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[ cheers and applause ] >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- john goodman. music and chat with joanna newsom. featuring the 8g band with matt cameron. [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers! >> seth: good evening, everybody. i'm seth meyers, this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] fantastic to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. donald trump won yesterday's
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illinois and north carolina. trump did especially well with white males, caucasian men and non-women of no color. [ laughter ] according to exit poll data, two thirds of republican voters in yesterday's florida primary were older than 50. and the other one third were their parents. [ light laughter ] after finishing a distant second in his home state of florida, marco rubio announced yesterday that he is ending his campaign. rubio plans to return to his old job as a lego businessman. [ laughter and applause ] they'll take you back. you're too good at it. [ applause ] when announcing last night that he is dropping out, marco rubio told supporters, we should have seen this coming. if it makes you feel any better, marco, we did. [ laughter ] hillary clinton won yesterday's primaries in florida, illinois, north carolina and ohio. and you can tell she's feeling confident, because she gave her victory speech from the oval office.
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he just went about his work in the back. he's a good guy. john kasich said in his victory speech last night that if you can't win ohio, you can't be president. because nobody knows winners like ohio. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] president obama announced today that he is nominating washington, d.c. circuit court judge merrick garland to the supreme court. "i can't win anything this week," screamed jojo from "the bachelor." [ laughter ] today president barack obama nominated judge merrick garland to be the nation's 113th supreme court justice. a lot of you out there probably don't know much about judge garland, so to help you out, it's time for a segment called "getting to know judge marrick garland." >> seth: he's currently the chief judge of the u.s. court of appeals in the district of columbia. he graduated as valedictorian from harvard university. he was born in chicago, illinois. those are some pretty generic
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and found several more interesting things about him. he's fully licensed to own and operate a gavel. merrick is short for america. [ laughter ] he remoistens his eyeballs regularly through a process called blinking. he once attended law school. his friends describe him as judgmental. an easy way to remember his name is to think of a delicious eric. mmm, eric! [ light laughter ] he was also nominated by his wife to take out the garbage. and finally, he puts his robe on one leg at a time. this has been "getting to know judge merrick garland." [ cheers and applause ] bernie sanders picked up his fourth union endorsement this week from the amalgamated transit union. meanwhile, donald trump has yet to pick up any union endorsements, but does have several from the confederacy.
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[ cheers and applause ] officials in london have been strapping mini-backpacks with air quality sensors on pigeons to monitor pollution levels. isn't that pretty much the definition of "if you see something, say something?" um, yeah, hi, i just saw a pigeon wearing a backpack? over both wings, what do you mean? how else would he do it? president obama has unveiled his full march madness bracket. not to be outdone, donald trump has also released his bracket. [ laughter ] and finally, barry bonds reportedly showed up to miami marlins spring training today and beat the entire team at a home run contest, despite being 51 years-old, begging the question, why are you still taking steroids, barry? ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] he is an old friend and star of "10 cloverfiend lane," the fantastic john goodman is here
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[ cheers and applause ] she is a talented harpist and incredible musician, also a dear friend of mine. tonight she's going to perform "a pin-light bent" from her album "divers," and then chat with us, joanna newsom is on the show tonight. [ cheers and applause ] i want to talk about something very exciting i got to do at the end of last week. the charity, a wonderful charity called cycle for survival that i've been involved with for years. it raises money for rare cancer, research and conjunction with some wonderful people over at sloan-kettering. and i'm very excited about this, because i got to go to the empire state building and we got to light the empire state building orange, which is the color i should say of the charity, and here's what it ended up like. that's what it looked like, which is beautiful, and here i am pulling the switch. and i got to be honest, i don't look like a guy who's ever flipped a switch before. [ laughter ] and i want to give a note to the good people at the empire state
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i feel like if it started up and you pulled it down, that would be better than this move that i had to do. [ laughter ] i don't even look like a guy who's seen lights go on before, i'm like, "oooooh!" but let me tell you something, when you flip a switch and then this happens, you pretty much walk around the rest of the day with a serious god complex. [ laughter ] i light the city. so you can still go to www.cycleforsurvival.org. it's a fantastic information. you can get information there, and that information is fantastic. it's a fantastic organization, also, there's information. sometimes you can flip those words and the sentence doesn't make sense any more. [ cheers and applause ] moving on. everybody. donald trump won big in last night's republican primaries, but the results leave open the possibility that even if he finishes with the most votes, he may not get the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, leading to a chaotic
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tear apart the republican party. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: last night's primaries were billed by the media as "super tuesday part two." also known as "two super tuesday," "28 states later" or "marco and ted's bogus journey." [ laughter ] here's some of the titles they rejected. "marco rubio and the last crusade," "the hunt for orange november" and my personal favorite, "kasich instinct." [ laughter ] after his losses last night, a subdued marco rubio addressed his supporters, which was out of character, because normally when rubio loses, he gives a victory speech. here he is in south carolina where he came in second. and here he is rockin' out in iowa where he came in third. so rubio suspended his campaign last night and in his speech pleaded with gop voters not to be lured in by donald trump's message of anger and division. >> america needs a vibrant conservative movement, but one
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ideas, not on fear, not on anger, not on preying on people's frustrations. i ask the american people do not give into the fear. >> seth: do not give into the fear. that doesn't sound like a concession speech, that sounds like the motto for a cross fit studio. [ laughter ] don't give into the fear, larry, this is why karen left you. [ laughter ] there's a lot to miss about marco rubio. the robotic repetition of scripted lines, hitting small children with footballs. [ laughter ] and most of all, his famous cute boots. >> those are the boots. they're black, they're shiny. looks like they're -- maybe has a side zipper. >> senator rubio was wearing a boot yesterday that had a bit of a heel to it. and they called it -- >> platform. yeah, something like that. >> oh, my god, look at that. >> no, no, no, no, no. look at that. >> it's a boot. >> no, no. >> seth: that's right. rubio wanted to send troops to iraq and syria, but the only boots on the ground that ever got him in trouble were a sassy pair from florsheim. [ laughter ] so trump romped some major
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so, the results leave open the possibility that he still might not win an outright majority of delegates, which could lead to what's called a brokered convention in cleveland in july. a contested convention could give the gop a chance to block trump from winning the nomination, but it could also result in all-out chaos. >> right now the possibility of a brokered convention i say right now, is about 50/50. and if that happens, then you know, basically, all hell is going to break loose. >> one of them said if they take the nomination away from us, we're going to burn the place down. >> even if he gets to the convention without the magic number but he gets close to it, and the gop activist base sees the establishment is trying to bring him down, cleveland will burn. cleveland will burn. >> seth: first of all, put aside all politics for a second. how much more can the city of cleveland take? [ laughter ] they just got rid of johnny manziel, now this? those poor people don't deserve this much suffering. i mean, they should consider moving the republican convention to a city that's used to chaos,
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boston. boston lights [ bleep ] on fire when they win. [ laughter ] some poor kid in cleveland is going to wake up, see a fire and think the browns won the super bowl. it's not fair. in fact, the city of cleveland is so concerned about chaos at the gop convention, police are reportedly seeking to buy 2,000 sets of riot gear, including long sleeved jackets, gloves and shin guards that would be suitable for use by police riding bicycles. [ laughter ] and let's all just spare a thought for those brave officers who will have to fend off angry crowds of trump supporters on bicycles. [ laughter ] everybody quiet down! don't make me ring this bell! ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! don't take my flag, man! [ laughter ] nonetheless, republican elites are seriously considering a plan to topple trump that could cause mass chaos at the convention. on the other hand, they're facing a prospect of a backlash from voters opposed to trump. according to exit polls of gop voters last night, 39% said they would seriously consider supporting a third party candidate. if trump and hillary clinton
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and 39% in the crucial swing states of ohio and florida. winning the general election without ohio and florida is like winning "the bachelor" without giving it up in the fantasy suite, it's just not going to happen. [ laughter ] it's not going to happen. i don't care about your personality, it's not going to happen. [ laughter ] so if the republicans do try somehow to steal the nomination from trump, the question becomes who do they hand it to? whether it's ted cruz, whose hated by the establishment, and then there's john kasich, who won his home state of ohio last night. although if you were going to judge just from the amount of confetti that came down at his victory speech, you would think he was the millionth customer at a supermarket. he won one state. [ laughter ] that's at least a ten state amount of confetti. i bet kasich's confetti guy said, "just drop it all, i don't think we're going to win another state." do we save some for california? no. [ cheers and applause ] still, a kasich/trump face-off at the convention would be, if
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styles, because kasich has built his campaign on his modest, folksy demeanor. >> this is just crazy, huh? this is just nuts, okay. geez-oh-man. look, this is all i got, okay? this is all i got. >> seth: is john kasich, gil from "the simpsons?" [ laughter ] >> oh, this is bad. this is really bad. you work and you slave and you steal just enough for a sweet look at that shiny brass ring. don't i get a lick? doesn't gil get a lick? [ laughter ] >> seth: now, compare kasich's victory speech to trump's, which was held in his private club in mar-a-lago, florida, where he hosted members decked out in ball gowns and diamonds. and where trump keeps, and this is real, this portrait of himself. [ laughter ] that's what he thinks he looks like. also you can't tell, but he's propping his foot up on chris christie. [ laughter ] "can i come up now? is the painting done?" "i'll let you know when the painting's done." [ laughter and applause ] the republican party is at a major crossroads, here.
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could very well see one of our two major political parties ripped apart by internal divisions. trump himself weighed in today on cnn. asked what would happen if he was denied the nomination at the convention, he issued what many perceived as a threat. >> i don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. i think it would be -- i think you'd have riots. i think you'd have riots. i think bad things would happen, i really do. i believe that. i wouldn't lead it, but i think bad things would happen. >> seth: that's donald trump participating in the new jersey tradition of couching a threat as a prediction. [ laughter ] if you don't pay your protection money, there could be a fire. i don't know. it wouldn't be me, but there could be a fire. this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with more "late night."
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody, please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also, sitting in with the band all week, he is the drummer for two iconic american rock bands, pearl jam and sound garden, matt cameron is here. [ cheers and applause ] be sure to check out matt and pearl jam on their upcoming north-american tour, which kicks off april 8th in ft. lauterdale, and wraps may 11th in toronto. matt, been such a pleasure having you here this week, thank you so much. [ cheers and applause ]
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on. these days, slang terms our evolving so fast that sometimes it's hard to keep up. so we here at "late night" decided to give you a little primer, in a segment we're calling, what else, "seth explains teen slang." [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: this first slang term is one you've probably heard of. it's called, "ghost." you're most likely familiar with ghosting, what does it mean? well, it's the act of suddenly ceasing all communication with someone you were dating but no longer wish to date. [ laughter ] for example, "i thought me and trevor had something, but i haven't heard from him in 10 days, i've been ghosted." [ laughter ] now, that's a term you've probably heard before, but there are some new terms that are just starting to become popular. our new slang term, our first new slang term is derived from, "ghosted." it's "ghostbuster." let's see the definition, when you catch someone that's been ghosting you. for example, "after not hearing from him for two weeks, i ran into peter at the mall. #ghostbusted, #whoyougonnacall. [ laughter and applause ]
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good one for the season. "easter legs," it's a term that means, "when you started dating someone in the winter, and are bummed out when you see them in shorts for the first time." [ laughter ] let's see it in a sentence. "i thought todd was hot, until he put on shorts and i saw his pasty, white, easter legs." [ laughter ] up next it's, "cop a sqaud." let's see the definition. it means, "when a group of girls goes to the bathroom." [ laughter ] for example, "hannah, kayla, madison, brianna, and i are going to the bathroom. #copasquad #saveourseats." [ laughter ] moving on, a very-new term. "romneying," it's a term meaning, "when someone who has recently been dumped got a few opinions." [ laughter ] for example, "kaitlynn can't even hold on to garret, now she want to say something about my boots? bitch be romneying." [ laughter ] up next we have, "tsa agent." let's see what it means. "a guy who tries to get to second base way to early on the first date." for example, "we barely got to his car, when he started feeling my bra with the back of his hand. then he tried to get me to take off my shoes.
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[ laughter and applause ] next up we have, "marco rubio." let's see the definition. "a guy who only looks hot because he hangs around with uggos." [ laughter ] for example, "kyle may be the best looking guy in the battlebots club, but stop saying he's cute. he a marco rubio." [ laughter ] finally we have, "whoopsie-savesies." let's see the definition. "when your friends ask you to save a seat, but then you get distracted, and someone sits there." [ laughter ] for example, "i was supposed to save hannah, kayla, madison, and brianna's seats when they coped a squad. but i got distracted, and long story short, they're gonna have to find new seats. #woopsiesavies." that was, "seth explains teen slang." we'll be right back with john goodman. [ cheers and applause ] kellogg's frosted mini-wheats ... 8 layers of wheat... and one that's sweet. to satisfy the adult
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to late night, everybody, our first guest tonight is an emmy award-winning actor who starred in films such as, "the big lebowski," "argo," and "the artist." his latest work, "10 cloverfield lane" is in theaters now. let's take a look.
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limits, unless i give express permission. go ahead. >> but i don't need to. >> you will, though. and i've gotta pace these things out, so please. >> i need privacy. >> you're welcome to close the curtain. >> i can't with you standing there. >> and i can't trust you not to burn this place down, this is for my own safety. i'm not some pervert, just go. [ sighs ] >> seth: please welcome back to
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome, sir! >> you first. >> seth: i'll go -- same time. >> got it. >> seth: good to see you. >> good to be seen. especially on this show. a program which encourages the we need them for the future. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: that's why i'm trying. they're the future. [ laughter ] [ groans ] upset. you upset yourself. >> no, i took a fistful of gas-x before i came out here. [ laughter ] feels good, baby. >> seth: this is a bit darker than i know my john goodman. >> yeah. >> seth: this is a dark role the film is fantastic, i loved it. >> oh, thank you. >> seth: was it fun to play? i don't want to give anything away. but, you do play sort of a creep in a bunker. >> yeah, he's a neatnick. [ laughter ] >> seth: he's a neatnic, yeah. >> he's like the felix unger of bunkers. [ laughter ] this is the guy that was probably president of his radio club in high school, and took it real seriously. [ laughter ]
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he likes things a certain way? >> yeah, he's been planning this for a while. and he's just thrilled as hell that, the apocalypse might be here. >> seth: he has a bunker, not giving it away. three people in a bunker? >> loads of dried food, games and fun things and bad vhss. and -- >> seth: it is funny to think that people who plan for an apocalypse, there's a part of them that wants it to happen so they can say, "everybody laughed at me." >> "i was right." [ laughter ] "look at them now." >> seth: but then you don't. you don't get to rub it in, though, because of the way an apocalypse works. >> yeah. [ laughter ] you've got a small feeling. but they're out there turned into borderline quality dog food somewhere. >> seth: and that makes you happy. >> it's hard to do the victory dance over them. especially in a hazmat suit. [ laughter ] >> seth: you got to shoot it in new orleans? >> in new orleans. >> seth: now, how long have you lived there? that's home. >> i've been there, 20 years.
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orleans in the first place? >> i wanted to get away from the show business. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> i lived in los angeles for a while, i did a hit tv show! [ laughter ] -- there for a while. and my wife -- >> seth: it was called "john goodman," right? >> yeah, "the john goodman show." [ laughter ] it's still around. [ laughter ] and -- my wife is from louisiana, i wanted to get out, so -- and i always loved new orleans. i was crazy about the place. and i figure she can be near her parents while i'm partying around on movie sets. >> seth: yeah, well there you go. so it worked out. >> acting like i'm working. [ laughter ] >> seth: now, you had a beard in the film. >> yeah. >> seth: and you -- is it true you had your beard in vietnam as well? 'cause you were shooting "kong: skull island." >> both: "kong: skull island." >> as opposed "kong" and not,
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>> seth: how was vietnam? >> it was great. it's polluted but it was great. the people -- they have a 97% literacy rate there. and billions of motor scooters, they're just -- they're great, really nice people. >> seth: do they -- how was bearded john goodman to them? were they excited to see you? >> yeah, i was staying at a small hotel. the girls called me santa claus. >> seth: that's nice. it must have been excited for them. >> yeah, i hated that [ bleep ] damn beard. [ laughter ] it's all white. >> seth: yeah, that's no fun. that's where my white is here, now. when i grow a beard. >> mine's all white enough to be called santa claus. [ laughter ] >> seth: how long does it take you to grow one? are you a fast -- >> a couple weeks. >> seth: yeah. three and a half years. [ laughter ] that's how long it takes me. >> you don't want to cut that puppy off right away. >> seth: no, you want to let it, really live there once you get it. >> yeah. >> seth: you're on your way to boston, talking about locations. >> i am.
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it's about the horrible marathon day bombings. >> seth: which happened on patriots day. >> mark walberg put it together. i think j.k. simmons is in it, it's a great script. 'cause i wasn't going to work for a while. i was on "kong: skull island" for most of my life, most of my adult life. >> seth: and then when you finally get off skull island you want to relax. >> i don't wanna work, yeah. [ laughter ] but the script comes in, "-- yeah i got to do it." but, i got to come up with a boston accent. >> seth: yeah, you got to do it. >> i don't want to sound like the guy from cheers who would normally be my go to guy. and that's a great accent. >> seth: yeah. but, you can't borrow it now. you need a new, subtle -- you have to have the subtleties of -- you have walberg, he can help you. >> yeah, mack can help me. >> seth: so that's good. >> yeah. >> seth: you want to try it here at all? >> do i? >> seth: yeah, do you, i'm asking. >> that sounds like a setup. sure! >> seth: no, it's not a setup,
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>> sure. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: that's good. you give him that much applause before he does it? >> it turned into a mob so quickly. [ laughter ] [ boston accent ] sure. >> seth: that's really good. >> i'm done, that's a wrap. >> seth: you got to, one of the other nice things about skull island, you got to work with brie larson. >> brie larson. >> seth: obviously this is the brie larson year. a big year for brie larson. but we don' know her as a person like you do. >> she won every single award. i think the motor club gave her an award just for showing up. no, she -- she is such a wonderful person. she's very charismatic, so you're drawn to her. but she would put together what she calls briekends. >> seth: briekends. >> she doesn't have enough to do in the show, she has to organize everyone's social life.
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places. they'd go to the movies, they found a mall with riding animals. we found a place where we could fondle kangaroos. [ laughter ] i'm not proud of some of the things i've done. [ laughter ] >> seth: do the kangaroos consent to it? >> yeah, they were very docile. and, undrugged. [ laughter ] yeah, we got to hold koalas. which is, it's -- >> seth: this is all because you were lucky enough to work with brie larson? >> brie larson would organize these things. >> seth: have you, on any movie set you've ever been on ever done any organizing anything for the rest of your -- >> no, they wouldn't ask me first. because i have what they call the, "resting bitch face." >> seth: oh. [ laughter and applause ] >> and that's like, i'm having a good day. >> seth: and you don't want to bring that face to koalas. >> they were always frightened of me.
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i got into the swing of things with the kids. i got some pep. >> seth: that's good. >> seth: the last i saw you before this, was the snl 40th. >> it was about a year ago, i was working in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. i got this nice invitation to come to the snl 40th reuninon show. so that meant, i didn't realize at first that i had to have a black tie. i called the hotel and they organized the suit for me, which was baggy. [ laughter ] i looked like the bad guy in a charlie chaplin movie. >> seth: oh, no, that's not good. [ laughter ] >> with the vest, that had the lumps in it. but i got through, i got there, i sat in the audience, and i didn't realize at the time that there was a bar here -- >> seth: in this studio right here. >> in this very studio where people would do their things and then come out and hang. i didn't know about it. >> seth: this was better than sitting in the audience. >> yeah, well i sat in the
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i think maybe they -- "maybe we don't want john at a bar. [ laughter ] he might have a flashback to when he's working and light up." i didn't know about that, and the after party which was walking around like this. i find somebody i want to talk to, dan aykroyd, i find him. i'm going to look for someone else. dan's gone, dan's gone for two hours. it's just like, everybody i ran into i lost, except for cooper. bradley cooper was just sitting around. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's the thing. >> i could always find cooper and ask if he had seen aykroyd or somebody, "he's over there." [ laughter ] >> seth: he probably wanted you to be excited to see him. >> it was great to be a part of it, we had a nice party the night before. it was nice to be included. i -- it was wonderful seeing all
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great memories. >> seth: you are one of the longest serving hosts of all time. so of course you would be there. one of my favorite hosts every time i did it with you. and thanks so much for being here. it's always great having you. >> thanks. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: john goodman, everyone. "10 cloverfield lane" is fantastic. it's in theaters now, we'll be right back with music from joanna newsom. [ cheers and applause ] the nissan rogue with intuitive all-wheel drive.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is an incredible musician and actress. she's going to stick around and talk with us right after her performance. here with her song "a pin light
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. we're here with the wonderful joanna newsom. thank you so much for being here. [ cheers and applause ] such a beautiful song. so, it has been five years since your last album. and you've been pretty much working on this album the whole time. you didn't take time off. right? >> yeah. >> seth: you just went right into it? >> yes. >> seth: how long does it take you to write a song? does it vary? >> it varies. certain songs on this record especially had a lot of rules.
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what does that mean? >> like, there's rhyme pattern of the ends of each lines, and then, there are interior rhyme patterns, and there are patterns formed by the syllabic emphasis and sometimes the poly rhythm that happens between the musical part and that sort of, like, subverted rhythm and the syllabic emphasis. >> seth: i completely lost you. [ laughter ] but i want to make clear, these are self-imposed rules that you imposed on yourself. and so, you did this in the very beginning or are these rules you came across as you wrote the song? did you think, "oh, i want this to be the case for the whole album?" or did you start with this idea? >> i guess it sort of developed as i started what i wanted the album to be about because there's so much on the record about, like, permanence and how we observed things make them last through culture and texts and stuff. and so, somehow there were a lot of things i was trying to do with the lyrics to illustrate in the form, actually, illustrate
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>> seth: you put so much more thought into your art than i put into my mine. [ laughter ] if i put that much to each joke -- what i want for each joke is the permanent -- no. [ laughter ] so -- it was nice, because i've always wanted to have you on the show. and that was a such a lovely song because there are -- you do have -- you've had some albums in the past where the songs just mean you can't be on television because they're just too long. >> yeah, it's very true. >> seth: what is your longest? >> my longest song is 17 minutes. >> seth: and now, will you do that in concert? >> i won't do it in concert. [ laughter ] it, you know, enrages -- it would enrage, i think, like 90% of the people. and then there's always one or two wise guys who are like, play "only skin!" [ laughter ] >> seth: even so there's some super fans who don't want to have the 17-minute song? >> i think a joanna newsom super fan wants that song. >> seth: they do want it? just one? >> i think. >> seth: okay. >> at every show. >> seth: okay, that's good. >> yeah. >> seth: but you have to weigh them against the many? the many against a few. >> i do. i have to. >> seth: now, the reason we're friends, the reason i got to know you, you married an a-plus guy.
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>> seth: you married my friend, andy samberg. i was -- yeah. give it up for andy. [ cheers and applause ] and i remember when he met you, because he was a huge fan of yours, so it was a big deal. do you remember when you guys met or how you met? >> yes, very well. i was a big fan of his. >> seth: okay. >> i was a big fan. in fact, the night i met him, fred armisen brought him to one of my shows and i had just been with my band backstage like an hour before watching, "just two guys." is -- >> which is famous -- predigital short. jorma and akiva are the main two characters. andy, if i recall, has a very small part. >> tiny, tiny part. he plays steve the [ bleep ]. [ laughter ] so, when i saw him, the exact line is, "who invited steve? that guy's a [ bleep ]." [ laughter ] so it's implied he's -- >> seth: yeah.
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for all we know, he might not be, but yeah. [ laughter ] so when i met him, he was, like, kind of shy when i met because we, you know, anyway. i met him and i said, "oh, my god! you're the [ bleep ]! you're steve the [ bleep ]! [ laughter ] he always said he saw heart bubbles. [ laughter ] >> seth: everything i know about him, i know that that is the dream way for a girl to greet him. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: i also -- i think of him going and seeing him being a fan of you, and seeing you tonight with the harp is such a beautiful instrument. both the sound is beautiful, and it's beautiful to look at. as -- when you first started out, and you didn't have a crew of people helping out, was it a nightmare to carry that thing around to gigs? [ laughter ] >> it kind of was. it was more a nightmare because i would go on a tour with a girlfriend in my little subaru forrester, and we kind of had a system. it was mostly a nightmare when big dudes would be like, "i'll get that." >> seth: oh, where they help. >> yeah, like, the distribution of the weight and the harp is weird, so dudes would pick it up
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sometimes. i was playing at the logan square auditorium in chicago, and some big dude just tipped over with my harp. without thinking, it was on this long stairway because then you have to climb stairs to get up. i just flung myself under it. all my legs were black and blue for, like, months afterwards. >> seth: and that guy probably still has shame of the time he dropped the harp, and the tiniest girl caught it and saved it. [ laughter ] he was like, "i don't know what went wrong, but i always see her face." >> seth: you did a great cameo on portlandia where fred and carrie were at a music festival just flaming the trunk on your harp a bunch of times. >> yeah, thank you. >> seth: it was great. one of the things i know about you and andy, huge "lord of the rings" fans. >> yes. >> seth: those films mean a lot to you. >> they're very important. >> seth: and over the years, people have referred to your music as elf-like, fairy-like. was that a burn on you? >> i don't think it was intended as a burn. >> seth: but did you take it as
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elf? >> i didn't like it very much. [ laughter ] i like elves, uh, i mean, as you said. i, uh -- you know. >> seth: but you saw this as a gateway though. >> i did. i ultimately wanted to parley it into being in "the hobbit." >> seth: right. >> i launched a campaign. i mean, in -- i'm not on social media, and i don't know very many people, so my campaign was, like asking andy's agent if he could ask some people if i could be -- [ laughter ] >> seth: so you reach out? >> it's the most i've ever tried to do anything. >> seth: but nothing -- so you weren't asking for a big part, right? >> no. >> seth: how small a part would you have said, "yes" to in "the hobbit"? >> i would have been stoked to be an orc. [ laughter ] >> seth: just a background orc? >> just chewing on a leg or something. [ laughter ] >> seth: but you didn't get it. do you have regrets about not >> i don't. >> no. >> seth: why not?
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it was like -- you know, like, a fever dream of, you know, song, weird, like -- throwing keys over horses. i didn't follow it really. >> seth: oh, so "the hobbit" just wasn't up to your standard of what you were willing of being an orc at? [ laughter ] >> yes. >> seth: there you go. i get it. there's one last thing i want to ask you about because your husband is very unkind to my dog. >> yes. >> seth: refers to frisbee who, let's be honest, is a beautiful girl, refers to her as a rat. [ laughter ] >> yeah, he does. >> seth: and you have nothing but nice things to say about her. >> i love frisbee. i've known frisbee since frisbee was -- >> seth: yeah, like, a baby. you met frisbee the first week we had her. >> yeah, i love her. >> seth: but yet, you can still live with this man who's a monster about my dog. how is that -- [ laughter ] >> it's really hard. every day i wake up and -- >> seth: and now did he -- did he try to get you to slam frisbee today? >> yeah, he wanted me to come on and call it a little rat and pet it the whole time, and be like, "i got your dog." [ laughter ] >> seth: you are such a better person than he is. i don't know how you do it.
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[ cheers and applauso ] joanna newsom, everybody. the album, "divers," is on sale now.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to john goodman, joanna newsom, everybody, matt cameron, the 8g band. stay tuned for carson daly,

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