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cleveland mine teen news sponsored by knoll carpet mill outlet, ohio's flooring superstore. asking questions and getting answers. cleveland 19 news starts now. >> i have a plan to fight isis. >> you are telling the enemy everything you want to do. >> no we're not. >> you are telling the enemy everything you want to do. no adult life. >> denise: they were expecting fire works and a record audience. hillary clinton and donald trump on the same stage tonight trying to persuade americans they have what it takes to be our next p. to nate we have a full team of reporters analyzing and breaking down everything the candidates had to say. >> romona: we are fact checking everything you heard.
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panel watching the debate. dan deroos is there to see who won over the voters. dan? >> dan: good evening, ramona from ashland university, the ashbrook center that specializes in political science. i would love to tell you we were watching the debate. we were watching the indians clinch the central division. we have 10 individuals, republicans and democrats on the panel. we have students and business professionals and one politician. let's get underway. the first thing i want to show you is our board. it is a big board. we took a vote and would would you vote for clinton three and trump four and gary johnson two and one indecided. trump lost one supporter at the end. maybe not lost the supporter but who they thought would win the election. now that the debate is over it
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that is dr. carlos campbell, actually the president of ash land university. tell me why maybe trump didn't lose the debate, but pushed people toward undecided. >> like many americans we were looking to see who would be the next president and that that was not donald trump. he came across as boyish and unprepared and didn't gravitas. we were pushing this all day. who won the debate? that's what everybody wants to know and that's what everybody will be talking about form. as we look at our panel of 10 we had three republicans and three democrats and four independents. raise your hand if you think donald trump won the debate tonight. not a single hand. raise your hand if you think hillary clinton won the debate tonight and we have two who
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let's start with at the end with mark and he is actually from the second ohio house district. he is one of our representatives here. you didn't raise your hand tonight, sir. representative, why did no one win this debate tonight in your opinion? >> we are not hiring a debater to be the leader of the free world. i am still looking for the leader. somebody who can lead this country and not sod >> dan: and to the back row. same question. why did we not get a winner in your opinion? >> i think it is sad we don't have a actually policy debate over the issues that face this country and that we are going to decide whether someone, quote, unquote, won or, quote, unquote, lost the debate based on their demeanor and not the substance of their words.
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>> dan: let's grab the mic there. you are a student alum and tell me why you think trump didn't win. >> the main reason he didn't win in my opinion is he did not offer substantive policy decisions. his body language was wild during the night. he appeared condescending at some points. and he didn't really show he can be diplomatic even in the mildest setting. for me when she asked him about cyber security he offered no he would do to revamp our security infrastructure to keep our nation's information safe from outsiders. >> dan: we have two people who said they would vote for trump today. show me those two hands. the two individuals who didn't think anybody won tonight. we'll stick with that and turn it back inside. we will get to some of those policy issues. namely there was a fight between release tacks versus
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we will see how much weight that holds with our panel. when we come back to you, live from the ashbrook center at ashland university. >> denise: thank you, dan. recent polls show donald trump and hillary clinton are virtually tied. but those polls were taken before tonight's debate. >> romona: did one candidate's performance maybe provide them with a boost? cbs news correspondent rase boswell was at hofstra univ debate. what everyone wants to know, who won the debate and why? >> reporter: ramona and denise, i will play a little politician here and i am not going to name the winners of the debate. that will be chosen as we go along here. there will be plenty of opinions on that. i will get into specific things both candidates did well and did not do well. it came down toward the end. there were questions about trump's temperament and they
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donald trump calling his temperament a winning temper meant and saying hillary clinton didn't have the temperament. i am not sure just calling him a winning temperament may win over those that still have that as a question mark about putting him into the oval office. hillary clinton giving stock answers she has given before about e-mails did not score points with those who have questions about her trustworthiness. so they did not anyone's minds in the other camp, but there are those people who are undecided that they were hoping to convince tonight. i am not sure they got into enough specifics to actually bring those folks over into each one of those camps. we will watch as they get on the road tomorrow and get back into these swing states as to whether or not they bring others into the camp. clinton had to really reach into the obama coalition and reach some of the young voters
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reticent to come over and i'm not sure trump won over anyone who was not already his supporter. it did live up to the hype. and they did actually go after each other in terms of their tone. they started cordial and then went into interruptiing wynn another. they showed they were aggressive whether or not they questions remains to be seen. >> denise: craig, history shows us the optics of the debate can be critical. george bush checking his watch. any key moments? >> there was sighing from trump. you got a little of the sighing and maybe giving a cross eyed look and maybe sniffing during the answers. and clinton, she wanted to make sure that she didn't come
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walking that line as well. so you could see her at times wanting to lean in, but as she was attacking would turn away from donald trump and talk away from him as to not come off like you said not like that al gore moment where he walked over to george w. bush. >> romona: craig boswell thank you for joining us and for your insight. we have conning coverage of tonight's debate in a few minutes. plus, if you missean have a complete recap on cleveland and on the cleveland 19 app. >> denise: great news, breaking news involving our cleveland indians. the tribe beat the tigers tonight and officially pinched their ticket to the playoffs. the central division champs will start their championship march on thursday, october 6th, but there is concern after cory kluber left the game after the fourth inning
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fingers crossed. >> romona: browns' offensive lineman alvin bailey was arrested on suspicion of ovi and drug charges. according to a report the 25-year-old told a north royal ton police officer that he had been drinking on the team plane and at a bar in strongsville. police said there was marijuana in his car. bailey will be in court on thursday. >> denise: there is a $15 million budget deficit in parma for the schools. coming. it might mean some schools will close. tonight hundreds of parents came out to a school board meeting to get answers. shelby miller was at that meeting where parents were understandably upset. >> reporter: they were. the business manager went through proposed budget cuts that would change hundreds of people's lives. the cuts include closing five parma city schools and moving all 10th through 12th
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high school. and potentially cutting activities like the stem program. they were in the dark about the proposed changes, and it would mean a whole new way of life for their kids. many told the board they wish they could have had a say in the decision. >> we need to have a voice in this process. losing normandy and losing hill hill -- hillside, those are not things we as a city as parents we are willing to deal with. >> it would be detrimental for children and worse for the residents in all three communities. >> the parma city schools needs to cover a $7 million deaf faucet for this school year and an $8 million for next school year. there is a special meeting scheduled for tuesday october 4th and this plan must be to the ohio department of education by october
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>> all right, we will look at the roof camera here. clear skieses and it is chilly inland. get used to that. we also have more rain on the way by midweek. first alert details coming up. >> and we are getting answers on tonight's debate. coming up our investigative team is doing investigation on what donald trump and hillary clinton had to say. >> get breaking news and weather now on the 19 news app . powered by the calvetta brothers floor show.
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>> live from cleveland's news center driven by don joseph toyota in kept, this is cleveland 19 news. >> romona: the man police say hit and killed kenneth valez has been jury. he was indicted on two counts of aggravated vehicular homicide and for driving under the influence. he is still in county jail on a half million dollars bond. >> denise: euclid high school will play their game as scheduled to remember a player who died over the weekend there will be a moment of silence and a boone release.
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jackson was taken back to the hospital yesterday and then died. the cause of death has not been released. >> you called it the gold standard of trade deals. you said it is the finest deal you have ever seen, and then you heard what i said about it and all of a sudden you were against it. >> donald, i know you live in your own reality, but that is not the facts. >> romona: the political tug of war is officially und as the first presidential debate is in the books. now comes the analysis of who won and lost the debate. that's where dan deroos is. >> denise: we have a team who will watch the debate and now we will head back to ashland university where dan is talking to the panel of guests. dan? >> dan: welcome back. in our first segment we asked
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panel of 10. eight people said hillary won and two people said there was no winner. want to get to some of the issues and the debate started tonight really heavy on the economy. danny bradshaw who is a retired steelworker. jobs in ohio is a big issue with you. did you hear anything? we heard trump mention ohio an did you get any answers tonight? >> i didn't get any anteses, but i -- get any answersing but he was telling me the steel mills are gone and i am sure he is not going to bring the steel mills back so i didn't get anything from him.
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hillary wasn't the president. >> dan: thank you for your opinion. we will go next door to hayley. you are a student here, is that correct? >> yes, i am. i am a junior here at ashland. >> dan: you said you identify with the conservative movement and maybe not so much for mr. trump. what did you get out of tonight's debate? >> it left me with more questions than answers. as a conservative r donald trump would say about the issues. i was hoping to get more policy, but hillary clinton was clear she had policies trump went on a ram bell and it left me frustrated and wondering what exactly is he going to do. >> dan: let a get the mic down.
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mr. trump and what do you come away with tonight? >> that's a hard question. that's a hard question. i came away thinking hillary clinton is so completely vulnerable on so many issues. how you go through a debate with hillary clinton where hillary is touting h policy experience and you don't mention benghazi is just an absolute mystery to me. for somebody that claims she wants to be the leader of the free world and wants to reach out in her comments to other countries and assure other countries that americans will be there, this is a person who left americans to die in the streets of a foreign country and how you don't mention that is a mystery to me. >> dan: we have a little time left here.
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minds are made up and you know exactly who you are voting for. let me see your hands. not everybody. for the people undecided what is it going to take? another debate, more commercials? do you need to see -- let's go to john mosier here. in outer short time left what do you need to see? >> i would like to hear gary johnson up on that stage with the other candidates. i think there is another option should be and that's stay home on election day and that's a live option for me. >> that's an interesting thing here in the ashbrook center where they tout the constitution and doing your part. i want to thank the panel for spending the might with us and watching the debate. it is not always comfortable especially in this election where we have two polarizing candidates who are up there trying to become our country's
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center and ashbrook university whos is our host. we will be back and i appreciate the time. we will wrap it up here and i want to thank everybody for taking the time to be with us. thank you and we will sign off one last time from the ashbrook center here at ashland university. back to you in the studio. >> denise: the question you probably have is did the candidates tell the truth? >> romona: christa gnaw kaw is with the team doing fact checking. chris? >> chris: that's right, ramona and denise, the entire investigative unit has been here not only watching the debate as it unfolded, but also on facebook live. live blogging, live tweeting their impressions and what they were able to find. paul orlousky, the spoken word is a measure of accuracy and truth.
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how a candidate and a nominee comports himself and herself what did you get from the subtilties. >> i think they came out polite. they stayed on target and on their platforms. when they got talking about solar panels the gloves came off. donald trump interrupted her. he said people lost a lot of money. it makes it akin to a boxing match from the standpoint that he came he knocked lester holt down for the rest of the debate. hillary clinton got knocked down and picked herself up and in the second half of the debate there was a difference. the nuances tell you about the dynamic of the candidates and probably the election. >> chris: carl monday, you found gaffs with trump you said. >> interesting to what paul was saying before the debate actually started somebody said that trump had to stay off the marbles and banana peels that
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campaign. i think he did so the first half of the debate. but as time went on, not so much especially in the end when lester holt questioned trump about his statement that hillary didn't have the look to be president. trump then said he didn't have the stamina. we fact checked it and looked back and he did in fact say she didn't have the look to be president. seems like a subtle difference, but maybe not so much in the minds of some female voters. that turned out to be f as we went through the nightwatching the debate along with everyone on tv. >> chris: i want to get to dani carlson. how did hillary clinton do factually and with her performance? >> we tried to fact check and we didn't find blatant untruths secretary clinton made and that may be due to the fact this trump
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another interesting thing we noticed is there seems to be a different perspective on how each candidate did during the debate whether you watched it on tv or just listened to it. this is obviously something we heard with nixon and kennedy. it will be interesting to watch. >> denise and ramona, you can get it from our fact checkers up here. perception shapes reality. how each candidate performed and how you perceive it. the dust will settle on will debate for weeks until the next one. for now, we'll send it back to you. >> helping you plan your day this is your cleveland 191st alert forecast. >> jeff: thank you, chris. we had the rain today the first half of the day and now the skies are clear. it is cool inland. that's where the cooler temperatures will be here tonight of the all is dry through tomorrow, tomorrow night and even early wednesday. but then this system is going to take over and this is going
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much wednesday and right through saturday. more showers and storms are developing by wednesday afternoon. we are not looking at big time storms, but this system like i mentioned it is going to be with us for awhile. get used to it. that's the next alert day. 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. especially. no severe weather with this, but it is something we will be keeping an eye on as we turn quite fall-like around here. 51 the low in clela look at akron-canton with the clear sky. 42 is your low. the weather impact tomorrow morning at 2. we will have low 50s there early on in the morning. but then warming up to 70. look at that wind southwest gusting to 30 miles an hour. it is warming close to 70 there by early afternoon and akron-canton it is 71 your high. windy as well by the afternoon. out there on the leak waves
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craft advisory in effect. then unsettled stuff on wednesday, thursday and friday and saturday with waves of rain and storm temps in the 60s. plan on that. isolated showers on sunday. ramona?
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now, this is the serpentini chevrolet sports report. >> the end of the line and the one-two pitch. a swing and a miss and the ballgame. and once again cleveland, you will have an october to remember . >> mark: i love it when hammy says that. the boys of summer will try to win right into fall.
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win the central division championship. this was the scene afterwards. it was a champagne celebration in the clubhouse. we haven't seen one of these in 199 days since the cavs won it all. and now the tribe will try to do the same and win it all for the indians. first they will party tonight. >> i don't think i have ever hid the fact that i am crazy about this group. come on, franky. god, man, that hurts. >> mark: now, there is one downer to tonight's tribe news. this might not be bad, but it is a downer. klubber left the game with groin tightness. he was in the clubhouse afterwards for the party. he was asked and he said it was fine. tightness is different than a
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so he may be okay? but they already have carasco and salazar down. the guy may win the cy young this year. we are hanging on by a thread. get that man healthy. we are one nation under god. that black and white, we are one nation indivisible. that republican and democrat, we are all americans. i'd like to punch him in the face. you know what they used to do to guys like that? they'd be carried out in a stretcher, folks. i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters.
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>> romona: jeff, g weather. >> jeff: tomorrow windy in the afternoon, but warming to 70 and lots of sunshine, about 52 at 8:00 a.m. and then things gee -- things go downhill. >> denise: she said good.
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i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. i'd look her right in that fat ugly face of hers. she's a slob. she ate like a pig. a person who's flat chested is very hard to be a 10. no. does she have a fat [expletive]? absolutely. do you treat women with respect?
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>> that concludes our debate this evening, a spirited one. >> stephen: wow, that was some debay. what did you think, ghost of abraham lincoln? >> democracy in action. seemed a little pampered. >> stephen: what do you mean? if my day we didn't have fancy cameras, moderators and antibiotics. all we had was our wits and the snake box, of course. >> stephen: the snake box? any debater winning had to answer the next question with his hands in a box of venomous snakes. kept the debates moving among.


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