corporate tax giveaway. i disagree with 2016: on the issue. it was a bad idea last year. the third one, i would legalize and tax marijuana. the only one serious about revenue. i try to lowball that to be conservative in my estimate. mark connolly: it's important to focus on how we move the state forward. it's because of the scale of how much it hurts the state.
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the rest of us. it's a great way to keep taxes low. >> we've got to move forward. dave: it has been three years since the state settled a major lawsuit over the treatment of granite state. granite state. agreeing to spend an additional july issued a scathing report seeing the state has failed to keep its promises leaving patients without treatment. m -- appropriately institutionalized. how will you approach this problem? starting with mr. marcia?
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seriously the fact that independent parties have looked at this and come to the conclusion that while there has been progress made, it's not the kind that has been aspired to. i can look at a number of issues but something i said a moment ago, it's hard to look at the evaluation of the independent party. part of the problem in the report. quantity of service. some of the best practices being employed. i am a guy -- it's hard to come to a conclusion.
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terms of making a much better effort. i will tell you that we have brought in $150 million to the federal government over the next five years. this money should create an integrated system. housing has to be integrated. we have to look at the individual in terms of all of those areas. for the first time in 20 years, they have the money to do it. we have to get the putting the resource where they are most needed. >> unfortunately, it's like life. it's quicker to tear down a bar and then build a new one. and through a couple bad budgets in the recession and folks in the legislature, we ended up in a pretty bad place which is where we had been digging out of today. there are specific things we can do.
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the $30 million for each of the next five years to bring behavioral health into the primary care. there are things we can do as community leaders. you know, i sat with folks from both parties pledging to talk about how we can bring mental health out of the shadows. we make this work as a state. we have great mental health centers funded on keeping people well. josh: you can be as wonky as you need to be. >> polls show hillary clinton not trustworthy. all of you have signaled support for the democratic nominee. without using a donald trump
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the country? mark connolly: i think hillary clinton is qualified. i think she has gone through a hail storm of criticism and certainly she could've done her e-mails differently. i don't see any reason for us not to trust her abilities to be the next president of the united states. >> i will give you two reasons. she has admitted she has made mistakes. she is humali if you look at her career, i am inspired by her early work around the children's defense fund. standing up for kids that needed something. thinking about what we can do in new hampshire. she did that way before she was involved in politics he cut as she knew the kids of the nation needed a stronger voice.
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i think that she has shown over a long career and ability to perform at a high level. as the only one of your voted for birdie in the primary, 60% of primary voters chose bernie. it wasn't just a statement about hillary. it was a statement about the aspirations of where voters are. they want a level of authenticity. because i skate to where the puck is going, not to wear the pocket has been. and what bernie was talking about as a candidate was talking about where we need to go in a number of public policy areas. i try to model is much that i quality in my campaign this year. josh: issues in this race include climate change. as governor, was steps would you
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to wait in till then. i've already been working hard on the executive council to invest more in cleantech and clean energy. there are solar and renewable energy projects. plymdurhouth, , the largest in the state. raising the roof on the airport parking lot that i fought hard for. most of which got passed by a three-to vote and most a bipartisan te exception and start being the rule. you tend to bring down energy costs, create local jobs, and protect the environment. there is an area where the governor can lead a lot. i voted to improve the snow guns. it stands millions of dollars a year on electricity. they can actually have better
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that's one of the great things about the clean energy economy. we can win and move the economy forward. >> public-policy conservation is the best move in new hampshire. it's the small part of a big region for consumption. the only way we will make a big impact -- ending programs aggressively than encourage businesses and individuals to save money a as the only candidate 100% against the northern pass project. one of the reasons for that is in addition to the problems they bring to the table, it would squash a lot of really exciting projects i believe are on the cusp of occurring that includes solar, biomass, and offshore wind. things that we can do to modernize the grid. it's not a day one thing.
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more quickly into the economic bloodstream. >> our stated public policy goals is 25% of renewables. we should be able to get there. we've had some of the legislatures try to roll it back. we show a commitment of 50% i-20 35. it's doable and the way we get there is a renewable area and we have the greenhouse gas initiative which has been started to be rolled back in terms of bringing down the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. we should recommit that in 2020. energy conservation is a big part of it. we have to really commit ourselves to renewable energy. i've been working on this since the 1970's.
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society. this is a real issue and we can do it if we have the right leadership. >> let's go back to another very important question surrounding gun violence. >> for those who support an assault weapons ban, x hours employs hundreds of residents here and also makes assault weapons. how you balance that ban against the businesses in the state? >> style assault weapons, congress will not act on it and several states have done it. we should look at it in terms of new gun sales and it will be a new hampshire question. whether it is certain features in terms of the magazine capacity or flash suppressors, grenade launchers. when you go back to last 10 years and you look at gun violence.
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clear and present danger. the best thing the governor can do is stand up and protect the state. i believe congress cannot act and we should do it. a put the consideration aside of how it businesses and look at how it affects citizens. >> my first responsibility is looking at this as a dad. i was a dad when sandy hook happened and i don't think any parent should have kiss their kids to sleep like words like san bernardino over their head. they can thrive and go -- grow great businesses. the policies that make sense here, i am an occasional word hunter -- bird hunter myself. the rights that i exercise are completely consistent with things like universal background checks.
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country -- sorry, every other state in new england. we need to get weapons of war. josh: occasional bird hunter? >> once or twice a year and not very good. steve marchand: i don't think of it in the context of what employers happen to be or not be a new hampshire. already heard tonight involving expanding background checks seem like a commonsense measure. most agree with that including mental health and including us in that database. a very logical step to take including domestic violence as a background and an element for gun access. also gun safety for folks practicing their completely legal second amendment rights
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gun safety laws and what they can do to store them more properly and can help minimize accidental death's. some folks tell me i have an ar-15 and they like to use it to hunt deer. if you need 30 rounds that you can shoot in 10 seconds to shoot a deer, you might want to consider -- violence, refugees have become an issue. after the terrorist attacks in paris, this would be to mr. marchand first. our governor called for a complete freeze of syrian refugees entering the united states until the federal government can guarantee that the vetting process "ensures the safety of the american people."
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if so, what action should you take. >> i disagree on that issue. i said that at the time as well. i take this aittle more broadly in terms of immigration. folks came down from quebec and i was born and raised a couple miles from here. when i look at the future of new hampshire and america's economy and hear the republicans talking about this tonight, the key to our economic growth and to getting younger as a key to entrepreneurship is to increase the amount of immigration irrespective of their country of origin. i have confidence at the national level that the screening is done at a point i am comfortable irrespective of their country of origin. that they can come here, roll up their sleeves, and be part of the past, present, and the future of new hampshire's economy which is legal
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be 65 and older. we have the lowest birthrate in america. when i look at immigration, we need to welcome immigrants to our state and our country. i welcome the syrian refugees in our state and i welcome any political person who wants to start a better life right thing to do. colin van ostern: the first job for everything else is to make sure the people of new hampshire are safe and secure. i know the best way to do that is with deep, individualized security screenings, not using nationality or religion as a litmus test. doing it is kind of a security blanket.
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to recruit people to hate us and attack our country. it gives them a reason to do that. i saw a picture of week or two ago of a young boy, a syrian and aleppo, i think it was. covered with grime and blood and in a state of shock. he is not a national security threat. he is a five-year-old orphan. acknowledge that it is not his nationality thatul deep and long individuals screening process. i think it's the best way to keep our country safe. >> let's go back to john for a related topic. >> all three of you comfortable with the current vetting process? >> there are always opportunities to strengthen it.
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nationality or religion gets it in a stronger and i think it weakens the system we have now. >> the vetting process at the federal level, it is a two-year process. we are not going to be at the state level monitoring and putting processes in place to figure out who is coming at the federal level. >> sanctuary cities is a term used to describe the nyssa palavi's the assistance to federal immigration authorities looking to apprehend or remove people in the country illegally. what is your stance on sanctuary cities in new hampshire? would you allow them? this question is directed first to councilmember van ostrander. colin van ostern: we need to
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second language, vocational training to translate the skills they have learned. sometime, college trained translators that can put those skills into practice. it is something the state can do. there's too much politics, too many soundbites. we should focus on what we can do in new hampshire. not trying to pit one group against another. can do. i think that is what our next governor can do. mark connolly: this congress can't do a thing about climate change, can't even admit it's there. gun violence, they can do anything about it. we have 11 million people in our economy and we need to bring them out of the shadows. in terms of sanctuary cities, the lifting a governor can do is
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enforced and it can't be done selectively. the root of this problem is washington needing to fix the immigration problem. it has something that's been out there for years. congress can't fix it. steve marchand: there has been a demonization of immigrants in general and scare tactics. you can quantify this. the most entrepreneurial people are immigrants, kids, and grandkids. we are looking at a decrease in entrepreneurial activity where all net new job creation occurs, from new companies that are formed by immigrants. my folks, neither had a high school degree and both started their own business and guided to
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it is an inspirational story. my mom worked at the pandora mills a couple months before i was born. those are folks that are coming to this country to work. and when i look at the future, it's great and it is the future of our economic success. josh: the commuter rail project. starting with you, counselor van ostrander, this is one of the linchpins of your economic plan but a lot of people feel it comes at the current cost of infrastructure. had you convince people that it is worth the investment? >> new hampshire business
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for executive council. there were two votes five years ago. the defunding of planned parenthood which i was determined to fix, and a rejection of the capitol corridor rail study which is the economic feasibility plan that tells us the following. iran on the issue, here is what it tells us. 5600 new jobs will be created to 1.9 million square feet of commercial real estate development. this is not what we need to tell voters, it's a product of listening to voters. i know a startup ceo desperate for rail because he wants to be able to hire as fast as he can to help his company grow as fast as it can. it is one of the important things we can do to power the economy and keep it moving
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all the way up. >> we spent 46% of energy dollars in the way that we drive cars. we have the most vibrant economy in the world. we are at the end of the line. to connect boston, nashua, manchester. that area is the largest. it can be done with a cost of between $4 min the towns, and the businesses that will benefit from this. i also believe the revenues will come off in tes of province stacks, e meals. that will be enough to pay for it. we have to have meaningful passenger rail. overall, new hampshire has a berating. f was at transportation.
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we have to build and that is passenger rail. >> these projects haven't moved everywhere. >> when the investment is made, it it can sustain itself? >> i spent several years talking to well over 100 businesses in candid and nonpolitical candid and nonpolitical enronments. those were the clusters that kept coming up over several years. while supportive of rail, we
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be put in the context of broader infrastructure and that includes water, wastewater. we have this invested state government. it comes back from 20 years of experience. public investment reads private investment. if you do th right and communicate it of a broader infrastructure package, you can get folks on board. >> let's go to the lightning round. keep the answers to yes or no and that would be great. would you be in support of mandatory education, firearm education? >> good question. yes. gun safety is such an important
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it leads to tragedy. it would be extremely helpful in avoiding those strategies. >> i took a hunter education course myself. i think in circumstances like that, it makes sense. >> what are your thoughts? steve marchand: i am smiling because the course that colin took, i entered used it is crucial that we have education about firearms. that's why we have safety. >> do you support seatbelts? is it time to have seatbelts and motorcycle helmets mandatory? >> i said yes on seatbelts and i
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lot of money when he's here because he wants to come up with his motorcycle. i have not seen any evidence that convinces me that the helmet law is absolutely necessary and i fear it might harm our economy. >> i think there is a lot of evidence. it is probably a good move. not die. they didn't recognize him because he was black and blue because of the accident. we need a helmet law. >> what time should last call be? >> for me, about 9 p.m. these days. without thinking about it too
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>> i think 2:00 or up to cities and towns if they want to go earlier. josh: you would be ok with past 2:00. >> 2:00 would be the cap. >> this is one we don't think about a lot. >> fair question. round. in this question is about process. would you be in support of going to legislative sessions every two years? >> i believe we did that until about 1994 if i have my history correct. it is like oxygen in a room and it will fill whatever space you give it. we did that quite successfully
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full-time job. >> i am skeptical. i have had to work to bring them back. first to expand medicaid and to tackle the drug crisis. they were emergencies we had to do that. i would be hesitant to do that. >> it allows people to become legislators. we should consider it. >> back to the economy. this is being advertised in new hampshire. some businesses say they can't fill the jobs they have.
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>> we have one of the highest migration rates of young people and we have to convince 58,000 high school students they don't have to leave new hampshire. we should look at apprenticeships. if we have an educated workforce, that is the big issues businesses look at. things like this. when kids graduate, why not figure out a way to bring the debt load down. commit themselves. we had to think about these ways. >> you support raising the minimum wage but what do you
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state legislature it is necessary given the new hampshire hospitality reports. >> it's important we don't just elect a good governor but we elect folks to stand up for strengthening new hampshire's economy. i have been endorsed by a majority in the state of new hampshire. you have to build those coalitions. when he do higher new hampshire minimum wage. the place to start is the bill of $12 an hour. i do think you could do that right away but it's a good place to start the negotiation. i think it is critical that we strengthen our workforce. i have dealt with hiring folks,
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and hire great people to do it. it workforce development college, called college for america. we have now enrolled 4600 new students, mainly getting an associates degree. it is a great way to power our economy moving forward. >> only talk about what minimum reflect the values of new hampshire. and the dignity of the person doing it. we move towards a living wage overtime that reflects the real cost of transportation and housing which can be significantly higher than certainly $12 an hour. in terms of the prior question. too often i heard other candidates if we could ring businesses into the state, it
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the state and businesses will come. they said pre-k-12 education ,frastructure deficit, building a culture of entreprenrism. >>'s pitching -- switching gears a bit. all three of you support repealing the death penty but you have said you are the only candidate that is 100% opposed to it. the one person on death wrote, the convicted murderer of the manchester police officer michael briggs. >> yes. what he did was heinous and nobody's quesoning his guilt. but in a number of other state where the law is still on the books and we're the only one in the northeast that till has it, it is not uncommon to commute it to life with no chance of parole.
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not just wrong in the future. it is wrong today as well. when we have not executed somebody in about 80 years, the one time you get to impose or not impose your value system, you choose to execute, it is hard to say with a straight face that you oppose the death penalty as a practical matter. >> i would not commute his sentence. i believe in a matter of faith and conscience that we should parole for the most heinous crimes. but i also appreciate that we asked our law enforcement officers to put our lives on the line. in this case, quite literally sacrifice their life, to uphold the rule of law. i don't think it's inappropriate for an elected official to have an appeal through the court
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and i would uphold that as governor. >> i oppose the death penalty and i think it's wrong. we are one of the few countries that does it. i would say in terms of mr. addison, he was adjudicated by his peers and i don't think the governor should impose his or her values. the first thing you do is enforce the law. and we should carry it out and not impose our personal views on this matter. dave solomon. dave: one of the biggest complaints from new hampshire homeowners is about high property taxes. i am sure you've all heard it. would you consider a sales tax with proceeds specifically targeted toward property tax relief as a condition of any sales tax? if not, what would you do to lower property taxes in the first two years of a
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steve marchand: -- mark connly: i do not think it's the right thing for our state. concord has downshifted so much revenues. we are starting to grow revenues this last budget up $100 million in surplus. i think the trend is going to continue in the money should go back for property tax relief. >> home, if you want to see your property taxes continue to go up by continuation of the same enlechy that both parties have looked that, you have two choices to my left. and you've got me. with me, the number one reason property taxes are as high as they are is because we have dis-invested at the state level and of created amazing inefficiency and infrastructure and education everything from freezing the school building projects to the employee
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used to do it and got out of the business. in planet concord, they define a balanced budget as bringing down the cost from a local and regional level. and the funds dealing with the ability, fundamentally from the -- from my auditing days, you know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of that and you would do everything you could to change it. income tax and i would do everything in my power to stop either if necessary. i think both are bad for the new hampshire economy. we need to do more to provide property tax relief. having full day kindergarten paid for which would put less pressure on local school districts. i have suggested that it is past time for us to fully fund our current education formula and
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question earlier. one of the important ways to do that as i brought the fairpoint strike to a resolution is we have to ensure workers have the fair right to bargain and organize. whether it is fairpoint workers or videographers here. one of the reasons the debate is happening tonight, i hope the parties can bring that to a conclusion. josh: get to the final question of the evening and it's an important one. as governor, what would you do to make sure new hampshire residents regardless of race, religion, or creed, to make sure they were part of their community. >> no discrimination on any level at any time. it has to be our goal as a state that incdes sexual orientation, religious orientation.
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government should not impose a litmus test on what the government believe is right, including a woman's right to choose. >> we have led the nation in treating our fellow citizens th the gritty and respect. we lead the nation in marriage equality. what we have seen, where they are passing discrimination laws to discriminate against their own citizens, it's not just wrong. it'ls hampshire where we treat fellow citizens with dignity, equality, and respect. whether it is gender, sexual orientation, identification, and making sure that we protect women's health and right to choose. i want to make sure we focus on it for just a second.
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restored. it we did. it's restored now. the one candidate endorsed by planned parenthood and i will make sure we don't keep treating that funding like a political football. >> they also said all three of us had the issue of choice and i'm the only candidate that would help us and our economy. i think having a governor whose to grow up in a household is an important component. the message we want to send when you look at the next generation, they are disproportionately people of color. i am the only candidate with a specific plant to bring gender identity and expression into the same level of private sector orientation. it is the right thing to do morally and it sends a message
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whatever that family looks like, or a business. the more inclusive we are, the better we will be. >> we will finish of the question portion of this debate that get to the closing statements. each candidate will have one minute and we will begin. steve marchand: donald trump has been a gift in many ways to democrats in new hampshire and across the country. it means in all likelihood that one of us three h chance of being governor in 2017. it will be good for new hampshire. we have had democrats in office for 18 of the last 20 years and we have an opportunity to stand done and we are a progressive state. i have the best record of fiscal responsibility and i am the most socially progressive.
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a limitation of the death penalty. we are a blue state, bluer then redressed acting -- redistricting. think i present the progressivei vision of fiscal responsibility. the son of immigrants has done well on the seacoast. november. >> tanks for taking time this evening. in the midst of a national election that feels like a sad reality show, and when washington just seems broken, i'm proud of the progress we are making. we are not perfect, but we get a lot right. i believe this is whether or not we get our state moving forward and who is best equipped to lead us into the future.
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vote to 50,000 of our fellow citizens. i led the effort to restore planned parenthood funding. that is progressive and results that matters for new hampshire families. we are building clean and renewable energy projects across the state. we do make them the rule, not the exception. we have found ways to to our website and stand touch. >> the final word goes to mr. conley. mark connolly: the challenging forces are complicated and people try to give simple answers. leadership in terms of how we define education and undid. leadership in terms of health care. leadership in terms of
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energy. i respect my fellow candidates. i have the depth and breadth of experience to represent our party. i have shown leadership in terms of going after institutions that harm our state. i am a voice for the voiceless. i am not the institutional choice and i'm not a career politician. i am a vision of someone who wants to execute that vision and do the best job i can and return home when the job is done. new hampshire. >> thank you for joining us this evening and time of flies. that will wrap up this destination. be sure to join us tomorrow night when we host our u.s. senate primary debate between incumbent and her challenger jim rubens. you can get full in-depth political coverage. political coverage. i'm josh van ostern: i'm colin van ostern, and i learned a lot
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on the executive council, i worked with governor hassan to restore funding for planned parenthood and to expand medicaid to 50,000 citizens, which helps with the opioid crisis. as governor, i'll support our workers with a higher minimum wage and create clean tech jobs with more renewable energy. all of this is important because i have a stake in it, too. let's keep new hampshire moving forward. maggie hassan's priorities are working for new hampshire. new hampshire froze tuition. e need good highway systems. hassan is an advocate for public safety. she's kept spending under control. and how does maggie hassan get these things done? by balancing the budget without an income or sales tax. creating a surplus... and by working with anyone and everyone to create a better environment for business innovation. a new senator making fiscal responsibility work for you. i'm maggie hassan and i approve this message. hillary clinton: i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. bob kidder, owner, new england shirt company: this
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but donald trump's brand of shirts come from china, his suits from mexico, his coats from india. trump's products have been made in twelve other countries because he says there's no place in america that he can make them. well there is. you know donald trump says he'll make america great again while he's taking the shirts right off our backs. power shouldn't come from money and influence. power comes from the people. after big corporations when they did wrong. as your governor, i'll stand up to the gun lobby to keep... military assault weapons off our streets. i'll take on the drug companies that caused this crisis... and protect planned parenthood to protect women's healthcare. the power is in our hands to make new hampshire safer... and stronger. mark connolly.
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tonight on the dramatic season finale of "bachelor in paradise"... four couples remain, and time has run out. josh: coming into this journey, i didn't think that i'd be so madly in love where i could possibly be proposing. everyone is facing the biggest decisions of their lives. grant: i don't know if proposing to lace is the right move. will carly and evan's unusual love story end in an engagement? t i never thought i'd do again. i'm really nervous about it. i feel so strongly about you, but is the logical thing to do to roll the dice and figure everything out later? can grant overcome last-second doubts about lace? lace: i never in a million years would have thought i was gonna wake up in the fantasy suite crying. i don't trust our relationship anymore. will nick finally open his heart to find love with jen? nick: i can't do this unless i know with 100% certainty.
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eling a little nervous. you know, amanda has two children, and we're not in the real world yet. there doesn't need to be an engagement right away. amanda: i would be completely devastated to leave paradise without josh. but for the first time in "paradise" history... jen: i want him to know how i feel. i do see the proposal. ...there will be multiple proposals... man: my love, will you marry me? woman: [ crying ] yes! but who will go home brokenhearted? woman: [ crying ] find out right now on the dramatic season finale ? ? almost paradise ? ? we're knocking on heaven's door ? ? almost paradise ? ? how could we ask for more? ? ? i swear that i could see forever ? ? in your eyes ?
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? i swear that i could see forever ? [ glass clinks ] ? in your eyes ? ? paradise ? [ bird squawks ] ? waking up this morning, like, all of parad for these moments with evan, and it just makes me so happy. i think my new favorite thing in the world to do is wake up next to you. ahh. i think it's mine, too. [ chuckles ] i just can't stop smiling. i would accept a proposal. yep. so, i fell in love with a girl named carly. she's got me chillin' on the beach like a guy named marley.
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and that's okay. [bleep] [ both laugh ] that's really good. i mean, this experience is so different from my last experience, it's out of control. last year, kirk broke up with me. that was, like, the worst day of my life. so, i'm a little scared about what's gonna happen today. but i trust evan that doesn't mean that it doesn't still scare me, 'cause it does. evan is unpredictable. if evan freaks out, i would be absolutely devastated. grant: i think we had a great day yesterday. obviously, you know that it's not gonna be fun being apart from each other today, but...


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