? josh: this sunday, we are two days from the election. after a week of granite state debates, it is decision time. we will break things down from the top of theke been a huge week. the print will continue until voting starts. i am josh mcelveen. thanks for joining us. the campaign trail in new hampshire is going to be packed the next couple of days with presidential politics again front and center. in a lot of ways, this is becoming the rule in the granite state, rather than the exception. both candidates for the most powerful office in the world
granite stater since the first in the nation primary. collectively, they have been here 14 times, hillary clinton four, donald trump nine. their circuits have been on the ground as well. tim kaine, former president bill clinton, and daughter chelsea. mike pence and eric and ivanka trump. hillary clinton is back in the state today. the president will be here tomorrow. donald trump will evening rally here, possibly his last campaign event in this cycle. bill clinton's 1996 visit -- bill clinton: i said i would like to begin the last day of my campaign in new hampshire. josh: and president obama visited the last day of his election bid in 2012. pres. obama: part of this
policy. it is also about who do you trust? josh: one day later, and election eve lord for mitt romney at the verizon. once again, new hampshire is ready to rock and roll. >> do you feel good tonight? josh: still a lot of underbite -- undecided voters. the secretary of state bill gardner is predicting roughly 700 million landrigan and john distaso. in a lot of pundits may have you believe that the debates do not matter, because whatever happens at the top of the ticket, so on goes the ballot. do you buy it? kevin: no. when you have a presidential race like this, which blocked out the sun in new hampshire, for a year and a half, these debates offered candidates a ray
they took advantage of it. a lot of viewers and readers like these debates. they dealt with the issues. they had some really substantive exchanges on the issues that matter. gun control, the debt, the deficit. war and peace. all things that mattered. and should decide this election. josh: a lot of people may have been sick of the presidential politics. this might have been refreshing. what is your take? by the campaigns and races going to be looked at in a vacuum, individually? john: i do not think they will be totally looked at in a vacuum. i believe there is the effect of the top of the ticket on down. or it is not just cut and dry, that whoever wins new hampshire
the whole ticket. each campaign has been working very hard to distinguish themselves, especially on the republican side. as their own candidate. we have seen that in the u.s. senate race. the thing interesting to me is whether in the case of kelly ayotte, whether she is going to be able to bring home the people who are for trump to the degree necessary hassan, despite the fact that she has separated and finally completely split from donald trump. i think eventually, a lot of those people, other than the hard-core trump folks, will come home to her. that does not mean she wins, but when push comes to shove, they will. josh: it cracks me up when people throughout these formulas.
are guessing. kevin: totally. the senate race is a good example. there is so much visibility and attention. kelly ayotte and maggie hassan have their own identity in new hampshire. it is big. their name recognition is over 95%. you really will not take away and have trump overwhelmed that. here's interesting part of the race. that is trump. here is a guy who was a republican now -- used to be a de cat. we know from the primary that he brought in people who never vote in presidential primaries. what do they do? last time, someone who was outside the party if researcher ran for president, ross perot, got 20% of the vote. bill gardner, there was a statewide recount. one in four people who voted for
down the ballot. could some of that happen with some of the diehard trump people? john: absolutely. for the diehard trump trump. . josh: people, there's only in order for donald trump to win -- and he acknowledges this -- there has to be a surprise. there has to be a beneath the surface support that no one has identified yet. an organic one. do you believe that exists? do you sense there is a quiet support? john: i do. i do not say it will be to the degree -- i am not predicting outcomes. but i believe there are a lot of people out there who support donald trump who are not saying so, here and throughout the country. you see a couple of science, but look at the -- what you have, 100,000 votes in the primary?
admit -- they are embarrassed by the fact who they are supporting. john: it is so intense. you cannot get into a conversation with someone else without it turning into -- kevin: what is also so unique about this race is on the other side, you have hillary clinton, who is a national figure. such a huge personality. but at the same time, you wonder -- particularly independent voters -- if f primary, there was bush fatigue, which hurt jeb bush. could end of people say "clinton, clinton, clinton," bush, bush, bush" -- here are some 18 years ago who beat someone who beat who will be the president of the united
have covered politics in new hampshire for a long time. seriously, we will not see anything like this -- this will be a tough act to follow. big picture, what is your take? john: for both of us, this is a nice, even number in terms of cycles. right? this is totally unique. the only thing i can think of in terms of excitement that would come close would be 19. hazens with pitchforks-- peasants with pitchforks on the republican side. but this is beyond anything i have ever seen. it is not just us. or in terms of coverage, it has been very challenging. kevin: and i do think it is fitting that it is unprecedented all the way down the valley. you have running for governor to
executive council table across from one another. john: we have the dream battle between the two top politicians, between the governor and the senator, in the state. he has been amazing. and we have our fourth re-run with frank into an carol shea-porter. josh: and shawn o'connor. there is fatigue out there but here in new hampshire, we have closed the circle from our primary, first in the nation, to donald trump spending election even night in new hampshire. john: it brings back a lot of memories. there are two things. it is not just that we are a battleground with four electoral votes, but these people do like
to go. kevin: what is wonderful is 37 states have early voting. four in 10 voters have already voted. in new hampshire, this is the big day. i think new hampshire will have a huge turnout. josh: bill gardner, that is what he counts on. he says early voting is an inconvenience to turn out. coming up next, we will focus on the down to the president and campaign manager and hillary clinton's national campaign manager. i alone can fix it! bomb the [bleep] out of 'em. i'd like to punch him in the face. i like people that weren't captured, okay? he's a mexican! she ate like a pig... i
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josh: welcome back. new hampshire is the center this weekend as the presidential race roles through the granite state. this past week, i spoke with two of the architects of the campaign. clinton's national campaign manager robby mook and former donald trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. how are things going? mr. mook: we feel good we have record turnout across the country. this will be the biggest turnout election in the history of our country. we are reminding everyone to
day. this is also a time for voters to reflect on the choice they have. i think everyone would agree for now that the choice between these candidates could not be more stark. secretary clinton is spending these final days talking about how she believes the country a stronger together, that we have to get the economy working for everyone. we have to keep the country secure by working with our diversity as a strength in our country. donald trump has painted a dark and divisive vision of our future. his racist, sexist, bigoted comments, he has proposed more tax breaks for billionaires, like himself. he is unfit to be a commander in chief. i think most americans would be scared to have him making life
room. that is the choice and that is what we are focused on. josh: yet poll numbers show that the race is getting tighter in new hampshire and in other important battleground states. obviously last week, the assumption is when james comey came out with this letter, it might impact how voters feel about this. you pointed to the letter asking for more clarity, that you have not received yet. i am asking you, not for candidate, do you believe there was political motivation with the release of that letter? mr. mook: i do not know. i do not know why they did it. it was perplexing, frankly. it was a complete break and president -- in precedent and protocol in the justice department. there is a long-standing rule that not only do you not released things during a political campaign, but you also
conclusion. it is very strange. that is why you have former and current attorneys general saying this is a grave mistake. we are senior officials at the justice department asked director comey not to do this. but we are trying to spend these last few days talking about the start choice voters have in this election. this we have always expected that. that is why we built such an enormous ground organization in new hampshire. but we want to be clear to our supporters, particularly in new hampshire, where we think this will be close -- turn out and vote. fast that vote -- cast that vote. josh: the president will be new hampshire tomorrow and i understand he will be with hillary clinton in pennsylvania out.
your strategy? mr. mook: this has been our plan for some time, in large part because new hampshire and pennsylvania are two of the battleground states where almost all voting happens on election day itself. a lot of other states, like florida and nevada, some of them are close to or over 50% of the vote cast -- in arizona, well over 50% of the vote folks in new hampshire have just that one day on election day, so we want to make sure they make a plan to vote. you do not want to wake up the morning after the election and all of your friends and family were part of history and participated in the election and you did not. new hampshire is one of the easiest states in the country to vote on election day. you can register at the polls. and the polls are open all day.
you will be sure to show up. josh: i want to ask you, has this election fundamentally changed the way elections have run forward? mr. mook: i think donald trump has such a divisive character, such a dangerous worldview that i think this is a unique campaign. i think that is why republicans an independents, particularly in new to our campaign. hillary has built a coalition of support unique in our politics. i hope in future presidential elections, we have candidates on the republican side and democratic side, for that matter, who are more respectful, who do not have the kind of divisive, bigoted, racist language we have heard from donald trump and we can get back to talking about the issues, which is what hillary is trying
dragging by for your this point. mr. mook: well, we appreciate it. we will work hard. josh: i am now joined by new hampshire's own corey lewandowski. former campaign manager for donald trump. still a good friend of his. i imagine he takes advice from you from time to time. how do you think it is going? mr: lewandowski: what you have is another or it now -- is an el new hampshire is such a special place. you hear about these early voting places and everyone is measuring, is it up to par, does it measure where we were four or eight years ago? new hampshire is special. it is an election day, you show up and vote. if you look at it, the momentum is with donald trump. what you have seen recently is the polls are breaking his way.
most cases now. that is where you want to be. josh: is there anything left that could hurt himjosh:? he has pretty much absorbed -- a lot of it by his own doing, from videos and statements -- what more could possibly happen? he is who he is at this point. mr: lewandowski: i think the american people have to fundamentally side if they want to keep washington going the same way it has been the past 30 years, or do fundamental and wholesale change. put someone in washington who has no governmental experience. someone not beholden to special interests, someone putting his own money into this campaign. tens of millions of dollars to say i want to work for the making people. and when you look at this country, more than 50% of the people say this country is on the wrong track. let's put this country on the right track.
has been hammering away at his temperament and the things he has said. now they're talking about as commander in chief, would he keep us safe and would he be trusted to not fly off the handle. you know him. what do we not know about him? mr: lewandowski: what we do not see about donald trump is the empathy side that he displays in private all the time. he is a very funny guy. just the ability -- but more importantly, he is a person who takes a lot of advice be a the entire campaign. if i had a recommendation on something, he would call 10 or 12 or 15 other people he trusted to make sure that that recommendation was a good one that was strategic and smart. we are hiring a person to make a final decision. you want that person to have the best people around. if you look at his first higher in this campaign he may -- mike pence. great guy. in new hampshire sunday. he is the type of vice president
actually you, if you want to be technical. since you have departed from the campaign, has there been times when you have seen things unfold, whether behind-the-scenes or strategy that you thought you were still running things? mr. lewandowski: of course. when you walk away from what is the most historic campaign in the history of our country, there is that buyers are more's -- buyer's remorse. campaign has done a good job of making sure donald trump is on message. and my philosophy -- let trump be trump. he has bypassed the mainstream media, told his message. josh: when people go behind the curtain -- he talks a lot about
will be there and will reveal itself election day. polls are what they are. how convinced are you that there is this spiral of silence? mr. lewandowski: i think there are people out there who do not want to publicly state they are supporting donald trump. we saw some of this in the primaries. we saw the dominance donald trump here had. also in south carolina and nevada. in florida. a week out in florida, there was a public poll that came out that said he won by 20. when you see polls where you just touch a button to answer, you see him do much better. here and in pennsylvania, you will see people who come out and who come out to have not come out and supported him. josh: vote for himjosh: -- come out and support him, vote for him. josh: his final election of it will be new hampshire. is that something you convinced
has been such an important state to donald trump. he got his first win in a place where people said he would not be competitive. he came to new hampshire 12 or 13 or 14 times in the general election. it shows the level of commitment he has here. if you're a member of before the primary, he did a big event. it was packed. it worked well on primary night. i hope he has the same success for the election. josh: trump. josh: i meant after. will you write a book? mr. lewandowski: i do not think so. i just hope we have the record turnout, that people support donald trump in new hampshire. josh: thanks for joining us. we will be right back with a look at a long year in
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not working for new hampshire. josh: to talk to donald trump and hillary clinton in a number of different occasions. the flaws they had during the primary are the same they have had now. ms. clinton: i did not send or receive any material marked classified. i take that very seriously. i have handled a lot of it. there are things that only i and
showed a bunking in a lot of these wild, inaccurate allegations. i am always amused because the allegation comes forward. that is your job. you have to say what is going on here. and the people making them off say we have no evidence, but, if you take point b and connected to point z, maybe there's something going on. but in effect, there is not. josh: what do you say if there is a new hampshire questioning your credibility? ms. clinton: first of all, i understand what is going on in the country. there is legitimate anger, frustration. frustration about the economy, about our government, about why we cannot get things done. i get that. what i am trying to present to people is the fact that we deserve to be angry, we deserve to vent, but anger is not a plan and venting is not a strategy.
us the drug dealers and rapists, the worst of the worst -- mr. trump: a lot about people are coming here. we own $18 trillion as a country. we are going up to $20 trillion soon. once we hit $24 trillion, we'd become a large-scale version of greece. everyone calls them the illegals. call them whatever you want. are not allowed to be here -- they are causing tremendous amount of trouble and crime. no one has more respect for women than i do. and we are doing well in the holes. we are leading most of the polls -- nationally we are leading. nobody has no respect -- nobody has more respect for home and then i do. i love the country, and we have to save the country.
we own $18 trillion. it is going up to $24 trillion soon. i am doing it because i want to save this country. this country has tremendous potential. we can be greater than ever before -- but not with politicians running it. josh: no matter who you support, make sure you vote tuesday. you know the rule -- if you do not vote, you cannot complain. that wraps up this edition of "closeup new hampsre which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] he ran it into the ground. chris sununu cut jobs, and cut workers' hours so he wouldn't have to provide health insurance. colin van ostern went to college on student loans, became a stonyfield business manager. then a top executive at college for america. colin van ostern: i'm colin van ostern. real success is helping others get ahead.
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